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     1        listen to the transcript being read out, which is not the
     2        best evidence anyway.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  Do you really want to read everything?
     5        I do not mind you pointing to this highlight and that
     6        highlight and saying, "Just so you understand we say it is
     7        relevant on that matter".  Although you would presumably do
     8        that, insofar as you thought it might be productive, in the
     9        autumn.  But I cannot see any point in reading it out.  It
    10        has been shown on the video.  If you are worried about
    11        publication, you need not be.  Because it is not, if it is
    12        Civil Evidence Act, subject to any implied undertaking as
    13        to none disclosure to people not concerned with the case,
    14        which is the same with regard to discovered documents.
    15        Because it is not a discovered document, it is a Civil
    16        Evidence Act statement or series of Civil Evidence Act
    17        statements, because more than one person speaks on it.
    18
    19             But I really cannot see any point in reading it out.
    20        You are not suffering any censorship and I have actually
    21        heard it, I will not say from the horse's mouth, but from
    22        the mouth of Mr. Rensi and his colleagues and faceless,
    23        from those who phoned in.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I am not that bothered about reading it out.
    26        Obviously, we have alluded to the bits in the article
    27        anyway.  I was just a little bit -- because I have not got
    28        it in front of me, I will look at it over the break.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suggest you leave it there.  Because you
    31        highlighted the bits you particularly want to; I have made
    32        some notes on it already.  I think I can probably see where
    33        it might be relevant to an issue and where it might not be.
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  I know I have got one, Mr. Morris's up to date
    36        marked copies somewhere, I am afraid it is not here, my
    37        Lord, but I am quite happy to give your Lordship one at
    38        some stage.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have got one already.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  Then I do not understand what this is all about.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As I say, I noted it up.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  There is one other thing I was going to say.  I
    47        have not had time to look at yet, but I have got the -- I
    48        was trying to check out a couple of the violations of child
    49        labour laws by McDonald's stores in the USA, in Trenton New
    50        Jersey.  If you remember, in particular there was the Fair
    51        Lawn one, which was a McDonald's McCop-co store.  Then
    52        there was another store, and I have actually been sent from
    53        the US Department of Labour the official paperwork to do
    54        with their successful prosecution or fine of the second
    55        store.
    56
    57             But as far as the Fair Lawn store, I am still waiting
    58        for those details.  The reason I say this is because the
    59        Fair Lawn store is actually the one that is more important,
    60        because it goes to the credibility of Mr. Stein, in

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