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- 1.) Status
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- This document is intended to be an FYI describing OSI usage in
- the Internet. This document is a reference for people looking
- into using OSI in the Internet. It contains the current status
- of OSI use at the network layer and at the application layer.
- This documents lists the results of an OSI survey taken during
- February -July of 1992.
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- Each network's survey information contains a date at which the
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- 2.) Abstract
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- This document summarizes the results of a survey of OSI usage in
- the Internet. This OSI survey looks at the current and future
- plans of networks to support the passing of traffic using the ISO
- Connectionless Network protocol (CLNP) ISO 8473 [1]. In addition
- to gauge what sort of ISO traffic may be passing, the survey
- presents results on the use of OSI applications and DECNet Phase
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- 1.) Status
- 2.) Abstract
- 3.) Introduction
- 4.) What Questions the Survey Asked
- 5.) Timeframe of Survey
- 6.) List of responders to the survey
- 7.) Summary of results
- 8.) Individual Responses by Site
- 9.) Copy of Survey form
- 10.) References
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- 3.) Introduction
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- The Internet is no longer runs just TCP/IP, but other protocols
- as well. ISO protocols are beginning to be used from the network
- layer up. Since the Internet was built on IP, a connectionless
- Network protocol, the addition of an ISO connectionless network
- protocol (CLNP) ISO 8473 is a natural transition. National
- Federal Agency Networks such as NSFNET, ESNet, and Nasa Science
- Internet now support the CLNP service. A European Pilot (RARE-
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- Besides national Federal Agency Networks supporting CLNP, other
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- support the CLNP service to expand their available service.
- Since most of the routers used on the Internet will support both
- IP and CLNP, the only issue is whether clients request the
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- Companies have traditionally thought of the Internet as TCP/IP
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- Internet are slow to appear. Yet OSI companies are spending lots
- of money to do research, testing, and commerical use over private
- lines instead of making use of the economies of scale within the
- Internet. While electronic mail and ISO application testing fall
- within the Acceptable use policy of the NSFNet and other Federal
- Agencies, commerical traffic does not. However, several non-
- Federal agency network service providers exists. These network
- service providers may serve all of the US or part of the US.
- Many of these network service providers interconnect and can
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- The Corporation for Open Systems International (COS) Inc. is
- interested trying to associate the companies associated with it
- on the Internet. These companies wanting OSI service are facing
- a TCP/IP Internet which can do OSI. However, it is difficult to
- know who to ask about OSI service.
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- Out of this rapidly changing environment, the need for this
- survey was born. This survey tries to provide information about
- the CLNP usage and service at each site that responded to this
- survey. In many ways, the survey provides a guide book for OSI
- match makers. This survey provides information for the company
- wanting OSI service to find a network. Or a network service
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- 4.) What the Questions Survey Asked
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- IETF Network OSI Operational Working Group want to survey
- networks in the Internet on their use of OSI CLNP (Connectionless
- network Layer Protocol (CLNP)) ISO 8473[1] to pass data. To
- support routing CLNP packets, routers require some "routing"
- protocol. The routing protocol support may be static, or
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- o ES-IS protocol [2],
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- A network can provide the OSI service in many forms. This survey
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- The service is for demonstrations only.
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- To provide good IP Internet network service, many Network
- Operation Center have good network tools to debug problems.
- Three often used tools to debug IP problems in the Internet are:
- ping, traceroute, and the ability to dump IP routing tables. An
- OSI versions of these basic tools are available on some routers
- and end systems. The survey queried technical staff associated
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- Networks are built to pass Application traffic across the
- network. In order to look at what OSI application traffic is
- passing across the Internet's CLNP services, the survey asked
- about current and future OSI applications uses within a network.
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- Most Internet network service providers ( area or national
- networks) are commerically based. Only if the network service
- provider has clients that request a service, can the network
- invest the money to provide this service. The survey asked what
- OSI clients are using the network at this time.
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- DECNet Phase 5 is based on the OSI protocol stack. Besides using
- the Internet to support the OSI applications, the survey queried
- the users their current and future use of DECNet Phase 5.
- 4.) Timeframe for Survey
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- The initial timeframe for this survey was by February 27th.
