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intro.bth 20 beyond the horizon - issue number two ------------------------------------- After several months of delays and a million prospective coders we finally bring you Beyond The Horizon issue number two. For those of you who have less than adaquate memories, BTH issue number one was released in the March 1995 Blade 1-year anniversary epic. About two months ago, someone mentioned that we should look into starting BTH again (after the original coder left, the project was put on the back burner). I decided that this was probably a good idea, seeing as there is a shortage of electronic magazines in todays art scene. So about a month ago, Shivan Bastard applied to blade as a coder. I took that opportunity to start BTH once again, and gave him the job of coding this wonderful magazine. So here it is, Beyond The Horizon Issue Two.. Enjoy it, and look for more installments in the coming months. ...mindcrime.blade president,bth coordinator... notes.bth 15 beyond the horizon - programmers notes -------------------------------------- Well this is my first ever emag, so dont laugh, next month i promise ill throw in some vga, and maybe some nice background music. if you run into any problems, email me. I had to write most of the articles myself this issue and thats not cool, so if you like the emag and would like to see it continue then write an article and send it in. oh yea.. if you want the want the source to the mag [pascal/ASM] i will trade you for working source to an ANSI scroller. l8'ta ...shivan bastard.,bth coder... contact.bth 19 contact information ------------------- if you would like to contibute to beyond the horizon, or just voice an opinion or harass the members, please use one of the following forms of contacting us... boards- alderaan - 908.224.8780 nuclear holocaust - 904.287.9862 internet- mike@exit109.com (mindcrime) murray@jax.gulfnet.com (shivan bastard) - bth staff. credits.bth 8 Beyond the Horizon - Issue Number Two - December 1995 ----------------------------------------------------- Layout and Design: MindCrime/Shivan Bastard Coding: Shivan Bastard Main Interface: Subconsciousness Reader Interface: Facsimile/Mindcrime/Pushead Moral Support : MindCrime, Belial, Pushead article.1 92 Where the hell are all the emags? I guess all the various scene writers ran out of arguments saying how bad the ansi scene sucks. Isn't that a shame. So what do we write about now? Well, everything in the ansi scene seems to have cooled down a bit. There aren't a million little groups popping up everywhere anymore. A lot of the people have left the scene , and less are coming into it. People who had an impact before are not really there anymore. Nothing is as it was when I first became involved, and really it's a shame. The 908 scene has literally been destroyed. The major boards are just about gone. The North Star, Tlorah, and Aneurysm are gone. Eternal Insanity has changed into Alderaan. The major 908 people have either moved or just don't bother with the ansi scene anymore. Has anyone come to rescue the 908 scene? No, because there is nothing anyone can do. Its not just the 908 scene that is dying, it is the entire ansi scene that is dying. It is simple to throw blame. Anyone can say that the emags were a major factor in the destruction of the ansi scene. One can also blame the internet , but what is the point. Blame is not going to help anyone. So what can be done? There are a few solutions. I would say that the scene is in real danger of disappearing right now. What is needed is a Renaissance, a re-birth. The people who actually care about the scene have to step up and take control. They can't just sit there and watch as everything comes crashing down upon them. It is up to them to salvage the scene and make it what it once was. People must realize that art is what the scene is about. Art, quality and loyalty. Things such as bi-tri-quad-grouping must end. That is one of the