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- #: 12527 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 30-Aug-89 19:45:41
- Sb: #TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44
- To: anyone
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- We have a TCP/IP Internet - are there any products that would allow us to login
- to a Novell File Server over this Internet? I've heard of a Micom TCP/IP
- Gateway...any comments?? I also downloaded IPX-IP.txt, has anyone purchased
- this product - and if so - does it let you logon over the internet?
-
- Thanks,
-
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- #: 12587 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 30-Aug-89 23:28:30
- Sb: #12527-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Dennis Beach 75400,327
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- Micom which is now Interlan Gateway only supports access from the LAN to the
- TCP/IP system. It does not support accessing the LAN.
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- #: 12606 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 31-Aug-89 01:49:01
- Sb: #12527-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Patrick Corrigan 75170,146
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- NetWare 386 will eventually allow TCP/IP (and other protocols) to be a peer to
- IPX/SPX. I'm not sure what this means about Internet access to NetWare
- servers, but maybe someone from Novell could comment.
-
- Patrick
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- #: 12838 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 04:51:09
- Sb: #12606-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Jason Lamb [Novell] 76247,2301
- To: Patrick Corrigan 75170,146 (X)
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- NW386 will eventually support multiple network protocols in the server, so
- that, in the case of TCP/IP, TCP/IP workstations can access the Netware server.
-
- (The likely use of this would be in conjunction with some type of NFS NLM which
- would allow TCP/IP-NFS machines to communicate with the Netware server via
- TCP/IP, and do a NFS mount of the Netware drive on their machine)
-
- -jl-
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- #: 12837 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 04:50:52
- Sb: #12527-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Jason Lamb [Novell] 76247,2301
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- Both commercial, and public domain products that run TCP/IP and IPX
- simultaneously at a PC workstation are for connecting to both Netware and
- TCP/IP hosts. You use IPX to connect to a Netware server, and TCP/IP to connect
- to a TCP/IP host. The Micom gateway lets a Netware server run the TCP/IP to a
- TCP/IP host FOR another PC workstation.
-
- You say that you have a TCP/IP internet. What you need to explore is some type
- of product that will let you route IPX packets over your internet. Like
- bridges/routers/brouters etc.
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- #: 12901 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 12:02:13
- Sb: #12527-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- Jason, That is what I am looking for...Do You know of any products that support
- that type of bridge/routing ?? I'm especilly interested in a SW solution, one
- that would use to etherlink cards in a Novell File Server, 1 running IPX and
- the other routing TCP/IP. I'd be happy to leave a phone number/mailing address
- to get the info. Thanks ---
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- #: 12970 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 17:26:17
- Sb: #12901-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Patrick Corrigan 75170,146
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- If I'm reading the information correctly, NetWare 386 should eventually provde
- that capability directly.
-
- Patrick
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- #: 12986 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 19:56:38
- Sb: #12901-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Jason Lamb [Novell] 76247,2301
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- Darrell,
-
- If your intent is to stick a PC workstation somewhere on your TCP/IP internet,
- and have it be able to establish a connection to a Netware server, then the
- internet has to route both TCP/IP packets, (what it does now), and IPX packets.
-
- The product you need, depends on the configuration of your internet. If you
- have no bridges/routers/brouters between your intended WS location, and your
- intended server, you might not need anything. If you do have one of the
- aformentioned products then it needs to route both IPX and TCP/IP packets.
- (CISCO was pointed out by someone else in this thread and is just such an
- example..) You might be able to do it with Netware bridges, but if your
- internet is a common one, it would be very difficult.
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- Having TCP/IP supported on an Etherlink card in your Netware server, buys you
- nothing. You would need some type of TCP/IP Netware shell for your PC, that
- could establish a connection with the server using TCP/IP. That would also
- require some type of software on the server as well. To my knowlegde there is
- no such product.
-
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- #: 13340 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 05-Sep-89 00:59:28
- Sb: #12901-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Robert Schloss (WPCorp) 75470,2713
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- Darrell.... I'm not sure (I've jumped in in the middle of this conversation),
- but there is a program by BYU that does both TCP/IP and IPX routing through an
- external bridge. It allows workstations to access both IPX and TCP servers on
- the ethernet backbone. I'll check my notes and get back to you this week. Let
- me know if this is simular to what you're looking for.
-
- Robert
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- #: 13474 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 05-Sep-89 16:31:09
- Sb: #13340-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Donald G. Crawford 75170,1152
- To: Robert Schloss (WPCorp) 75470,2713 (X)
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- Robert,
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- The details are in PKT-TC.ARC in LIB 17, I do believe.
