Transcription: I basically said, I'm just going to make Unison a nice hangout to study Macs. It's an office here instead of my home where for five years, starting in about 1987, I spent about five years just studying and keeping up with all of the high-end Macintoshes being used in publishing and photographic type work. I had a lot of nice equipment in here, some of the dye sublimation printers, when they cost $40,000. The huge amounts of RAM, 500 megabyte RAM disks 10 years ago were pretty unusual.