major things destroying the quality and quantity of the art. Egotistic attitudes must be lost. A desire to create good art is needed. Charging money and the attempt to exploit people must be ended. This is supposed to be the 'underground'. Yet more and more it is becoming like that which we try to escape from. People have to once again WANT to create and be original and the people who care have to lead the way. The group leaders have to demand good work from their members Don't just take adequate work, take only the best. Don't just take something that is no good for the sake of taking it , trying not to offend the artist so they won't leave your group. If the artist isn't going to produce something of quality, what the hell purpose does he serve. Screw him, let him go. For the scene to be as cool as it once was , certain values must be met. Art, loyalty, and quality. These things must be the first priority of every artist and everyone involed , if the scene is going to be cool again. Everything else is of little importance.The people who care and the people who want to see the scene cool again must become the leaders they must show the new people the way. You are all probably saying to yourself that I have no right to be telling you all this. Maybe you are right. However, as I see it. I am just a person who found the scene almost a year ago , someone who has seen the scene at its peak and is now seeing the scene at its lowest point. I think it's a shame The scene was so cool when I first became involved and I would like to see it that way once again. All we have to do is try. Is this done yet? No. It makes me sick to see all this. What is the point of it all? Why does everyone say how sucky and lame the scene is? Why, when _THEY_ are the problem? People like that destroyed the scene, and you are just going to sit there and let them. It is time for a big change. Something must happen , because it sure as shit can't go on like this much longer. - belial (blade.klunk) article.2 223 ▓▀ ▀ The November Acquisition ▀ ▀▓ ▒ ▄■ from ACiD Productions▄ ▓ ░ ▄▄▓▀█▄ ■▄▄ █▓▄ ▀■ ▄▄█▀█▄TM▒ ▐██▌ ▐██▄ █▓▄ ■▄ ▀▌ ▐█▓▌ ▐██ ░ ▀▀ ▄▄█▄█▌ ███▀■▄ ▀▓▄▄ ■▀ ▄▄██▄█▄ ▀■▐██▀█▓█▀▄█▄█■▄██ ▐█▀█▀■▄██▓▀█▓▀▌ █▓▌ █▒█ ▐█▓█ ▐█▓▌ █▓█ ▐█▄█▌ █▒▓ ░ ▐██▌ █▒█■▀█▒█ ▀▀▀▀■█▒█ █▓█▌ █▒█ ■▀██▌ █░█ █▒█ ▄▄▄▄ █▒█▌ ▐▒█▌ █░█▄■ ▐▀█ █ ▓▄ █░█ ▐█▓▌ █░█▌▄▀░▀▓▄█░█▌ ▓ ▀█▄█▌▀█▄█▄██▀■▄█▄█▀ ▄ ▀█▄█ ░ ▐▌ ▀█▌ ▀█▀ rk!▐█▀▐▌ █▄■▀ ▀█▌ ▒ ▀■ ▀■ ▄▀ ▀■▄▓▌ ▀■ ▓ EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED...▐▌ ▄ ▀▀▀ ▀ ▀ ▀ ■▀ ▀ ▀▀▀ ACDU1195.ZIP :: Reviewed by Shivan Bastard & Pushead of Blade! -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Shivan Bastard's Comment ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Filename Artist Comments -------------------------------------------------------------- ACIDVIEW EXE skull leader? a new version of ACiDView! nice interface but there is a file mask bug ACID-TEE.GIF CAT Cat is good and all, but the design on the shirt is just plain ugly, maybe if it was $10 someone might actually buy one but, no, probably not ;) BM-EGOD RIP Bedlam smooth looking rip of wolverine not toon looking, nice font EO-DEM1 ANS El Guapo very nice, cartoon style pic of a boy, confusing background GS-EVIL ANS genghus poor subject, does not belong in an ACiD pack. KO-KOSH GIF kosh nice futuristic pic, lighting source, shadows and everything! NEWS1195 ANS ACID PRESS i love these things! NIT-CHAR ANS nitnetsnoc looks like 2 seperate ansi's? P1-BADL1 GIF prisonernumber1 awesome fantasy vga of a beast and a sorceror. good lighting source P1-EI1 GIF prisonernumber1 Awesome chick, nice lighting again P1-HH GIF prisonernumber1 Nice skull & head, but lose the superimposed pumpkin and it'll looks great. P1-LAN ANS prisonernumber1 Very Nice ANSI, subject matter, composition, excellent. (8) P1-PZERO ANS prisonernumber1 Nice chick, reminds me of Darkforce's style (8) PG-GZERO ANS plague Nice chick, good positioning. SA-INTXC ANS soul assasin what is this crap? (5) STC-ACD2 GIF stone