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- From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
- Subject: Red Shift ( was Re: Science and god: Are they incompatible? )
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:23:03 GMT
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- StM says:
- >DJ writes:
- >> Okay. How do either of you feel about the possibility that Red Shift is not
- >>always an indicator of distance...
- >
- >It's NOT always an indicator of distance. In the vast majority of cases where
- >we could get independent estimates of distances, however, degree of red shift
- >is closely correlated with distance.
- >
- >>A certain person's 'peculiar galaxies...'
- >>I can't remember his name off-hand. He wound up going to Europe as he couldn't
- >>get telelscope time here in the US.
- >
- >I'm not familiar with the case in question. Could you (or maybe DM or one of
- >the other AY types) give us more information on this? Or a reference?
- >
- Halton Arp is his name. He said that many quasars appear to be
- connected to galaxies with greatly different red shifts than the galaxy.
- He wanted 4 meter telescope time to find out what, if any, connection
- they did have. After preliminary deep exposures showed he might be correct
- in some instances, he was then denied more time to make absolutely certain.
- I got the impression that if he did find it to be true, some of our
- standard candles for age of the universe would prove wrong in some instances.
- i.e. not all quasars are a long way off, some are attached or imbedded in
- 'relatively nearby' galaxies. Which I would say means that some of my
- astronomy knowledge says thats impossible... I see 'proof' on both sides
- of this question. I did see several high-resolution photographs in his
- book that appear to show a hydrogen bridge connecting a quasar and a normal
- spiral galaxy... I have read other claims that say the photograph proves
- nothing... It certainly appears to me to be connected. { I used a magnifying
- glass to suppliment my vision. }
-
- { I have his book somewhere at home and might be able to find it if you
- need some of his examples, such as NGC numbers that supposedly have
- quasars attached. }
-
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- Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus
- jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu Disclaimer: Standard.
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