Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 53


     
     1        A.  Yes.
     2
     3   Q.   -- your recollection when I was talking to you on the
     4        phone?
     5        A.  I remember he and Kevin Perret, I was upstairs in the
     6        crew room once, and they were, you know, quite annoyed
     7        about the fact that they were saying:  "I had better get my
     8        back pay, I had better get my back pay, because my PR is a
     9        year overdue".  I remember Kevin saying, I do not remember
    10        Jagon saying his was a year overdue, but I remember Kevin
    11        saying his was a year overdue.  Jagon just said he never
    12        got his on time.
    13
    14   Q.   Right.  I will try to push on really.  On pages 78 and 79
    15        in that tab, tab 5, you have two PRs dated the same date,
    16        apparently?
    17        A.  Right.
    18
    19   Q.   Can you throw any light on that?
    20        A.  I cannot explain it, you know.
    21
    22   Q.   Do not worry.
    23        A.  Perhaps, I do not know, there is one just a month after
    24        that so I do not know.  He has had two on the same date
    25        according to the dates and one a month later.
    26
    27   Q.   Right.  OK.  We will try to move on from this subject
    28        generally.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If that is a valid point about Jagon Flint
    31        for a year and the previous Manager, it would be during
    32        Mr. Charlesworth's reign as Store Manager that they have
    33        not been done?
    34        A.  Right.  The Manager afterwards was Dave Wynne, would
    35        that be right?
    36
    37   Q.   The second of Mr. Flint's ones, the one which has the note
    38        on it, is about 10 days after Mr. Wynne took over from
    39        Mr. Charlesworth.  Mr. Rampton helpfully gave us the other
    40        day a list of the Managers and their dates.
    41        A.  That would be the time when Kevin and Jagon were in the
    42        crew room saying that they had better get their backdated
    43        pay, because I remember going to see him as well, because
    44        I had a PR done by him, and I wanted to -- mine was well
    45        overdue as well and I wanted to make sure I got, you know,
    46        more than 10p.  I do not know when my review is from Dave
    47        Wynne.
    48
    49   Q.   Were things particularly slack when Mr. Charlesworth was
    50        Manager? 
    51        A.  Yes, but not particularly more so than they were with 
    52        any other Manager.  They were fairly bad when Jane Jarvis 
    53        was there; the same fairly bad when Alan was there; slight
    54        improvement when Dave Wynne was there and then back to
    55        fairly bad again, this PR, PRs wise.
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  If you go to tab 7 page 136 ---
    58        A.  137, yes.
    59
    60   Q.   -- at 136 in tab 7 you said -- this is John Gore's

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