Day 001 - 28 Jun 94 - Page 60


     
     1   MISS STEEL:  We did not say anything about shiney paper.  We
              have not tried to project ourselves as helpless.  We would
     2        go a long way from saying that.  Mr. Rampton has given a
              misleading impression to the court in respect of the legal
     3        advice we get. The McKenzie friends who with us today are
              pupils.  We have not had continuous legal advice. We have
     4        had advice piecemeal on various occasions.  There is
              nobody helping us legally who has been following this case
     5        from start to finish and is aware of everything that has
              gone on in court.  So despite what he says, we are
     6        disadvantaged.  I think that not providing transcripts as
              soon possible will only further disadvantage us.
     7
         MR. RAMPTON:  I would add this on instructions from
     8        Mrs. Brinley-Codd who speaks on behalf of Mr. Preston,
              that if Morris likes to give back his computer we will
     9        swap the cost of that for the cost of dispatch riders to
              take the transcripts to North London.
    10
         MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    11
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which do you want to those two?
    12
         MR. MORRIS:  I do not think it is an either or, is it?
    13
         MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may well be.
    14
         MR. MORRIS:  I think we are asking for equality with the
    15        McDonald's Corporation, their 24 billion dollars annual
              income, and we are both unwaged.  We are entitled to the
    16        resources in the courtroom they have.  We are entitled to
              computer as an additional tool to us to preparing our
    17        case.  We are entitled to the transcripts.  When I look at
              the transcript of yesterday's hearing, Mr. Rampton said
    18        they would get them round to us as soon as they could when
              they are able to, I think that was the words he used.
    19        Then you said: You will have have them as humanly
              possible; I cannot do better than that.
    20
              So, certainly the impression was yesterday that we had no
    21        need to worry that the technology would not be used as a
              substitute for the transcripts.  That is what I am
    22        concerned about.
 
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When is it anticipated they will be
              available tonight?
    24
         MR. RAMPTON:  I do not know.  They start later at the beginning
    25        of the case and they get earlier as the case progresses.
  
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I cannot see that there will be any 
              disadvantage about tomorrow anyway, because your opening 
    27        matters which the defendants have essentially had notice
              of for a long time.
    28
         MR. RAMPTON:  Nothing in my opening will have taken anybody by
    29        surprise.
 
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I cannot in any event order you or your
              clients to deliver transcripts to the defendants.  I do

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