the crow <acidview couldnt view this> STC-RN ANS stone the crow very nice composition of a chic knealing. (9) TRE-IOM4 ANS treason nice ansi of magneto i think from a back angle. (7) ZV-CCI RIP zevo excellent rip, too bad cci is down again. (9) -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Best Picks ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Best ANSI : STC-RN.ANS by Stone The Crow Best RIP : BM-EGOD.RIP Best VGA : P1-BADL1.GIF -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ General Comments ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Acid has definately got the VGA/RIP talent, but groups such as Legend have stolen all the ANSI artists. Much better pack than last month's. -sb! -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Pushead's Review ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- [ACID-TEE.GIF] - I have to give CAT credit, he is an excellent VGA artist and the t-shirt looks nice and all but, really, who is going to dish out the $$$ for one of those things? ...........................< RATED 05/10 >... [BM-EGOD .RIP] - First of all, Wolverine is one of my favorite characters out there, and this RIP definitely does him justice. My praises go to Bedlam for blessing us with this piece of artwork. BTW: Old school pics always turn out the best! ;) ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [EO-DEM1 .ANS] - Like the ansi, but what happened to his right eyeball? ...........................< RATED 06/10 >... [GS-EVIL .ANS] - This ansi is well done, blends well with the font, and makes sense ..it has an 'evil' mood to it ..feel free to make me an ansi anytime! ...........................< RATED 06/10 >... [KO-KOSH .GIF] - Terrific rendering .. Excellent light casting and shadow-ing. What more could you ask for? ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [NIT-CHAR.ANS] - Although it looks like you pasted two ansis together at around lines 6-80, the porportion on the second guy's arm area and the detail on his face is perfect! ...........................< RATED 07/10 >... [P1-BADL1.GIF] - Woah. 'Nuf said. ...........................< RATED 10/10 >... [P1-EI1 .GIF] - Man what program ARE you using to draw this stuff? That's comic book cover quality right there .. marvel? ...........................< RATED 10/10 >... [P1-HH .GIF] - Happy Halloween. The coloring is good,but for some wierd reason this just doesn't seem like 'p1' quality. ...........................< RATED 07/10 >... [P1-LAN .ANS] - Is there anything this guy doesn't do well? ...........................< RATED 07/10 >... [P1-PZERO.ANS] - The woman's face and the beautiful font make this ansi worth taking another look at. ...........................< RATED 08/10 >... [PG-GZERO.ANS] - Jim Lee would be proud. ...........................< RATED 08/10 >... [SA-INTXC.ANS] - Hmm .. EE's face is pretty good looking, but the font kills the rest of the ansi. ...........................< RATED 04/10 >... [STC-ACD2.GIF] - The font is kind of weak and the dragon could use some better coloring, but it has a decent layout. ...........................< RATED 06/10 >... [STC-RN .ANS] - Man, great job on the porportions and the background.Her chest and cheek bones are very well formed. ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [TRE-IOMN.ANS] - Nice pic .. i've yet to see a magneto ansi of it's equal. BUT (there is always a but) the font needs some work. ...........................< RATED 06/10 >... [ZV-CCI .RIP] - Very nice, sharp drawing. Good coloring, and a good font. ...........................