actual thoughts
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 04:16:09 

      193.158.173.179 writes:

      1. I don't believe at END at the end 
      2. Gonna check (once again) FA CI LI TY 
      3. Gonna check (once again) PE NG UI N? and ?R IU KA N?

      The Seeker

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combined frequency tally : Version 3 
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 04:21:07 

      193.158.173.89 writes:

      combined frequency tally : Version 3

      (this should be bug-free)

       
                    L Q L N K .. A .. R R I L R 
                          R F .. B .. K C F F G 
                        B I I .. C .. F Y 
                  L L L O S E .. D .. W L F S O 
                        R T T .. E .. D W V T W 
            U B T B N S D C L .. F .. B T Z Y X Y Z U  
                          B T .. G .. 
                            U .. H .. S R U 
                          L A .. I .. C C 
                      L M B X .. K .. A 
          W A V Y O O S Y O D .. L .. U F Z Y D A O D U K D I A
                              .. M .. K U 
                            W .. N .. V P A F 
                        D L T .. O .. L D L L 
                        R Y N .. P ..
                              .. Q .. A 
                      A H A A .. R .. V E B U P 
                      V U D H .. S .. Y D L F 
                          E F .. T .. E E O W G F 
                  F H L R M L .. U .. H S F 
                        E N R .. V .. Y L S
                      E T E D .. W .. N L 
                            F .. X .. K 
                C F Z F L S V .. Y .. L P L 
                        F F L .. Z .. Y 



      The Seeker 

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thoughts, part two
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 06:42:09 

      193.158.164.178 writes:

      forget to mention : 

      4. probably it will look like : 

      ...... BEWARE STOP ........ ICE STOP ...... WEASELS STOP ......

      (could be 'red penguin frenzy' instead 'weasel'. 

      Why : we know (believe), that the 3 words are not following each other. So they have to be splitted through the message.
      BUT : with this, you could evenually get some false meaning of the message, so I (if I were an agent) would put the words
      just before the STOPs. Gonna give this theory a try ! 

      Gotta run

      The Seeker 

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more ..
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 09:17:26 

      62.156.30.138 writes:

      forgot to mention : 

      either FA CI LI TY or ?F AC IL IT Y* 


      Oh no, gotta run again 

      The Seeker 

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Re: more ..
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 12:58:17 

      216.224.156.121 writes:

      I recieved an interesting mail from Shade last night; many things he said we have already hashed until death do us
      part...(which does not mean in our tired frustration we haven't overlooked something already done) I leave it to him to post; or
      give me Okay to post his mail thoughts/work ...but one interesting thing he wrote that has not been written here is the
      concept of the word stop; this word in his text would surely (if in message; not only end a sentence but BEGIN a sentence as
      the last word of a preceeding sentence:
      thus:

      stopbewareiceweasels(x)stop
      or
      stopbewareiceweaselsstop

      I was flipping thru channels on tv 2 days ago and heard the word CODE
      I went back immediately...it was the Nova Enigma program! I had missed 20 minutes of it...they never mentioned Playfair in
      the remainder of this 2 hour show...

      Some things I learned from the show however was that...they looked for consistancies from certain german operators...they
      looked for certain phrases used by many as they built profiles on these operator-transmitters; i.e. Hiel Hitler; ect were often
      used by specific operators ect...


      It just seems idiotic to me that the words STOP and especially END would be consistanly used in messages...this would
      always give the enemy 7 letters to work with on a daily code breaking basis; the word End would always give them at least 3
      letters...this is why I figured that at least 3 of those XXXX at the end (besides filling a block as explained from others) must
      signify the word "end" which would never give away those three letters...but would signal the end of message...

      I am not saying these words are not there in this Contest scenario... but in REAL LIFE I bet they were not...

