Popular people


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By Helen on Wednesday, May 20, 1998 - 04:49 pm:

Why does everyone always talk about how much they hate *popular* people? I thought popular meant you have a lot of friends?
If the meaning of this is the 'cool' crowd, or popular with the guys, I guess I could understand.
The popular crowd at my old school were disliked by almost everyone- they must have known it. The boys didn`t really like them either- as a guy friend of mine once told me;
"They`re a bit loose, really. Good practice until I find a nice girl."
Needless to say, he got a punch in the arm, but I`ve found this is turning into the attitude. What do you think?


By FLOWER on Thursday, May 21, 1998 - 03:16 pm:

People who say they hate the popular people are just jelous. But, girls who know they are popular can be really big headed, bitchy and sometimes total slags.Genuinly popular people are those who are liked for what they are, not what they can do.


By Titania on Thursday, May 21, 1998 - 06:21 pm:

popular people are the ones who are class president and treasurer and stuff like that...they get there because they are so fake to everyone. I really don't like the majority of the popular people in my school, i think the only reason why they are popular IS because people don't really JUST HOW FAKE THEY ARE! I prefer real people who aren't nice to everyone just because they will admit that they don't like so and so! Popular people will smile the sweetest smile and then will say the nastiest things behind there back...and people just don't realize it! I think it is better for someone to know that you don't like them than for them to think you do and think that you are a good friend...when people do that, they are blatant liars! LETS GET REAL! BE REAL NOT PLASTIC!


By Titania on Thursday, May 21, 1998 - 06:23 pm:

oh, and no Flower, i'm not jealous, i prefer my position better than those of popular people, because i don't have the stress of liing a lie!


By Anonymous on Tuesday, May 26, 1998 - 05:38 pm:

looks like the word 'popular' is out to get a brand new dictionary definition


By FLOWER on Friday, May 29, 1998 - 01:22 pm:

Good for you Titania. I`m not jelous either , but I know alot of people who are.
Yes, I agree with you there anonymous!


By AndRomeDA-SkyE on Saturday, June 6, 1998 - 12:51 am:

popularity is only as big as you think you are.

i always thought i was a total loser, till ppl I never knew started telling me how cool i was. I take all that with a grain of salt. In my eyes i'll always be a loser.

popularity means being yourself and standing up for your friends. If you want to be popular, dont make fun of ppl, making fun only makes enemies, dont be afraid to smile, dont roll your eyes, blah blah blah blah blah

hang out with whoever YOU want, despite how others feel about them. Being a snob isnt good, coz then you only get snobby friends. Not good to realize that *hey* i'm a bitch and so are all my friends...

just be yourself and be nice,.

signed, dear abby *roflmao*


By Joanna on Monday, June 22, 1998 - 05:07 pm:


Titania - You are totally cool!! You go girl!! If you are in the "in crowd" you're NOT popular!! You're usually a slut. Look up popular in the dictionary - it means you have lots of friends not enemies....... This girl from the "popular crowd" came up to me a few weeks ago and said " Do you want to be in our crowd?" I told her to pi*s off. I'm happy with my friends coz they're cool.

See Ya

~Joanna~


By Olivia on Tuesday, June 23, 1998 - 08:09 pm:

I know that some "popular people" are snotty--I'm not saying they're not--but it's really unfair to label a whole group by one or more's actions. I guess to some in high school, I was popular--inside I was pretty lonely...most people assumed because I took honors courses and was part of student council, etc., that I was snotty. I HATE SNOTTY PEOPLE!! Okay? Always have, always will. My senior year one guy said to me, "I always thought you were a bitch, but you're pretty nice." (By the way, he and his friends put me through hell for 4 years in the halls!) When I asked why, he said it was because I never said hi to him. But you know what? He never said hi to me either! We laughed about it then.
I guess my point is that you all are being very judgemental of a group instead of the individuals who have hurt you (and I know they have--been hurt myself by them). Don't be friends with those people. Don't even waste your time talking about them--life will eventually catch the real snots with their pants down and they will notice the rest of the world FINALLY. Just don't be so quick to judge, and ALWAYS EVALUATE YOUR REASONS FOR HATING SOMEONE. I'm not saying this is the case for any of you, but sometimes an individual is sensitive to others who have achieved what that individual wants. Don't let yourself fall into the trap!! Love!


By Anonymous on Wednesday, June 24, 1998 - 11:43 am:


Olivia, shut up.


By Olivia on Thursday, June 25, 1998 - 07:36 pm:

Thanks for the intelligent answer Anonymous!


By Leia on Sunday, June 28, 1998 - 02:51 pm:

Olivia- you go girl and ignore the folks too cracked to think of a-thing inteligent or original to say


By Bubbles on Thursday, July 2, 1998 - 10:58 am:

I dont think that all popular people are snotty. Most of them are but still.!If you where pretty , clever, good at sport etc you would love it.
I think everyone is popular in their own way if you know what i mean.Okay this is just a whole load of blabber so bye!!!!!!


