Courtney Love


NrrdGrrl! Discussion Forum: Music, Lit, and Pop Culture: Music-- who do you love?: Courtney Love
By Steph on Monday, November 24, 1997 - 07:28 pm:

How does everyone here feel about Courtney Love? I personally love her but I also know a LOT of people who despise her.

Opinions anyone??


By Amelia Wilson (Admin) on Tuesday, November 25, 1997 - 01:11 pm:

Yeah, I know a lot of Courtney bashers too. I guess I'd have to say I admire her chutzpah. I thought she was really good in People Vs. Larry Flynt, and I liked "Live Through This".

I'm really curious to see what Hole's next album will be like-- whether she goes "mainstream" or not.


By Steph on Tuesday, November 25, 1997 - 06:11 pm:

Yeah, I can't wait for that. I loved People Vs. Larry Flynt. Both Hole's albums were good (at least, I think so, some people don't)

One more thing...can you define 'chutzpah'?


By Courtneywannabe on Wednesday, November 26, 1997 - 11:16 am:

I have always liked Courtney, and her music has


passion and aggression. Although, i can at the


same time understand why some people do not


like her. She was really good in 'Larry Flynt'


and it was an impressive preformance to watch.



By Joie on Wednesday, December 10, 1997 - 02:43 pm:

i personaly like Love a lot, but i have heard a lot of people, that used to think that she was the coolest, start to complain about her now that she has "cleaned-up" and is trying to look all algelic. i think, good for her that she has finaly get the hint that drugs can kill you.


By Shimmy on Thursday, January 8, 1998 - 09:29 pm:

i'm glad some other people are into hole, i feel so alone on that sometimes :) obviously, courtney is amazing, completely inspiring to me. i'd like to say that i loved her acting too, but i'm going through this bored with movies phase, so it's just me.


By Kelly Marie on Monday, February 2, 1998 - 07:01 pm:

I have been into Hole since I was about fourteen years old. Courtney Love's music and words helped to both shape and give a real voice to my life as a teenage girl...That was 1991, and now, as a 21 year old young woman,
I actually appreciate Courtney's influence and artistry more and more. Her words (in the press & in various articles) as well as her lyrics echoed a lot of my own thoughts and ideas regarding the role(s) of women in the world, what it really means to be beautiful, how to stand up for yourself in male-dominated arenas, etc. Her music was driven, hash, powerful, and served to tear apart mainstream society's many incorrect notions of what a "women" or "girl" should be.
I loved that...I also love the transition she's made. Everyone must grow- "mainstream" should not be the issue...the important thing is to be able to move your own life in the needed direction. As long as she is true to herself and her chosen art, it shouldn't matter if she's traded her antique tea dresses in for Versace. People naturally evolve-it's a part of living. Her so-called "new, clean image" is nothing to criticize... neither are her Hollywood ventures- she should've gotten at least an Oscar nod for her work in Larry Flynt (one of my favorite movies).
I truely adore Courtney Love- her music, her movies, her personal style, her ideas. My friends dislike her, I take flack at times for liking her work...but, to me, she is a truely great woman.


By Locoroja on Tuesday, February 10, 1998 - 02:26 am:

ok-i'll have to be the negitive one here. i don't like
courtney love. I think she is full of it. she milked the
publisity after kurt cobain's death. i went to a hole
show in 1993 or 94, i don't remember exactly, because
i didn't really have an opinion of her yet. this was right after
kurt cobain's death and during the show she brought her
young child on stage and the crowd went nuts. and then
she told them all that they were sick and the kid went back stage.
what kind of reaction was she expecting by bringing
her kid out? of course the crowd was going to react.
i just felt like it was all very hypocritical. and her
album title, "live through this"? is that just asking for
sympathy? i find it very pathetic. i don't mean to put
down anyones musical tastes, this is just my opinion.


By Lee on Tuesday, February 10, 1998 - 06:15 am:

Actually, the album title was in place before Kurt Cobain's death. At the time, the media were remarking on the weird coincidence of it.


By Jessica F. on Sunday, February 15, 1998 - 02:01 pm:

Has anyone seen photographer Herb Ritts' portrait of Love displaying the scars under her breasts (from shooting up)? This is a complex portrait that says a lot about Love as a person and public figure. How does the symbolism of her breasts work with the gruesome scars? Love as mother v. Love as (recovering) addict. It shows both in counterpoint to the other. What does displaying the scars make you think about her? Do you have more respect or less?


By Anonymous on Tuesday, March 17, 1998 - 12:42 pm:

iI don't know courtney so I can't respect her.i can relate to some of her stuff, but seeing as though it is filtered through the media and not staight from the horse's mouth i don't integrate too much into my own development. but i get a kick out of her and she brings up some good debate issues. i dressed up as courtney for halloween because i look a bit like her and hey - halloween is supposed to be scary. it was fun. i had my picture taken in bars. i was queen for a night. i got wasted. i got raped. so, like it or not, courtney will be stuck somewhere in my brain with some other thorns until i die.


