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Here are some messages to read to get hints on installing the new shells (and windows) on a lan: #: 67427 S1/General Info/Misc. 24-May-90 06:29:27 Sb: #67395-3.01 shgen problem Fm: Jeffrey R. Drumm 76655,3322 To: Robert Wessel 75170,32 SHGEN works fine off a local hard drive (and the network, I presume) if you place SHGEN.EXE in a directory all by itself, and all of the files supplied in DSWIN2.ZIP, as well as the IPX.OBJ file from DSWIN1.ZIP into a subdirectory named SHGEN-1 off of the directory in which SHGEN.EXE resides. Took a little experimentation to figure this out, but no problems since. If you've got third party LAN drivers to load, just make the appropriate sub-directory (LAN_DRV_.???) off of the directory in which SHGEN.EXE resides. Here's what I used: \NETWARE SHGEN.EXE (from DSWIN2.ZIP) \SHGEN-1 Contents of DSWIN2.ZIP IPX.OBJ from DSWIN1.ZIP \LAN_DRV_.??? *.LAN *.OBJ . . . It works fine for me. The new IPX.COM winds up in \NETWARE\SHGEN-1. For those who haven't yet bothered, DSWIN3.ZIP and DSWIN4.ZIP are most definitely worth the download time. The new MAP and LOGIN provide for false roots (and LOGIN has LOTS of other goodies) and NDIR seems to have speeded up (as well as received a menu interface). FLAG got a little buggered though, NRW is no longer a valid option (gotta use N all by itself instead). Jeff (@MaineMedical) #: 16115 S2/Upgrades 30-May-90 18:14:47 Sb: #Install 3.01 Fm: Andy Fraser 71301,637 To: All Notes on how to upgrade your Novell shell with the upgrade disks: Download the four DSWIN files, unZIP them onto four floppies, and change the set the volume name of the floppies to the following: Disk contents Required volume name DSWIN1 doesn't seem to need a name DSWIN2 SHGEN-1 DSWIN3 UTIL-1 DSWIN4 UTIL-2 In addition to the four DSWIN files, you will also need the .LAN and .OBJ file for the particular Ethernet card you have installed. You already have these files somewhere, or the person who originally installed your present Novell driver has them. The LAN and .OBJ files are likely on the SHGEN-1 or LAN_DRV disks used previously, probably not on your hard drive anymore. Copy the IPX.OBJ file from the DSWIN1 disk to the SHGEN-1 disk. Copy your .LAN file onto the SHGEN-1 disk. Have the Ethernet card's .OBJ file ready on a disk with the volume name of LAN_DRV_002 (it's possible your system will accept the file on the SHGEN-1 disk, or a LAN_DRV_001 disk). Before proceeding, reset your PCX without loading IPX or NETx. After it's up, type IPX then NETx (NET3 or NET4) and watch for what interrupt and Ethernet card I/O address is being used. Place the SHGEN-1 disk into drive A, change to drive A, type SHGEN. The screen will show a typical Novell window, and present various menus to chose the type of card, interrupt and card I/O address to use, and so on. It will then create the new IPX.COM file, and leave it on the SHGEN-1 floppy. Rename your old IPX.COM to, for example, WIN2IPX.COM in case the new one doesn't work. Also rename your NETx.COM file to WIN2NETx.COM (x is 3 or 4, depending whether you're using DOS 3 or 4). Copy the new IPX.COM onto your hard drive. Copy either NETx.COM, EMSNETx.COM, or XMSNETx.COM onto your hard drive, depending on whether you're going to be using NET in main memory, expanded (true LIM 4.0, not emulated) memory, or extended memory (up in HIMEM.SYS I expect). Change your AUTOEXEC.BAT or LAN.BAT file as required for the new NET file. [continued] There is 1 Reply. #: 16116 S2/Upgrades 30-May-90 18:17:06 Sb: #16115-Install 3.01 Fm: Andy Fraser 71301,637 To: Andy Fraser 71301,637 (X) [continued] Re-boot your PC. Start Windows. The network should now be available there. The network drives will show up in the File Manager, the Print Manager will let you watch the network printer queue, and you can make a PIF file for Novell's mail.exe. Mail is also nicely integrated; when an express mail message is received, a window pops up in the middle of the screen announcing it's arrival. ..These procedures and observations were based on installing the shell on my AT with DOS 3.21, and