< RATED 08/10 >... -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Best Picks ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Best ANSI : STC-RN.ANS by Stone The Crow Best RIP : BM-EGOD.RIP Best VGA : P1-EI1.GIF -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ General Comments ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- This Acid pack was certainly worth downloading. The VGA's by Prisoner #1 and the RIP's a la Bedlam really stand out amongst the other points of the pack. The j1 ANSI this month, however, was rather weak compared to Legend and Saga. Acid is still the most experienced, knowledgable group out there, not to mention it was probably the FIRST one to exist. So keep putting out above-average packs, and we'll still love ya. -ph ▐▌ ▄▄▄▄ b l ▄██▄ d e ▄▄▄▄ ▓▓▓▀ ▀■ ▄▀████▀▄ ■▀ ▀▓██ ▐▓▓▓▓▀▄▄▓▓▓▓▓▄▐▌▄█████▄▄▀████▌ ▀▓▀▄▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌▐█████████▄▀▓▀ ▐▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌▐██████████▌ ■ ▓▓▓▓▀▄▀▓▓▓▓▌▐████▀▄▀████ ■ ▀ ▀▀ ▄▀ ▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▄▀▓▓▓███▀▄███████▀ ▀▄ ▀▀ ▀ ▐▌ ▐▓▓▓▓▓▄▓▓▓▓▓█████▄█████▌ ▐▌ ▓ ▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▄▄█████████▀ █ ▐▌ ■ ▀▀▓▓▓▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▀██▓▀▀ ■ ▐▌ ▀▄ ▄ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▄ ▄▀ ▀▀▄▄▄ ▀ ▀█▄▄█▀ ▀ ▄▄▄▀▀ ▀▀▀▄▄▄ ▓▄▄▓ ▄▄▄▀▀▀ ▀▄ ▄▀ 1 9 ▐▌▐▌ 9 5 ██ ▐▌ article.3 174 ▓▀█ ▓▀▀▀██▄ ░▐▄▄▓▓▓ ▀▀▀▀██▄ █ █ █ █ ▐██▌ ▄ █ ▄▄▄ ▄▓▄ █ ▓ ▐██▌░ ▐ █▄ █ █▄█▀▀ █ █ ▐██ ▀ ▀ ▀ ███▓ ▄██▀▀▀▀ ▀▓█▄▄▄▌░ █▄█ ▐██ ▓▀▀▀██▄ ███▐ ▀█ ▄▀▄██▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀▀▀▀▓██ █ █ ▐██▌ ▀▀▀▀ ▄ ■▄▓▄▀█▀▄▄▄▀▀████▄▄ ▀ █ █▄█▀▀ ▀▀▀▓ ▐▌▓▄▄▀ ▐████▀█▄▀▀█████ █▄▓▄▄▄▌░ █ █ ▀▐▌██▀▀ ▀██▄▓██▀▓ ▀ ▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▀ ▀█ █ ░░ ▀▀▀▀█▄▓ ▄▄▓▓▓█▄▄██▀ ▄▌ █ █ ▄▓▄ ▄▄██▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀▀▀▀ ▀█▓▄█▄▓ ▀ ▄█████▄█████▀▀▀ ▄▄▓▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ░ ■ ▀████▄▀▀▀▀ ▄▄██▌ ▐▀▄▀██▓▀▀▀ ▀▄▄▄▄▓▄id ▐████▀▄▄▀███▀▀ ░ ░ ▒ ▄▄▓▄▀▄█▓▄ ▀▀████▓▀ 04 ░ ░ ░▐▄▄▄███████████▌ ▓▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▌░▐▄▄▄▄▓▄▓ LEGEND04.ZIP :: Reviewed by Shivan Bastard & Pushead of Blade! -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Shivan Bastard's Comment ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Filename Artist Comments -------------------------------------------------------------- EV-CC1 ANS Everlast Some weird red guy, at least it is not a chic , and he drew it from an angle. EV-CLD1 ANS Everlast Chick looking straight ahead. Getting old very quick but it's nicely drawn and a nice font. EV-MF21 ANS Everlast Bad proportions (The guys neck) Not bad overall .. nice font. EV-TNW1 ANS Everlast Another mad looking weird guy! FILE_ID DIZ LEGEND Better than most diz's , just a bit too much though. FONTS04 ZIP LEGEND <NOT REVIEWED> GL-IZ ANS Grimlock Grimlock is the man. The hair looks awesome. Too short though LEGEND04 ANS Neurotic Wow! The maxx and some chic nearly flawless. Nice font by someone else. LGND-TEE GIF LEGEND HAH! NC-NH1 ANS Neurotic Perfect shading, proportions, 250 lines , subject is way too jumbled together near the end. Pathetic font, however. NC-PIR2 ANS Neurotic Another nice pic , NC needs to find something besides bikini chicks to draw. NCS-AW1 ANS Neurotic/Somms Perfect proportion,nice shading and an actual background! Butt- Ugly font though. US-PIR2 ANS Multiple Artists NOT legend quality at all,looks looks like work from saga. -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Best Picks ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Best ANSI - LEGEND04.ANS by Neurotic -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ General Comments ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Pretty nice pack .. small but quality .. neurotic seems to me to be the most productive .. I didn't like Everlast's style. If Lord Jazz was around to help them out with the fonts , we'd see MUCH better looking ANSi's. Glad that Grimlock put in a piece this month, I'd like to see more out of him and Somms though. -sb! -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Pushead's Review ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- [EV-CC1 .ANS] - The guy's face is good , but the rest of the picture along with the font is terrible. ...........................