The SandmanRe: My solution (Pedro)Thu Dec 17 13:12:03 1998 Greetings Pedro,REI Labs,I know from my own experience just how easily it is rush in for the crack and end up missing vital information in the process. The point to two task 2 was to limit everyone's cracking caperbilities by asking that you didn't use any registry/file recording software so that everyone was forced to grasp at what information was left to them in order to achieve their objectives.. Isn't ZEN cracking based on this principle?.I'm sure there are many people on this forum who have come across one or more programs that they could'nt crack. Perhaps some of the lessons being shown on this forum will now help everyone to look at these same programs again, but with a fresher approach that they may not have tried or, knew how well it can work in many cracking situations.The Sandman