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Transcription: The pawn-less, two pawns, Hans Berleiter said, as long as two pawns are off the board. I didn't know what he was talking about until he said, well, two pawns off the board usually means that it's a more open position. And particularly the two center pawns, E and D going for white, means that there are a lot of tactical opportunities. I'm a bit surprised that they would choose to go into this kind of struggle, although it's Deep Blue who had to initiate it with the early advance of the D pawns. So maybe that was a bit of a surprise for them. point, we've addressed it, Maurice and I, in the firs ...