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- PLEASE READ AND KEEP A COPY OF THIS POSTING.
- THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THIS VERSION BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE
- OF THE PAST TWELVE MONTHS.
-
- ACCESS-L Administrative Posting
- For ACCESS-L@INDYCMS, Microsoft Access Database Discussion List
- Version 1.2, 12/28/93
- ============================================================
- This file will be posted to the list at large on a quarterly basis.
- It can be retrieved at any time from LISTSERV@INDYCMS with the command
- GET ACCESS-L ADMIN.
- ============================================================
-
- NOTE: Addresses ending in @INDYCMS are BITNET addresses and are
- equivalent to an Internet address ending in @INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU.
-
- Q. What is ACCESS-L?
-
- A. ACCESS-L@INDYCMS is a BITNET distribution list running under LISTSERV
- 1.7f at INDYCMS, the VM computer at Indiana University Purdue University
- Indianapolis. ACCESS-L is provided for the discussion of Microsoft
- Access, a relational database product for Microsoft Windows 3.x, and
- discussion of the Access 1.1 Engine provided with Microsoft Visual Basic
- 3.0 for Windows.
-
- DISCLAIMER: Indiana University is <not responsible> for either the
- content or the management of the list. The list administrator's
- responsibilities are limited to keeping the list focused and tending to
- various administrative duties related to the list. Those who post to
- ACCESS-L are solely responsible for the content of their posts. Any and
- all software, either posted across ACCESS-L or residing in the list
- archives is downloaded and used at the downloader's own risk.
-
- Note that there are THREE ACCESS-L lists on BITNET. One is ACCESS-
- L@INDYCMS, this list; one is ACCESS-L@BRUFPB, a Brazilian Microsoft
- Access list (one assumes without supporting data that it is in
- Portugese); and the last is ACCESS-L@UNBVM1, which has nothing to do
- with Microsoft Access at all.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. Does Microsoft Corporation sponsor ACCESS-L?
-
- A. No. The list is not sponsored in any way by Microsoft, although
- Microsoft employees and particularly Access design staff are welcome and
- encouraged to subscribe.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. What is the format for sending commands to LISTSERV?
-
- A. First of all, be sure you send them to LISTSERV and not to the list.
- Second, there are two ways to send the commands: Interactively and via
- Mail.
-
- Interactive commands differ between systems (and are not available on
- all systems anyway--e.g., AOL and CompuServe--at least not until the
- fabled Internet TELL is available). They would be of the general format:
-
- (For VM/CMS:) TELL LISTSERV AT INDYCMS <command>
-
- (For VAX/VMS:) SEND LISTSERV@INDYCMS <command>
-
- For other systems, see your consultants. For specifics on LISTSERV
- commands, send the command GET LISTSERV REFCARD to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.
-
- Mail commands can be more efficient if the network is experiencing
- its usual glitches--at least the command will eventually be processed by
- LISTSERV. To send commands by mail, simply address a message to
- LISTSERV@INDYCMS (or LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU) with a blank subject
- line and the command you want to send as the body of the message. You
- can send up to five commands at a time in this way, but be forewarned--
- if one of the commands triggers an error, all subsequent commands in the
- message will be flushed without being processed. (LISTSERV will count
- your signature line (if any) as an error but this should not cause a
- problem since it comes last.)
-
- ============================================================
- Q. How do I subscribe to or unsubscribe from ACCESS-L?
-
- A. To subscribe to ACCESS-L, send the command
-
- SUB ACCESS-L <Your_Name>
-
- to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU.
-
- To unsubscribe from ACCESS-L, send the command
-
- UNSUB ACCESS-L
-
- to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. What if I try to unsubscribe (or am asked to confirm my subscription
- after 6 months) and am told I do not appear in the list?
-
- A. You are either a) subscribed via a redistribution list (such as MS-
- ACCESS) or b) your Internet address has changed slightly and LISTSERV
- does not recognize your ID. You can get a copy of the subscriber list
- by sending the command REV ACCESS-L to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.
-
- Also note that if you used SEND or TELL to interactively subscribe
- and subsequently send mail to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU to set
- commands, the listserver may not recognize you because you are
- subscribed under a BITNET address and are sending commands from an
- Internet address. One possible solution to this problem would be to
- mail your commands to LISTSERV@INDYCMS rather than to the Internet
- address. If your BITNET node's record in the file BITEARN NODES (which
- is LISTSERV's primary lookup file for such things) does not include an
- ALIAS or INTERNET entry, LISTSERV will assume that your Interet node
- does not map to any known BITNET node and will let you know accordingly.
- If this is the case, there is NOTHING the list owner can do for you.
-
- If you can't figure the problem out, do <NOT> post a message to the
- list at large to unsubscribe you or to confirm you. Send all such mail
- directly to the list administrator. See below.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. Somehow I got my hands on this file but I can't seem to get a reaction
- from the listserver when I try to subscribe. Why is that?