using the plain NET file, and should be very close to what would work on your PC. Better than the (lack of) instructions Novell provided. I expect installing it on a 386 or using the extended or expanded NETs will also work fine, but haven't tried them yet. I also have not changed any of the files on the server, as discussed in DOC.TXT; I don't know whether they need to be if only a workstation is being upgraded. Hope this helps clarify what to do with that megabyte you've downloaded! It is nice to have Word 5, mail, and everything else available from Windows. -=Andy~ #: 54635 S1/Servers & Workstn 29-May-90 20:29:40 Thread= Parent= Sb: #54596-3.01 SHGEN floppy frenzy Fm: Ken Jones 73135,1243 To: ken westerback 73547,3520 Say Ken, Clever, isn't it, that the docs talk about three disks, and there're FOUR Zip files... Inspect the docs and check to see which collection of files is a UTIL, which is a SHGEN or whatever, AND NAME THE FLOPPIES APPROPRIATELY using the DOS LABEL command. Works for me. and that fourth disk is a do it yourself public, I think. Cheers. #: 54493 S3/Printing 29-May-90 06:18:19 Thread= Parent= Sb: #54476-3.0 Shells Fm: Mickey Applebaum(Sys-Op) 76704,71 To: John Thompson 76635,2062 (X) John, I personally would recommend upgrading ALL the stations to the new shells... There were some bugs in the 2.15 shells that have been fixed, and the new shells offer some new SHELL.CFG and command line features that weren't in the old shells. Also, if ANY of the machines you use are 80286 or 80386, or have EMS memory you can use the high memory shells and recover about 30k of RAM... For the EXTENDED memory machines (286/386) with more than 640k of RAM installed go to the IBM or MicroSoft forums and download the HIMEM.ARC file For the EMS systems, all you need is the new shell. * Reply: 54945- #: 55148 S3/Printing [***] Message 118 of 245 01-Jun-90 06:48:15 Prev= Thread=J486 Parent=J488 Sb: #54945-3.0 Shells Fm: Jeffrey R. Drumm 76655,3322 To: Al de la Torre 76416,551 Well, if you use the HIMEM shell (XMSNETx.EXE), you can free up most of the amount of high memory that NETx.COM used when it was loaded high. Reserving 64K of EXTended memory with QEMM doesn't hit on your high RAM at all; you just lose 64K of emulated EXPanded memory. You might take a 6K hit on low RAM, though, if you don't have enough HI memory to initialize XMSNETx.EXE. The XMS shell loads HI OK (I tried it on my Compaq Portable/386), and only uses 6K of HI memory. The new shells get you the MAP ROOT feature, the ability to set a preferred server in SHELL.CFG, and some other goodies. Performance with the new shells is actually a little slower; 5-10% lower seems to be the norm. #: 55545 S1/Servers & Workstn [*T*] [***] Message 76 of 250 04-Jun-90 04:23:59 Prev=J411 Thread Sb: Windows 3.0 Swap File Fm: Sean Baxter 76044,1173 To: ALL Hello Windows 3.0 networking fans, hear is another one of those hidden program facts you don't like to hear. It appears Win3.0 likes to have about a 4 Mb or more swap file (enhansed mode), preferably a permantent swap file. I called MS Windows support and they confirmed this fact and strongly recommned that a local hard drive be used for the swap file for each Win3.0 workstation. Can you imagine a 4 Mb swap file per user on the file server and all of that added NIC traffic. >> Sean << * Reply: 55675- #: 55675 S1/Servers & Workstn [***] Message 77 of 250 04-Jun-90 18:54:19 Prev= Thread= Parent= Sb: #55545-Windows 3.0 Swap File Fm: Jeff Hofstetter 70365,110 To: Sean Baxter 76044,1173 Actually, you can disable swapping while in enhanced mode by putting "paging=no" into your [386Enh] section of SYSTEM.INI. This will (of course) disable the vitrual memory feature but on our network most folks find that 4meg is adequate for normal use and losing the virtual memory isn't too bad. ..Jeff #: 55539 S1/Servers & Workstn [*T*] 04-Jun-90 02:07:14 Thread Sb: #3.01 Shells with 2.12? Fm: Milton Taylor 75360,1516 To: SYSOP (X) Can the new 3.01 shells be used with Advanced Netware 2.12? (I'll be a bit disappointed if we have to go through a rather expensive 2.12 -> 2.15 upgrade). -- Milton