Just wanna talk about stuff 2


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By Rhiannon on Sunday, September 6, 1998 - 03:18 pm:

I thought I'd just carry on from the first one seeing that it doesn't seem to work anymore!!!!!


By Ranma on Monday, September 7, 1998 - 12:45 am:

what makes you think this one will?


By Anonymous on Monday, September 7, 1998 - 11:46 am:

What do you want to talk about?????


By Anonymous on Monday, September 7, 1998 - 11:48 am:

Does anyone ever get sick of all these news shows????????


By Anonymous on Monday, September 7, 1998 - 01:37 pm:

You people sound like your bored. Try going here to the CEA: http://www.amused.com/


By Chocolate on Tuesday, September 8, 1998 - 04:17 pm:

I'm in love!


By Rhiannon on Wednesday, September 9, 1998 - 04:34 pm:

What do you mean by news shows????
I AM NEVER IN LOVE GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!
I hate it when (not aimed at you chocolate) girls complain all the time about their boyfriends about silly little things like "He keeps talking to other girl" e.t.c, when you know they're doing it to show off. I don't blame them, I'd do the same, if I ever got a boyfriend that is.


By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 9, 1998 - 11:38 pm:

wah wah wah...


By Artemis on Friday, September 11, 1998 - 10:42 pm:



I mean like ABC News, Dateline, 20/20 and so ooonnnnnnnnnnnnn. There's too many of them and they all talk about the same thing, like for example the President's sex affair. Gag me, how many times have I heard that on news shows. I think since many people are fogeting how to be creative they just make another news show. Some shows are really really bad they don't respect people's privacy at all. Some news shows have reports on things we already know and things that are useless to our lives. Do You think i'm stupid to think diet pills are good for me? If its too good to be true it probally isn't. News should stay at news, news shouldn't be entertainment. And alll those talk shows tooo, not that their all bad, but there's tooo many of them. What's happening to TV?????? Is it becoming a world of nosey news shows and talk shows????? Where's the creaivity in shows anymore and what's up with some actors and actresses acting soooooo fake on sitcoms???? And there are sooo many law and docter shows.


WHERE'S ALL THE CREATIVETY IN TV NOW DAYS???????????????????????????????????????
opinionated Artemis,


By Shampoo on Saturday, September 12, 1998 - 05:55 pm:

like those sitcoms where it's supposed to be funny when someone cracks a joke, but the only people laughing are the ones in the laugh track? that's why i love older shows better then these knew ones. full house made me SICK! where's the comedy in "learning your lesson" and "family togetherness?" i can pinpoint the exact time when the music would come on, and everyone would be like "i love you, dad! GROUP HUG!!"

about the presidents affair: what's the big deal? so he cheated on his wife. so has like, 75% of the men in your/my country! (being from canada, i could care less what he does. but it's the principle of the thing). the only mistake he made was getting cought. last time i heard, you guys had a budget surplus or something. and your economy is really strong. why should it matter what he did? he got a blow job from an intern. BIG DEAL!! his role in life is "president" it's not "god" or anything! he's human just like the rest of us, he's allowed to make mistakes. it's not up to us to get mad and punish him for it, the matter is between bill clinton, his wife, daughter and that lewinsky girl. it's none of our business.

and the only thing 20/20 and those news shows that "catch" scammers do is make me paranoid to the rest of the worl. i want to know what happened in my city today, or what is going on in the rest of the world that matters. big crisis in russia: this is something i want to know about. 2 guys pulling scams at a garage: i don't care.

i also think celebrities need their privacy. i'm not that oppinionated on that one, though, because the only reason they're celebrities is because we all want to see them. that's what being famous means. but i don't care if so and so bought a prostitute, all i care about is if he can act and when can i see his movie!


By Endora on Saturday, September 12, 1998 - 10:09 pm:

My opinion on the Starr report could best be summed up by the quote from Uma Thurman's character in Pulp Fiction:

"That was a little bit more information than I needed to know"

I know hindsight is always 20/20, I just wish Clinton had said he wouldn't answer either way because it didn't really have anything to do w/the issue at hand. Yeah, his behavior's sleazy, but I think a lot of people have skeletons in the closet too. As Dennis Miller put it a few year back, "when did the entire country become Gladys Kravitz [the nosy neighbor on Bewitched]?


