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- From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
- Newsgroups: alt.california
- Subject: Re: relocation
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.110910.9551@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 11:09:10 GMT
- References: <168@steiny.com> <1992Nov19.115307.1651@gdr.bath.ac.uk> <1eg523INNfs2@gap.caltech.edu>
- Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK
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- In the referenced article, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >In article <1992Nov19.115307.1651@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
- >>> I do not believe you. Please tell me where I can find one so I
- >>>can see a political spectrum.
- >>>
- >>
- >>Take an introduction to political science class.
- >
- >Then take the advanced course and you'll learn that the "political spectrum"
- >they talked about in the intro course doesn't exist. If you don't want to take
- >a course, read _The_American_Voter_ by Converse, et. al. in lieu of the intro
- >course, and _The_New_American_Voter_ to see why Converse's analysis was flawed.
-
- Sure every analysis is flawed. Nonetheless, the polictical spectrum
- does apply and is widely used. Usually people that try to deny
- that there is a polictical spectrum are right or left wing extremists
- but don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, if you examine their
- statements, you can see where they lie. Of course this is alway in
- general terms. I could make an argument that Reagen was a socialist
- because he increased government spending. There's no absolutes
- in politics, but that doesn't mean that you can't draw general principles.
-
- >
- >>Yeah well Marx has pretty much been proven to be out of touch
- >>with reality these days what with the east-bloc in a gross economic
- >>state as a result of pursuing marxism.
- >
- >Perhaps while you're taking the advanced poli sci course, you could manage to
- >squeeze in a history course as sell. Marx was NOT a marxist.
-
- Oh right, and Freud wasn't a Freudian, and Stalin wasn't a Stalinist.
-
- I assume what you mean is that the policies pursued by modern-day
- Marxists don't follow very closely the writings of Marx. I agree with
- you. I would say though that the reason that modern so-called Marxists
- don't follow Marx is that his "dictatorship of the proletariat" is
- impossible to acheive in a world full of self-interested people. Thus
- they tried to force it on people through totalitarian rule. As history
- proves, that doesn't work either.
-