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- From: rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
- Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
- Subject: Re: Perhaps we have forgotten the teachings of Jesus
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.103720.14054@deeptht.armory.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 10:37:20 GMT
- References: <BxKIrq.G9u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <12NOV199216470866@jane.uh.edu> <Bxn2ru.7oz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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- In article <Bxn2ru.7oz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Last Bard) writes:
- >st1vr@jane.uh.edu (cl.rich) writes:
- >>>
- >>>P.S. If you would like to flame me or talk at more length send me e-mail.
- >>>
- >>>PPS the passage used in paragraph one is found in John 11. The verses quoted
- >>>are 35 and 36.
- >
- >>Chip. There are a great variety of other groups that you will find most
- >>certainly much more welcome to your grand proclamations of The Truth. I'm
- >>not against you, yet I question your tact. Let's not turn alt.industrial into
- >>alt.praise.jesus.
- >
- >>cl.rich
- >
- >I think you missed the point...Ok so I believe that Jesus is the son of God,
- >but that is not my post. My post was just saying that the arguements I heard
- >(read) against Jesus, won't hold water. Why? because the book being quoted
- >to show that Jesus is (in the case of most posts) was being misquoted. Now
- >I didn't think it was fair to you as intellectual humans to let go on
- >misquoteing. You might have a very good reason to reject God, but we'll never
- >know if you say things that are inaccurate. Now, I am not assurting that
- >the bible is true, the previous posters were by quoting it as a reason for
- >there rejection of the gospel. I do believe it is true and If you would like
- >to know why then email me, but don't be uninformed about the book the previous
- >posters used.
- >
- >chip
- >aka Virtual Benedicta
- >.
- ------------------------
- People try to be polite to you and deal with you on your own terms,
- which we have discovered are, for fundies: They believe in the bible
- for no apparent reason above any other book, when it doesn't make it
- as any kind of cohesive work, nor do we have the authors to question
- about all this. Thus we try to show you the inconsistencies in the
- bible, using the bible. But actually, most of us are former christians
- who would not bother with christianity for love or money. We consider
- it a barbarous and wretched little pissant of a religion and its
- followers to have the sense of sheep or hogs. So Chippie, take your
- bible and stick it where the sun don't shine. We have a belief in a
- "God" of sorts, which is so complicated and problematic to explain to
- one with as limited vistas as yourself intellectually, that you
- wouldn't get it in any reasonable amount of time. If you want to know
- about it, read other and more recent books. Spend ten years reading
- about other religions and their relationship to quantum mechanics and
- uncertainty and phenomenology, and then you might have a chance. But
- be assured. We don't believe a word of what you try to peddle. It's
- just that some people here feel sorry for you. I do as well, but I'm
- not of the persuasion that thinks they can get to you on your terms.
- That's a slightly more naive newcomer approach to intellectual
- analysis.
- - Steve
-
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