By Anonymous on Wednesday, March 18, 1998 - 01:15 pm:

I love Courtney. But I must say, no matter how much I do, theres still a ton of things about her that bother me. I'm a HUGE Hole and Love fan, but still there are those things about her that just make me want her to change some of her ways.


By TAiRRiE on Tuesday, May 5, 1998 - 02:48 am:

I am just 14 years old and I can truly say that Courtney and Hole, along with Nirvana and some other bands have changed my life. I admit that Courtney acts up for the cameras, or at least she used to, but that's just the kind of person she is. Would Hole's songs and lyrics be so intense and aggressive if she was some sweet polite little angel who hid away from the cameras? She is cool.


By Anonymous on Saturday, May 9, 1998 - 06:15 am:

I just wanted to say that I feel that Countney Love is a really good perfromer and a wonderful singer.
I feel really sorry that some people just can not understand her music it is complex but not that much .
I would just like to say to all the Tarts out there Cortney love Rocks


By Anonymous on Wednesday, May 13, 1998 - 07:20 am:

I love my self and i want to live for ever :o)


By Cyrix66 on Wednesday, June 10, 1998 - 01:24 am:

Well, I have mixed feelings regarding Ms. Love. I am not too familiar with her band's music--I don't own any of Hole's albums--but what I have heard is fine, nothing especially groundbreaking but certainly not crap. It is a little derivative of various other artists, as is her appearance (both old and new Courtney) but who isn't these days? Very few artists are making an original statement. While plenty of these so-so artists make it for some reason unbeknownst to me (and even more truly awful ones), I definitely think that in her case much of her fame/notoriety is attributable to her husband. This is not an insult--music is an incredibly competitive business and the people who make it usually have some little piece of luck or good fortune or whatever you want to call it which serves to separate them from the crop at just the right moment. I get the impression that she is somewhat unstable, basically due to the wide contrasts in her public behavior, which is either so saccharine sweet as to be sickening (smiling and batting her eyelids; she looks like she is trying a whole hell of a lot harder than most other celebrities to be charming and a "pleasure" to work with) or kind of scary and clearly controlling (e.g. her behavior on the Today Show when promoting "The People vs. Larry Flint"). On the latter of those two very different Courtneys: Women always get a bad rap for such behavior, while a man would be praised for not taking any bull. I mean, Peter Fonda made death threats on the answering machine of a biographer and most people don't even know about it. A woman defending herself is usually a bitch while a man who doesn't defend himself is usually a wimp. I can also understand her wanting to protect her daughter, if this is her motivation, but she did talk openly about her sordid past, almost taking delight in it, in the earlier days of her fame. Personally, I think it's trashy to talk about one's problems like that, whether using it as a tale of caution or a self-marketing ploy. I don't know if she has ever made herself a cautionary, "just say no" figure, but I haven't ever seen her taking that stance. If she doesn't feel that way, I'm sure she is a person who has had some great times while doing drugs and also probably knows a lot of people who use/have used drugs and aren't the stereotypical screwed-up junkie as presented to the American people by their government, in which case she should speak up and disperse some of those misconceptions which keep the racist and dangerous drug war going. She certainly hasn't shied away from saying potentially "outrageous" things in the past. She herself is a successful drug user (who doesn't bet she isn't still using--if you ask me, she's switched to primarily coke--helps her to maintain that charming, other Courtney while at public events. There is, by the way, nothing wrong with that.) Basically in Courtney Love, I see a woman in keeping with the likes of Eva Peron, Ginger Spice, Madonna, Sharon Stone--the woman who will do anything for fame. A person who wants to be a celebrity simply to be a celebrity.. Also I see a woman who is suffering from the brand of on eof modern pop cultures favorite villains--the Siren who ruins a great male artist. She is the 90's Yoko Ono. When society loves a celebrity, they are in love with them and are truly jealous and possessive, especially with the cultural icon type (John Lennon). This is also why religious types get so bent out of shape over the sexualizing of Jesus Christ. It kills people to think that another mortal human for some reason is able to somehow gain the particular respect of their seemingly immortal demi-god while they remain part of a nameless, faceless mob of fans. People are jealous of her. And she did do a good job in the Larry Flint movie. Regardless, I don't think I would want to be friends with her because she seems like a head case ultimately, and I wouldn't want to fuck her because she is too tall and wears too much makeup and no longer has any personal style.


By DrunkenButterfly on Thursday, August 6, 1998 - 11:31 pm:

I like Courtney...moreso her image and style more than her as a person, though.
I love Hole. I have all their albums, and I'm excited about the new one coming out
this fall. BUT - I don't like how Courtney is too much of a careerist...she does things
to boost her publicity, but she doesn't actually work with the music itself...if you've
noticed, most of her work has been done by others...Kurt, Billy Corgan, etc. She can't really
accomplish much by herself. I really liked her in that Larry Flynt movie, though.


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