By Ultraviolet on Friday, July 17, 1998 - 07:05 pm:

I think the popular=snotty stereo type comes from people who rise up to popularity and think that they are somehow the "chosen one" and start treating everyone else inferiorly (is that a word?) In a way, it's kind of human nature (don't get me wrong-- I'm not justifying it.)


By Rhiannon on Thursday, July 23, 1998 - 05:37 pm:

I have read the first few letters from Flower and Titania. The people who are jealous of the so-called 'cool' people (I refuse to call them popular because they are not, most people hate them) are just as much phoneys as the 'cool' people themselves because those are the ones that try to change themselves just to fit in with them. The cool crowd are all totally not cool, I'll tell you who are cool though...HIPPIES!!!!! Hippies are sooooo cool, except the drugs part but that doesn't matter because I can just pretend to be stoned and skip the dying part. Hippies in the sixties where ridiculed and hated and yet they still carried on with their vegetarian, caring and sharing, stand up for your own opinions, ways!


By Laurel on Friday, July 24, 1998 - 11:12 am:

I know this is sort of off-topic, but I liked your post about hippies. My parents weren't total hippies in the 60s but they dressed like them (my dad had a ponytail) and they were vegetarians. They liked the Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan type of music and my mom wanted to get involved in protesting the Vietnam war but she was scared to cause the police were so brutal to protesters.


By Rhiannon on Saturday, July 25, 1998 - 03:23 pm:

My dad still has a pony tail but he was to young to be a hippy, but he loves hippy music like The Mamas and The Papas and Led Zeplin (and Bob Dylan)and he used to be on Marawana (he's off it now) and I also love that kind of music. That was real music. I love all types of music but the stuff in the charts today is losing it's genius if you know what I mean. By the way, Laurel you keep popping up everywhere. I come here because I'm not allowed in the chat-rooms, but I've come to know some really inciteful people through tis place. Please tell me what youm are like, respond on Just Plain Talk I: I just want to talk about stuff section. See-ya.


By Rhiannon on Saturday, July 25, 1998 - 03:23 pm:

My dad still has a pony tail but he was to young to be a hippy, but he loves hippy music like The Mamas and The Papas and Led Zeplin (and Bob Dylan)and he used to be on Marawana (he's off it now) and I also love that kind of music. That was real music. I love all types of music but the stuff in the charts today is losing it's genius if you know what I mean. By the way, Laurel you keep popping up everywhere. I come here because I'm not allowed in the chat-rooms, but I've come to know some really inciteful people through this place. Please tell me what youm are like, respond on Just Plain Talk I: I just want to talk about stuff section. See-ya.


By Laurel on Sunday, July 26, 1998 - 04:44 pm:

Hey Rhiannon, I left a message for you in that section. : )


By Ultra violet on Saturday, August 22, 1998 - 02:25 pm:

i'm a liar too!!!! :)


By Cara on Saturday, September 5, 1998 - 02:06 pm:

In My school, the popular people are all nice but sluts and v.bigheaded. I prefer my crowd of friends. Oh and hi too Joanna and Bubbles


By Sazzy on Friday, October 2, 1998 - 01:58 pm:

My friends at school and I refer to the 'popular people' as 'the it group' . At our school, they're not the clever, all round good people people. Oh no. The people who are good at Maths and English and anything else are the ones who get outcasted. We are the 'bods' and the 'boffins'.The people who are not 'cool'. The 'saddo's'. The 'it group' are the girls with their designer labels and their designer school bags and their make-up and their 'I've got to redo my hair every two minutes' and their 'I'm only saying hello to you because I pity you 'cos you not 'popular'' and their 'I can let the whole class down by not even trying to do a scrap of work because I'm going to be a model'
I, personally have my own definitions of 'cool', So hello to all my truly cool friends out there!
Lucy, Abi, Kirn, Fionnuala, Becky, Kevin, Sarah, Vicky, Rose, Gareth, Anisha, Katie, everyone in steel pans, and everyone who's ever been told they're not cool
Thank you, and goodnight!


By Sazzy on Friday, October 2, 1998 - 02:01 pm:

Just as a matter of interest, is the 'anonymous' who told Olivia to shut up, the same anonymous who simply posted 'shut up' on the baby names discussion?


By MeG on Wednesday, October 7, 1998 - 11:35 pm:

Yeah,in our school most of the popular people are bitches/sluts that think that they are all that.I don't know why they are considered popular if alot of people don't like them.U could also say the "cool" crowd,but they aren't really "cool"either.They consider "cool" smoking&doing drugs.Cause thats what alot of them do.Why do they all have messed up lives???In like 5th grade everybody liked them when they didn't do the other stuff but now they are all mostly bitches.
*MeG*


By Orio on Friday, October 16, 1998 - 01:19 pm:

{EEEKKK!!!!!!!!!!!I'm gonna say this even though ye are gonna deny it and say no way..bitch etc. but me being me i really dont give a crap but "meg" d'ya know what u said actually sounds like you are JEALOUS.So what if the cool people smoke, believe it or not a lotta people smoke!!Coincidence or wha??Also popular people are popular for a reason not just cause they might be sluts.Maybe because everyonbe likes them , thinks they are funny,Thinks they are easy to get with.Also let me drop some science on u...1 of my teachers said that its people with low self esteem who drag down others...in exactly the way u did.The very fact they have messed up lives has nothing gotta do with popularity,I reakon they were popular before smoking gange etc.and people still the good in them.My dear grrl i really think you should think of them as peolpe with feelings rather than slutty bitchy gange smoking popular people.Ya might actually find they are half decentya know...Me dears get a clue..get a life and get some understanding.}


By Orio on Friday, October 16, 1998 - 01:20 pm:

{EEEKKK!!!!!!!!!!!I'm gonna say this even though ye are gonna deny it and say no way..bitch etc. but me being me i really dont give a crap but "meg" d'ya know what u said actually sounds like you are JEALOUS.So what if the cool people smoke, believe it or not a lotta people smoke!!Coincidence or wha??Also popular people are popular for a reason not just cause they might be sluts.Maybe because everyonbe likes them , thinks they are funny,Thinks they are easy to get with.Also let me drop some science on u...1 of my teachers said that its people with low self esteem who drag down others...in exactly the way u did.The very fact they have messed up lives has nothing gotta do with popularity,I reakon they were popular before smoking gange etc.and people still the good in them.My dear grrl i really think you should think of them as peolpe with feelings rather than slutty bitchy gange smoking popular people.Ya might actually find they are half decentya know...Me dears get a clue..get a life and get some understanding.}


By MeG on Saturday, October 17, 1998 - 10:49 pm:

No,its not me who just thinks that.Everyone esle in the grade thinks that way too.Cause for homecoming nobody chose them cause they know how they are bitches&sluts.I'm not saying that all of them are but alot of them are.Some of them are half decent people.And no,i don't make judgements on people until i have solid proof that they act that way.And no i said they use to be like so that means that they use to be popular.In our school basically the only people that smoke&do drugs are the "it" group(the group i've been talking about) and the grunges and the people that have no friends.Yea,i'd really be jealous of them doing drugs.Drugs suck,and they just mess up their your lives.And smoking,sucks too,cause anybody who does it has shitty skin,and bad breath.As i said nobody likes them,thats why the upperclassmen beat them up so much.No,none of them are funny,alot of them talk to much and people are always telling them to shut up.They talk badly about everybody else other than their group of friends of too,we've heard them talking(not me personally but other people) so they must be supposedly "insecure" if they bring people down too.Okay,i've never put them down like calling them bitches&sluts behind their backs.On this message board is the first time i have ever said it.But most people at my school have said out loud.U must have a messed up understanding if u think smoking,drugs,and sex 24/7, is normal and okay.WHat they do is not normal at all and i really never think about anymore cause of the way they are.I have more important things to think about.I just wanted to get my opionon out in the open cause if i do it here there are no hurt people.Alot of people put people down in here,just check out things like"bitches in school"YEAH THEY ALL MUST BE INSECURE.wHATEVER.
*MeG*


By MeG on Saturday, October 17, 1998 - 10:51 pm:

I'm guessing Orio that u are popular or a "worishiper" or them.
*MeG*


By MeG on Saturday, October 17, 1998 - 10:54 pm:

True popular people i have no problems with and i don't speak badly of them.That means that everybody likes them!And these true popular people aren't the same people i have been talking about.
*MeG*


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 18, 1998 - 04:38 pm:

Meg fuck off would ya...Can you qoute where i said drugs were ok?no i'm affrraid u cant coz...OOOH i never posted it , DUH!!! Ye i gonna say it drugs are a problem,but i dont know many that use them...And i'm not a worshipper of cool people i just used to say what u did untill i GOT A CLUE .Popular people are poopular for a reason...and i never said i woz popular, let me drop some science on u...everybody in my year knows me but i'm not exaactly swarmed with peoplle ya c i have a crowd of pals and guess wha , we dont diss popular people coz yet again they are still popular for a reason.By the way smokin is fine...God did some anti-smoker get into your head..And believe it or not sex is great..d'ya wanna know why ?COZ WITHOUT IT THE HUMAN RACE COULD NT SURVIVE...Smoking drugs and sex are normal as it ispart of life...maybe noot u'r innocent little life but u do come across it daily(a perfect canditate for Jerry Springer i reakon)YE i still reakon u'r just jealous or affraid of the cool people in your school...regardless of what your litt;le pals and you say i think u might just be jealous of the cool grrls who get all the fine lads u cant have......
ORIO


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 18, 1998 - 04:38 pm:

