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- Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:57:13 -0700
- To: dmurdoch@mast.QueensU.CA
- From: Barry J Gould
- Subject: re: DOSLFNBK
-
- (From DOSLFNBK v 1.5 docs)
- > I have received several messages from people who have tried to
- > use XCOPY and DOSLFNBK to back up their disk to a network drive
- > or elsewhere, and then found on restore that Win95 won't boot
- > properly. I don't know what is going wrong in these situations,
- > but as far as I can tell it's either a bug in XCOPY, or people
- > aren't using the right combination of options when they run it.
- > If someone has the time to figure out exactly what is going
- > wrong, I'd appreciate being told. In the meantime I don't
- > recommend using XCOPY for backups.
-
- XCOPY in DOS won't copy hidden files, which is a big problem as many of
- Win95's configuration files such as the registry and several directories are
- hidden. Before discovering Win95's XCOPY in a window, I would do ATTRIB -H
- -S -R /S *.* before using XCOPY in DOS to copy an entire drive. Most
- programs don't seem to care if the HSR attributes are stripped.
-
- XCOPY (aka XCOPY32) works fine in a Window, as long as one tells it to copy
- hidden files and to ignore errors, but it won't copy some files which are
- open such as the swapfile. One can run it in Quiet mode so only the errors
- are reported so they can be remedied manually.
- I use it this way:
- xcopy c:\*.* d:\ /e /v /c /q /h /k
-
- It will not preserve the attributes of directories, however, and the
- Windows\Fonts directory needs to be set to System, or the Control
- Panel-Fonts applet will not list the full names of the fonts, etc. This is
- the only directory that seems to need to any special attributes in order to
- work properly.
-
- I've never actually tried using DOSLFNBK with DOS XCOPY, because of XCOPY's
- limitations of not copying hidden files, etc, and Win's XCOPY copies LFN's;
- I just use it with my DOS Tape software, and it works well for me. Thanks
- for the great program.
-
- Later,
- Barry Gould
- ----------------------------------
-
- P.S. My statement about using attrib -r -h -s /s first is incomplete.
- That will not unhide hidden directories, so one must manually unhide all the
- hidden directories (\recycled, \windows\...; there are at least 5 dirs under
- windows that are hidden). DIR /ah /s will list them as hidden, but for some
- reason, they must be manually be unhidden with attrib one at a time.
-
- I suggest using a program that copies hidden files and directories as an
- alternative to DOS XCOPY, such as Norton Commander 5.0.
-
- From: "Lee A. Ryan"
- To: dmurdoch@mast.QueensU.CA
- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:02:59 -6
- Subject: DOSLFNBK works with XCOPY
-
- Well not with XCOPY but with a similar shareware program called
- MCOPY.
-
- Because I do consulting work I have the need to be able to backup
- and restore Win95 or move complete system from one hard drive to
- another. When researching my quest I ran across your program DOSLFNBK
- v1.6. After reading your documentation and your warning about XCOPY
- not working correctly I processed to test my approach to system
- transfer. Here are the steps I took to replace a 850mb hdd with a
- 2.1gb hdd which had a running Win95 operating system installed.
-
- I created a boot Win95 disk as you discribed, and ran scandisk and
- defrag on the 850mb disk. Then I attached the new drive as the
- master and the old drive as the slave. Made the requried changes to
- the CMOS and reboot the system from the boot disk. Set up new drive
- in FDISK and then formatted it with the "/s" to transfer system files
- to the new drive. Once that was completed I rebooted to new drive
- which now only has system files. I copied DOSLFNBK and MCOPY to the
- new drive, ran DOSLFNBK on the "D:" as discribed in your docs. Then I
- used the utility program "XTREE" to remove the attibutes on the
- C:\MSDOS.SYS file and deleted it. I then used MCOPY to copy all the
- drive D: files, subdirectories, including hidden and system files to
- C:, setting the parameter not to replace any existing files.
-
- After all the files have been copied, I used DOSLFNBK to restore the
- long file names to the files on the C: drive. After this process was
- completed I rebooted the computer and Win95 came right up, everything
- was the way it was on the old drive. The whole process for
- transfering 800mb of data from start to finish took about 20-30
- minutes.
-
- The one thing to remember is not to reboot the computer once you
- delete the MSDOS.SYS file until you've restored the long file names.
-
- Thanks for your utility.
-
- Lee A. Ryan
- Topeka, Kansas USA
-
-
-
- From: "Andrew Luebker"
- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 01:03:36 CST
- To: dmurdoch@mast.QueensU.CA
- Subject: Re: DOSLFNBK and XCOPY
-
- I also replicated this problem mentioned in your documentation:
-
- I have received several messages from people who have tried to
- use XCOPY and DOSLFNBK to back up their disk to a network drive
- or elsewhere, and then found on restore that Win95 won't boot
- properly. I don't know what is going wrong in these situations,
- but as far as I can tell it's either a bug in XCOPY, or people
- aren't using the right combination of options when they run it.
- If someone has the time to figure out exactly what is going
- wrong, I'd appreciate being told. In the meantime I don't
- recommend using XCOPY for backups.
-
-
- Here is a possible clue, running Win95 with PC-NFS v5.0:
-
- 1. Long filenames like "Start Menu" appear as 8.3 abbreviations
- (e.g., "STARTM~1") at the DOS prompt.
-
- 2. XCOPY treats these 8.3 abbreviations as files with *lowercase*
- letters (e.g., "startm~1") when backing-up the files to network.
-
- 3. NFS-mounted filesystems that support Unix-style filenames can
- distinguish between uppercase and lowercase letters, so the
- lowercase names are preserved on the network drive.
-
- 4. Back at the DOS prompt, PC-NFS intercedes to provide its *own*
- "legal" (but seemingly random) 8.3 filename for the remote file.
-
- 5. When the file is restored by XCOPY, it takes on this new (meaningless)
- filename. DOSLFNBK then is unable to restore its long filename...
-
-
-
- To: Duncan Murdoch
- Subject: DOSLFNBK and PC-NFS 5.x
- From: Julius Clayton
- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:19:33 +0000 (GMT)
-
- In XCOPY.TXT (from doslfn21.zip) you mention...
- > Here is a possible clue, running Win95 with PC-NFS v5.0:
-
- Reason:
- PC-NFS by default uses tilde (~) as its "name mapping character"
- for long or case-sensitive file names. This will cause problems
- with
- _loadsa_ programs (esp. since many programs, esp. MS ones, use
- this
- character to designate a temporary file).
-
- Fix:
- Change the mangling character to a caret (^) - this is done for
- DOS
- in CONFIG.SYS:
- DEVICE=C:\PCNFS.SYS /C^
- for Win3.x in SYSTEM.INI under [network drivers]:
- pcnfs.sys='/F30 /C^'
- ...but I can't find the fix under '95 (which would be the useful
- one !).
-
- Bottom line:
- This problem is very much a PC-NFS-specific one e.g. most install
- programs will crash unless the mangling character is changed as
- above.