Day 101 - 10 Mar 95 - Page 56
1 fact.
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3 MR. MORRIS: We have nearly finished. I do point out, I will
4 bring the reference. Mr. Rampton has said that he is not
5 objecting to the word "torture" being used in the
6 slaughter.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Look, we are falling into Friday afternoon
9 syndrome. It has happened about two Friday afternoons out
10 of three throughout this case. We end up having spats and
11 squabbles which do not advance the case one bit.
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13 So, what I suggest you do is just proceed with your
14 questions of fact and try to isolate that which you can
15 usefully ask Mr. Kenny from that which you will want to
16 argue to me at the end of the day.
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18 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): When you have made your visits to
19 slaughterhouses, which is the Midland Meat Packers and Sun
20 Valley, basically, you are concerned about meat quality
21 concerns, are you not?
22 A. One of the things that I would look at is hygiene
23 issues, if that is what you are referring to.
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25 Q. Yes, hygiene and meat quality matters?
26 A. They are certainly some of the things that I would be
27 looking at, yes.
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29 Q. That is your basic job in McDonald's, is it not, quality
30 assurance?
31 A. My basic job is looking after the quality and the
32 safety of the food that is served in our restaurants, yes.
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34 Q. When you make a visit, say, to Midland Packers, do you see
35 the audit forms that have been filled in regarding whether
36 they are satisfying McKey's specifications?
37 A. I see the audit forms or the audit forms are available
38 for inspection at McKey's, not at Midland Meat. They are
39 McKey's. I may have occasion to look at them on a visit,
40 I may not, but they are there for inspection and from time
41 to time they are inspected.
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43 Q. So how come you do not know that Midland Meat Packers have
44 been using goads, effectively, always?
45 A. I am not aware of the fact that they are.
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47 Q. You personally have visited there, so you are closer
48 probably to Midland Meat Packers than any other of the
49 suppliers?
50 A. I have visited it and I have never seen goads in use at
51 Midlands Meat Packers.
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53 Q. Is Midland Meat Packers one of the largest suppliers to
54 McKey's?
55 A. Of beef, yes.
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57 Q. Is it the largest, in fact, largest volume?
58 A. I believe it is.
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60 MS. STEEL: I cannot find the Dr. Pattison paper, but you
