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- Subject: Re: Another introduction...
- Message-ID: <OLSON.92Nov17000905@husc8.harvard.edu>
- From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
- Date: 17 Nov 92 00:09:05
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- In-reply-to: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 18:14:22 GMT
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- In article <102170@bu.edu> mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
- >In article <1e79nkINNrha@gap.caltech.edu> ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
- >>The strangest event was when I put up a Star of David and he told me that it
- >>was a pagan symbol !!!!
- >
- >"I've noticed that when 'born-agains' are recently converted, or are
- >particularly zealous, they have almost no knowledge of, or interest in,
- >other beliefs. Some of the things my brother used to say to get me
- >away from Buddhism and into his church made *no* sense whatsoever.
- >It was clear that, outside of his own beliefs, when he talked
- >about religion, he knew very little. Of course, I'm sure this isn't
- >true for all born-agains."
-
- "Not for all, but a distressing percentage." observes Castellan. "Friend of
- mine once asked to borrow a proselytizing BAC's Bible... then sat on it and
- said `Now what were you saying?' `Ummm...' Poor fellow was completely help-
- less without his crutch. My biggest problem is when they find out I'm Uni-
- tarian... some are convinced I'm going straight to hell, worship Satan etc.,
- but the worst is when they ask what it is... it's hard enough to explain to
- reasonably open-minded people, let alone those whose only interest is to get
- me to believe what they think I should believe.
-
- >
- >>the atheists. He's still, to this day, born-again, but he stopped *preaching*
- >>about it all the time. Of course, he had trouble getting away from the
- >>local branch of the AFA (American Family Association ... if you don't know,
- >>you probably don't want to know) ... They don't like giving up a new
- >>recruit. He had to threaten to go to the papers to get them to drop him from
- >>their list of officers ...
- >
- >"Hmm, haven't heard of that one. Sounds like a christian cult.
-
- "Worse, they're a political lobbying group, headed by the oddly named Rev.
- Donald Wildmon. Anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, pro-school prayer, anti-
- anything remotely having to do with sex or education thereof; these are
- the people who give thousands of perfectly reasonable born-agains bad names."
-
- >That has been an additional problem with my brother. He is in
- >one of the 'plantings' of the Boston Church of Christ. I don't know
- >if it is a cult, but it has many cultish aspects. I think I would
- >have had less of a problem with his being 'born-again' if he had
- >seemed less like a zombie reciting memorized arguments and speeches,
- >and more like, well, my brother!"
-
- "Yeah, I managed to politely fend off a BCC member on the ferry back from
- Martha's Vineyard a couple months back... they look and sound like a normal
- church, but they are very cultish in some respects. Fortunately, I was
- able to convince this fellow that I was an unlikely convert."
-
- >>>respect. So, I just ask for a little understanding and acceptance
- >>>of differences and diversity - if we all believed the same thing,
- >>>what a boring Place this would be!"
-
- "Amen, and it goes both ways- too many of my co-religionists claim to be
- open and accepting of all faiths and beliefs, then turn around and slam
- Christianity. Of course, most Unitarians became such as a reaction against
- Christian upbringings, so there's a bit of a blind spot there.
-
- >"Thanks, Abner! I think I need another drink after that Purple-People
- >Eater scare!!"
-
- "GRRROWFF!! sorry, just kidding..."
- --
- -Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu
- "These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
- you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you
- do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
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