-
- Don
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- #: 12950 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 01-Sep-89 14:41:14
- Sb: #12527-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Mike Richey 76004,2032
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- cisco Systems Routers will pass IPX packets through their routers, as well as
- TCP/IP. There's a lot of overhead when using multiple protocols on the routers,
- and it tends to slow them down. The cisco products work very well, you can
- contact cisco systems at 800-553-2447, they're located in california.
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- #: 13463 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 05-Sep-89 14:27:44
- Sb: #12950-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44
- To: Mike Richey 76004,2032 (X)
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- Thanks for the feedback.... I am looking into the cisco router option....I'll
- post any info I find.
-
- I have 2 Novell Networks running over Ethernet. Also running, over the same
- Ethernet Cables, are TCP/IP and several other protocals (XNS...). I think, I am
- looking for a gateway at each end to convert the IPX into TCP/IP and back
- again. I do have Novell File servers at each end, and am looking for some type
- of internal bridge that would route the local IPX stuff accross the internet to
- the other Novell file server. But, and external bridge may be a good solution.
- A dedicated PC at each end that can handle the routing/conversion.
-
- I may just have to wait for 386 - and if so thats ok.
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- #: 13515 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 05-Sep-89 20:03:09
- Sb: #13463-#TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Timothy Lange 75410,525
- To: Darrell Cheatham 76701,44 (X)
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- There is a West German company that sells a hardware/software solution for
- bridging servers via TCP/IP. It also lets PCs on the IP network to login to a
- Netware server. I remember the cost is $1500 for a ethernet board and
- software. If you want exact info reply and I will look it all up.
-
- I seem to remember a posting on the Internet by someone at Wollongong that
- talked about encapsulating IPX packets into IP so the IP network would act as a
- bridge between servers. The network programmer here thought it would be a
- trivial task, but has not had the time to check it out.
-
- Tim Lange
-
- Purdue U. Computing Center/MATH Bldg/West Lafayette, IN 47907/(317)494-1787
- Arpanet & Bitnet=tim@j.cc.purdue.edu Easplex=>INTERNET:tim@j.cc.purdue.edu
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- #: 14037 (H) S11/Applications/Utils
- 08-Sep-89 19:50:21
- Sb: #13515-TCP/IP Gateways
- Fm: Brian Meek (Excelan) 73627,1671
- To: Timothy Lange 75410,525 (X)
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- I've heard of this West German company as well... but I don't have
- much info. I'd appreciate a pointer to them.
-
- Certainly, IPX/NCP over IP will be the best solution when offered with
- NetWare 386... I would guess that we'll see this first in a Portable NW
- implementation because it's a bit closer to being really protocol independent.
- Meanwhile, here's a possible kludge using TCP/IP based terminal servers
- and NetWare External Remote bridge software:
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- NetWare IPX and TCP/IP Ethernet (San Jose)
- ----------------------------------------------------------
- | | | |
- mux1 NW Ext. Remote Br. NW ServerA Host/IP router
- | 19.2K baud| |
- +-----------+ |
- (Asynch) |DDN Network
- |
- NetWare IPX and TCP/IP Ethernet (Provo) |
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- | | | |
- mux2 NW Ext. Remote Br. NW ServerB Host/IP router
- ||||| |
- ||||+-----------+
- |||| (19.2K baud Asynch lines from mux)
- ||||
- NetWare Access Server
-
- A "Permanent Virtual Circuit" is established between serial ports on mux1
- and mux2 via TELNET protocols over TCP/IP, while NetWare Remote Bridge
- software uses the PVC to connect the remote LANs. This enables any NetWare
- client in San Jose or Provo to use attach to NetWare Server A or B.
- In addition, TCP/IP users in San Jose can establish TELNET sessions to mux2
- ports attached to the NetWare Access Server in Provo and run NetWare/DOS
- applications remotely.
-
- This should all work quite easily, I'll see if I can get someone here to
- test. Skip Addison said the current remote bridge async driver may not
- support required flow control, but I don't think that all terminal servers
- would require it anyway.
-
- brian
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- #: 15775 S2/ELS NetWare
- 20-Sep-89 07:45:56
- Sb: ELS-I Installation
- Fm: John Crook [Novell] 76702,420
- To: Don Singleton 76154,26 (X)
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- ..you have to realize that for your first installation you picked the version
- of Netware that could be a little m