Meg fuck off would ya...Can you qoute where i said drugs were ok?no i'm affrraid u cant coz...OOOH i never posted it , DUH!!! Ye i gonna say it drugs are a problem,but i dont know many that use them...And i'm not a worshipper of cool people i just used to say what u did untill i GOT A CLUE .Popular people are poopular for a reason...and i never said i woz popular, let me drop some science on u...everybody in my year knows me but i'm not exaactly swarmed with peoplle ya c i have a crowd of pals and guess wha , we dont diss popular people coz yet again they are still popular for a reason.By the way smokin is fine...God did some anti-smoker get into your head..And believe it or not sex is great..d'ya wanna know why ?COZ WITHOUT IT THE HUMAN RACE COULD NT SURVIVE...Smoking drugs and sex are normal as it ispart of life...maybe noot u'r innocent little life but u do come across it daily(a perfect canditate for Jerry Springer i reakon)YE i still reakon u'r just jealous or affraid of the cool people in your school...regardless of what your litt;le pals and you say i think u might just be jealous of the cool grrls who get all the fine lads u cant have......
ORIO


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 18, 1998 - 04:38 pm:

Meg fuck off would ya...Can you qoute where i said drugs were ok?no i'm affrraid u cant coz...OOOH i never posted it , DUH!!! Ye i gonna say it drugs are a problem,but i dont know many that use them...And i'm not a worshipper of cool people i just used to say what u did untill i GOT A CLUE .Popular people are poopular for a reason...and i never said i woz popular, let me drop some science on u...everybody in my year knows me but i'm not exaactly swarmed with peoplle ya c i have a crowd of pals and guess wha , we dont diss popular people coz yet again they are still popular for a reason.By the way smokin is fine...God did some anti-smoker get into your head..And believe it or not sex is great..d'ya wanna know why ?COZ WITHOUT IT THE HUMAN RACE COULD NT SURVIVE...Smoking drugs and sex are normal as it ispart of life...maybe noot u'r innocent little life but u do come across it daily(a perfect canditate for Jerry Springer i reakon)YE i still reakon u'r just jealous or affraid of the cool people in your school...regardless of what your litt;le pals and you say i think u might just be jealous of the cool grrls who get all the fine lads u cant have......
ORIO


By MeG on Monday, October 19, 1998 - 05:12 pm:

THESE PEOPLE WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT AREN'T POPOLAR....I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE TRULY POPULAR PEOPLE!I DON'T JUST HATE PEOPLE CAUSE THEY SMOKE.I COMPLETELY AGAINST IT BUT I'M NOT GOING TO JUST HATE SOMEONE FOR THAT REASON.SMOKING SUCKS,IF U DO SMOKE U CAN'T SEE IT TILL 20 YEARS LATER BUT YOUR SKIN WILL BE FALLING OFF YOUR FACE LIKE SOME 80 YEAR OLD PERSONS FACE DOES.OKAY MY DAD SMOKED FOR AWHILE AND HE IS ONLY LIKE 50 AND HAS THE SKIN OF AN 80 YEAR OLD.2ND, SMOKING GIVES YOU REALLY BAD BREATH AND MAKES YOUR CLOTHES STINK.THIRD, U GET REALLY SHITTY TEETH.JUST GETTING THAT POINT ACROSS.OK,SEX.THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT,BUT I DON'T RESPECT PEOPLE AT ALL(THE PEOPLE WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT)THAT HAS SEX WITH 100S OF GUYS.AND I AM NOT EXAGERATING.DRUGS&SMOKING&LOTS OF UNDERAGE SEX DOES CHANGE YOUR LIFE.MY MOM WAS SAYING THAT EVERYBODY WHO DID THAT STUFF IN HER HIGH SCHOOL,WHEN THEY ALL CAME BACK FOR THE REUNION HAD CRAPPY LIVES BECAUSE OF THEIR CRAPPY DECISIONS.DON'T BELIEVE ME?JUST WAIT TILL YOU GO TO YOUR 20 YEAR REUNION EVERYTHING WILL BE THE OPPOSITE.OKAY I'M GETTING REALLY OFF SUBJECT.JERRY SPRINGER IS STUPID,ALL THAT STUFF IN THERE IS PLANNED,IT WAS LIKE ALL OVER THE NEWS.
DOING DRUGS ECT.,ECT. IS NOT COOL AT ALL.AND I AM NOT JEALOUS AND I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THEM.I WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE LIKE THOSE PEOPLE,WHO HAVE MESSED UP LIVES.THEY ARE NOT POPULAR!AND ALOT OF THEM ARE NOT WANTED BY THE GIRLS/GUYS.I THINK PEOPLE ARE SHALLOW WHO ONLY WANT GUYS FOR THEIR LOOKS.I LOOK FOR PERSONALITY NOT LOOKS.FOR GIRLS THE ONLY GUYS THAT THEY GET,ARE THE UGLY&EXTREMELY PREVERTED GUYS.THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING PREVERTED BUT THESE GUYS ARE JUST EUHH....WAY PREVERTED!!!!!U ARE TAKING EVERYTHING TO SERIOUSLY!CHILL OKAY?
*MeG*


By Orio on Tuesday, October 20, 1998 - 02:22 pm:

Yo Meg...you r da 1 who needs 2 chill...u'r da 1 who is ngoin mad shovin yer views down me throat,keep calm,i still think u are.


By Anonymous on Tuesday, October 20, 1998 - 04:23 pm:

You idiots think you are sooooo smart. Please sit down, shut up, and get to place in society that is meant for you because you all are obviously not going to do anything about it.


