I got into a discussion on this one. Do men or women have more beautiful bodies? Why, or why not?
I always thought women had more of a tendency to be beautiful. I mean, if you randomly picked 100 women and randomly picked 100 men, I think there would be more good-looking girls than good-looking guys. I'm not a lesbian either.
Women - definately. Our bodies are soft and tender and better shaped - no actually, I've changed my mind. Doesn't it depend on the persons figure? But.... I dont know! I've never thought of it before.
Deanna, though "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder," cause hey, some people like skinny, some fat, some tall, some short, etc, etc. I'd have to say a Woman's Bod is more "Beautiful!!" by far. :)) But why?...Hmmm...well lets see...Finer body curves, softer flowing hair, smoother cheek bones, richer smiles, rounder eyes, fuller eyebrows, nicer legs, giggly-er voices...opps!!...how did that one get in there?!? hehe!! In fact of the two beings, Man & Woman which God created in his own image...the Woman was meant to be "More Beautiful by Design!!" Course we all should know by now, that it's also very important to improve one's knowledge / intelligences, to seek to increase one's capacity to Love others, and to work beyond our own selfishness.
This will sound dumb, but I think anyone who has a healthy body, nice eyes, and smiles a lot is beautiful. I don't think gender should be an issue. At least it isn't for me.
Blue Eyes,
Wominist, I must admit that I don't have an exact quote from the Bible, but have extracted the idea from descriptives found in Song of Solomon (A poem by King Solomon) chapter 7...where King Solomon decribes the Physical Beauty of one of his wifes that he loved dearly. [Song 7:1-13, 1: How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
Blue-Eyes,
P.S. I am not a lesbian either!!
When I was studying art 3 years ago, one of the topics I was set was the human body in the media of paintings and sculptures. As part of this project I studied the way in which the male and female body are portrayed. To generalise totally as a lot of art is designed to break the mould, the male body was commonly used as a symbol of strength and power - think your statues of roman emperors, and the female body symbolises beauty serenity and tempation - think Dalí's pictures of his wife. Society is very influenced by art, and this has contributed to the perception that the female body is the more beautiful, personally I agree and found the female body much more intersting to draw, but maybe I only think that because it is what I have been told to think.
I think the most beautiful bodies are the ones that do not look one sex or the other. Don't you like fine features in a guy or though ones in a girl? I think that's very very beatiful.
Akane, it's hard to have Ranma as a boyfriend, when someone is always splashin' him with "Cold Water!!"...opps!! *Looking down at the bucket in his hands*..."Now, where did this cold bucket of water come from?" *Smiles mischievously* :))
I don’t Know, when I was in the U.S. Army stationed in Deagu (South Korea’s 3rd largest city) for a year I saw many Gals from Little Ones to College Women age who held their Gal friend’s hand in Public (it was very common). It only meant that they were “Best of Friends,” and nobody thought differently about it. Maybe it’s just Americans (United States) who “Freak-Out” at the sight of the same gender holding each others hand. Course the Korean Guys never held hands, but they had their arms wrapped around their friend’s shoulder in Public. Does anyone know how the “Heck” we got this way?
Good old wax crayons, with a bit of water colour to resist, quick sketchy and covers my complete lack of talent. Stly? Think Henry Matise.
Good old wax crayons, with a bit of water colour to resist, quick sketchy and covers my complete lack of talent. Style? Think Henry Matise.
oops, sorry
"akane tendo", maybe it's time to snap back into reality? you're not even close to being an animated caracter, you are a real person, remember?
I think both mens & women's bodies are aesthetically beautiful. Personally, there's really something about men's facial structure, etc. that really appeal to me.
i know that, but it's not the first time she did that, but just ignore what i said, i was having a bad day and felt like being a bitch to someone. i'd like to see a post from her that would actually tell me something about *her*, tho.
oh, and back on topic, i don't think that you can say "men have a more beautiful body" or "women have a more beautiful body", because our bodies are so different and beautiful in their own way. it's like saying "what's prettier, this flower or my ring?".
Shampoo, though you are correct in pointing out that both genders have "Beautiful Bods!" I do believe this topic, "Which Gender Has A More Beautiful Body?" was created as a discussion area for people to give their opinion. Afterall, isn't human to have a preference on the subject?...so with that in mind Shampoo, which one would you choose between the two?