By Rhiannon on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 11:41 am:

I don't realy give a shit about Clintons personal life (especially coming from London)If my dad had an affair, he wouldn't lose his job over, only if it effected is work, which, in Clintons case, it hasn't. As long as he runs the place properly, which he is doing very well, he's good friends with many world leader, hence keeping the world at peace. Sure he's made mistakes, but we're all human, and he's taken the rap for them and made sure that no-one else does. Basically he's a bloody good president!!!!!


By Artemis on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 02:47 pm:

I agree with shampoo about the president. He's not perfect and he isn't god either. Everybody makes mistakes. His personal life and his job are two seperate things. Just because he had an affair doesn't mean he's going to stop being a good president. I think we americans should just back off. We should feel sorry for him. Here he has helped America to become a strong country and many people want to empeach him. Did he make the country weak? NO. Did he not do enough for America? NO. Then why empeach him? Just because he had an affair? That's just bogus. I think the only real reason presidents should be empeached is if they don't really do anything good for America.


By Wominist on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 03:34 pm:

C'mon guys!!

When you accept the position of President you are expected to have dignity in your personal and political life. Feel sorry for him?!!! If any of you can say that you still respect Bill Clinton as a person or as a President I think that's ridiculous.

Bill Clinton *was* doing a good job. Until he embarassed himself, his family, his cabinet and his country.

What's disgusting is that people want to put the moral issue aside. 'Who cares if the President was getting blow jobs from an intern in the White House' Do we have any moral scruples left? Clinton, a married man who speaks of family values and has the eyes of many nations on him, SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE WHAT HE DID.

But let's say your a bit of a cynic and you think that since half the free world is made up of cheating liars why not let the President join in the fun.

Morals aside. Politically the President has cost the American dollar to falter and has lost the trust of his cabinet.

"I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." A bold face lie. And you respect this man?! Feel sorry for him?! Trust him when he says he didn't sexually harass any other women?! Give me a break. Now there's an investigation into whether Clinton used illegal money for his campaign. Are you going to believe him when he says "I want to tell you something, I did not use illegal money for my campaign." He has lost all credibility, something I might add, every person and especially every president should have.

I'm all for forgiveness. But I believe in a few things called honesty, integrity and trust. None of which Bill has. He should resign.



By Artemis on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 05:22 pm:

I'm not saying it was OK what he did, but that we should forgive him.


By Artemis on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 05:26 pm:

What disgusts me is that I heard that Starr asked a romance writer to write the report and my brother's friend said it was in his newspaper and it was 40 PAGES LONG!!!!!!!!


By Endora on Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 08:39 pm:

Womanist,

Look at some of the President's chief critics who were attacking him for the Lewinski thing--it turns out one fathered a kid outside of marriage & another had an affair w/a married man while she was single. I agree that what Clinton did was sleazy & stupid, but there's an unprecedented level of scrutiny of public figures lives now.

If the Willey/Jones accusations turn out to be true, that would be a different story because that would be sexual harassment, which is against the law. What happened seems to be more of two confused people using each other in a consensual relationship. If I feel sorry for anyone in this whole thing, it's Chelsea.


By FQ on Thursday, September 17, 1998 - 06:05 pm:

I live in the UK and even the newspapers here are all about Clinton.... I mean - he isn't even our president!