By MeG on Tuesday, October 20, 1998 - 07:39 pm:

Okay,(i can't believe i'm saying this)but u know what i think we should just stop this.Okay let just forget about it cause us fighting over something really stupid.We both seem we have strong views about it.So thats why i guess why we both took it seriously.Now i'm getting pissed off at this "anonymous" person!What are u trying to say?What does that mean?Get in to what society.Okay your not being any better than us by saying bad things about us!Whatever.I ain't nothing again.
*MeG*


By MeG on Tuesday, October 20, 1998 - 07:40 pm:

I mean i ain't going to start anything again.Forgot a couple words....
*MeG*


By Endora on Tuesday, October 20, 1998 - 10:42 pm:

Orio & Meg,

I've "talked" w/both of you in various discussion groups here & I wish the 2 of you could talk things out, because based on previous correspondence, you both seem like bright, caring, intelligent people.


By Orio on Wednesday, October 21, 1998 - 03:54 pm:

Well Endora you'd be damn happy 2 know u'r wrong... i'm as intelliogent as my personal "flea"BUT imma agree with "anon"what r-u-talkin about???


By MeG on Thursday, October 22, 1998 - 04:58 pm:

Okay seriously this is just like for people who want to tell their opionons on "popular people."It started as an argument on it but now its about so much more,and more people are getting involved.That's good that u are trying to make peace Endora,but why do we have to talk it out?We don't even know each other so it really doesn't matter.And we are not going to agree with each other so it doesn't matter.So just forget about and get back on topic.
*MeG*


By Endora on Friday, October 23, 1998 - 12:25 am:

Hey, I guess I forgot these things always sound worse on message boards than the actually are. Re: the popular people thing, I'd have to go back a bit in my memory, but from what I recall, as long as people weren't mean, I didn't care if someone was popular or not.

As for the drugs/slut thing, I'm not saying people should do drugs, because there are dangers. Even marijuana can be dangerous because as long as it's illegal, you don't know what you're getting. I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana, because I think, as long as it's not mixed w/anything else, it's about the same as alcohol and cigarettes. Some people can use it recreationally, some become addicted.

Anyway getting back to the popular scene, a lot of the artsy kids in high school were known to smoke some pot and they were pretty nice people. They didn't fit into the "inner circle" and neither did I. As for the slut thing, I think girls/women calling each other that is a classic case of girls/women keeping each other down. Ever notice there's no male equivalent? The closest thing in the alphabet describing the same behavior in boys/men is "stud". When girls/women call another female a slut, the old double standard collects its royalties.


By MeG on Friday, October 23, 1998 - 05:33 pm:

Okay, true popular are cool and not mean.Its the "popular" people that i don't like,there not mean,but i don't like them for the reasons i listed above.
There the kind of people that always act nice to u but talk behind your back about everybody not in their group.Marijuana is worse than cigarettes and drinking, it wouldn't be considered illegal if it wasn't.Any type of drug is bad and will ruin your life,and kill you at anytime.But let me get this straight,i hate drugs,i don't hate people who do drugs,there is more to it.Okay basically its the guys more than the girls call the girls sluts.They say it as a bad thing but still would have sex with them if they had the chance.Yeah it doesn't make since.How come a girl is called a slut but a guy is considered cool for having sex,what is with that!
*MeG*


By Anonymous on Saturday, October 24, 1998 - 05:54 pm:

Endora and meg...have you never heard of the term "giggalo"????DUH!!Jesus, by the way ye are carrying on their is no such thing as a loser and only people like YOU should be popular...meddears get some oscars for that preformance!!Also keep us those dreams...
Sparkle


By MeG on Saturday, October 24, 1998 - 08:26 pm:

Sparkle,what does "giggalo" and meddears mean???Are u insulting us???Okay,i just have really strong opionons about things!There is nothing wrong with that.Its better than just believeing what everybody else believes.Okay Sparkle lets get your opionon on popular and "popular" people???If u didn't get this from what i said before this is my opionon i like popular people but i don't like "popular"people.Get what i'm saying???
*MeG*


By Keely on Saturday, October 24, 1998 - 10:44 pm:

Okay what I am confused with is many of you are expressing how no one likes the popular ppl.... what??? Being popular means people like you. It doesn't mean you are a slut, or that you do drugs, or that you are student council president.... it means that you get along with people..... ie: you are friendly.
I think that perhaps part of this is that in high school a lot of cliques tend to exist. And different cliques do different things..... often the so-called popular group is just the group that is more invilved with school activites, like sports, and student council...... it doesn;t mean people like them more or less.
I have never been the popular girl until this summer when I worked away from home..... suddenly I was the one everyone wanted to get to know... and to my shock the one all the guys talked about! I found it strange that in one envrionment i was the weriod girl that carried a certain amount of baggage, and yet in a totally new envrionment, without any baggage I was not strange, or werid.... just me.
I guess that my point is that popularity is not about what you do, it's about who you are.... and unfortunetly in high school your reputation often speaks for you. It can create who you are in other people's eyes without you knowing it....