-
- A. ACCESS-L is set up to confirm a mailing path back to all new
- subscribers. This is done by sending a message back to the address on
- the subscription request which has a unique confirmation code. The
- subscriber is asked to send that confirmation code back to LISTSERV.
- Because some Internet gateways aren't always two-way, your
- confirmation message probably did not get back to you, meaning that
- LISTSERV could not send you mail even if the list administrator added
- you manually. This is a network problem and isn't currently solvable
- unless you can provide a substitute (i.e., BITNET) address. You might
- try subscribing from another account or subscribing to a redistribution
- list. You might also try again later--a gateway might be down
- temporarily.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. I sent back my confirmation code for subscription but I keep getting
- error messages from the listserver that say my confirmation code doesn't
- apply to any existing job. Why is that?
-
- A. LISTSERV expects the confirmation codes to be sent in a specific way
- because some mail gateways add lines to the header of the message that
- LISTSERV doesn't understand. The subscription sequence should be as
- follows:
-
- 1. SEND Subscription request
- 2. REPLY to the confirmation request ('ok')
- 3. SEND the confirmation code (if necessary) ('ok 23CBD8', for
- instance)
- 4. Send mail to the LIST ADMINISTRATOR, not to the list, if your
- subscription request fails after step 3. (See below)
-
- ============================================================
- Q. Who is the list administrator and how do I contact him?
-
- A. The list administrator is Nathan Brindle, NBRINDLE@INDYCMS. His
- Internet address is NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. How do I get a copy of old postings (list archives)?
-
- A. Send the command GET ACCESS-L LOGYYMM to LISTSERV@INDYCMS, where YYMM
- is the year and month of the archive you want (i.e., LOG9302 is for
- February 1993). Or check CICA or Compuserve's Access forum for zipped
- compilations of the logs.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. How do I get an index of list archives and other files
- related to the list?
-
- A. Send the command IND ACCESS-L to LISTSERV@INDYCMS.
- HOWEVER, if you are on a service that does not allow you to receive
- files via the Internet, it is safest to append the switch F=MAIL to
- any text file archive request. This will cause LISTSERV to send
- what would normally be a NetData file as a mail message. America
- Online is one example of a service that (so far) requires this switch.
- Binary files in the archives can be retrieved in uuencoded format
- by appending the switch F=UUENCODE. (Unfortunately you can't get these
- uuencoded files mailed to you in the bargain. Contact the list owner
- if you need binary files mailed to you.)
- The switched commands would look like this:
-
- IND ACCESS-L F=MAIL
- GET ACCESS-L LOG9312 F=MAIL
- GET ACC-KB EXE F=UUENCODE
- etc.
-
- ============================================================
- Q. If I want to FTP files associated with ACCESS-L rather than request
- them through the listserver, how do I do that?
-
- A. At the moment, the list administrator is "mirroring" all files from
- the list archives to FTP.CICA.INDIANA.EDU. This may change, but for the
- moment it's all we can do. Newer files are located in the
- pub/pc/win3/uploads directory there; older ones will be relocated at some
- point by CICA into pub/pc/win3/access. Naturally you should feel free to
- use CICA's mirror sites as well (i.e., WUARCHIVE).
-
- ============================================================
- Q. I have a GREAT .MDB to share with everyone on the list. If I
- uuencode it, should I send it to the list?
-
- A. Those conversant with netiquette would probably reply in the
- negative. Even the smallest .MDB is going to be larger than most people
- want to find in their mailbox, particularly since the file is going to
- be somewhat larger than it would be in binary format anyway. Also
- remember that some people are paying for their messages and may not be
- particularly appreciative of receiving a long file they didn't ask for;
- and not everyone has UUdecoding software, either.
-
- If you wish to share a file with the rest of the list, you are
- encouraged to upload it to CICA or to send it to the list administrator
- in private mail with a request that he include it in the list archives.
- (Such requests should include an abstract of what the file does and/or
- what it includes.)
-
- Also, because the list is "digestified" and digests typically
- truncate at 1000 or 1500 lines, you may crowd some posts out with a long
- UUencoded message. America Online subscribers should rejoice that AOL
- has finally implemented a message splitter for long messages. :)
-
- ============================================================
- Q. I've found a review or article in a computer magazine that relates to
- a discussion taking place. May I post the review or article to the
- list?
-
- A. If you can summarize the review or article in your own words, feel
- free to do so. Otherwise, please refrain from posting copyrighted
- materials to the list. (You can always cite the article in question so
- others can look it up.) COPYRIGHTED ARTICLES POSTED VIA ACCESS-L WILL
- BE DELETED FROM THE LIST ARCHIVES.
-
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