By Shampoo on Friday, September 18, 1998 - 01:18 am:

the poor kid will always be known as "the daughter of that ex-president who did this and this and this with some intern".

tell me, what did you all ask for when you elected him president? someone who would run your country, or someone who would not have an affair and "embarass" your country (which, by the way, didn't happen. being canadian, i am not laughing at the US for what clinton did. in fact, i could care less.) you hired him to take care of you and your economy and stuff, which is what he did and he did a darn good job of it. i don't know what a president has to do to become president, but if he had to take an oath or something, i doubt it would be "i vow never ever to get a blow job from an intern".

the only thing he really did wrong was lie about it. he did that i think to protect himself and to protect his family. now poor chelsea had to find out exactly what her father did. did she really need to know every explicit detail? did *we* need to know? NO!! who cares about clinton and cigars and penises? the report could have been a lot shorter if starr summed it up in "affair". listing everything was *NOT* necessary and probably did more harm then good!! c'mon people, he had an affair. anyone who has had an affair knows it is anything but "morally clean". an affair is an affair, it means the same thing then if you make a 40 page report about every little detail.

you men out there: if you were the president and you had had an affair with this intern and done all this stuff and (obviously) didn't want your wife or teenage daughter to find out, would you admit it freely in front of billions of people? i wouldn't! i would've lied my ass off if it meant a small chance that my daughter wouldn't have to see her father stripped of all his dignity and pride and made to look like a total sex crazed pervert. i am 16 and i would shrivel up and die if i had to know in explicit detail exactly what my parents do all the time. i would never be able to look at them the same.

i find it hard to believe that this kenneth starr is mr clean himself. i'll bet he loves hearing about the presidents sex life! if anyone is the sicko, it's him. he turned a political investigation into a tabloid newspaper "read page 17 for all the juicy information on the presidents *secret* sex life!". he is no better then a cheesy romance novel writer himself. that report was not "professional" or "for the good of the country", it was meant to shame clinton and make it so that he can never go anyplace again without people remembering those words. even if he's still president, kenneth starr's words will always be remembered. that kind of crap doesn't belong in political investigations, it belongs on hard copy!!

if i were in clintons situation, i would have lied too. and don't tell me none of you wouldn't have. no one in their right mind would go up in front of billions of people and admit to them, your WIFE and your DAUGHTER that "yes, i got several blow jobs from that chick, and maaaaaaaan... they were better then any sex with hilary would've been, woo haa!!" i doubt it.


By Endora on Sunday, September 20, 1998 - 06:07 pm:

I think Shampoo has some good points. Let's face it, politicians lie. In a better world, they wouldn't, but that's the way things are in this world. Remember Bush & "read my lips, no new taxes"?

I voted for Clinton in 92. Yeah, I figured he was a weasel & we already knew about the Gennifer Flowers thing, but Bush was denying there EVEN WAS a recession Meanwhile my friends & I were all having trouble getting decent jobs. To answer the proverbial question, we're all doing better under Clinton's administration than during Bush's.

People can't even count on their clergypeople these days, as we hear about sexual abuse of children, misuse of funds, etc. committed by clergypeople of all faiths. This isn't to say that all clergypeople do this, I'm just using this as an example that we should save our outrage for the actions that deserve it. The woman was of age & consenting, so it's between the two of them & their families, etc.

As for the argument that Clinton's actions on Lewisnky's behalf during her job search sends girls & young women the wrong message, let's ask ourselves how she got the internship in the first place? One of her parents had a friend who donated the big bucks & got her in. Is sleeping one's way to the top worse than cronyism/neoptism? Hey, at least sleeping one's way to the top doesn't discriminate against people w/out family connections (heavy sarcasm here, I'm not serious). Seriously, if parents are concerned about this, they should point out that using sex to advance professionally is going to backfire because people will question the person's qualifications.

I'm registered as an Independent & vote for whomever I think will do the best job. I've voted for Democrats, Republicans, Socialists & Libertarians. However, I do find it rather amusing to watch all of these outraged Republicans calling for investigations into leaks when it came out that some of them have had affairs. To mix metaphors, when you open a can of worms to send in your neighbor's house, a few might find their way into your glass house.


By Rhiannon on Monday, September 21, 1998 - 03:12 pm:

The vows that a president must take do not include, 'I must decline from acting human.' The Americans are just worried about America getting a sleezy reputation. They won't, only the president will and that doesn't matter as long as he keeps up his reputation for being a good and strong politition, not a miracle man.


