Ellen


NrrdGrrl! Discussion Forum: Music, Lit, and Pop Culture: T.V.-- everybody's favorite time-waster: Ellen
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Unt_ on Sunday, March 8, 1998 - 07:56 pm:

sure, this has probably been overtalked. I don't care. I'm just p-o'd cuz that new pizza show took its place. I wish i know when it would be back on.
Discuss? Do you think that Ellen will be back next year? I hope so, and some things seemed to set it up, but it could also end abruptly. I know that pizza show is not *supposed* to be permanent. I heard that Ellen is supposed to be back in May or something....
What have been the best lines you've heard? I like the scene at the party she had with lotsa gay people over when someone said "I don't care what they do in their bedroom, just as long as they don't show it in public." It was just funny. There's been others, maybe they'll come back to me


By Judi k on Monday, March 9, 1998 - 11:44 am:

I don't know if Ellen will be back next year or not, but i sure hope so! IMHO, that show didn't really get seriously funny until she came out. I'm so thrilled that they can make all those sly funny jokes about sexuality-- much better than Seinfeld's dorky sex "say it without saying it" jokes.

I guess the network (ABC) is having some problems with the content of the show though, like with the warnings about adult material and stuff (they don't post those warnings on dharma & greg wich is just as racy but straight, you notice).

I think it's a matter of whether Ellen *wants* to come back for another year. I sure hope you do Ellen!


By Unt_ on Monday, March 9, 1998 - 08:31 pm:

Yeah, I think in some ways Ellen dosn't want to come back, but in other ways she does. When she first came out, she was gonna take it slowly (not have a girlfriend...notice that when she first came out, she wasn't ready for dating, but the next season, she was). Now more recently, she is wanting to keep it going on, to have Ellen grow & progress.
I know somw people say she only came out to save her show...i try to tell them she did it for herself. Its a mental health sort of thing.
yeah


By Ann on Monday, March 16, 1998 - 01:56 pm:

i'm assuming that the show will be cancelled due to lack of ratings and there is nothing we can do about it. i think she would love to stay but won't be able to. i don't think straight people enjoy it for the most part- the gay themes aren't that interesting to "mainstream" people and her sense of self-depreciating humor isn't mainstream at all. but god, i just love her to pieces. what a powerful, wonderful feeling to see scenes from my queer life portrayed on tv... on a sitcom no less. that pizza show will probably replace it though. such is life.


By Judi K. on Wednesday, March 18, 1998 - 01:40 pm:

what do you think about that stuff that Chastitiy Bono was supposed to have said-- that the show was "too gay" and that they should tone the gay humor and situations down some to gain more mainstream acceptance? i later heard that she claims she was quoted out of context, but it's got to be something that's on the minds of the network.

i dunno, my husband and i are straight and we think Ellen's gotten so much funnier since she came out-- it's like her comedy has been liberated. But i guess maybe mainstream america just isn't ready for it. what a shame.


By Alexis on Thursday, March 26, 1998 - 09:13 pm:

It's true that in the March 9th edition of Variety Chastity Bono, the openly gay daughter of Sonny Bono and Cher, was quoted as saying that Ellen was "too gay". But in a later interview with Southern Voice, a gay and lesbian publication from Atlanta, Ga, Bono attempts to defend the show (and herself). She states in the SoVo article that(in the VarietyArticle, pieced together from an earlier article published in the San Jose Mercury News) she was actually giving reasons as to why she thought that the ratings were going down; one of the possible reasons that she cited was that the show had alot of "gay-specific"jokes that heterosexual viewers might not be getting. Bono, who in recent years has been lauded for her work at GLAAD(the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) is in complete support of the show. In addition, the SoVo Article quotes Joan Garry, Executive Director of GLAAD, as saying, "This really points to exactly the kind of work that GLAAD does...the media can shape what people think about and here, the media is shaping what Chastity thinks about "Ellen", and she is devastated." Crazy, eh?


By Unt_ on Wednesday, April 1, 1998 - 08:26 pm:

AS for the inside Ellen jokes...wouldn't that be just like last season? Last season was chock full of even sketchier jokes. But yeah...I guess I'd never noticed that the show was almost too gay oriented. Maybe she'd tone it down then, maybe she just didn't know....
I hope we get a good enough little bit later... maybe enough to save it.


By Unt_ on Thursday, April 23, 1998 - 03:47 pm:

well...yeah...its official. Just one more freaking episode. Ick. Guess we'll all just open that door & step back in to smell the mothballs.


By Butch on Monday, May 4, 1998 - 05:17 pm:

Yeah, goodbye Ellen. Goodbye seeing an image of myself in popular culture (I realize she does not represent the entire gay community, but she was pretty close with me). You know, I'm such an obsessed fan that I taped every episode since the coming out. Hopefully that will tide me over. Sigh.

Still, I don't think I'm going to step back in with the mothballs.


By Shannon on Monday, May 4, 1998 - 07:18 pm:

Hey, not all of the closets are full of mothballs. My closet (here in the middle fo the Bible belt) is equipped with a wet bar, satellite dish, hot tub.... I figure, you know, I spend so much time there, I might as well make it comfy. >:)


By Unt_ on Thursday, May 7, 1998 - 11:57 pm:

What do you think of the chance that another network will take the show? I know I've heard some talking. If anyone does, it'll be Fox...they're known for their "trash." Awwww, I'm gonna miss her.
On a funny note...my bro & I we're watching some news channel. There was a shot of Ellen & Anne. My brother said "That was the girl from Volcano!! Isn't she str8?"
I said that...umm...no, they've been dating for over a year. He was in shock...I was just wondering how that information could not have gotten to him!! He also complained that Anne was too hot to be with Ellen & if she was gonna be a dyke she should be with someone hot like Julie Cypher. sheesh. what a pig...he kept saying dyke, dyke all day. I'm soooo scared he's gonna tell tell the 'rents I'm gay & they're gonna believe him (he dosn't know, they don't know...yipes!)


By Lee on Friday, May 8, 1998 - 08:58 pm:

The whole Ellen cancellation thing is kind of weird. Networks have let shows languish for much longer, Murphy Brown, Facts of Life & The Love Boat (original) are just a few which come to mind.

Unt, I don't know your family situation, so I don't know what to tell you. I happen to be str8, but in the last couple of years, 1 relative (m) & a good friend (f) have both come out of the closet as gay & a good friend as bi (m). I love these people because they're all good people who care about others & have been good to me. I wish the best for them. Drawing from their experience, bi friend had a rough time & still hasn't told his dad 'cause he fears he'll be disowned. Relative told his 70+, at least once a week Mass going mom & she suprised us all by saying God judges people by how they treat others, not whom they choose to love. It's hard to tell how people will react.

I wish you the best of luck. Have you looked into Parents & Families of Lesbians & Gays? I think the URL is http://www.pflag.org


By Anonymous on Thursday, May 14, 1998 - 03:36 pm:

http://www.salonmagazine.com/col/pagl/1998/05/nc_12pagl.html

camille is right...


By Jane on Saturday, July 11, 1998 - 11:57 pm:

Just a heads up for everyone-ABC is going to be showing 2 new eps from this last seaosn that they didn`t want to air at the time, on wednesday july15 and the next on the 22nd.


By Unt_ on Sunday, August 16, 1998 - 11:34 pm:

hey...on Lifetime...Ellen will be back on!!
Starting...shoot, today I think!!

Yay!!


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