Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 28
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2 MR. MORRIS: I do not know.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you ask a question in future along these
5 lines: "Are you sure that X, Y and Z happened", my normal
6 inference from that was that you are not accepting that it
7 did, but you cannot put positive evidence one way or the
8 other.
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10 MR. MORRIS: (To the witness) Are you absolutely sure it was me
11 that was on the other end of the phone speaking to Marion?
12 A. No, I cannot be sure. That was the impression that
13 I gained.
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15 Q. Right. You said the impression you gained was that it was
16 me, and that I was trying to change the content of the
17 public meeting to a subject that I wanted discussed. Then
18 you say: "It was generally felt that if he wished to do
19 this, he should turn up at weekly meetings in person." So,
20 are you saying there that what happened was that people
21 said, effectively: "If he wants something done, he should
22 be here in person. It is a bit of a cheek phoning in
23 saying, you know" -----
24 A. It was felt that if you wanted to influence the content
25 of meetings, that you should turn up and say so in person.
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27 Q. So, was the general drift of it that they would stick to
28 what people had agreed at the previous meeting about the
29 public meeting?
30 A. I cannot remember what was agreed at the end of it,
31 whether the content of the following meeting was changed or
32 not. To my recollection, the suggestion of anarchy versus
33 socialism was not accepted and did not take place.
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35 Q. Just very briefly on these notes: you said, in the next
36 paragraph, that there was a physical move planned for
37 London Greenpeace office, within the building, to another
38 part of the building?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. In the next paragraph: "Anthony" -- who is Mr. Pocklington,
42 presumably, yes -- "stated he would be available some time
43 during next week to come to the office and answer letters.
44 It seems that there are several people available for this
45 purpose."
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47 Was it your recollection that quite a few people had keys
48 to the office and that new people would be able to get keys
49 if they got involved?
50 A. It was certainly my impression that several people had
51 keys to the office. I cannot say that I knew that new
52 people would be given keys.
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54 Q. You did not know whether Anthony was new or not?
55 A. No, I did not.
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57 Q. But it seemed that people were quite happy for him to have
58 a key, so he could come in and answer letters?
59 A. It would appear so.
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