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Transcription: responded with the move Rook A5, which was the expected move. And now if we can call again this possibility of C4, that seems to present itself. Let's just going back for just a quick moment. Black Gary could not have exchanged rooks because had he done so, after Rook takes B4, A takes B4, the pawn on A7 would have been attacked twice and that would have resulted in the loss of the pawn. So in fact, the move Rook A5 seems to be the forced move.