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- From: sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy)
- Subject: metaphor was Re: Singularity (Gordon's idea)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.221853.18887@wam.umd.edu>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:18:53 GMT
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- damn long discussion deleted. perked up when I saw M*t*ph*R!
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- In article <1eoua8INNr2n@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@soda.berkeley.edu (Cosma Shalizi) writes:
- >*: (A long note on metaphors.)
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- Talk on being true and false at the same time deleted. contradiction
- being one of my favorites...but...not what perks me.
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- Mostly intriqued by metaphor implied in thinking process.
- in word choices.
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- to use examples given by Johnson and Lakoff in some book I'm reading,
- common metaphors implied in speech:
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- ARGUMENT IS WAR
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- J&L then list many examples of sentences talking about arguments.
- win defend target, etc etc, words connected to war paradigm used for
- argument idea. (then have a fun time explaining how a different culture
- could sprout (another metaphor:) a way of thinking whereby argument
- was dance. how cool....it wouldn't be 'argument' to us then. have to get
- a different word.)
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- TIME IS MONEY
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- I do not know how to explain what I find objectionable about making
- anything an economy. time or art.
- a grave conceptual evil.
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- why can't humans pick different paradigms to fixate on?
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- It feels like the human race fixates on the paradigm implied in 'resources'
- or 'economy' and in this choice is part of evil.
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- I want to pick my own assumptions, not have everything planned out by talk.
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- I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
- stark raving sane sheilah@wam.umd.edu
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