- Version 1 of this survey is published as a paper for the NOOP
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- 1.) No questions were asked about FTAM and VT over
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- 2.) No Questions about the Network or Company were
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- Need to include questions about:
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- b.) area it serves
- c.) Who to contact about CLNP service
- d.) Where documents are kept on the current
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- e.) Where routing plan documents are kept
- f.) Who to contact about general network
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- 3.) Questions about Network Traffic unclear
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- The questions about the number of packets
- past was unclear. Some people answered
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- Additional versions of this survey will be published monthly for
- the next 6 months. The following is the schedule of cut-off
- times for survey replies to be included in the next version of
- the paper. At the July IETF, the current version of the paper
- will be reviewed again. At that time a decision will be made
- about the usefulness of continuing to publish the results of the
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- Version of Survey Cutoff Time for Replies Published
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- Version 1 March 7th March 14th
- Version 2 March 31st April 7th
- Version 3 April 30th May 7th
- Version 4 May 31st June 7th
- Version 5 June 31st July 7th
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- 5) List of Responders to the Survey
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- Network Service Provider List
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- Network Service Provider Person Responding Date
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- Berkley David Wasley 2/20/92
- CICNET Linda Winkler 2/21/92
- CONCert Alen Clegg 2/14/92
- DataNet Juha Hienanen 2/14/92
- ESNet Cathy Wittbrodt 3/6/92
- ICMNet Mark Oros 2/21/92
- MERIT/NSFNET Susan Hares 3/7/92
- NEARNet John Curran
- NorthWestNet Dan Jordt 2/20/92
- NCSC (???) April B. Merrill 2/24/92
- Sesquinet Bill Manning 2/12/92
- UUNET Andrew Partan 2/20/92
- WESTNET
- - University of Utah Alan Cole 2/20/92
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- Nasa Science Network, rare-wg-4 CLNS sites, CICNET, Westnet at
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- 7.) Summary of Results between all sites
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- This section summarizes survey's collected. The sections summarize questions
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- 7.1) Overview of OSI services
- 7.2) Support at Network Layer
- 7.3) OSI applications
- 7.4) Interest in Pilot Projects
- 7.5) DECNet Phase 5
- 7.6) Future CLNP
- 7.7) Future OSI applications
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- These sections try to group answers to the question. Most of these answers
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- 7.1.1 Network Service Provider Whether network has
- OSI related support support for CLNP, DECNet
- Phase 5, OSI company, or
- an OSI application
- 7.1.2 Company OSI Related Support Whether company has
- support for CLNP, DECNet
- Phase 5, an attachment
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- communication across the
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- 7.2.1.1 Routing Software on Routers Number and types of
- - Network Service Providers routers in network,
- Number and types of
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- Network CLNP support/ DECNET Traffic Companies use OSI
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- Berkeley no no none none
- CICNET yes, none yet None Member sites
- Prototype experimenting
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- CONCERT yes, no no At Concert:
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- DATANet yes, no yes, 4 FTAM, X.400,
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- ESNET yes, yes, *2 no FTAM, X.400,
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- Sesquinet yes, Pilot/ not yet *4 no X.500, FTAM,
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- *1 - (ESNET) " We consider the backbone service to be a production service, but
- everyone realizes that CLNP is a new serivce and due to lack of experience with
- CLNP, problems may not be solved as quicly as problems with our other production
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- *3 - (NEARNET) NEARNET will provide CLNS transport between OSI knowledgeable
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- *4 - (Sesquinet) - "Not yet, depends on if ESNET will be using P5. NSI
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- The following networks have been passing CLNP, but did not respond to the
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- - NASA Science Network
- - SURANET
- - OSINET
- - Members of the RARE-WG4-CLNS project
- - MRNet
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- stack: CLNP/TP4
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- Company or Currently a Interested Interest in Interest Test Bed
- Network Part of a OSI Test bed at in at site if
- Service Pilot Project application your site Test bed additional
- Provider Pilot for OSI at your funds
- Projects site for available
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- network
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- CICNET yes - VT, yes, VT, no no *1 yes
- FTAM, FTAM,
- X.400, X.500 X.400,
- X.500
- CONCERT yes - VT, yes- VT, yes ? yes
- FTAM, X.400, FTAM,
- X.500 X.400,
- X.500
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- DATANET yes - X.400 yes - X.400 yes yes yes
- and FTAM and FTAM
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- PSI X.500
- XNREN X.400
- MERIT yes - yes yes yes yes
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- Network Phase 5 Phase 5 Phase 5 Phase 5 DECNet
- Service routers hosts DNS Applications Phase 5
- Provider use
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- CONCERT no no no no ?
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- DATANET no no no no ?
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- ESNET some ? ? ? yes?
- traffic
- via cisco
- MERIT-
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- NSFNET no no no no no
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- NEARNet no no no no ?
