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     1   Q.   The next delivery.  If they had not, what would happen
     2        then?
     3        A.  It would be rejected.
     4
     5   Q.   The delivery would be rejected?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   What happens when the next load arrives?
     9        A.  Well, it would be checked again and if it was wrong
    10        again, I would say that was the end of the supplier's
    11        situation.  If you are talking to a supplier and you warn
    12        him of something which is wrong and he does it wrong again,
    13        I think he has rather exhausted his chances so he would be
    14        a delisted supplier.
    15
    16   Q.   So, if a particular specification is not complied with --
    17        let me just understand it right -- they would get a letter;
    18        how would you know when you get another consignment from
    19        that supplier whether they had complied with your
    20        guideline?
    21        A.  Well, because each delivery that comes in, there is a
    22        routine.  There is a routine on every delivery of meat that
    23        comes into the factory.  It is part of the 44 quality
    24        control checks which we carry out.
    25
    26   Q.   So, you do not actually check at the supply plant if the
    27        specification has been carried out or not?
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He said that his inspectors know every line
    30        of it and it is a working tool.  From that I have assumed
    31        there are inspections from time to time.  By all means, if
    32        you are not happy with them, ask how often and on what
    33        basis, but there are actual McKey inspectors going to the
    34        abattoirs.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  So how often do the McKey inspectors go to a
    37        particular abattoir?
    38        A.  All abattoirs would have a minimum of two inspections a
    39        year.  If any abattoir was subject of discussion, debate,
    40        worry, it would have more.
    41
    42   Q.   You said as many as five times, I think, yesterday, but if
    43        someone has been found not to carry out a particular
    44        specification, yes -- it might be, for example, cattle must
    45        not have been treated with synthetic anabolic steroids or
    46        other growth promoting hormones during their lifetime, or
    47        whatever, one of the specifications -- you find out about
    48        it; you write them a letter and say:  "Get your act
    49        together, these are not just a bit of paper for the sake of
    50        it", but when do you know if they have complied with that? 
    51        Would you send an Inspector there within 24 hours to check 
    52        or wait until the next visit six months later? 
    53        A.  It depends entirely what the problem is.  If it is a
    54        matter of the total colony count, it is a matter of their
    55        tightening up on their hygiene and cleaning procedures at
    56        night in the abattoir; if it is a problem of a cut being
    57        taken away for its commercial value and sold away from the
    58        specification -- it depends entirely what the problem is
    59        what the reaction is and how quick the reaction is.
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