      I also saw something similiar to princesses above post; I think I posted something like it down below somewhere...since i am
      haveing troubel getting my brain to wrap around how to REVERSE build a matrix from the frequency chart as it is...I also
      thought...they said....easiest to hardest...Princess is probably correct since Nothing 'linear' seems to be working...but...but
      EASY???

      anyway....just some more thoughts; don't let them throw u from your path/s

      jeff 

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Re: Re: more ..
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 13:11:09 

      216.224.156.121 writes:

      The seeker

      I was also wondering if we could write up a little social engineering mail to Nova and ask them, even though it officaly ends on
      19th, NOT to post the answers on the 19th or 20th as it sounds like they may do...perhaps if they saw an effort by a group
      was diligently working on this then they would hold off posting answers... 

      jeff 

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slow train coming
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 13:50:56 

      193.159.101.199 writes:

      Yeah Jeff, 
      though I see me climbing slowly in this train you call 'tired frustration' --- IMO the worst thing is, that they post all THREE
      solutions and we will miss a big chance to learn something new. 


      the seeke

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Re: slow train coming
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 14:28:41 

      194.78.233.94 writes:

      hi everybody,

      I have been working all day long (beside 'official' work) on those letter frequencies ... and ... nothing came up :( so you may
      guess i am really frustated ... Each time you think you got the right thought, it doesn't take very long before you figure out
      that wasn't the right one :(

      My last thought, which I'm still wondering how i could try it is that we have lots of 'consecutive frequent digrams'. For example
      we have (starting from the beginning) AR DL, FB SD EW, LY AR ...and at the end : LA BF FZ. 
      As those 'frequent digram' in our cipher should correspond to frequent digram in the plaintext, I'm trying to figure out how to
      exploit that. 
      Most frequent digram in english are : EN, RE, ER, NT, TH, ON, IN, TE, AN, OR, ST (yes, ST, like in STOP), ... So those
      consecutive digram should be meaningfull with put side by side.

      For example, if YL->TH and OL->ER, we -could- have : TH ER E for YL OL and TH RE E for YL LO.

      Unfortunately, I still can't figure out a way to try this in a 'logical' way. 

      Something I thought about too, is that we probably have some numbers written in our text (to give a schedule time or
      whatever else). And numbers have to be written literaly like ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.... Once again, I don't know how to
      try this in a logical way.

      If I resume what I learned about breaking playfair, I think I can say that to break it, we need to know a plain-cipher text pair.
      not only the text, but also the position. From there we can build (or try to:) a matrix. The only thing i am sure (even if seeker
      don't seems to agree:) is that END is F BG. And most probably we have ES SE ND as FU UF BG. But that's only 3
      rectangle (or lines) without any letter in common with them. 
      That's really too few. 
      We also have those 'weasels' and 'penguin' ... But all we could discover is that they -most probably- don't appear as a long
      sentence in the plain text. I have also come to the result that there is about 15 000 possible combinaison for the 3 words put
      apart from each others.
      So I tried to use the frequencies. But are the probabilities usable on a text of only 170 characters ? I'm not sure of this.
      Anyway, all i am -almost- sure, thanks to the frequencies is that the 'L' stand on the same line as the 'E'.

      So, to conclude this (to ?) long post, I won't say I'm begging nova to publish the solution, but I would really like to know what
      we missed.
      Btw, I'm scared that when I'll read the solution, I'll hit my head on every wall around yelling 'oh laurent, how could you have
      been so stupid ! how could you not see that ', LOL ... And I'm convinced my wife will be -very- happy they publish the solution
      ... She start to get rid of me saying 'STOP' or 'END' everytime she talk to me :)

      Well, I'm going to lay down with all my papers and my pen and try to figure out something else again ... one day left :)

      oh, and yes i agree with you seeker, it would be very bad to know all the three solution at once (even if we can't change it). I
      already learned a lot even without finding the solution to this 1st contest.

      Sorry for this long, boring post,
      Regards,

      Laurent.

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Re: Re: slow train coming
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 14:50:50 

      216.224.156.121 writes:

      ...as laurent says...I have a specific door I am looking at that has my head-print in it when this solution comes out...

      ...also as he says: 
      we do not know the keyword
      we do not know the configuration of the matrix because of not knowing the keyword

      does it go left to right? Up to down? across and rebuild it into a second matrix...? are their other forms of tis matrix we have
      not read about?


      so as Sherlock Holmes or somebody said; when all else has been done and nothing is right; what is left is the truth...

      and the truth right now is that all we really have is the FREQENCIES to work with

      there has to be a way to build the matrix using the FREQUENcies ONLY...since all else seems to fail...this is why I have
      asked a few times how would i take certain letters and build a matrix from such and such letters...becaue right now its the
      only 'truth' I see left to us...

      just some more thoughts...and

      Seeker; are u going to write to Nova? If Not i am going to...I don't want my head in my door; and if we come up with the
      solution (we; because we deserve it!) it will be one of the most satisfying cracks I can imagine...



      jeff 

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Doors and letters
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 14:58:08 

      62.156.30.97 writes:

      Hi Jeff, 

      agree with you in most of your post. - Writing to NOVA ? Hmm, don't know. Do you think we can convince them ? 

