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What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I attended on
11-17-89 at the "Whole Life Expo." in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was
Mr. Milton William Cooper who I first became acquainted with through a text
file I downloaded from a local computer BBS.  The file dealt with the
subject of UFO's and our government's concealment of the truth about them in
such a way that it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I
attended his lecture; to learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling
of some of the proper names in the transcript which follows and allow
that I have taken it as best I could, word-for-word, from a less than
acceptable micro-cassette recording.

If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in hearing it
first hand, I ask that you please spread it as far and wide as possible.
Upload it to every BBS in your reach and please, don't change anything.
Also, please give considerable thought to Mr. Cooper's suggestions as to what
we all can do to see that this information is confirmed by our
government to make them stop what they are up to.

  Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper:

"For those of you who don't know who   I am, I was raised in a military
family. My family, my ancestors, since they came to this country, have been
government people. We have served in the military, we have been patriots,
we have fought in all the wars, we care about this country and believe in
the constitution of the United States. We know, as many people don't know,
that the Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States
of America! And that's why we've always been ready ...to do the things
needed ...to preserve and protect it."

"When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command.
As a child I'd heard stories from my father and pilots, other pilots, my
father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, UFO's, strange craft that
were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you hear that in passing, and
it's neat, and you giggle about it, and you go out and play "Space Man",
and you forget it."

"When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated in alien
crashed-craft recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it interested me, but it
was usually after quite a few bottles of beer that these stories would come
out, and sometimes the next morning I couldn't remember what the heck the
guy said."

"When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is where
everything began to happen for me. I had originally intended to just go
from service to service and do something that very few people have
ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy ...young man,
and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting life. I volunteered
for submarines, and while on the submarine U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a
transit between the Portland/Seattle area and Pearl Harbor, which was our
home port; the Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I saw a craft,
saucer-shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for
those of you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the
water approximately 2 1/2 nautical miles off the port bow, which is about
45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the submarine. It tumbled
slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It appeared to be
moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical miles, but in reality it
was moving pretty fast because it came up out of the water, did a few tumbles
and it was gone!"

"I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell him what it
was that I saw because my Daddy didn't raise no fools and in case nobody else
saw it I didn't want to be the only looney onboard the ship. So I asked
the officer of the deck to help me cover that area, and he did, which is
common for officers and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch
because they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few
seconds of watching, the same craft, or another craft exactly like it, came
down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own axis, and went into the
water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer of the deck, was literally
shocked! What could I say? Seaman Dejeralimo, who was the starboard
lookout, had also witnessed this, and ensign Ball called the captain to the
bridge who was followed by the chief quartermaster who brought a 35MM
camera, and we watched for between 7 and 10 minutes the same craft, or
different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It
was an incredible show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they
even cared, but the craft did not glow, they were metal, they were
machines without a doubt, they were obviously intelligently guided, they
were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and knowing what it
takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was
not made on the face of this Earth. Because there's nothing that man can
make, that can fly through the air at a speed like that, tumble on its own
axis, and enter the water and effectively fly beneath the sea."

"If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard a
submarine, I know there's probably some of you in this room who have
visited a submarine at one time or another, you can readily see just
without even any of the technicalities involved how difficult such a thing
would be to do. Where would it be built, that size? It was absolutely
incredible. It changed my life because then all the stories that I'd heard
all my life I knew were true, and I began seeing the world in a different
light."

"It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in
intelligence. I was sent to Viet Nam. I was assigned as a patrol boat
captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a multi-million dollar
patrol boat. My job was to gather intelligence from the people who lived
around the harbor and the fishermen who transited the harbor, and maintain
the safety and security of the harbor and the shipping. After about 5 months
I was sent up North to the DMZ, to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the
Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. We were only 3 miles
South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the Tacan
river from the river mouth to Dang Ha[sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp]
cutoff to Quang Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank,
gather intelligence, and to patrol every night and maintain the safety
and security of the river and the river traffic."

"It was while there that I discovered that there was a tremendous
amount of UFO and alien activity in Viet Nam. It was always reported in
official messages as 'enemy helicopters.' Now any of you who know
anything about the Viet Nam war know that the North Vietnamese did not have
any helicopters, especially after our first couple of air raids into North
Viet Nam. Even if they had they would not have been so foolish as to bring
them over the DMZ because that would have insured their demise. Our troops
were fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' enemy troops were
fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' and occasionally people
would disappear. And on one instance that I know for sure at least one
entire village disappeared one night due to alien activity. The reason they
used the term 'enemy helicopters' in messages and dispatches was that in
Viet Nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter where you where. They
did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking
about the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tables, and once we every
24 hours those codes would be no good. So that's what we used. We also,
because of the inability to use crypto transmitting equipment, had to devise
code words such as 'enemy helicopters.'"