And to Meg:
I can of course agree that often the so-called popualr ppl can be two-faced..... but you are making a huge generalization. Not all people who do pot end of fucked up, not all who smoke die of lung cancer, and not all ppl who have sex in high school end up going no where......

just my opinion...
:)
Keely


By Endora on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 10:31 am:

I think Sparkle means gigolo, which is a man who get paid for or is kept/financially supported in exchange for sex.

Sparkle,

1) The negative connotations of the word gigolo aren't because he has sex, but rather because he gets paid for it/supported for it. It's the reversal of financial roles which lead to the negative connotations, not the sexual activity.

Of course the whole thing w/men & money is another double standard. A friend of mine writes computer games from home & we used to joke around that we'd get married & he could work from home & take care of the kids while I went out to work. I made the mistake of saying this to my mom & she went ballistic, telling me I'd better not support any man. Although this friend & I were platonic and it was kind of a moot issue, I wouldn't see anything wrong w/the arrangement. He'd be working from home & taking care of the hypothetical kids. There are some double standards which discriminate against men.

2) Re: the popular thing, I'm not saying who should & should be popular, I'm merely saying who I choose to spend my free time with. After a brief phase (my first year) of trying to be w/the "popular" crowd in jr. high (11-14 years), I realized it was a waste of time & set about making friends w/people I had common interests, values w/etc. By high school, I pretty much went my own way and didn't pay much attention to the popularity thing.

I didn't have an anti-popularity bias either. I know some people who hated cheerleaders & football players just because they were cheerleaders & football players & wouldn't talk to them. How stupid. Some of the cheerleaders & football players were nice & were friendly to people regardless of popularity level. I'd talk w/them & I was glad to see them at my high school reunion.

However, some of the "popular people" were obnoxious & mean & would ignore or mock the less popular people. I had no use for them & didn't waste my time trying to appease them or obsess over them. What's the point? I could be spending the time w/the people that matter to me or even reading a good book.




By Anonymous on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 11:14 am:

Endora..its damn odvious what a giggalo is...Keely..finally ya got it,popular means ppl like u ...meg i truely know u r stupid after that post..get some intelligence next time u'r out shoppin.....
sparkle


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 11:15 am:

Endora..its damn odvious what a giggalo is...Keely..finally ya got it,popular means ppl like u ...meg i truely know u r stupid after that post..get some intelligence next time u'r out shoppin.....
sparkle


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 11:15 am:

Endora..its damn odvious what a giggalo is...Keely..finally ya got it,popular means ppl like u ...meg i truely know u r stupid after that post..get some intelligence next time u'r out shoppin.....
sparkle


By Anonymous on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 11:16 am:

Endora..its damn odvious what a giggalo is...Keely..finally ya got it,popular means ppl like u ...meg i truely know u r stupid after that post..get some intelligence next time u'r out shoppin.....
sparkle


By Endora on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 02:22 pm:

sparkle,

1) Look up gigolo in the dictionary.

2) Before you cast aspersions on anyone else's intelligence, you should accomplish the following:

a) learn to structure a coherent, convincing argument that will prove your point instead of resorting to second rate insults

b) learn how to post to a bulletin board so that you don't repeat your message four times (or did you really, really, really, really mean it that much?)

c) learn to spell (normally, I wouldn't make an issue out of someone's spelling, but you're challenging my definition of a word you're not even spelling properly & it's not even an alternative spelling to save typing strokes, such as u for you or btw for by the way)


By MeG on Sunday, October 25, 1998 - 03:56 pm:

Keely,u are so right.The "popular" people are the people who are more involved in school activites.Actually only a few of them are good at sports though and the rest are people that they hang out with them,their"resources",u know for drugs.So the "popular" people are really just made up of the ones who are in the sports,activities and their friends who are their resources to drugs they need.Okay let get me this straight one more time-I and everyone else like the popular people but we don't like the "popular" people.Get what i'm saying???I guess your right Keely about the last part but see there is a good chance that it can happen.And i'm only talking about the people in my school and how they act and not describing every "popular" person out there.
OK,Endora,so exactly how does giggalo describe me.That i pay people???Thats what it sounds like.For what????OK,i don't hate football players,and cheerleaders,none of them make up the "popular" people.Alot of them are popular but they are truly popular.Hey,anyway one of my friends is a cheerleader!
Anonymous,Endora made it pretty clear what she meant,i think your the confused one.OK,i am not stupid.U don't know me at all,so u can't really say what i am and what i am not.OK,actually i am pretty smart.But most of your sentences are not complete,and don't make sense,so i don't have any clue what your saying.And what did Orio bring up early???About people who say bad things about people are insecure???Well,if that is true,wouldn't that make u insecure?!?!?!?!?Umm,shopping isn't really the best place to get intelligence if i was stupid,that is where u shop.Use complete sentences next time.
*MeG*


By Sparkle on Monday, October 26, 1998 - 01:02 pm:

