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- From: gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
- Subject: Dream characters with their own minds
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- Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
- Organization: Carleton University
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:59:33 GMT
- Lines: 66
-
- While stumbling through the library looking for interesting
- articles on dreams, I came across the following which blew me away:
-
- "Consciousness and Abilities of Dream Characters Observed
- During Lucid Dreaming", Perceptual and Motor skills, 1989, vol 68(2)
- pages 567-578
-
- What happened in this experiment was assigning dream
- characters certain tasks to see how they would respond. The tasks
- consisted of having the characters:
- -draw or write something opposite or upside down from where
- the dream ego stands
- -naming an unknown word (unknown to the dream ego) or
- finding a rhyming word for a word. (The unknown word is in another
- language, so the dream ego doesn't know what it means).
- -get a rhyming verse from the character
- -math problems, simple and complicated (not solved by ego in
- advance, if possible)
-
- So they had 92 lucid dreamers report in... The results were
- given in descriptive blurbs that were extremely entertaining (if you
- happen to be nuts about lucid dreams, like myself) so I recommend you
- go hunt it down, but here's a summary of sorts:
-
- -dream characters SUCK at math. They couldn't do anything
- beyond 6 times 6, I believe.
-
- -dream characters seem to learn. If you try to root them to
- the spot by staring at them in the dream, they sometimes will appear
- later in the dream wearing a hood, or some other eye-blocking thing.
- Apparently there are cases where the character will appear in a FUTURE
- dream wearing a hood.
-
- -there are cases of dream characters TELLING people they are
- dreaming, and causing the dreamer to go lucid!
-
- -a neat description of a woman who learned how to enter a
- dream character's body by "astrally projecting" from her dream body.
-
- -dream characters seem to act as if they have their own
- intentions and feelings, so the author (Tholey) suggests you treat
- them as such. They do get peeved if you try and tell them they're
- just dream, and will often say "Maybe YOU're just dream!"
-
- -discussion can usually avoid violence with a character.
- They seem ready to listen and to say their piece.
-
- -Tholey discusses the threat of becoming MPD by focussing on
- inidividual dream characters and trying to make them reapear in future
- dreams, but he goes on to say there has been some dream work with
- MPDers where the subsystems communicate in dream.
-
- -There was also a tantalizing hint at the very end of the
- article about a device that would allow for talking back and forth,
- one person IN dream, the other awake! Tholey says this is using an
- alterred form of a lucid dream inducing device. Anybody have a clue
- what he's talking about?
-
- Anyway, that's what I got out of it. I recommend hunting it
- down if any of the above makes you drool as much as I did when I found
- it.
-
- Nik
-
-