"When I left Vietnam I was eventually attached to the
headquarters staff of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific
Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill overlooking Pearl
Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there, and I was
specifically attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the
Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet."

"It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my duties,
documents were placed in my hands that were so unbelievable and so incredible
that it took me quite a while to adjust to the fact that what I was
seeing was real. Now for those of you who don't understand how I could come
to see this information let me give you a little short course in security
clearance and "the need to know" and how you get to see classified
information if you're in the military or in the government, it doesn't
matter which, the rules are the same."

"Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to have
clearance at the level that the information you want to see is
classified at. In this instance it was classified 'Top Secret, Magic,
Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is the highest
security classification in the Nation. To get that type of clearance, all you
have to have is a Federal Bureau of Investigation background check, which
takes about six months and they send federal agents to your home, to your
old schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you put
down on your security clearance forms, to all your old addresses, your
neighbors, everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing
because they don't tell them what they're checking on. They just show
them their identification and start asking questions and that's when you
find out who's your friend and who's not, because a lot of people get
scared and think, 'Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talkin' to him
anymore.'"

"Now once you get that it's called a  'B.I.' and for those of you who have
received a copy of my service record look on the first page, the DD-214
where it says 'Security Clearance,' you will see the term 'B.I.' That's a
'Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now at that point, you have the
clearance for everything including Top Secret and above. What determines what
you get to see is your need to know, and the job that you have determines
what your need to know is."

"I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in
Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to know everything
concerning his area of operations which was one-half of the Earth's
surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and all the land masses in
between. Believe it or not, if we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the
United States Navy that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the
enemy at bey while we can get ourselves together, at least
historically. Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept,
but military commanders like to talk about it anyway."

"Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of material
and information that an area commander has to know, it's unbelievable, and he
has to keep track of this, he has to keep on top of it. He has to know
what's happening, he has to make the right decisions. Because it's almost
humanly impossible for anyone to do that, they have what's called a
briefing team, and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct
information, all the time, on a 24 hour basis. And every morning, between
8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered everything that happened
in the previous 24 hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the
next 24 hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had
received since the last briefing that he needed to know and that his staff
members needed to know. Occasionally we would get messages marked 'Top
Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded in
such a way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't
know what the questions were so you really didn't know what the message
was all about."

"But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two documents; one
called 'Project Grudge,' another one called 'Operation Majority.' Project
Grudge contained the history of alien involvement since around 1936, and it
began talking about Germany's involvement with a crashed disk that
they had recovered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the
technology. They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters
want to tell you. If they had been successful, we would not have won the
war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot outfly those
craft, you can't even think about it with conventional aircraft. If Germany
had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front of this
podium."

"They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy [sp] we captured
documents, we got some scientists, we got some hardware. The Russians also
got some documents, some scientists, and some hardware. It wasn't until
1947 that we were able to capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together
but it was everything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New
Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Project
Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw
photographs of live aliens, I saw photographs of autopsies, internal
organs, I saw photographs of the alien designated 'E.B.'[or Ebe] which was
held in captivity from 1949 until June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I saw the
history of what they had been able to at that time put together, from
incidents in the 1800's which involved aliens and their craft."

"I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly recovered
alien craft that had been recovered intact and undamaged, and some of them
were recovered intact and undamaged, and how that happened I have no idea.
It was called 'Project Red-light,' and first was conducted from the Tonopah
test range in the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially
built area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called 'Area-51,' code
named 'Dreamland,' in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test
sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist officially, if you ask
anyone, or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it
doesn't exist. However if you go out  there at several places and see it,
fly outside the boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there,
but according to the government it doesn't exist."

"The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until sometime in
1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test sight, in the air, and the
explosion was seen over a three state area. The pilots were killed, they had
no idea what had happened or why the craft blew up, but they put Project
Redlight on hold until a later date when the aliens supplied us with 3
craft and personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That project
is ongoing and we now have not only alien craft that we are flying, we
have craft we have built, using the captured technology, and some of the
UFO's that people report seeing in the United States, and maybe even
elsewhere, are flown by United States personnel."

"That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way beyond the limits
of what we have been told. A lot of our development technologically, since
the end of World War II, has been due to the exchange of technology which
occurs in the area called 'Area-51' on a regular basis ...ongoing."

"When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you don't know who he
is ...not too many space people in here. Professor Oberth was probably
one of the greatest rocket scientists and space commentists that ever lived.
When he retired, the government gave him a special award, there was a press
conference, all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he said,
'Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, 'Gentlemen, we cannot
take credit for all the technological developments that we have had in the
last decade. We have had help,' and that's where he stopped."