- NorthWest no no no no no - do
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- Sesquinet no no no no ?
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- Network if Clients if IS-IS on Network only if only if
- Service all routers Tools Clients, Clients,
- Provider and IS-IS IS-IS, and
- OSI Network
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- NCSC Don't Know Don't Know yes yes Don't Know
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- Company in X.500 / in X.400 in FTAM in VT over: in Xwindows
- over: over: over: TCP/IP or over:
- TCP/IP or TCP/IP or TCP/IP or CLNP-TP4 or CLNP-TP4
- CLNP-TP4 or CLNP-TP4 CLNP-TP4 or both
- both or both both (X.25-TP0)
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- both have CLNP have CLNP
- try TCP/IP try TCP/IP
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- Net
- NCSC yes / CLNP- yes / CLNP- yes / using yes / CLNP- yes
- TP4 TP4 CLNP-TP4 TP4
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- interest from our memebership to generate a consensus within our Technical
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- Purpose for the Survey:
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- The IETF Network OSI Operational Working Group wants to find out details on OSI
- use in the Internet. The results of the survey will be published as an FYI
- document for the Internet. Any perople answering the Survey will be sent
- Electronic copies of the FYI document on the results of the survey. As people
- begin to use OSI on the Internet, they will be able to refer to this document to
- find out who supports the ISO CLNP layer across the Network.
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- Timeframe for the Survey:
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- Please return this survey by February 27th. 1992. Results will be published as
- a paper for the NOOP group by March 7th, 1992. Send response to skh@merit.edu.
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- (Editor's note: Even though the initial timeframe for the survey has passed,
- A second version will be coming out by April 7th, 1992. Please send in your
- response to skh@merit.edu.)
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- Introduction to the Survey:
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- Questions 1-6 are for those who route Connection Network Layer Packets (CLNP
- ISO 8473) or DECNET Phase 5 traffic on their network. Questions 7-8 are for
- those who do not yet route CLNP or DECNET Phase 5.
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- 1.) Do you support the routing of Connection Network Layer Protocol (CLNP (ISO
- 8473)) packets on your network?
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- 1.1) What number of routers do you have in your
- network? How many of these routers pass
- CLNP packets?
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- 1.2) What router vendors do you use in your
- network? What router vendors do you use
- in the routers that are passing CLNP packets?
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- 1.3) What type of intra-domain routing do you do within your
- network? IS-IS? Cisco IGRP based OSI? static?
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- 1.4) What type of inter-domain routing do you do?
- Cisco poor-man's Inter-domain routing?
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- high level of service,
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- service not at highest level
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- Prototype - A first offerings of CLNP which
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- You may include other comments to further qualify
- this service level.
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- Production, Experimental, Prototype, or
- Pilot?
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- a.) What type of routers are you using?
- (manufacturer and model?
- b.) How many routers do you have?
- c.) What type of hosts are sending traffic?
- d.) How many DECNET Phase 5 hosts do you have?
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- 3.2) How many of these OSI companies send
- application data regularly?
- 3.3) What are the companies attached to your network?
- 3.4) What applications are these companies using?
- It would be helpful to list the applications
- by company if that is possible.
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- 3.5) Would any of these companies be interested
- in "Pilot" projects to try exchanging OSI
- applications with those people on the Internet.
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- 4.) Do you support OSI applications at your network site?
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- 4.1) What applications do you support?
- Do you support:
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- X.500
- X.400
- FTAM
- VT
- Xwindows
- SQL based applications
- CMIP
- (please answer yes or no to each applications)
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- others - please list with company
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- to above please indicate:
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- a.) equipment the application runs on
- b.) does it run over CLNP/TP4 stack or
- TCP/IP stack
- c.) what vendor supplies the software
- d.) any comments on how easy it is to use
- e.) Is your application based on ISODE?
- If so what version of ISODE?
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- group for this application?
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- to join with other test beds at other
- networks to test out new software in the
- Internet?
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- at your site if additional funding for
- this was available? Would you be willing
- on either a short term or long term basis
- to allow
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- b.) OSI traceroute
- c.) OSI table dump
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- What routers have these functions? How would
- you rate the User Interface to these network
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- osi ping, osi traceroute, and osi routing
- table dump) to support CLNP in your network?
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- In X.500 over TCP/IP? In X.500
- over CLNP?
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- in X.400 over TCP/IP? In X.400
- over CLNP?
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- ISO Transport Class 4 (TP4) and CLNP?
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- ISO transport Class 0 (TP0) and X.25?
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