      The Seeker 

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more than one day !
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 14:54:09 

      62.156.30.97 writes:

      Hi Laurent, 

      good news or bad news, take it as it is : 
      IMO friday, 19th is the last day to send the solution. So the solutions won't get published before saturday. - And I hope, that
      they don't just publish the correct answer, but even more how to reach this solution. 
      I know it sounds silly, but I won't check the solutions of nr 2 and nr. 3 

      Hope your wife provides you with some helmet to read the solution :)

      the seeker

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Re: Sample letter
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 15:12:40 

      216.224.156.121 writes:

      To Nova Nazi CodeBreakers Contest Host

      Present group working frantically to de-cipher the beware ice weasels
      Cipher#1 at our home office http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb850700 stop
      We understand that cipher must be broken by November 19th stop
      We are working night and day world-wide to bust this cipher stop
      We ask if at all possible that you not post your final solutions
      until November 23 stop Imperative that these secrets not be revealed
      so that our future sanity and efforts thus far are not spoiled stop
      The training of beginner cipher breakers could well be at stake stop
      Thank you for your consideration and co-operation in this nobel cause end



      jeff 

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Let it roll
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 15:17:52 

      193.158.173.23 writes:

      Hi Jeff, 

      brilliant letter ! Why not give it a try. Though I agree with Laurent, that there is a little man inside my head who is rather lucky
      when the solution is posted (not to mention my family), I think some additional time could be a good chance. 

      regards + respects 

      the seeker 

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Re: transmission sent stop
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 15:45:59 

      216.224.156.121 writes:

      ...letter sent...
      ...another thing laurent brought up

      all the posts I saw from examples of WWII did also include a DATE...with numbers

      I also found a page which provided the ..--
      for morse code...in case the sender or reciever screwed up the initial transmission...but I really could not tell by studying the
      morse code if sender or reciever could have misprinted a letter...just another puzzel 
      ... 

      jeff 

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layed down for 2 hours and ...
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 16:34:59 

      194.78.235.41 writes:

      Hi,

      just layed down for 2 hours and ... nothing :( LOL

      anyway, it's always a pleasure to come here and see that i'm not the only one working on this.

      Just a few comments about your previous post :

      - First jeff, you said you enjoyED watching our mind working ... I hope you will keep enjoying them in the future ... And your
      own brain was not the last one to work :)
      - About that email you plan to send to nova ... I don't want to play the little devil but here could be their answer :
      "Don't click on the answer link stop end"
      But it could be worth to try anyway.

      Now also, there are a few thing i was just thinking about while reading your previous post. First, the goal of that contest was
      to catch "adience" for their tv show ... now that it's done ... do you think they will ever publish anything ? Second, still in the
      same way, do you think a 'smart' guy like our Jim (who should probably be very busy) will spend his time reading whatever
      people send him and comment it ?
      If yes, then I may assume he made his contest hard enough to not have to many 'essay' to comment about. Pushing this to
      the limit ... they can always say : 'due to the fact that no 'correct' solution have been submitted this contest will stay open
      forever and solution won't be published (this also due to request of some groups working on it ... hehe jeff). Of course our Jim
      will have made the cipher in a way that there is NO solutions.

      Well, I'm rambling now ... this is maybe too much 'reversing' :)

      You're surely right seeker, solution won't be online before saturday at least. And I probably won't read solution 2 and 3 neither
      ... but who know ? :) As for the helmet, wife just said she got a whole box of them ... want some ? LOL

      For the letter frequencies. As much as I think about it, as much I get convinced that we can't get anything 'valuable' out of
      those digram frequencies due to the fact that the 'sample' is really too short (don't know english word for it, but in french we
      call this 'ecart-type' I think). 
      On the other hand, the monogram (letters) frequencies clearly show that L is the most frequent letter with F, so i assume
      both of them are on the same line as E. 
      That, with END still keep me to my 'famous' grid :

      ? U S ? ?
      B ? ? N ?
      D E F G L
      ? ? ? ? ?
      ? ? ? ? ?


      with the first 6 ? beeing H I K A C (in unknow order of course). 
      An option could be L above E which would give a word like 'BLINK' and US could be USA. 
      Well, that's were I am stuck for now.
      Maybe it should be a good idea for us to put our 'favorite' matrix on here and to compare them ?