"One of the reporters raised his hand and said, 'Professor Oberth, can
you tell us what other country helped us?'"

"He said, 'It was those little guys from out in space,' and then he got
down and and would not comment any further. Now this occurred in 1959. I
can go on and on but time doesn't allow it."


"I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds of
things going on all the time, we are making rapid progress in exposing
this. Since I have begun talking, people have been coming out of the
woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have pieces of this puzzle, and are
helping us to put it together, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an
awful lot of material, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have
probably, in my remembering, made some mistakes, and I guarantee you they're
minor ones, if I have."

"We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe that the Jason
Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group existed, we now have a
letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of the Jason Scholars, an
admission from the Pentagon that they hold the highest security clearances
in the nation, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol
rank of Rear Admiral, and are treated as such on any military installation
or in any government office. There are 6 Nobel Prize winners on that list,
there are the elite of the elite of the scientific world, they are the
only ones who really know the truth about the technology today and about
the real science of physics, because the one that we're being taught all
the time... If you send your kids to college to learn physics you're
wasting your money because they're teaching them stuff that doesn't work,
it's not true, it's not real. Gravity is not what we think it is. There IS a
Unified Theory! We already know what it is, it's what makes these craft
work. It's absolutely incredible what's going on."

"How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG out of Las
Vegas? For those of you who don't, I would try tuning in on any night
between 10:00 PM and 1:00 AM. It's 840 on your AM dial, and the subject every
night are those subjects that no other media person in the United States will
touch with a 10 foot pole, every single night except Saturday night.
It's the only show that you can call in and talk to another caller, you've
got 3 minutes to say whatever you want to say as long as you don't cuss or
swear or slander anyone, and every night they're helping to expose this."

"When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at Groom Lake
everybody said, 'You're nuts, there's nothing going on out at Groom Lake!'
The listeners of the Billy Goodman radio show put together an excursion
and went up to Groom Lake and they all, ever since, every night, they go
up there and watch them test fly the alien craft ...every night! The first
night they had 100 people there. And 100 people saw 4 alien craft fly,
doing things that no airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they don't tell
us anymore that there's nothing happening at Groom Lake. What they
tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens, it's all government secret
projects. That's okay because we'll prove that wrong too eventually, it
just takes awhile. Because where we WERE ...it's not where we're AT, and
I'm really happy about that."

"Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep watching
your movies, keep watching your television commercials, your alien
programs on television, read Whitley Streeper's 'Majestic' which is a part
of the contingency plan called 'Majestic' to test the reaction of the
population to the presence of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished
my study of Whitley Streeper's book 'Majestic,' and I'm gonna tell you
right now that most of the documents in there, that he says are fiction,
are real documents that came right out of Project Grudge. It is part of the
government's campaign to leak information out in ways that they can
always deny that it's real. There's only one thing wrong with the
information in that book, the stories of the characters in there I know
nothing about. What I'm talking about are the supposed government documents
that he has in that book. I'm telling you tonight they're real. Those are
some of the same documents that I saw in Project Grudge back between 1970 &
1973, and where we have wondered before, now we know that Whitley
Streeper IS working for the government. And we had a suspicion
anyway because in the front of his book he states that he got information
and was helped by the research team of Moore, Shanderey, and Friedman.
William Moore has publicly admitted on July the 1st that he is an agent of
the United States Government, and we know that the others are too."

"This is gonna come out, and the reason they're doing it the way
they're doing it is they know eventually you're gonna find out that
it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you so that you're not
shocked, so that there's no collapse of society as we know it, so that the
religious structure doesn't fall to pieces, so that the stock market
doesn't go crazy, because these were their original fears. Now, there's
nothing we can do about the last one because it's already happened, there
will be a segment of the population that worships the aliens, even though
they're no different than us they're just from somewhere else, and they may
look a little different. They are not gods. But there are already people
worshiping the aliens and they predicted this would happen when they
slapped the secret stamp all over all this stuff."

"You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been happening
except for 3 things;" [Cooper forgot to mention the 3rd thing, or was
sidetracked, or included it into the 2nd thing.]