Endora and meg go become one with yer dictionary's...I am under no obligation what-so-ever to complete whole sentances and shallow as you are...see whole words...i really think you should try copping on and insults come frrom everywhere and you only take offence from peple ye disagree with so in conclusion i shall say i can compleete whole sentances, do you know any B+ student(English student may i add)whocan't??I really don't think i need to look up a dictionary as yours is so far up your arse you could become the second best dictionary in the u.s...meg that is where your from or at least by the way you carry on it gives me that idea.Never mind orio and her speech..you only agree with her or him now cos you've copped on "well she has a point"even though you probably critised her then...ye are such hippocrytes and endora show me how to spell that properly wioll ya ?and in case you did not detect sarcasm in that i'll tell you now there was sarcasm in that.
stay sad me dears.
SPARKLE


By MeG on Monday, October 26, 1998 - 05:02 pm:

Shallow???What does being shallow have to do with complete sentences and spelling words right.All i want to do is beable to actually understand what your writing.I don't expect u to have have perfect grammer and spelling but just make sense when your writing and spell most words right.So i'm not saying u have to look in the dictionary just so u can spell EVERY WORD RIGHT.WHAT MAKES ME SHALLOW???U can't judge me,u don't know me.Believe i am far from shallow.Okay but the insults thing i was trying to point that necessarily at u,but my point of saying that was that what Orio said about every insult u say means your insecure,isn't necessarily right.Okay?
I'm not like some person that all i think about is grammer&everything else we learn in school.I'm probbaly just as smart as u are i get A's,B's,and a couple C's.(That's for all different subjects.)But no dictionaries aren't my life.And i probbaly am not better than u at spelling,i just take the time to spell words right,so people can understand what i am saying.What are u saying that u are not from the US????There is nothing wrong with the US!What is THAT suppose to mean!
This is really pitiful,this is why our world is messed up.People fighting about stupid things.Okay,its one thing to start arguing about popular people(which i admit i did)but its a whole nother thing to start critizes about the stupidest things like getting pissed off by someone saying u to make half decent sentences so at least i can figure out where your saying.U don't have to get all pissed off at something so stupid,at least if u get pissed off make it something worth it.
*MeG*


By Sparkle on Monday, October 26, 1998 - 05:57 pm:

MeG as ya like to b called...Well i see now that you take offense in every little thing.I commented on you being from the U.S. ...BUT did you read any snoid comments made about it?? Believe me when i say i really would'nt be bothered.You seem to complain about what i write and how unclear it is, Yet i had to read over yours four times to actually have an idea what you were on about.So you say i have no worth while arguements .. what if i say it was people like you who jump to conclusions and judge everyone.You have most people in your school in neat little jars , labelled for every one to see.Also not all of that post above was aimed at you, then again that selfishn streak told you "hey thats you " Sad and all as it is you seem to only pick up on what you want.Odviously an allegory would be hard for you to pick up on as i have a comment in a previous post that was on two levels.You critised me for not using whole words , which i am doing now just so you can understand it..and then you turn around and abbreviate as well, in the exact manner i did .I seem to pick up on you thinking "bitch, she is soooo wrong"not that any of your comments were judgemental and uncalled for.Of course..they were.You can take whatever meaning from what i've posted as i really don't mind coz you more thatn likely will any way.It's human nature to pick up on what you want and whatever meaning you want to come of this post,thats what'll be, in your mind.YOU see you wont actually take the time to see my point of view before so why would you now?I can critise you , insult you and get pissed with you whenever i feel like it as i have this little problem , i totally disagree with you and endora and there arer 2 of you toghether pissing me off as much as you can but it really does ' nt get to me because at the end of it all i know that what i have said IS true and always will be.
can you handle that?Can you handle my oppinion of you?Can you handle me being right?Can you cope with your silly comments.I dont have an irrational judgement of you,i'm going by what you say.
Peace out
YE RIGHT!


By Endora on Monday, October 26, 1998 - 09:55 pm:

sparkle,

Can you describe what the word gigolo means since you're disputing my definition of it? Hey, I'll even accept the OED definition :-) Instead of defending your statements w/logic, etc., you make sarcastic comments about people having dictionaries up their asses. How clever!!!! How original!!!!!!

If you want to argue, be prepared to back up your arguments w/fact & logic. If not, you're just provoking for the sake of provoking. If that's the case, there's obviously no point in trying to communicate w/you. There are other people on this site who are more into provoking than talking, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to play w/you. Have fun :-)

P.S. Write when you get a sense of dialogue or nettiquette.


