CALLING ALL GUYS!!!!


NrrdGrrl! Discussion Forum: Lives and Confessions: CALLING ALL GUYS!!!!
By Dolphin43 on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 05:16 pm:

hey this site is for all of you GUYS even though i'm not a guys i figured u needed a site to call "home" and GIRLS don't be afraid to join in on the conversation

1st lets start on the basic things everybody type their name ,where they live and a little bit about themselves(no this is not the first day of kindergarden all over again)

thanks bye
dolphin43


By Gilmoure on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 05:48 pm:

Hi all!

I'm Gilmoure. I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. It's hot and sweaty here. I'm in college and have been for goin on 14 years. Can't figure out what I want to do when I grow up.

I've been online for about 5 years and this is the first place I've really found interesting as far as conversing and such. Mostly I just surf for info and suck it all in. Here, real conversations are going on. It's pretty cool. I've sent of a message to get registered here but in the meantime
where I can be reached. Thanks for warm welcome here!

G


By Gilmoure on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 05:51 pm:

Oops, the mail thing didn't work. Let's try again.

gilmoure@blackstar.eckerd.edu


By Dolphin43 on Tuesday, August 25, 1998 - 11:20 am:

good we have one responce!! more guys and gals please!!!!!!!!!


By Gilmoure on Tuesday, August 25, 1998 - 12:19 pm:

Does feminism apply only to women? A friend of mine (just finished her masters in Women Studies, starting Phd in Sociology) was telling me that feminism, working towards equal treatment of people without regard to race, gender, religeon, etc. applys to all people. Is she right or just idealistic? Thanks,

G


By Gilmoure on Tuesday, August 25, 1998 - 12:19 pm:

Does feminism apply only to women? A friend of mine (just finished her masters in Women Studies, starting Phd in Sociology) was telling me that feminism, working towards equal treatment of people without regard to race, gender, religeon, etc. applys to all people. Is she right or just idealistic? Thanks,

G


By Pull Apart Grrl on Wednesday, August 26, 1998 - 05:28 am:

Gilmoure,

I'd like to think she is right!! I mean how can you work for equality when you seperate the other sex from the process...it wouldn't work out...

But...sometimes it is idealistic which i think is mostly because of the media hype feminism gets...that sometimes it tends to brainwash some femmes into thinking that all guys are the wrong doers and do not deserve a chance to have their say even if they want to help..or agree.

I think society likes having us seperated and unequal...just so it can watch us squirm and fight. Stupid as its sounds..I find it to be very true. Its like playground antics all over the place...bombing here...bombing there...sex scandals here...sex scandals there...he said she said...women not treated equal...homosexual men fight against bashing....

nah nah...and on...its a vicious circle...
But shes right..feminism is not closed off to anyone because of their sex..or at least to me its not and i don't care what anyone says...but just in case, if i'm wrong how would the whole equality thing one when its only one sided?


what a ramble...gee..


Auf wiedersehen

Mandy


By Gilmoure on Wednesday, August 26, 1998 - 12:22 pm:

I think that the part about society liking to have opponents in everything (us against them) is a basic constant. Most people seem to live in a black and white either/or world. Only when people rise above thie duality of thought can social progress be made. It is hard to do this. This type of thinking applies to other areas too. being a loner, I thought it was because people didn't like me. It's taken me a while to figure out that being solitary isn't the same as being alone as well as not blaming others for this.

When one realizes that, for the most part, people are good, it becomes easier to see that their confining or patronizing attitudes stem from societal upbringing and not being evil or mean. The real trick is to get across the idea that their basic beliefs about men, women, and society may be wrong or misplaced. Getting someone to question their world views is very difficult, not to mention actually changing them.

It is much easier to work with people as they are growing up. Unfortainately, as evidenced by a lot of the posts here, the school system, at least in the US, is rather lacking in enlightened education. That means it's up to everyone in society to get the word out to young people that the old patterns of thought aren't necessarily right. It's nice to see that a lot of younger people are on these boards. Oh well enough rambling' for me. Need to get to work. The boss just poked her head in.

Ok lady, love ya', bye-bye

G


By Yfa on Wednesday, August 26, 1998 - 04:53 pm:

about the feminism thing- earlier in the summer i did this course, and feminism came up in discussion. Anyway it turned out that most of the guys would call themselves radical feminists....
luv,
yfa


By Gilmoure on Wednesday, August 26, 1998 - 10:58 pm:

What's the criteria for radical feminist? Would be interesting to see where I fit in. Turns out that no matter what grouping I go up aganst, there's always some weird part about me that throws things off. Hey, I'm a weird geek. Oh well.

G


By PullApartGrrl on Thursday, August 27, 1998 - 03:45 am:

I won't call myself a radical feminist because i believe a lot of womens opression and whatnot is mostly due to that patriacrhy type society we all or most live in, because i also have this quirky tendency to agree with other parts and i don't want to generalize my self or others and i haven't got time credits to waste trying to make myself clear because i stumble about my words like a drunkard in a backalley.

hmm...these are some of the forms or whatnot of feminism..

RADiCAL FEMiNiSTS: Radical feminists see the problem as patriarchy-a whole system of male power over women. Male rulers, male military, idustrial, polititcal and religious establishments, male trade unions and the male dominated left are all apart of the patriarchy...reinforcing-and inforced by-the power of individual men over women and children within their own families.

Women are one class, men are another!

Socilist feminists: See the problem as a combination of male domination and class exploitation-our fight is against both! Real liberation is impossiable as long as power and wealth in the world is monopolized by a tiny minority, and economic and social life is ruled by their lust for profits.

Liberal feminists: The problem is simply one of predjudice-the system need to be corrected not over turned. what we need is more equal rights lesgislation, more posetive role models to give girls confidence.


By Gilmoure on Sunday, August 30, 1998 - 09:17 pm:

Here's my email for whoever cares:

gilmoure@blackstar.eckerd.edu


G


By Dolphin43 on Friday, September 4, 1998 - 06:49 pm:

i don't understand a thing u people are saying but as long as you are having fun talk about it thats GREAT!!!!
well don't be afaid to start a new coversation!!!

thanks
Dolphin


By Rhiannon on Sunday, September 6, 1998 - 03:04 pm:

I think feminism has turned into a load of bull (comin' from a grrl)!!!!!


By MARSHA on Tuesday, September 22, 1998 - 07:50 pm:

Then why are you on this site? (coming from a girl)


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