Number one, when they decided to keep it secret they needed to finance
it, they couldn't tell the public so they couldn't tell Congress. They
decided to finance it with the sale, importation and sale, of drugs. Now in
the documents that I read, in Operation Majority, it specifically
stated that when George Bush was the president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil,
he, in conjunction with the CIA, organized the first large scale drug
importation into this country from South and Central America by fishing
boat, to the offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from there into
the beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and law enforcement
inspections of any kind. They are still bringing in drugs, to a limited
extent, in this manner. Another manner is by CIA contract aircraft which, one
of their bases of landing is Homestead [sp] Air Force Base in Florida. We
have affidavits from air controllers who have vectored the planes in, who
have made sure that they're not interfered with in any way. We have
affidavits from personnel at Homestead Air Force Base who say the planes have
been met by Zeb Bush, who's George Bush's son. We have affidavits from
people who work in the Gulf of Mexico, in the offshore oil business, that yes
indeed, the drugs are coming in, at least some of them, from the offshore
oil platforms."
From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?" "Pardon?
...Right! Just Say No! Well that's what we're gonna do ladies and
gentlemen with your help ...we are going to say NO, no more! And you
gotta do it, you gotta act. You either gotta act, or watch your country go
down the tubes."

"Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing that's
wrong is, to keep the secret, they killed a lot of people who tried to
leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I did it, you wouldn't be
seeing me anywhere standing or walking on this Earth now. They killed
president Kennedy and during the workshop, for those of you haven't
seen the tape, I will show you, on the tape, who shot the president and why.
Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that
President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of
drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to
reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within the following
year. His assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the
Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in Dallas. It
involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and
the office of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the
driver of his car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless,
electrically operated, gas powered assassination pistol that was
specially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It
fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish
poison into the brain, and that is why, in the documents, it stated that
President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, you will
find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so
that they would not find the particles of the exploding pellet or the
shellfish poison in his brain which would have proved conclusively that
Lee Harvy Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvy Oswald never fired
a shot, he was the patsy."

Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked the obvious
question, "Why haven't YOU been assassinated?"


"If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?" Cooper posed.

"That it's the truth," several people chimed.

"I've got 'em right where I want 'em. If they touch me, everyone who's
ever heard me talk is gonna be absolutely enraged and is gonna know
that everything I've said is true. As long as they don't touch me there's
gonna be some of you who are always gonna be wondering. But eventually
we're gonna bring enough proof out, and if you're here during the workshop
you're gonna see an awful lot of it that's gonna prove to you that it's
true. It's real. And it's happening!"

"Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly, because there's
no time in 45 minutes to get into anything very much."

Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the
following day in which tangible proofs could be seen but regrettably I was
unable to attend. He then opened up the floor to questions and answers.

A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room
which in essence asked, "What about all the people in the press and others
who were in Dallas and who saw the assassination? Couldn't they tell
where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward? There must have
been plenty."

"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered
within 2 years of the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000
trillion," Cooper replied.

Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"

"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3 shots fired at
President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of
them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was fired from the grassy knoll
hit the president in the throat. The other 2 shots came from directly
behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit
Governor Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is
known as a 'can do' man, because he took 2 hits and still kept his mouth
shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the
car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the
bullet actually entered in, and it would have been virtually
impossible..." another person asked.

Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For those of
you who have been listening to all these talk show hosts, whose job it is
to be a talk show host, and who have not done any legitimate research into
this, if you come to the workshop, I will show you, on the tape, how it was
done. You will see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie,
his head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy and
you will see it with your own eyes."

Another muffled, off mike question from a member of the audience
inquiring why no one else had come forward with the information Mr.
Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew it had kept it secret
for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't been, I'm talkin' about it now.
Bill English was talkin' about it 8 years ago but everybody laughed at
Bill English. John Lear's been talkin' about it for 3 years and everybody
laughed at him. Now there's so many people have been talkin' about it,
people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's about time we
that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are and we
prove it to them every day."

Almost all of the questions from the audience were to faint to hear. The
next one dealt with the alien technology and asked in essence,
"Hasn't any one else [other than the government] come up with the energy
technology that the aliens have?" to which Mr. Cooper answered, "There's
been quite a few people who've come up with it and they've ALL been stopped,
and they'll all continue to be stopped. Because once you have it you
have FREE ENERGY. Once you have free energy they no longer have power over
you. You understand? That's why they stop it."

Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination which was
examined greatly by experts, why didn't THEY conclude that Kennedy's
driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked, "Examined by WHO greatly?", and
continued, "Most of the film that you can purchase has that segment cut out,
and you can always tell it by the person running in the background,
they'll run up to here... all of a sudden they'll be down here...
running. You will see in most of the clips that you've ever seen on
television, or in the movies, or that you're able to get your hands on,
you'll see William Greer start to turn like this...", then a muffled comment
from the audience, then Cooper answered, "That's because they clipped
it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you most of you, every time you've
seen the clip on television, never looked at the driver anyway. If you're
really honest with yourself, and with me, you know your eyes were right on
Kennedy."