Caileen, wax crayons huh? Hmmm...I can image how you could create some very Beautiful Art with them! hehe!! Guess I should try then again sometime myself. Is it "Henri Matisse" the French painter you meant by saying "Henry Matise?" Whose Art is characterized by its bold and decorative use of vivid Fauvist color and lush, sinuous contours.(Lexicon Universal Encyclopedia pg. 229) It sounds like a Kool Style, "Keep working at it!" :))
Shampoo, opps!! This sentence "Afterall, isn't human to have a preference on the subject?" should be, "Afterall, isn't it human to have a preference on the subject?" Hey!!, it was early in the morning...Sorr-we!
Well, to tell the truth, I personally think that the female body is more beautiful, but given the choice between the two, I would still choose the one I've got.
oh yeah, and don't mind akane, she's just out of sorts over a bit of soba, and that whole match between her and shampoo thing.
I find womens bodies far more asthetically pleasing to look at. I have absolutely no problems gazing at nude paintings of curvy women (Renoir, Reubins, Dali even Lucian Freud) Theres just something far simpler about the female form. Its less messy without the dangly bits (sorry, don't mean to be crude)
mm... i dunno really. there's something about a well built nicely tanned man in silver sunglasses that sends me swooning. you know, a nice strong guy with abs and pecs and biceps and a pair of strong legs... mm mmm!! i don't mind looking at paintings of round women, i do think the female form is beautiful and stuff, nice and curvey and shapely and all, plus "simpler" without the um... "dangly parts" as kate said.
I agree with you Kate. Of course the female body is more beautiful!!!
Hmmm. As a former art student, I've drawn a fair amount of both genders. There is something about a well defined shoulder and upper arm. Since muscle definition is more pronounced in men, I tend to notice that, though the actress in terminator was really nice looking in T2, what with her working out. For the overall effect, I do prefer women. There doesn't seem to be any part of a women that isn't beautiful. This from a guy who once spent 3 hours drawing a lady's chin.
Hmmm. As a former art student, I've drawn a fair amount of both genders. There is something about a well defined shoulder and upper arm. Since muscle definition is more pronounced in men, I tend to notice that, though the actress in terminator was really nice looking in T2, what with her working out. For the overall effect, I do prefer women. There doesn't seem to be any part of a women that isn't beautiful. This from a guy who once spent 3 hours drawing a lady's chin.
if i could i disect people for the parts that i like. i can't decide which is better because ive a partial feeling for both. hmm..maybe i'll try..excuse to foolish madchen ways of mine...
What a stupid question. Its sad to see people so superficial.
I am still studying art and I constantly drag my fiance to art galleries all over the state and both of us seem to oggle more at the female figures than the males.
Anonymous: I don't think it's superficial to talk about appearance. It's only superficial if looks are all you care about in a person.
I think what Ultraviolet was sayin in the beginning of the message board is almost kinda of true about how that if u had 100 guys and a 100 girls that there would be more better looking girls then guys.But the only reason for that is because girls spend so much time grooming themselves and doin stuff with themselves.They also have makeup which does alot for girls looks.So u can't compare it.If a girl just let herself go....u know just do what a guy does the basic stuff that i think it would be like equal.
i dunno, i think girls have better bodies, coz they are just like soft and smoof everywhere =)
heh oh yeah i think guys that gawk at lesbians are just jealous. and bi girls know where its at.
By Ultraviolet on Thursday, July 30, 1998 - 02:02 am:
By I dont know on Thursday, July 30, 1998 - 09:37 pm:
P.S. I am not a lesbian either!
By BlueEyes on Friday, July 31, 1998 - 01:03 am:
P.S. Since I'm a Guy, I'll bypass the statement "I'm not a lesbian either!" :) By the way, why do Gals think other Gals will call them a Lesbian because they think a Woman's Bod is more Beautiful? And I thought only Guys had communication problems with this sort of thing!
By Laurel on Friday, July 31, 1998 - 09:51 am:
By Wominist on Friday, July 31, 1998 - 12:13 pm:
Do you have a Bible quote for the women were meant to be more beautiful by design thing?
I've always been a sucker for the male body, it has curves to-a man's back is more shapely than a womans. I think men have more of a solidity in their bodies and I like that. To look at a Greek sculpting of a young male body, it is easy to see the beauty in it.
