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- Subject: Re: Science and god: Are they incompatible? If so, why?
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- From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
- Date: 16 Nov 92 04:59:57 GMT
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- References: <RANDOLPH.92Nov15125813@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM> <1e6j38INN951@gap.caltech.edu> <1e791lINNo0v@phakt.usc.edu>
- Organization: University of Pittsburgh
- Originator: seawasp@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu
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- In article <1e791lINNo0v@phakt.usc.edu> pechever@phakt.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri) writes:
- >"An entire novel, actually--Heinlein's _Number of the Beast_. Fictons are
- >out there, folks. And as for scientists believing or not in fictons: the
- >concept hardly applies to science, it has no contact with it, much like
- >religion; fictons are irrelevant to science, neither hindering nor helping.
- >Objective reality, now: THAT's an amusing concept."
-
- The Sea Wasp, recently having been mostly reduced to a transparent
- and rather dusty outline, phases into a temporary VR state.
-
- "Nonobjective reality is a lot more amusing. My standard retort
- to those who think Reality is a matter of opinion:
- "Those who think Reality is a matter of opinion are invited to
- debate the matter with an oncoming bullet. The bullet's answer will be
- swift, decisive, and utterly final."
-
- "If fictons were real -- in the sense of a fiction being able
- to create a reality, or modify it -- they would be of extreme importance
- to science. After all, this would mean that writing fiction could change
- physical laws if that was the main thrust of the fiction... and, as anyone
- who's read the "Robert MacEl- whatever " postings on subjects like
- "Larsonian Physics" and "Free Energy machines" on sci.skeptic and other
- newsgroups can attest, such fiction is widely available." The Wasp smiles
- wryly. "Since the laws of physics are still behaving as expected, I
- must conclude that fictons are, er, fiction." He releases his glass, which
- remains suspended in midair. However, after a quick glare from the Wasp,
- the offending glass falls, obligingly, sideways into the fireplace.
-
-
- "By the way, to Nicarra and several others, Happy Birthday --
- I'm busy, as you may have guessed, and very rushed.
-
- "Congratulations, GGriffon!"
-
- Sea Wasp
- /^\
- ;;;
-