A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used in present
day military equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's a lot of alien
technology contained in the Stealth bomber, that's right. The Stealth
fighter was flying for 10 years before you even knew it existed."

As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated, was
asked of Mr. Cooper by a woman closer to my ears, "Before you let us all out
of here, there's a bunch of us here wondering what can we all do to help
bring this all out?"

A single word, "REVOLT" issued from several listeners simultaneously but
Cooper responded, "Don't revolt. What you need to do is what you should have
been doing all along. You need to get involved with your government. The
first thing you need to do is purchase a copy of the Constitution, which I
know that most of you don't have anywhere in your house, and if I were
to go around this room and ask each person what the Constitution says,
most of you couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from your grocery
bill. And that's the truth! And that IS your country! So if you don't know
what your Constitution is you're dead already, so the first thing you do is
you get a copy of your Constitution. The second thing you do is you learn
it! The third thing you do is you start calling your senators and your
representatives, and the President of the United States and you start
leaning on them, and you tell them, 'Unless you straighten up the
government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I mean the
whole truth, and no more of this baloney, this's the last job you're
ever gonna have, period. And I'll do everything in my power to make sure
that comes true.' And then write them, frequently, saying the same thing. And
then when they're in your area, in their area offices, take a little
delegation and go see them, and make them understand that they're gonna be
living in poverty because they're not gonna have a job anymore come election
day. You see, the secret government may own the executive branch, but you
people, all of us, we own the Congress, and the Congress makes the
laws, and the Congress can impeach the entire executive branch! You also have
the right to petition the government for a redress of injuries. So you ARE
powerful, you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that
that vote that you haven't been doing every time election comes around, that
vote has abdicated your power. That vote you did not cast abdicated your
power and gave it to those who are subverting the Constitution and are
ruining this country."

A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for their technology?"

"People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly.

Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?"

"The Soviet Union and the United States of America have been close
allies since the end of World War II and have been closely participating in
the secret space program all this time. The Soviets have the same thing
we have, yes. What you see happening in the Soviet block right now is not
the result of people standing up and saying, 'We want to be free.' It's the
result of the international bankers saying, 'You tear down these barriers,
and you meet the West half way, give your people some freedom, the West is
gonna take some freedom away from their people so that we can put
together a one world economic system ...and have all the power. That's
what's happening! If you don't believe it, stick around and watch it!"

A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison necessary? A lot
of his brain was blown off anyway."

Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, one thing I've
learned, I learned it real good, I learned it especially good when I went
to Vietnam; just 'cause you shoot someone doesn't mean they're gonna
die. And if they don't die, they're gonna be MAD. And if they've got a
gun, you're dead. So you want the first time to be the last time. So if
you really want to to kill somebody you don't play around. If you REALLY
want to kill somebody ...you KILL them, you don't play, you make sure
that when you shoot them, they're dead. That way they can't hurt you,
can't hurt you at all."

Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, I was thankful
however that Mr. Cooper had a good public address system to amplify his
reply, "The first moon landing was May the 22nd, 1962... or excuse me, that
was the first landing on Mars. I'm sorry, May the 22nd, 1962 was the
winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately 3
orbits and landed on May the 22nd, 1962, was a joint United States /
Russian endeavor. The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime
during the ...probably middle 50's, because at the time when President
Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the end of the
decade we already had a base there."

"What about Mars?" came another quick question.

"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.

"When did that happen?"

"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was 'Adam
and Eve'."

"How long have you known about this?"

"Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July the 2nd, 1989,
and within 3 weeks of the time I revealed it publicly, the government,
to get the American people not to listen to me, came out and said that
they planned to build a base on the moon and a colony on Mars. Now, 3 days
previous to my speech, representatives from NASA said, 'We can never have a
colony on Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars
is a dead planet.' And it's NOT a dead planet, they've lied to you about
Mars."

"My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of the Crystic
Institute, and I'd like to know why it was that when we sent a representative
down to your home, at your request, you failed to produce any
documentation to substantiate your allegations."

"In the first place it was NOT at my request, I have never contacted the
Crystic Institute in my life. I was on the Carol Hemingway Show, she
contacted the Crystic institute, she told Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had
just said something about Bush and drugs on her show. HE called ME and
told me he wanted to send an investigator, in fact he told me to
even help the investigator because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne
Nelson, he is a very good gentleman, he stayed at my house for 2 days,
slept overnight on my couch, I gave him everything I had. I never told
Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne Nelson that I
had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nelson, and I quote, 'Wayne, if
I did have the documents I couldn't admit it and I don't know you from
Adam, and I don't know Daniel Shehan from Adam and what makes you think I
would give them to you.' Who am I going to give them to and how quick
are they going to disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also came to
my house with a stack of documents this thick already substantiating the
presence of aliens and extraterrestrial craft on this planet,
and they are keeping it a secret, because they're afraid somebody'll
laugh at them and they'll loose their credibility."

