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- From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
- Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
- Message-ID: <Bxyz0v.CzE@unix.amherst.edu>
- Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
- References: <BxvtBB.I68@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <Bxw0uC.Dxn@unix.amherst.edu> <9884@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:29:18 GMT
- Lines: 47
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- In article <9884@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
-
- >In article <Bxw0uC.Dxn@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
- >
- >> It's quite clear that the only
- >> reason people like Becker have any kind of "power" around here is
- >> because we, as system managers, have quietly given it to him by
- >> default.
- >
- >You've actually raised an interesting concept with this discussion. The
- >concept of what the "USENET" really is. Each site can manipulate "USENET"
- >into it's own image, more or less.
-
- Sure. Usenet -- and altnet -- are collectively nothing more than the
- newsgroups that propagate across them. Is rec.audio part of Usenet?
- Sure. Is alt.flame.hairy-douchebag.meredith-tanner part of altnet?
- I'd say no, even though I know of a few sites that actually created it
- (notably VMS on autopilot). Each site, then, is simply a tiny little
- piece of Usenet.
-
- >So nobody
- >really has any "power" over the USENET, with the exception of the influence
- >over one's downstream sites. But given the reality of several Internet feed
- >sites that many sites have, even that "power" has been diluted.
-
- That's correct.
-
- >So when I see newgroups/rmgroups for alt.graphics week after week, for example,
- >I have to ask myself why anyone bothers. But, then again, if they didn't
- >have the illusion of this exercise, they might be out participating in gangs,
- >selling drugs and getting into all sorts of REAL trouble. ;-)
-
- Jef's position on that is that anarchy does not mean "no rules," but
- rather "no rulers." I think that's exactly what alt is all about. No
- one has "power" over the net, and no one should, but that doesn't mean
- that there shouldn't be some sort of moderate courtesy regarding group
- creation or deletion.
-
- I wonder if the newgeeks would say that the existence of
- alt.flame.hairy-douchebag.meredith-tanner means that sites should
- automatically honor rmgroups, since no one should have the "power" to
- keep such a group in existence.
-
- --
- ____ Tim Pierce /
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