< RATED 04/10 >... [EV-CLD1 .ANS] - An attempt to draw like Neurotic maybe? The chic's face is strange and unreal. Po font. ...........................< RATED 03/10 >... [EV-MF21 .ANS] - The shading/coloring is good .. but again .. bad porportion and not enough detail. ...........................< RATED 04/10 >... [EV-TNW1 .ANS] - This ansi is a definite improvement , but the font could use some hefty work. ...........................< RATED 05/10 >... [GL-IZ .ANS] - What can i say? Porportion is good, the hair is beautiful, and it makes me think 'voodoo'. (Plus it's for my board hah) ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [LEGEND04.ANS] - Excellent picture of the Maxx .. good picture of a chic, but who is she? ...........................< RATED 10/10 >... [LGND-TEE.GIF] - Very funny guy. Stick to ansi. ...........................< RATED 05/10 >... [NC-NH1 .ANS] - Man o man .. nice ansi .. of course .. ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [NC-PIR2 .ANS] - DAMN .. she looks good .. i can't wait to see my Neurotic ansi ;) Font could be better. ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [NCS-AW1 .ANS] - Neurotic HAM mixed with Somms eggs .. it fits the plate perfectly. ...........................< RATED 09/10 >... [US-PIR2 .ANS] - I don't know WHAT SB is talking about, I like this ansi. It's got good porportion, the way they colored it is good, and it has some kind of background. ...........................< RATED 08/10 >... -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Best Picks ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- Best ANSI : LEGEND04.ANS by Neurotic -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ General Comments ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- The Legend pack was generally outstanding. Neurotic & Somms carry all the weight for the group, however. W/O them there would be no Legend. Grimlock did a good job on my ansi, but that was it, just one ansi. I think he could have released 1 or 2 more. Maybe not. Everlast needs to join cia or something. He's decent, but he's just not Legend quality. Good pack guys. 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Ended Log on 11/19/95 at 06:16p iv.2 221 Chatting with Subconsciousness on 12/01/95 at 07:33p <sb> hey man.. can i interview ya for BTH? <sc> ya' know i say yea! heh... yea sure man... now though?! <sb> im need to finish up the emag. <sc> ahh... alright... you got the questions? <sb> hell no.. i was just gonna do it on the fly. <sc> alright... if thats what ya wanna do... <sb> have to.. heh.. gotta get it done.. lets see first off whats your handle? <sc> uhh... subconciousness... <sb> ever used any others? <sc> yup, "sheeple", long story... heh... <sb> heh.. how long have you been calling boards? <sc> eh, since i was about 9, i yusta' call out and get my dad to navigate me around the board and i would tell him what files i wanted and he'd get them for me... <sb> heh. thats cool.. how old are ya now? <sc> 15 damnit! it blows! <sb> yea. heh.. uhm.. how long have you been drawing ansis.? <sc> let's see... since about the beginning of summer... that was when i first tried... <sb> what did your first ansis look like? any good? or did it take alot of time? <sc> yea they realy sucked... but i thought they were fresh as hell... i think everyone thinks they look fresh at first though? heh... <sb> yea, i remember i used to love your old logos you did for me, then i look at the new ones and they dont look so great anymore heh.. <sc> heh... thats definitely understandable, still don't understand why you use that one nh logo? heh... <sb> make me a new one?! heh.. <sb> uhm,, what groups and artists first inspired you? <sc> well... blade was the first pack i ever got my grubby hands on... i had lunch with mk the logo master of blade (formely) and he told me to give avga a call... so i started leeching the packs and i wanted to try it out, so there it was! of course mk inspired me...and well... not much more... kid krylon realy inspired