"We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to make a
name for themselves, trying to expose some drug runners, because those are
just the bagmen. The real crook is in the White House! And you can tell THAT
to Daniel Shehan!"

"Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal shot]?"
asked another audience member.

"Who's she gonna tell? The Secret Service just killed her husband and
they're assigned to protect the President. Also, who had her children?
The same Secret Service had her children at the time."

"Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico destroyed and all the aliens
killed?" another young man asked.

"All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely destroyed, it
was severely damaged yes."

On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that mean that
'Alternative 3' is true?"

"Alternative 3 is absolutely true and so is 'Alternative 2'."

Then a man in his late 20's or early 30's raised his hand, said something I
couldn't hear, and was apparently recognized by Mr. Cooper who asked him
to take the podium and address the audience.

"What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for coming forward
and saying something. A lot of my friends out here know that I was
involved in the United States Special Forces, UFO Tracking and Research from
the years 1971 to 1975. My name is Richard Murray, I was based out of the
71st Tac Controll Flight, McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were
'Mobile Radar Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could be
loaded on aircraft within an hour and many times were taken into areas [to]
set up radar. A lot of times we were set up around Egland [sp] Air Force
Base because that's where they have the 'Altered Temperature Weather
Control', where they can test various aircraft for their shrinkage and their
dimension change during altered temperature. So, you know, I was told
to shut up twice in 1982 and they finally threatened my parents life so
I stayed quiet, and, that's when Wendel Stevens was taken off the
streets... Just like that! And I hid for quite awhile, and decided to come
back out when I heard that you're [Cooper] of such high rank as you
were, and I felt just in saying that your credentials are true, and that
what you have to say, everything you've said here today, I've heard
before behind closed doors. And you've really tied the link for me to the
Kennedy killing. And there's a few more links that have to go on with the
Columbia Cartel and the money laundering. I think there's more than
one cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down so one can
maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works."

A muffled question then came from someone in the audience regarding the
person referred to as "Colonel Stevens."

"Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who was quickly
asked another question I couldn't hear to which he answered, "I sure hope to
hell so, he is a wonderful man and I give him my utmost respect and it was
one of the saddest days in my life to see what happened to him happen to
him. But I don't care what they say about Wendel Stevens, in my heart you
can't discredit that man to me. I don't care who the hell you are. I
won't listen to it, I don't give a shit if he was screwin' babies. You
know... that doesn't... he's not that kind of a man, I don't care what you
say, I know him personally."

The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative 2 and 3" that
were referred to briefly are, to the best of my knowledge, two government
contingency plans and I don't know which is which, to 1: Declare Martial
Law and invalidate the Constitution on the premise that a terrorist group had
entered the country with a Nuclear weapon with plans to detonate it in a
major city. All dissidents would be rounded up and placed in concentration
camps and the press and media would be nationalized. All this, if the
information becomes public before they want it to or if the aliens attempt a
takeover, and 2: Another contingency plan to contain or delay the release
of this information, the details of which I am probably wrong about anyway.

My own personal reaction to Milton William Cooper; Mr. Cooper is a man
who appears to be in his late fourties, of medium height and weight,
and was dressed casually when I saw him. His hairline was receding
slightly and he carried himself with confidence and purpose. Bill Cooper,
as he was called by several in attendance, is not a professional
speaker. His presentation lacked the polish of repeated deliveries which
all the other lectures I heard during the Expo. had, but what it lacked in
fine tuning was easily made up for in its content. Weather or not everyone
in the audience was convinced of his sincerity I do not know, but the
thunderous peal of applause which exploded as he concluded the session
spoke for me and the majority of those in attendance. I am convinced beyond
any reasonable doubt that Bill Cooper believes everything he said, and I'm
about as skeptical as they come.

Please read the attached file written by Milton William Cooper which
describes some of the government operations, projects, and code names
that pertain to the above transcript. Perhaps from the two documents you can
reach your own conclusions as to what 'Alternative 2 and 3' are.

The following is the original file "OPER-MAJ.TXT" which introduced Mr.
Cooper to me.

                 OPERATION MAJORITY FINAL RELEASE
                COPYRIGHT BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER
                       ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

               YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM
                THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS RELEASES,
               PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES. INCLUSION
              IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS
                      WRITTEN PERMISSION.

