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- Path: sparky!uunet!tcsi.com!hermes!miket
- From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
- Subject: Re: Dream characters with their own minds
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.043957.6691@tcsi.com>
- Sender: news@tcsi.com
- Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
- References: <gj156879.722116773@cunews>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:39:57 GMT
- Lines: 67
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- In article <gj156879.722116773@cunews> gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:
- > While stumbling through the library looking for interesting
- >articles on dreams, I came across the following which blew me away:
- >
- > "Consciousness and Abilities of Dream Characters Observed
- >During Lucid Dreaming", Perceptual and Motor skills, 1989, vol 68(2)
- >pages 567-578
- >
- > What happened in this experiment was assigning dream
- >characters certain tasks to see how they would respond. The tasks
- >consisted of having the characters:
- > -draw or write something opposite or upside down from where
- >the dream ego stands
- > -naming an unknown word (unknown to the dream ego) or
- >finding a rhyming word for a word. (The unknown word is in another
- >language, so the dream ego doesn't know what it means).
- > -get a rhyming verse from the character
- > -math problems, simple and complicated (not solved by ego in
- >advance, if possible)
- >
- > So they had 92 lucid dreamers report in... The results were
- >given in descriptive blurbs that were extremely entertaining (if you
- >happen to be nuts about lucid dreams, like myself) so I recommend you
- >go hunt it down, but here's a summary of sorts:
- >
- > -dream characters SUCK at math. They couldn't do anything
- >beyond 6 times 6, I believe.
- >
- > -dream characters seem to learn. If you try to root them to
- >the spot by staring at them in the dream, they sometimes will appear
- >later in the dream wearing a hood, or some other eye-blocking thing.
- >Apparently there are cases where the character will appear in a FUTURE
- >dream wearing a hood.
- >
- > -there are cases of dream characters TELLING people they are
- >dreaming, and causing the dreamer to go lucid!
- >
- > -a neat description of a woman who learned how to enter a
- >dream character's body by "astrally projecting" from her dream body.
- >
- > -dream characters seem to act as if they have their own
- >intentions and feelings, so the author (Tholey) suggests you treat
- >them as such. They do get peeved if you try and tell them they're
- >just dream, and will often say "Maybe YOU're just dream!"
- >
- > -discussion can usually avoid violence with a character.
- >They seem ready to listen and to say their piece.
- >
- > -Tholey discusses the threat of becoming MPD by focussing on
- >inidividual dream characters and trying to make them reapear in future
- >dreams, but he goes on to say there has been some dream work with
- >MPDers where the subsystems communicate in dream.
- >
- > -There was also a tantalizing hint at the very end of the
- >article about a device that would allow for talking back and forth,
- >one person IN dream, the other awake! Tholey says this is using an
- >alterred form of a lucid dream inducing device. Anybody have a clue
- >what he's talking about?
- >
- > Anyway, that's what I got out of it. I recommend hunting it
- >down if any of the above makes you drool as much as I did when I found
- >it.
- >
- > Nik
- >
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