me... <sb> i think mk was everyones inspiration in 904. <sc> well... he was realy mine because i see him everyday, heh... <sb> yea thats cool.. what do you think of the current state of the art scene.. better/worse? why? <sc> well... i realy get tired of people complaining about how people are just jumping to it and ruining the scene... it's kinda' annoing all that pissing and moaning... there have to be some artists getting involved anyways... the same ones won't be around forever! but i do admit... alot of people out there kinda' suck about how they act in the scene... how they jump around from group to group and stuff... i don't like that... i think you should stay with a group and be loyal... but it's just an opinoin.. as for me, i'm sorry i ruined the scene for all you old schoolers, but i love the old school work if thats anything to ya', heh... <sb> great answer.. is there any one artist/group/thing you can point out that has specificaly lowered the standards of the art scene? <sc> well, i could say some names on my mind.. but i don't want to offend anyone, heh... i'll tell you later... <sb> thats what emags are for! [offending people] <sb> have you ever worked with anything other than ansi? <sc> umm... hmm.. meaning? <sb> rip/vga/ascii <sc> hah! funny you mentioned that... i've been screwing around with all of those...but they suck so hard, maybe i'll get good at em' eventualy... i'm realy trying RIP right now, but GOD! i suck! <sb> everyone sucks when they first start.. but after a while it will be just like your ansi.. awesome!.. <sc> thanks, hope so... i'll make you RIP one day, heh... <sb> thanks.. lets see.. i was gonna say something but <sc> oh c'mon.. what about the questions like my fav. color? heh... <sb> thats at the very end heh.. <sc> oh! <sb> oh yea... whats groups have <sb> you been affiliated with? <sc> pharts, thats it... i was in it because pus was the one that realy encouraged me to do ansi (i guess that's an inspiration right there!) and he was starting the group, so i said sure... not like anyone else was going to accept me! heh... <sb> heh yea, pharts was a good thing, got everyone working <sb> good, before pharts nobody realy cared. <sc> yea... i hope we release again just to show how good we are! :) <sb> [january 1st] heh.. thats what me and kevin were talkin about today anyway.. shhh top secret.. <sb> heh.. k anywayz.. now with the favorite ice cream flavor style questions.. <sc> oh, i love these ones. heh... <sb> alright.. start with.. Height? <sc> little over 6' <sb> weight? <sc> 147 <sb> hair color? <sc> dirty brown (not litteraly) <sb> I sub/c am a a) surfer b) pothead d) computer geek c) who needs order e) jock f) redneck g) fill in the blank h) all of the above. <sc> alright... g)skater... you left that one out! heh... <sb> ahh.. damnit.. hheh. ok well what music do ya listen to? <sc> oh no... Loooooooong list...well, we'll just say i listen to pretty much averything, alternative, rap, hip-jop, jazz, metal, anything loud, house mix, uhh, jungle (some, it all sounds alike!) and well, anything that i findm out i like later on, yea... <sb> heh,, damn you couldve just said 'everything but country' <sc> 'everything', heh... oh yea... contry! nah! heh... just fuckin' with ya'... <sb> i hope not.. <sb> hmm.. did you ever see strange days? <sc> oh no, don't ask me that.. everyonbe will gang up on me, unfortunately not, sorry! <sb> this is unexusable.. just wait till pushead finds out. <sb> hold on [phone] alright.. weird neighbor looking for her son heheh.. <sc> like he's in yer house?!?! heh... <sb> she thought i went to the green day concert with her son.. yea right. <sc> eeeew! green day!? <sb> but uhm. is there anything else you want to say? <sc> uhm... nope, i geuss not... just (do i say my greets here?) <sb> go for it <sc> ahh... well, i don't realy know many people yet... so my greets are pretty inderect. but i want to say hey to pushead(for encouraging me), mk, he inspired me, geez... mindcrime, for