Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 66
1 Q. That said then, I ask you again, what is the foundation
2 for the statement in your supplemental statement that
3 there is a tragic tendency for young people to eat
4 burgers, a growing tendency, I take it you mean, to eat
5 burgers which is supported by this government report?
6 A. As I recall it, it is from the more general figures
7 given. The trouble is my comments on it were originally
8 made on the comments on the draft report from the
9 Department of Health which did not produce tables in the
10 same formats. I have always had trouble trying to
11 understand their later tables.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Rampton, there is something I wish to
14 ask ----
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16 MS. STEEL: Could I say something?
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: --- when Dr. Lobstein has had an opportunity
19 to consider this question.
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21 MS. STEEL: It appears to me that Mr. Rampton is
22 misinterpreting what is said in the statement. It says "a
23 tragic tendency for younger eaters to be eating larger
24 quantities of fast food". There are then examples, but
25 that does not necessarily mean that -----
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You can make that point, but one of the
28 examples given is burgers, so Mr. Rampton is testing the
29 evidence about that.
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31 MR. RAMPTON: I am after the answer to this question,
32 Dr. Lobstein: I would like to know why you picked out
33 burgers as being two of what you might call the principal
34 villains in this scenario, one of the two principal
35 villains?
36 A. I think that was based on the Peckham study which said
37 that the burgers were the most common thing eaten by those
38 who ate a fast food every day.
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40 Q. What has happened is that you misattributed the authority
41 of that statement?.
42 A. I am not sure I have, because the diets of British
43 School Children draft figures gave two burgers a week
44 eaten by 50 per cent of boys.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I must ask the question now because "burger"
47 can mean two things to me. It can mean a pattie in a bun
48 or it can mean something which comes in packets of four or
49 12 frozen, which is just the pattie itself, which it could
50 be a beefburger, in other words, it could be a chicken
51 burger. What I need to know is when you refer to
52 "burgers" in your statements, are you thinking of the
53 pattie complete with bun, or are you thinking of the round
54 bit of compressed meat which one might put in one's own
55 frying pan or under the grill at home?
56 A. I think ----
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58 Q. Then, secondly, when "burgers" are referred to on page 34
59 what are they referring to?
60 A. I think in the Peckham study we are referring to the