By MeG on Tuesday, October 27, 1998 - 07:01 pm:

Sparkle,actually my name is Meg.I'm guessing your name isn't sparkle.Okay,I'M SORRY,i couldn't understand what u were saying.And i thought u were insulting,cause thats basically all you've been doing to me,even though u don't know me.Okay,i mentioned the writing thing like once maybe twice but that was only cause i wanted to beable to understand what u are writing.U are SOOOO EXAGERATING.Sorry,its hard for u to understand,now u know how hard it is to actually understand what someone is saying.Well,u do have no arguments,it has nothing to do with the topic anymore,and is about pointless things.Think about.
Me judging u?What did i ever say about u?Nothing bad.U have been the one insulting me,so girl don't even start with that!Uhh...no...WHO'S MAKING THE JUDGEMENTS NOW!The "popular" people are only like 1/15 of our grade.I don't have everybody "in little jars".There really aren't cliques in our school.Like big blobs of people.I'm mean theres the "popular",popular,and the outcasts that make up like 1/10 of our grade.But the rest of our grade is just normal and is friends with whoever.I'm part of the normal group.I don't judge the normal,or even the outcasts or the popular people,i just am against the "popular" people.U see i use " " cause they aren't the real popular people,other people in our grade are.SELFISH???WHAT THE HELL U ARE JUST MAKIN UP STUFF?SELFISH MEANS U WANT STUFF!NOT THAT U MISREAD SOMETHING.U ARE JUST STARTIN STUFF!
Well,if u weren't pointing it at me,who were u pointing it at,be SPECIFIC.Umm,no....i read what i can UNDERSTAND.But see your last post was understandable,so there will be no more misunderstandings,but see those other ones weren't so i can't help it.NO SPARKLE THE ONLY ABBREVIATION I USED WAS U!EXAGERATION AGAIN!coNTINUE WITH THIS LATER.
-mEG


By MeG on Tuesday, October 27, 1998 - 10:08 pm:

Okay,i decided u know what this is very pointless.I don't want to continue with this any
more.I'm not going to respond to u Sparkle unless
u have to something to say that is not insulting.I'll only respond to things that has to do with this topic.
*MeG*
.


By Endora on Wednesday, October 28, 1998 - 12:54 am:

Well Meg,

sparkle's a classic, dish it out, but can't take it case. She'll get insulting,etc., but heaven forfend anyone should challenge her on logic, or even, dare we say it, insult her back, etc. she'll crawl right back into her shell.

In the "You're All Fakes" post, I pointed out that it's the most obnoxious types who whinge about how they're treated. Sparkle's a classic case.

PS sparkle,
Thanks for proving my point


By Pinchy on Thursday, October 29, 1998 - 09:45 am:

I know i'm not in your discussion but i do think each of ye have a point...I wish people would'nt insult each other.
Any way PLEASE go to "vent" and go to the topic "a dedicaton to you people , come inside me" i think it really needs an oppinion.
pinchy


By MeG on Thursday, October 29, 1998 - 09:06 pm:

Endora,your right.She goes around insulting me about things that she doesn't even though is true.And then whenever i say something she changes it around or exagerates it,to start another fight.It pissed off,so thats why i stop.
Pinchy,i'll check out that post.
*MeG*


By Sparkle on Sunday, November 1, 1998 - 10:52 am:

Well gurrrls im so glad you finally copped it and it really did'nt take much either .And meg..call me by ny name coz i was cristened not pissed on and thats my name.By the way tha reason i didnt bother posting any more in you are all fakes is actually coz ye all denied it and the cows were long home at that stage.You c ya can deny it till yer blue in tha face but its still gonna b true.As for not being able 2 handle wha i give out...try me !!Endora where exactly did i whinge about how im treaded?quote it and give me the date so i can c it...Keep yer hopes alive if ya have any.


By Endora on Sunday, November 1, 1998 - 12:28 pm:

Sparkle,

What about the following post? Especially the "You see you won't actually take the time to see my point of view before so why would you now?" part of it. Not to mention the sarcastic, "YE RIGHT" part of it

By Sparkle on Monday, October 26, 1998 - 05:57 pm:

YOU see you wont actually take the time to
see my point of view before so why would you now?I can critise you , insult you and
get pissed with you whenever i feel like it as i have this little problem , i totally
disagree with you and endora and there arer 2 of you toghether pissing me off as
much as you can but it really does ' nt get to me because at the end of it all i know
that what i have said IS true and always will be.
can you handle that?Can you handle my oppinion of you?Can you handle me being
right?Can you cope with your silly comments.I dont have an irrational judgement of
you,i'm going by what you say.
Peace out
YE RIGHT!"

Hey, I did try to stick to the issue & not get insulting. I ignored the "DUH!!Jesus" type of remarks you made & pretty much stuck to the topic. I didn't even bring up the spelling & language structure criticisms until you made your little snide remark about how Meg should go shopping for intelligence. Quite frankly, choosing to comment on someone's intelligence via semi-literate screen spew provides a major target.

Also, I kept asking you for your definition of gigolo since you were challenging mine. If you think it's more about the sexual than the financial, fine, then say so & back it up with an argument, not insults. Instead, you make comments about dictionaries being stuck up people's asses. When you keep going off the issue & insulting people, do you really expect them to want to talk w/you? For the record m'dear, if I wanted to I could get much more insulting than I've been.


By Sparkle on Monday, November 9, 1998 - 03:37 pm:

Did'nt label them eh??Tha it group,the saddos thecool people , the boffins, the outcasts...hmmm, sounds like labeling to me.

Also could you define a saddo,cause i seem to think a saddo to you is a" it" person to others.Its really not up to you to name any one at all.


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