By BlueEyes on Friday, July 31, 1998 - 03:44 pm:
2: Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
3: Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
4: Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bath-rabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.
5: Thine head upon thee is like Carmel, and the hair of thine head like purple; the king is held in the galleries.
6: How fair and how pleasant art thou, O love, for delights!
7: This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.
8: I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples;
9: And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
10: I am my beloved's, and his desire is toward me.
11: Come, my beloved, let us go forth into the field; let us lodge in the villages.
12: Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine flourish, whether the tender grape appear, and the pomegranates bud forth: there will I give thee my loves.
13: The mandrakes give a smell, and at our gates are all manner of pleasant fruits, new and old, which I have laid up for thee, O my beloved.]
Tis my opinion that "a Woman's Bod is more Beautiful 'n' therefore designed that way!" having read that verse and others within the Bible...course "Physical Beauty" fazes away in time like a Rose in blossom disappears. It's far better to focus on what's in one's Heart!! That is where True Beauty lies. I should have been more clear...Sorr-we...but thanks for your question!! :))
By I dont know on Saturday, August 1, 1998 - 03:01 pm:
This whole lesbian thing... yeah - I agree with that... but it's just that sometimes society isn't willing to accept it.
For example, I was crossing the street with my friend and I grabbed a hold of her arm to run only to have these guys shout "LESBIANS" at us! What was that all about? I mean, how pathetic.... Who gives them the right to hassle ANYONE? Surely, its up to the person if they want to be a lesbian and has nothing to do with anyone else?
By I dont know on Saturday, August 1, 1998 - 03:03 pm:
HAHAHAHA! :-)
By Caileen on Saturday, August 1, 1998 - 04:23 pm:
On a slightly different note, I think the design of the male body is more practical, imagine a life with out having to tiringly search for a confortable underwire. (has anyone actually achieved this yet?)
Caileen
By AKANE TENDO on Sunday, August 2, 1998 - 07:58 pm:
And tell me! I didn't even have the chance to choose my boyfriend (i.e. Ranma)
By BlueEyes on Monday, August 3, 1998 - 09:28 am:
P.S. Akane maybe you should find a boyfriend who doesn't change genders everytime it Rains? (Ranma 1/2 is a pretty good Anime OVA...Soor-we, but I couldn't stop myself from having some giggles with this one! hehe!!)
By BlueEyes on Monday, August 3, 1998 - 10:20 am:
Caileen, I also enjoy drawing the female bod…I like using pencil, color pencils, & markers, with an “Anime Style” (Big-Eyes hehe!!) theme when I sit down to draw. What “Style” & materials do you like to use when you draw?
*HugZ*
David
By Caileen on Saturday, August 15, 1998 - 06:00 pm:
I got bored of the ‘people can't even touch each other without being after a shagging, ages ago. I think folks are becomeing a lot more confortable with seeing a couple of girls wlk down the road arm in arm with out needing to asume anything.
By Caileen on Saturday, August 15, 1998 - 06:01 pm:
I got bored of the ‘people can't even touch each other without being after a shagging, ages ago. I think folks are becomeing a lot more confortable with seeing a couple of girls walk down the road arm in arm with out needing to asume anything.
By Caileen on Saturday, August 15, 1998 - 06:03 pm:
By Shampoo on Sunday, August 16, 1998 - 02:46 am:
By Endora on Sunday, August 16, 1998 - 04:02 pm:
Part of the whole aesthetic preference thing may be influenced by social conditioning. From art to films to advertising, women's bodies tend to be the focus more than men's. Both men & women see more of women's bodies in these mediums than they do of men's.
Shampoo,
I'm not familiar w/anime, so maybe I'm missing something. However, it seems to me that Akane Tendo is just having fun w/the name, etc. Why do you feel it necessary to suggest Akane to snap back into reality?
I could have thrown in something like, "I much prefer immortal men to mortals, but my daughter Samantha insists on loving that silly mortal Darwood!" That wouldn't mean that I really think I'm the character Endora, but merely that I was just having fun w/the name, etc.
