Just4FunThanksMon Dec 7 19:32:12 1998 Hey, thats great!! That's what I like about your setup, you give me the URL and then I have to crack it myself... you should be getting paid my friend. I will admit, I'm in way over my head. I did the "notebook" tut from back in October and was starting on your SandMan Tut's when I saw the new "project" for today. The first questions were basic but I'm lost on the comparision of the 4D key to the running program. Any software you recommend, I would be happy to try out. If you put it on your site, I'll give it a try.Thanks again for the insight and really, your doing a fantastic job with this Forum/Tutorial.Take Care TTYL8RJ4F