      Back on the couch now for a few more brain twisting :)

      Respects,
      Laurent. 

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Tomorrow never knows
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 16:55:18 

      193.158.173.183 writes:

      1. Shame on me for breaking the law saying 'open new threads please' :)

      2. Nevertheless : correct, Jeff - I hope you will stay tuned ! 

      3. Well, NOVA is probably money-orientated, so they will do what THEY want ! 

      4. A suggestion : should they really post the THREE solutions at the end of the week, is there any interest - after a short
      break please ! - to continue with cipher two and (later) cipher three ? (of course WITHOUT reading the 'how-to-essay' they
      hopefully will post at NOVAs ?) - I think, another teamwork would give us new knowledge ! 

      5. Yeah, that IS a fine project group. We are not finished, so the famous final words have to stay behind, but to follow Jeff's
      words : thanks. 

      6. Helmets : got one already, thanks Laurent :)

      7. Laurent, your matrix : gonna think about. Good idea with posting our maybe-things. 

      regards

      the seeker

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Re: layed down for 2 hours and ...
 Wednesday, 17-Nov-1999 17:06:14 

      208.128.132.37 writes:

      I think of this while I lay down also...I think that there may be many couch-cipher-s around with bruises on their heads.:)

      Sure their TV show...
      I watch all these type programs...nova; history channels; discovery; science; forensic investigations; especially Universe and
      space; I love Universe and space; ect...but I disagree that the motive ONLY was for ratings...
      yes to gather more info on this puzzel I would sit for 2 hours and watch...but there was nothing about Playfair on that show...I
      don't think the show parrelled the contest because the contest was not Enigma prone...
      look to ourselves...we like to spread our learning teachings knowledge...I think this Jim is this type...he would probably die for
      the chance to interact with people on his level of thought; and he would probably THRIVE on finding students who craved his
      knowledgeable tuteledge,,,I think that he will most diffinately answer to anyone with solutions; and possibly he himself craves
      the interaction with minds of his own logic and future interactions and friendships....therefore I believe there HAS TO BE
      solutions...otherwise its just ratings-hype as u say...and I don't think his motivation lies there; his is ...knowledge about
      history and puzzels, and finding and showing logic on the web; 

      ...I don't think my mail will stop anything from proceeding...but if we don't try...we remain the same as when we woke up...:)

      the frequencies I meant; was NOt the letters L
      and f and d
      I meant taking each pair of frequencys; starting with those of l and f and d; and juggeling them with all the others somehow to
      produce the working matrix;

      I need to ask one thing laurent:

      I se your matrix has indeed bg= nd

      and here is where i am lost in rebuilding I think:
      does not FB= en ?

      if NOT....this is where I am re-building incorrectly
      if so
      your matrix does not = this

      respects fellow couch potatoe thinker 

      jeff 

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lone wolf rule
 Tuesday, 16-Nov-1999 15:44:17 

      216.224.153.93 writes:

      another rule of enigma is no letter can = itself...
      I don't know if that follows here; but if so...then only one line works...so that no matching letter lines up under one another...
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx  xx??? probably NO
      VYTES YEDLU TERVL FNVUH  <<..LL No     DWARD LCFFB SDEWN PXKIC 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--aa; NO
      FTREO LKALZ YLSLT OBKEV <<..ss No      LYARM KRBOD NALDY PLAET 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx<<--aa No       bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--ww; No
      OLQAD FHSFZ WNAID SMURU                OLHRY LLOTW FYLDI CVLUS 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--BB; No 
      VSSFZ YLUNF FXLKT GBCDO  <
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      TFLAB FFZCY FUUFB GXXXX <<--aa; No
      if so; maybe also assume that BCDO = STOP 



      jeff 

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Re: I hate trying to make these things look right..arrrr; try again
 Tuesday, 16-Nov-1999 15:52:03 

      216.224.153.93 writes:

