Day 149 - 06 Jul 95 - Page 32


     
     1        will see that the date on the fax to me is
     2        30th June, 1995.  It relates to the credit of Mr. Stein and
     3        discredit of Mr. Gallein, but I am not really concerned
     4        about that at the moment.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At some stage, I would like to be told where
     7        to put that letter and where to put the 1995 meat
     8        suppliers.  It need not be now, but in due course.  If
     9        Mrs. Brinley-Codd tells Mr. Dudley, they will be put in the
    10        appropriate place.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, the next thing was the Guatemala map,
    13        which was then changed into a Costa Rica map, which
    14        Mr. Morris says that Dr. Gomez Gonzales says that he saw.
    15        I do not remember that, but I am sure Mr. Morris is right
    16        about that.
    17
    18        The point about that is, as your Lordship knows, that
    19        Mr. Hill went to Costa Rica at the beginning of the year to
    20        look for any documents in the possession of the McDonald's
    21        in Costa Rica which might be relevant to the issues in this
    22        case.  He came back with a few, I think, and that was the
    23        end of it.  It did not include the map.
    24
    25        There is a map, however, of Costa Rica, showing the
    26        rainforest areas and the cattle rearing areas, and that is
    27        to be found -- I do not know whether this is what
    28        Dr. Gomez Gonzales was referring to or not -- at tab 72 of
    29        yellow XIV, if anybody should be interested.  It was sent
    30        to Mr. Cesca, as a matter of fact, in May 1989, by somebody
    31        called Alvaro Cofino, whose letter to Mr. Cesca was the
    32        subject of Civil Evidence Act notice.  He enclosed with
    33        that letter the map of Costa Rica showing the two areas.
    34        If that map were accurate, then it would be conclusive of
    35        the fact that none of the beef in Costa Rica comes from the
    36        rainforest area.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  That is a ridiculous statement.  This is an
    39        application, not a closing speech.  That is Guatemala, that
    40        map.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  Sorry, that is Guatemala.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  It is not Costa Rica.
    45
    46   MR. RAMPTON:  That is why I looked it up, because the
    47        application was brought in the name of Guatemala.  It is
    48        Guatemala; Mr. Morris is quite right.  Costa Rica, there is
    49        no map.  Mr. Hill did not find one, and that is that.
    50 
    51        My Lord, the next item was another ----- 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  One of my anxieties there, which I will
    54        merely repeat, is that it has been a feature of this case
    55        to some extent that as witnesses have come into the witness
    56        box there has been mention of documents which might be
    57        relevant, which we then have discussions and, perhaps,
    58        formal argument about.  That may either be because there
    59        has been reluctance in disclosure, or it may just be that
    60        in a case which ranges as far as this it is bound to happen

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