Day 240 - 24 Apr 96 - Page 26


     
     1        just demonstrated which is that it is a very long and
     2        complicated way of ----
     3
     4   Q.   But "tropical forest" is not long and complicated?
     5        A.  It does not have the same evocative ring as
     6        "rainforest".
     7
     8   Q.   I understand that?
     9        A.  And that is why we used the term in the campaign slogan
    10        "Save the Rainforest" and that all the literature that we
    11        published, both technical reports, book length popular
    12        reports, and information leaflets of a wide variety, all
    13        made clear that we were in fact referring to all tropical
    14        forest types, we were referring to the rapid and severe
    15        degradation and clearance of forests in the tropical zone.
    16        This is a convention that is frequently used by other
    17        people, so there is both a popular and generic use of the
    18        word "rainforests", and then there is ----
    19
    20   Q.   You cannot tell me that.  I have got to decide that for
    21        myself.
    22        A.  In my opinion ----
    23
    24   Q.   The law does not allow me to hear any evidence about that
    25        at all?
    26        A.  Okay.
    27
    28   Q.   I did not make the law but I have to apply it.
    29        A.  Sure.
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  But when you wrote to McDonald's in your letter of
    32        5th December 1985, you wrote, the last line, saying:
    33
    34        "Both our organisations have been able to work together to
    35        make rainforest conservation more effective in global
    36        terms".
    37
    38        When you use the word "rainforest" in that letter, you were
    39        referring to?
    40        A.  I was very much referring to all the tropical forest
    41        types, you know covering the spectrum from so-called dry
    42        tropical forest to so-called tropical rainforest.
    43
    44   MS. STEEL:   Perhaps now is not the best time to do it in the
    45        middle of Mr. Secrett's evidence but, as far as I am
    46        concerned, Mr. Rampton has been trying to set the agenda on
    47        what is in issue in this case and we have not actually had
    48        a chance to respond fully about what the issues are and
    49        I can point out countless examples in all the bundles
    50        including documents from McDonald's to show that when 
    51        people are talking about rainforests they are talking about 
    52        all tropical forests not just about rainforests. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:, I am quite happy to accept from Mr. Secrett,
    55        subject to any challenge on it, that when Friends of the
    56        Earth have used "rainforest" in their literature, their
    57        literature has gone on to make clear that it includes among
    58        other types tropical dry forest type.  But I am concerned
    59        with this leaflet, I am not concerned with Friends of the
    60        Earth's literature and what the terminology of that is.

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