      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx  xx??? probably NO
      VYTES YEDLU TERVL FNVUH  <<..LL No     DWARD LCFFB SDEWN PXKIC 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--aa; NO
      FTREO LKALZ YLSLT OBKEV <<..ss No      LYARM KRBOD NALDY PLAET 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx<<--aa No       bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--ww; No
      OLQAD FHSFZ WNAID SMURU                OLHRY LLOTW FYLDI CVLUS 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx                bewar eicew easel sxxxx <<--BB; No 
      VSSFZ YLUNF FXLKT GBCDO<<--NO MATCH    BFALE WRPFY WLHUL DARLI 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      TFLAB FFZCY FUUFB GXXXX <<--aa; No
      so perhaps this line= 
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      VSSFZ YLUNF FXLKT GBCDO  <<--NO MATCH
      if so; maybe also assume that BCDO = STOP ???



      jeff 

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Re: very frustrating
 Tuesday, 16-Nov-1999 16:30:32 

      216.224.153.93 writes:

      I began wondering today if the four x's at the end don't just fill the five letter block...
      what if
      end= BGX...and the last three x's fill the block?

      doesn't matter...as hard as I have tried I simply can not figure out HOW TO rebuild a matrix...so I can't ever complete any of
      my ideas

      FB G
      en d
      fb= en
      . . f . n      . . e . b   . . n . f    . . b . e
      . . e . b      . . f . n   . . b . e    . . n . f
      bg=nd
      . f . n  g     . e . b  d   g . n . f    d . b . e   a e i o u y
      . e . b  d     . f . n  g   d . b . e    g . n . f
      f . n  g .     e . b d .
      e . b  d .     f . n g .
      ...............b e d . .  e 
                     n f g . .  n
                                g
      ..............................................................
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      VSSFZ YLUNF FXLKT GBCDO<<--NO MATCH
       
      BG X
      EN D
        
      bg= en
      . . b . n      . . e . g   . . n . g    . . b . e
      . . e . g      . . b . n   . . b . e    . . n . g
      gx=nd
      . b . n  x     . e . g  d    x . n . b     d . g . e   a e i o u y
      . e . g  d     . b . n  x    d . g . e     x . n . b
      f . n  g .     e . b d .
      e . b  d .     f . n g .
      a b . n  x       d . g . e    a i o u




      I post this to show How confused and tired I am...don't know how to reconstruct a box...

      therefore....Im going for beer and a rest

      I thought I had something this morning with the Keyword 'england' or english...well Im done for today....this is seriously
      frustrating:
      hummm; 





      jeff 

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look here jeff
 Tuesday, 16-Nov-1999 16:48:31 

      195.238.20.78 writes:

      Hi Jeff,

      just back from a 2 day trip in foreign country.

      have a look at here http://www.und.nodak.edu/org/crypto/crypto/army.field.manual/separate.chaps/ 
      ... especially chapter 7. I think there is a good example on how to build matrix.

      Respects,
      Laurent.

      PS : 3 days left :( 

      Laurent 

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Re: okay I have finally FLIPPed out
 Tuesday, 16-Nov-1999 22:05:23 

      216.224.153.93 writes:

      Thanks laurent...I will go read that; I dl-ed it a little while ago;

      I just get it.....NOTHING lines up...

      #1
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx   b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      V YT ES YE DL UT ER VL FN   V UH DW AR DL CF FB SD EW 
       
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx   b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      N PX KI CF TR EO LK AL ZY   L SL TO BK EV LY AR MK RB  
       
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx   b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      O DN AL DY PL AE TO LQ AD   F HS FZ WN AI DS MU RU OL 
                     
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx   b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      H RY LL OT WF YL DI CV LU   S VS SF ZY LU NF FX LK TG            
          
      b ew ar ei ce we as el sx   b ew ar ei ce we as el sx
      B CD OB FA LE WR PF YW LH   U LD AR LI TF LA BF FZ CY   
      F UU FB GX XX X  
      #2
      already hashed this one to death
      #3
      bew are ice wea sel sxx   
      bew are ice wea sel sxx     bew are ice wea sel sxx 
      VYT ESY EDL UTE RVL FNV     UHD WAR DLC FFB SDE WNP 
      bew are ice wea sel sxx     bew are ice wea sel sxx 
      XKI CFT REO LKA LZY LSL     TOB KEV LYA RMK RBO DNA  
                     
      bew are ice wea sel sxx     bew are ice wea sel sxx 
      LDY PLA ETO LQA DFH SFZ     WNA IDS MUR UOL HRY LLO  
                    
      bew are ice wea sel sxx     bew are ice wea sel sxx
      TWF YLD ICV LUS VSS FZY     LUN FFX LKT GBC DOB FAL 
                   
      bew are ice wea sel sxx     bew are ice wea sel sxx 
      EWR PFY WLH ULD ARL ITF     LAB FFZ CYF UUF BGX XXX
                  
