Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 44
1 on page 10. Look at the items with which you have been
2 dealing in those paragraphs. Leaving aside "J", office
3 stationery, am I right in thinking that the items you are
4 there dealing with are in-store items, paper bags, napkins,
5 trays, cartons, fried cartons?
6 A. Yes.
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8 Q. Is that right? I will come back, if I may, afterwards to
9 what I call transport or storage packaging. You say at "A"
10 on page 8 that paper bags comprise the biggest usage of
11 paper items. It is the biggest single category, does that
12 mean, or the biggest volume of paper or both, do you see
13 it?
14 A. The biggest category.
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16 Q. The biggest category?
17 A. Yes.
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19 Q. What are they used for, paper bags?
20 A. They are for bagging McDonald's sandwiches, fries,
21 pies, anything other than drinks normally.
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23 Q. Is that principally for the purpose of take-away customers?
24 A. Principally, yes.
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26 Q. So you would get your, if I have it right, Big Mac, or
27 whatever it is, in a polystyrene clam shell and the staff
28 put it into the paper bag?
29 A. Yes.
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31 Q. Plus whatever else the customer has bought?
32 A. Yes, right.
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34 Q. Each of which would have its own separate container, would
35 it?
36 A. Yes.
37
38 Q. You tell us that since 1991 the bags, the paper bags, used
39 by McDonald's are made from 100 per cent unbleached,
40 recycled paper. Then you write this: "For a considerable
41 period prior to that time we used a high percentage of
42 recycled paper in the bags". Can you tell us since about
43 when that has been the case?
44 A. For as long as I have been associated with McDonald's.
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46 Q. Do you have a principal supplier of paper bags in this
47 country?
48 A. Yes, we do. It is Smith Anderson in Scotland.
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50 Q. Are you able to tell us with any of accuracy what
51 proportion of recycled material those paper bags contained
52 prior to their being 100 per cent in 1991?
53 A. No, not accurately.
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55 Q. Would it have been a tiny percentage or a medium percentage
56 or a large percentage, do you think?
57 A. It would have been fairly close to 50 per cent.
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59 Q. Then napkins, again a similar position; January 1991,
60 100 per cent recycled, before that time a percentage of