By Shampoo on Sunday, August 16, 1998 - 07:10 pm:
By Shampoo on Sunday, August 16, 1998 - 07:12 pm:
By BlueEyes on Monday, August 17, 1998 - 05:36 am:
Plus I think our bodies (Male 'n' Female) are more alike than different, so comparing the beauty of a flower to that of a ring would be too far apart, but what I think you mean is "what's prettier, this Rose or this Violet?" Hope you don't mind me pointing that out to you.
*HugZ*
By BlueEyes on Monday, August 17, 1998 - 05:53 am:
Also Caileen I'm with you, I don't see a problem with "Gals holding hands with their Gal Friends" either...in fact I think it looks Cute. :) People need to start caring more about one another, tis the only way for us to bond together and to build a better Future for everyone.
By BlueEyes on Monday, August 17, 1998 - 12:23 pm:
By Ranma on Monday, August 17, 1998 - 10:27 pm:
By Ranma on Monday, August 17, 1998 - 10:29 pm:
By Kate on Tuesday, August 18, 1998 - 12:50 pm:
I find that mens bodies are attractive, but only after I've got to know the man inside! In fact I used to find male genitals revolting. I still wouldn't want to look at the "lunchbox" of a man I was not sexually involved with. I fall in love with male characters and female bodies.
But I do think that men should be nice and hairy! It accentuates the difference between me and my partner!
And Im not even going to answer the lesbian question........
By Shampoo on Wednesday, August 19, 1998 - 02:19 am:
i dunno... i can't choose! i'm glad i have the body i do i wouldn't want to be a man, but there's just something about a mans body (a nice one) that's just... well it's nice.
but honestly i'd have to say a womens body is more "beautiful".
By Erin on Wednesday, August 19, 1998 - 07:21 pm:
A woman's body is a work of art. Although I dont find men's "dangly parts" revolting as you do, I do think that they are VERY funny looking. Its hard to control my laughter when I see them! Dont you think?
By Gilmoure on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 12:16 am:
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ps: Do I have to answer the lesbian question?
By Gilmoure on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 12:17 am:
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ps: Do I have to answer the lesbian question?
By PullApartGrrl on Monday, August 24, 1998 - 01:53 am:
the way a guys face looks strong and protective..the way a grrls lips look they could speak secrets...a guys strong hands that seems like that could pick up every broken piece youve encountered...The smell that seems to linger on women..whether its a nice pleasent smell or that of mouldy paper...it makes you realize the reality of people(?)...strong shoulders in guys make me want to break them down and see what they are like inside...the curves of grrls hips are lusciously deep and hypnotizing....
well...i could go on forever..but i don't think i'd ever be able to say that one is more appealing than the other...i prefer both...
By Anonymous on Thursday, September 3, 1998 - 02:41 am:
Vijay
vijay.a.kher@vanderbilt.edu
By Olewishka on Thursday, September 3, 1998 - 03:06 am:
Maybe he does because he's a pervert.
But I am always amazed at the grace and elegance of females portrayed in art.
Rubenesque and renaissance art portrays curvacious, healthy figures of women...large rumps and hips, elongated backs and sensual bends and curves. I find the female figure an amazing art peice.
I often have my fiance take Polaroid of me in poses so I can later sculpt or paint self portraits. I find my figure more maleable and easily transformed.
Not to say i don't do anything of my fiance!
The most beautiful of figures is an intertwined male and female.
By Laurel on Wednesday, September 16, 1998 - 08:37 pm:
By Meg on Thursday, September 24, 1998 - 07:36 pm:
*MeG*
By Dan. on Sunday, October 11, 1998 - 02:12 pm:
i love girls. yes i do. i'll admit to that. girls kick ass. and a lot of girls are good looking.
im not superficial but a lot of girls are cute, its that i wont want to approach them, and like 1 in 500 will be a really nasty deformed makes you wanna puke sorta person. other than that i'd touch em. like a hug or something. i have my own standards, i have to get to know someone by their actions first and how they talk and think. i dont know, all the cool/nice/smart girls i've met were hot so i guess i'm lucky? =) you know your typical aryan blue eyes blond hair really cute or hot and makes you wanna cream yourself kinda girl, whos worth being with because shes not a fucking ditz. i hate ditzy bitches. i hate horny ones too. especially horny german girls. wait, i've gone out with like a lot of horny german girls. but they werent skanky. hmm, thats why they never took prozac when i was with em. *wink*
By Dan. on Sunday, October 11, 1998 - 02:14 pm:
thats all..