           
      #4
      bewa reic ewea sels
        
      bewa reic ewea sels    bewa reic ewea sels         
      VYTE SYED LUTE RVLF    NVUH DWAR DLCF FBSD   
      bewa reic ewea sels    bewa reic ewea sels 
      EWNP XKIC FTRE OLKA    LZYL SLTO BKEV LYAR   
                     
      bewa reic ewea sels    bewa reic ewea sels  
      MKRB ODNA LDYP LAET    OLQA DFHS FZWN AIDS  
      bewa reic ewea sels    bewa reic ewea sels
      MURU OLHR YLLO TWFY    LDIC VLUS VSSF ZYLU  
                 
      bewa reic ewea sels    bewa reic ewea sels 
      NFFX LKTG BCDO BFAL    EWRP FYWL HULD ARLI             
                     
      bewa reic ewea sels 
      TFLA BFFZ CYFU UFBG    XXXX
      bewar eicew easel sxxxx
      #5
      hashed this one to death also
      beware icewea selsxx
      #6
      beware icewea selsxx    beware icewea selsxx
      VYTESY EDLUTE RVLFNV    UHDWAR DLCFFB SDEWNP   
      beware icewea selsxx    beware icewea selsxx
      XKICFT REOLKA LZYLSL    TOBKEV LYARMK RBODNA    
                      
      beware icewea selsxx    beware icewea selsxx
      LDYPLA ETOLQA DFHSFZ    WNAIDS MURUOL HRYLLO    
                    
      beware icewea selsxx    beware icewea selsxx 
      TWFYLD ICVLUS VSSFZY    LUNFFX LKTGBC DOBFAL   
      beware icewea selsxx    beware icewea selsxx  
      EWRPFY WLHULD ARLITF    LABFFZ CYFUUF BGXXXX
                  
      #8
      bewareic eweasels
      bewareic eweasels      bewareic eweasels
      VYTESYED LUTERVLF      NVUHDWAR DLCFFBSD    
      bewareic eweasels      bewareic eweasels
      EWNPXKIC FTREOLKA      LZYLSLTO BKEVLYAR   
      bewareic eweasels      bewareic eweasels
      MKRBODNA LDYPLAET      OLQADFHS FZWNAIDS  
                      
      bewareic eweasels      bewareic eweasels 
      MURUOLHR YLLOTWFY      LDICVLUS VSSFZYLU   
      bewareic eweasels      bewareic eweasels 
      NFFXLKTG BCDOBFAL      EWRPFYWL HULDARLI               
                   
      bewareic eweasels  
      TFLABFFZ CYFUUFBG      XXXX
      #9
      it better not be #9 cause I'm done with this tact...
      #16
      bewareiceweasels
      VYTESYEDLUTERVLF
      Okay......I have gone and done it...I have completely flipped out...
      what if hes a spy?
      babelfish:
      beware ice weasels=  in german
      pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf
      pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf    pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf
      VY TE SY ED LU TE RV LF NV UH DW    AR DL CF FB SD EW NP XK IC FT RE
      pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf    pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf
      FT RE OL KA LZ YL SL TO BK EV LY    AR MK RB OD NA LD YP LA ET OL QA
      pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf    pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf
      DF HS FZ WN AI DS MU RU OL HR YL    LO TW FY LD IC VL US VS SF ZY LU
      pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf    pa ss en si eE is we as el sa uf
      NF FX LK TG BC DO BF AL EW RP FY    WL HU LD AR LI TF LA BF FZ CY FU   UFB GXXXX
          
       VYTES YEDLU TERVL FNVUH DWARD LCFFB SDEWN PXKIC 
                     FTREO LKALZ YLSLT OBKEV LYARM KRBOD NALDY PLAET 
                     OLQAD FHSFZ WNAID SMURU OLHRY LLOTW FYLDI CVLUS 
                     VSSFZ YLUNF FXLKT GBCDO BFALE WRPFY WLHUL DARLI