By Anonymous on Friday, September 25, 1998 - 11:14 pm:

When Monica was asked if she had anything else to say after her testominy. She said that she was never told to lie, that she was never promised a job, and that she hated Linda Tripp.So it's not like he made her lie or anything. He just pretty much had an affair.


By Endora on Thursday, October 8, 1998 - 11:47 pm:

Okay, apologies in advance for such a U.S.centric post & my rantings, but I just watched the 11:00 news & saw my congressman go on about how evil Clinton is (during the impeachment inquiry).

Yeah bozo boy was going on, yet in his district, we lost a conveniently located ATM (near shops) & transportation, well, to put it bluntly, sucks. It's in a large metro area, so cars are often inconvenient. This transportation dilemma's why I get home around 10 on class nights (after getting up at 6 am to go to work). My friends & I all have serious student loan debt, as grants, etc. were seriously cut during the Reagan-Bush years. Do they worry about any of that? As John Belushi used to say, BUT NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, they'd rather spend their time on what Clinton did w/a CONSENTING intern!!!!!!! I could see it if it were Paula Jones or Kathleen Willey, but this is the one case where we know for sure the woman said yes!!!

Anyway, I got so irate, I e-mailed my congressman. If anyone else wants to do the same, here are the links to both the House & Senate:

Representatives

Senators

Here's what I wrote:

As a registered independent who has voted for people of various parties, including you, let me tell you that your sound bite during the impeachment inquiry vote helped me resolve some indecision. I don't think Bill Clinton is our most moral president (an understatement), but impeachment's a bit harsh. I was thinking about staying home on Election Day altogether out of disgust w/both parties, but the excesses of the Republican party have made my decision for me. I will vote a straight party line for the first time ever. And it will be Democrat just to show my disgust my the Republican Party's wallow in the gutter.

Sure I work full-time & have a Tuesday evening class, which means I don't get home until 10:15 pm, but I'm willing to get up at the crack of dawn & go to the polls first thing in the morning to tell your party it's gone too far. Many thanks for the clarification!

If you're looking for something productive to do, may I suggest something closer to home? Your former campaign headquarters used to be a bank w/an ATM. It was quite convenient for those of us in the neighborhood, as there are various shops, etc. nearby. It sits vacant, creating inconvenience for residents & one would imagine, a loss of business for the local merchants. Why don't you do something useful & get another bank in that spot instead of spouting empty, pompous, self-serving rhetoric?


By STAR on Wednesday, October 14, 1998 - 11:44 am:

Hey is anyone here from Ireland?


By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 14, 1998 - 04:38 pm:

Can anyone explain to me how the heel the hell you can load pictures onto these things without using all these high-tech things that my 'rents can't afford ase? (Sorry to change the subject!)


By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 14, 1998 - 04:39 pm:

Can anyone explain to me how the hell you can load pictures onto these things without using all these high-tech things that my 'rents can't afford ase? (Sorry to change the subject!)


By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 14, 1998 - 04:39 pm:

Can anyone explain to me how the hell you can load pictures onto these things without using all these high-tech things that my 'rents can't afford please? (Sorry to change the subject!)


By Rhiannon on Thursday, October 22, 1998 - 03:51 pm:

Sorry about that!


By Endora on Friday, October 23, 1998 - 12:00 am:

Rhiannon,

Are you looking to load regular photos into a pc or download photos from the internet? By these things, do you mean pcs in general or this website? Sorry if any of the info below is too basic, but I wasn't sure which you meant.

If you want to scan pictures into a file, see if there's a scanner at your school. If not, I think commercial copying services (Kinkos's here in the US) will do it or let you do it. I'm not sure how much it costs.

If you want to save a photo or other graphic image from the internet into a file, right click the mouse (click on the right upper part of the mouse). That should give you a "save image choice". You either clik or double click on that and it will prompt you to save it.

Below is a link which sort of describes it. You can also enter various computer terms in the search box and get a brief explanation + links to other terms.

Webopedia Link


By Endora on Friday, October 23, 1998 - 12:03 am:

PS. Check out the formatting link on this very page (the frame on the left) under documentation. It has a section on images & clip art.


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