accepting me into blade and of course the blade team... hope to be with ya's for a while and get to know ya's, and everyone in the art scene that isn't pissing and moaning and just making smooth art. thats it! geez! <sb> alright cool.. i guess ill talk to ya later man.. <sc> alright, cool. lates.. Ended Log on 12/01/95 at 08:02p iv.3 98 Chatting with modeus khahn on 12/03/95 at 08:23p (interviewer's notes: damn this was short, oh well i cant do everything for the emag. Everyone in blade should draw at least on ansi, write one article, or interview one person for the next issue of BTH to be a success.) <sb> hey man.. ive got 30 minutes to finish coding BTH can i ask you a few questions and throw it in there? <mk> yeah <sb> alright cool.. lets see.. what have you been up to the last few months? <mk> uhhmmm... hehe... well i was without a cpu for months and i did not have enough motivation to sit down in front of the cpu to draw ansis for a long time but i think its starting to be a little more fun for me now. <sb> thats cool.. do you think you will come back to blade? <mk> i'm not sure yet. i will probably draw for a little while longer and see what it feels like and then decide on what to do. <sb> sounds like a good plan.. so whatever happened with AVGA. why did you take it down? was that at the same time you quit drawing? <mk> well... i took the board down mainly because i got sick of logging on to it all the time, and getting real sick of the same old look in the ansis and shit like that. so basically i just took it down because i didnt have the time to keep making new logos and cosmetic changes to it. <sb> yea i feel like that about my own board.. except i have alot less ansis to work with heh,.. so what do you do away from the computer? <mk> heh.. yeah if i set my bored back up it will be with a lot less ansis... uhmm... well i play guitar... and just phukin party and shit. <sb> typical teenager.. how old are you anyway? <mk> 17 yrs.. <sb> thats cool.. im only 16 (for the next 2 months anyway).. so have you started calling out again, talking to some of your old art pals? <mk> nah not really. just some of the same old local boards that i have been on forever since the beginning... and the dark half to get my obv/2 shitz back... <sb> so your planning on putting obv up again? <mk> most likely, but i will probably spend a damn year configuring it till i get it perfect.. :) <sb> yea thats cool.. what about lord jazz. werent you good friends with him? what do you thing about this whole 'huma is now a pd board', 'lets change our name to pumpkin head and join saga' thing hehh? <mk> ... woah... heh.. well thats cool dood if he's having fun... i haven't talked to him in a while... saw him on irc a few months ago but that was the last time. i miss him .. hehe <sb> heh.. speaking of the internet... what do you think about the internet? is it good for the 'scene' or is it killing it like some people claim? <mk> i don't know... i hate that word scene.. i really don't care what happens to whatever it is... i just like looking at cool ansis.. heh <sb> heh.. simple philosophy..well is there anything you want to add? i cant think of anything else to ask ya and i got to get back to work. <sb> heh <mk> hmm.. nah... im good... hehe <sb> alright cool.. make sure to call back tommorow and grab the 3 meg blade pack! hah <mk> ok. coolio <sb> talk to ya later. <mk> lighter Ended Log on 12/03/95 at 08:34p iv.4 1 notes.rev 14 -------------------------------------------------------------- ░ ░░ ░░░░░░▒░▒▒▒▓▒ Top 3 ANSIs of the Month ▒▓▒▒▒░▒░░░░░░ ░░ ░ -------------------------------------------------------------- December Review Team : Pushead, Shivan Bastard All November 1995 Art/Ansi Packs reviewed. Sorry for the lack of an ansi scroller but its the first issue, and its the best we could do in short notice. A working Ansi scroller is at the top of the list of improvements for BTH numba' three. oh yea, if ya dont like our choices, fuck you! =)