Taylor * Replies: 55552-, 55630-J35 #: 55552 S1/Servers & Workstn 04-Jun-90 05:18:14 Thread= Parent= Sb: #55539-3.01 Shells with 2.12? Fm: Dave Kearns<Sys-Op> 76704,62 To: Milton Taylor 75360,1516 That's what upgrades are for, Milton. Should I be disappointed that they don't work with my 4.61's or my 1.01's? That said, there really shouldn't be a problem with 2.12.... -dave * Reply: 55754- #: 71122 S3/NetWare 2.1x 12-Jun-90 20:49:14 Sb: #71027-Shell 3.01 hangs Fm: Larry Cadloff (Hartco) 75120,16 To: PANUG 76424,262 Try using SETUP /I/N. There seems to be a problem with cards using 2E0 or possibly IRQ 2. The /I parameter forces SETUP to NOT attempt a hardware check. There's a mention of it buried deep in the manualsl; apparently a check for the 8514/A card can cause this problem with some ARCnet configurations. If that doesn't help, tried reconfiguring on workstation using a base address other than 2E0. Use that machine to run SETUP for everybody's account. Windows itself has no trouble running with the usual ARCnet configuration. --LC #: 18566 S14/On your Soapbox! 20-Jun-90 15:00:26 Sb: TCC ARCNET & Windows 3.0 Fm: Thomas-Conrad Corp. 75410,1407 To: All Thomas-Conrad Arcnet Products and Microsoft Windows 3.0. We have found several parameters in Windows 3.0 that require setting to work properly in the Windows 386 ENHANCED mode in a Novell Network environment. One important step that should be done is if you are going to be using Interrupt (IRQ) 2 with an Arcnet card you must run the INSTALL program that is provided with Novell's new 3.01 shell. This INSTALL program will patch the Windows program to allow IRQ 2 to be used. Please note that this is provided by Novell for use with Microsoft's Windows 3.0 and has nothing to do with compatibility of TCC products. Another step you must do is to edit the Windows SYSTEM.INI file to include the Microsoft's EMMexclude=####-#### command to exclude the Base Memory address that your card will be using. Please see page 549 of the Windows 3.0 manual for more information on using this command. Additional information: If you will be using more than 1 megabyte of RAM for running Windows and will be wanting to use Extended Memory you may want to use the Microsoft command HIMEM.SYS (included with Windows) in your systems CONFIG.SYS file (see page 583 of the Windows 3.0 manual). Default values were used with our testing. You may use Thomas-Conrad Versions 2.20 and 2.12 Arcnet drivers for the Workstation shell. Please remember that you should use the new Novell 3.01 shell to generate a new IPX. If you will be using Extended memory you will want to use either the XMSNET3.COM or XMSNET4.COM file depending upon which DOS you are using. If you are not using any Extended memory you will want to use either NET3.COM or NET4.COM. #: 60403 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0 01-Jul-90 19:39:34 Sb: #60370-Win3 & Ethernet Fm: Dennis Beach (Sys*Op) 76701,146 To: Mark Winzenburg 76674,1430 Windows 386 enhanced mode uses IRQ 2. If you are going to use 386 enhanced mode, there is a patch to leave Irq 2 open for your network card. In System.Ini you would change VPICD entry to VPICDA.386. Also copy VPICDA.386 and .EXE from shells download to Windows directory. This has worked okay for some, but has not worked well for others. You may also need to include a statement in SYSTEM.INI to exclude the network cards address. #: 60945 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0 04-Jul-90 22:19:51 Sb: #60905-#Windows3 Booters Fm: Robert Wessel 75170,32 To: Ed Wear 74017,1147 (X) Ed, Put the files from DSWIN1 and DSWIN2 into a directory called "\NETWARE\SHGEN-1", then copy SHGEN.EXE into "\NETWARE" and run it from that directory. Or, copy all the files (from DSWIN1 & 2) on to a floppy with the label "SHGEN-1". -Robert There is 1 Reply. #: 60947 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0 04-Jul-90 23:13:05 Sb: #60905-#Windows3 Booters Fm: Allan Puariea 71020,2431 To: Ed Wear 74017,1147 (X) Ed: Download DSWIN0.TXT. So many people asked this same question that a txt file was added to explain it. <Al> There is 1 Reply.