Day 094 - 01 Mar 95 - Page 51


     
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     2   Q.   How often does that take place, what percentage of the meat
     3        would that affect?
     4        A.  A very small percentage.  It is in the single digits --
     5        not very often.
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     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But are you saying the whole carcass is
     8        rejected then?
     9        A.  No, no, only the parts that are contaminated are
    10        rejected.
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    12   Q.   So if there is a spill, that part of the carcass is
    13        separated from the rest, you say, and is condemned?
    14        A.  That is correct.  If there is a significant portion can
    15        be trimmed off -- I mean, I am sorry, if it is a small
    16        portion it can be trimmed off.  If it is a larger portion,
    17        the carcass is separated and it is tagged by the inspector
    18        and separated from the line.
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    20   Q.   So the whole carcass is condemned?
    21        A.  No, then they go into better detail, but just to keep
    22         -- they take it out of the chain.
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    24   MS. STEEL:   So parts of it could still be used once it is
    25        checked?
    26        A.  That is correct.
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    28   Q.   The following paragraph, that is the second paragraph on
    29        the right-hand side, can you read that?
    30        A.  The one that starts with "two additional workers" ---
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    32   Q.   Yes?
    33        A.  -- "at the plant confirmed the story"?
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    35   Q.   Yes.  If you just read it to yourself?
    36        A.  Yes.
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    38   Q.   Have you seen that happening?
    39        A.  No.
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    41   Q.   Are you aware of it happening at any of your suppliers?
    42        A.  What do you mean by "our suppliers"?
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    44   Q.   Any of the abattoirs that supply raw materials that are
    45        used by McDonald's?
    46        A.  Well, let me tell you how this statement should be, the
    47        right procedure.  They do not punch a hole.  They carve
    48        outside and they take -----
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    50   Q.   "Carve outside", sorry, can you just explain that? 
    51        A.  They cut outside of the anus and pull out the intestine 
    52        and then they tie a knot.  They do not punch a hole in the 
    53        anus.  That is an incorrect statement.  Now, if -- yes,
    54        that is it.
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    56   Q.   Have you ever seen faeces on the table?
    57        A.  Yes, I have.
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    59   Q.   Have you seen a problem with the line going through so fast
    60        that the meat goes through to the edible section?

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