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- From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
- Subject: Re: Is this love, or just a dead heart??
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:12:45 GMT
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- kath@pico.dr.att.com (54626-LeeK(DR1971)210) writes:
-
- >In article <83937@ut-emx.uucp>, llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
- >|> kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (StMeechTheThwacked) wrote:
- >|>
- >|> : Maybe the engines really only "warm up" that first time you fall in
- >|> : love? When you don't know what to expect? Now you know or believe or
- >|> : expect things may not last, so you prepare yourself for the worst by
- >|> : convincing yourself that the whole thing isn't that important. Or you
- >|> : think you know what to expect. Maybe I am just a little too cynical.
- >|>
- >|> i dunno. my first "love," the guy i married, was increidbly low-key. i
- >|> had a fairly torrid affair right before i moved here, but that was
- >|> followed by a series of really quiet involvements. then i started
- >|> dating the guy i tend to think of as my major ex, and it was like i'd
- >|> never quite understood the concept before. lotsa smarm, lotsa
- >|> burbling, lots of euphoria.
- >|>
- >|> after that breakup, i thought i'd definitely burned out whatever part
- >|> of my brain produces that. i dated half-heartedly and even fell in
- >|> "love" again, but it was like a business transaction: calm,
- >|> controlled, reasonable.
- >|>
- >|> now i'm back to the incredible ecstatic rush again. and even though
- >|> things are settling into a sort of "reality intrudes and we learn to
- >|> deal with each other as real people" phase, that excitement and joy
- >|> and wonder at our luck is still there.
- >|>
- >|> so maybe sometimes as you get older you get more prosiac, and with the
- >|> ex, i'd known him for ages before the chemistry was there, but
- >|> sometimes it still happens all at once.
- >|>
- >|> --
- >|> sine | deb
- >|> or, of course, i'm a mutant.
- >|> (and, btw, it was definitely worth the wait.)
-
- >hi,
- > new reader here, following the course of this particular item.
- > hmmm, i'm kind of curious as to how long you've been with this
- > latest person (maybe it's just the blindness of love right now
- > keeping you in the excitement & joy mode, and when you regain
- > your vision you'll lose the euphoria)
-
- > Also, when the original writer was talking about this it brought
- > to mind the men i've known who felt this "engine warming" stuff
- > ecstasy is all well and good, but sometimes destructive
- > a man carving my initials in his chest, a man
- > leaving ridiculously expensive gifts on my door
- > step every day...
- > these things tend to make me wonder if it's me they want or the
- > thrill they are somehow receiving in feeling this much emotion
- > as though they're more addicted to passion than in love with a
- > person. sometimes a quieter sense of emotion is alot more able
- > to survive the realities of life, of love, of time...
-
-
- > ps: i returned the gifts.
-
- > kath
-
- This is quite depressing to hear that you say "...they're (referring to men)
- are more addicted to passion...". In most of my relationships with women it
- has been exactly
- the opposite. Me, being cool-headed and reasonable at the start and the woman
- being quite in a state of ecstacy. If I were to plot the interest in the
- relationship over time it would look something like this.
-
-
- i | www m-man
- n | w www w-woman
- t | w www mmmmmmmm --- lasting relationship
- e | w wwww mmmmmmmmmmm level
- r | w mmwmmmmm
- e | w mmmmmm wwwww
- s |w mmm wwwww
- t |w mmm wwwww
- |m wwwwwwwww
- ---------------------------------------
- time
-
- after about the first month and they have hit the "lasting relationship level"
- I get a proposal either for marriage or to live together.
- me, being cautious (having had one _terrible_ marriage), refuse. (I suppose
- this classifies me as a "non-commitment" type of guy but this is far from
- the truth. It just takes me longer to understand a person. A person must
- _earn_ my trust. I don't give it freely. and anyone who does is just
- asking for it). They get pissed off or write me off. If the relationship
- does continue, by the time _I_ hit the lasting relationship level, they are
- ready to call it quits. Story of my life.
- I guess I need to quit being sexist and say that this can happen either way.
-
- --
- Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.
-
- Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
-