This file contains the absolute true information regarding the alien
presence on earth and the US Government's involvement with the
aliens.This file contains only the information as I saw it and only my
information.It does not contain any information from any other source.

It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this release
in a manner which would deceive the Government until someone was able to
independently confirm my identity, my employment, my service record, my
intelligence background, the identity of the person to which I gave the
information in 1972, his acknowledgment of the information and
when it was given to him, that the information is correct, that I have
not seen him since 1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any
form since 1976.This was necessary because this file is my death warrant
if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history.

All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2 different
people who have no connection with each other. I will only list one for
obvious reasons.

    Tony Pelham, Journalist
    Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper)
    300 West Boston
    Las Vegas, Nevada89102

The original information that I first released was not much MAJI that I was
not a threat long enough to have independent verification of the facts
before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] I wish to make it absolutely
clear that I do not consider myself a hero.I believe that most of you would
do the same thing if you knew the truth.I gave an oath that I would
uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States of America and I
take that oath very seriously.I am doing no more now than I did when I
fought in Vietnam.I am doing my duty.

Please make copies of this file and send it to your Congressman, your
Senator, the Attorney General of the United States, and to the Supreme
Court.Send it also to everyone you know.Attach copies of the Bill English
file and John Lears file.Send anything else you may have which tends to
support the information.

I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California,
92632, [phone], do solemnly swear that the information contained
in this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.I swear that
I saw this information in 1972 in the performance of my duties as a member
of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander In Chief of the Pacific
Fleet as a Petty Officer in the US Navy.I swear that I underwent hypnotic
regression in order to make the information as accurate as possible.I
swear that I can and will take a lie detector test or any other test of any
reputable person's choosing in order to confirm this information.I swear
that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable
and qualified Doctor of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm
this information.I will not, however submit to any test or hypnosis by
anyone who is now or has ever been connected with the Government in any
capacity for obvious reasons.

The following is brief listing of everything that I personally saw and
know from 1972 and does not contain any input from any other source
whatsoever.

MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the United States
for communications concerning this information.

OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible for every
aspect, project, and consequence of alien presence on earth.

GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected from
the beginning of the United States investigation of Unidentified Flying
Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts (IAC).  The project was funded
by CIA confidential funds (non-appropriated) and money from the
illicit drug trade. Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified
in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our
society. The purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect all scientific,
technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC
sightings and contacts with alien life forms.This orderly file of collected
information has been used to advance the United States Space Program.

MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group.  President Eisenhower
commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to
sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception and
find the truth of the alien question. The society was made up of 32 of the
most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were
designated MJ-12.  MJ-12 has total control over everything.  They are
designated by the codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way through the members of the
Jason Society.

The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12. MJ-
12 is responsible only to the President. MJ-12 runs most of the
world's illegal drug trade.This was done to hide funding and thus keep the
secret from the Congress and the people of the United States.It was
justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our
society.The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than
anything you can imagine.  MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he
informed them that he was going to tell the public all the facts of the
alien presence.He was killed by the Secret Service agent driving his car
and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view.
A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it was
described as only accessible by air.It contains full living, recreational,
and other facilities for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY.It is code named "THE
COUNTRY CLUB". Only those with TOP SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to
go there.

MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE.  All information,
disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this
agency.This agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates in
conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency.This is a
very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its
control.MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12.
SIGMA is the project which first established communications with the
aliens and is still responsible for communications.

PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with the
aliens.This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the
Constitution) with the aliens.The terms were that the aliens would give
us technology.In return we agreed to keep their presence on earth a secret,
not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to allow them to abduct
humans and animals.The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of
abductees on a periodic basis.

MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all alien connected
material, projects, and information.MAJIC means MAJI Controlled.

AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and
their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last 25,000
years and culminating with the Basque people who live in the mountainous
country on the border of France and Spain and the Syrians.

GARNET is the project responsible for control of all information and
documents regarding this subject and accountability of the information and
documents.

PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/ IAC information pertaining to
space ....... [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]

POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/ crashed craft and
aliens.

REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft.It is conducted
at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada.It was aided when the aliens gave us
craft and helped us fly them.The initial project was somewhat
successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in the air and
the pilots were killed.The project was suspended at that time until the
aliens agreed to help us.

SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. Several flying
saucer type craft were built using conventional technology.They were
unveiled to the press and flown in front of the press.The purpose was to
explain accidental sightings or disclosure of REDLIGHT as having been
the SNOWBIRD craft.

LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon.It was seen and filmed by
the Apollo Astronauts.A base, a mining operation using very large machines,
and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as
MOTHER SHIPS exist there.

NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson, Colorado.It is
responsible for security for all alien or alien craft connected projects.

DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which is
especially trained and tasked with security of these projects.

JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound generating
weapon.It was said that this weapon would be effective against the alien
craft and beam weapons.

EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. It is to be a
missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of Tuff/hard packed soil such
as that found in New Mexico with no operational damage.Missile apogee not
to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must not deviate in excess of 50
meters from designated target.The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear
warhead.

ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers.


A LARGE NOSED GREY with whom we have the treaty, the GREY reported in
abductee cases that works for the LARGE NOSED GREY, a blond human like
type described as the NORDIC, a red haired human like type called the
ORANGE.  The home of the aliens were described as being a star in the
Constellation of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1 and 2.  I cannot
remember even under hypnosis which alien belongs to which star.

EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien captured at the 1949
Roswell crash.  He died in captivity.

KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was the
hostage left with us at the first Holloman landing as a pledge that the
aliens would carry out their part of the basic agreement reached during
that meeting.  KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which
was completed by the guests at a later date.  KRLL became sick and was nursed
by Dr. G. Mendoza who became the expert on alien biology and medicine.
KRLL later died.  His information was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H.
Cril or Crill.

GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the balance of the
yellow book.  At the time I saw the information there were only 3 left
alive.  They were called (P&#'s) Alien Life Forms ....... [TRANSMISSION
GARBLED]

RELIGION The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through
hybridization.  The papers said that RH-blood was proof of this.  They
further claimed to have created all four major religions.  They showed a
hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the Government filmed.  They
claim that Jesus was created by them.

ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico,
and Nevada.  Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on indian
reservations and all in the four corners area.  The base near Dulce was
one of them.

MURDER The documents stated that many military and government personnel had
been terminated (murdered without due process of law) when they had
attempted to reveal the secret.


CRAFT RECOVERIES The documents stated that many craft had been recovered.
The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, Mexico, and
other places.

GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have to reckon
with the aliens and the document stated that it appeared that General
Doolittle was correct.

ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972.  The document stated that humans
and animals were being abducted and or mutilated.  Many vanished without a
trace.  They were taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed surgical
operations, implanted a spherical device 40 to 80 microns in size near
the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to remove it resulted in the
death of the patient.  The document estimated that 1 in every 40 people
had been implanted.  This implant was said to give the aliens total control
of that human.

                      CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE
                  INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR SHOULD
                     THE ALIENS ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER.

This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist group
had entered the United States with an Atomic weapon.  It would be announced
that the terrorists planned to detonate the weapon in a major city.
Martial Law would be declared and all persons with implants would be rounded
up along with all dissidents and would be placed into concentration camps.
The press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled.  Anyone
attempting to resist would be arrested or killed.

               CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY
                      RELEASE OF INFORMATION

This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation
ploy to delay and confuse the release of information should anyone get close
to the truth.  It was selected because of the similarity of spelling and the
similarity to MJ-12.  It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a
fruitless search for material which did not exist.

               SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE
                     DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW

The source of the material was an ONI counter-intelligence operation against
MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find out the truth of what was really going
on.The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I worked for) were not
participants in any of this.The different services and the government
conduct this type of operation against each other all the time.  The result
of this operation was that the Navy cut themselves in for a piece of the
action (technology) and control of some projects.

As you can see this file is only a little different from my previous
file.  Only some names were scrambled previously to confuse the government
long enough for someone to verify that what I have said is the truth.I have
added information in this file that puts me in absolute danger.  I have
sent a copy of this file to people all over the country and will continue to
do so.  Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe that
will protect me but I doubt it.

                    HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND
                   THIS INFORMATION AND I HAVE NO FEAR OF
                     THAT JUDGEMENT.  I SWEAR THAT THIS
                   INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE
                           BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching this point
and for their patience and understanding.  I owe you all more
than I can ever repay.

Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or if a project
name is in the wrong place.  It does not matter who is working for who or
what is really what.  It should be obvious by now that something sinister
and terribly wrong is going on involving the government and the UFO
phenomenon.  We must all band together and expose it now.  I have done my
part in the best manner that I could. I can add nothing else except my
testimony in Congress or a court of law that what I saw and have written
in this file is true and that I saw it.

Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with this file is
true and correct to the best of my knowledge and some of it is from
sources and research.  You may combine the files to get the entire picture.
Throw out only that information which conflicts with that contained in this
file.

There will be no further additions or corrections to this information either
now or in the future.  My file is complete and stands to be judged by
history.  Sometime in the future the exact papers that I saw will surface
and you will all see this exact information contained within them.

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