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     1        from the United States before the end of the weekend; the
     2        same with any explicit reference to the Humane Slaughter
     3        Act in the specifications.
     4
     5        The other task in relation to Costa Rica, I apprehend, is
     6        probably best left until Mr. Cesca's affidavit has been
     7        served and he can deal with it himself but, again, if your
     8        Lordship wishes me do so, I will ask if we can find
     9        anything else before Dr. Gomez Gonzales goes home.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think it would be an advantage, quite
    12        frankly, if Mr. Rampton spoke to Dr. Gomez Gonzales and
    13        asked him, made, as it were, a further check as to whether
    14        there are any other kinds of documents he can think of
    15        which may not so far have been referred to.  The
    16        disadvantage or potential disadvantages for Mr. Rampton
    17        doing that is that you cannot come across it for the first
    18        time in your cross-examination which can be an advantage in
    19        some circumstances.  Quite frankly, in this case I think it
    20        is far outweighed by as soon as possible trying to find out
    21        if there are any other documents.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  I would prefer him not to talk to him.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  In that case, just make enquiries about those
    26        three categories only, Mr. Rampton, which we have already
    27        come across.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  If Mr. Cesca, having searched in South America for
    30        documents, has managed to find any, which I am sure he
    31        could well have done, it may be useful, if he is coming
    32        back Monday morning as has been said, that they are faxed
    33        as early as possible before his deadline for his statement
    34        which has extended in any event, so that both documents
    35        could be faxed before Mr. Gomez leaves the witness box.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All I will say is that if any further
    38        documents are discovered by whomsoever, including
    39        Mr. Cesca, about which Dr. Gomez Gonzales might usefully be
    40        asked by any party, then obviously if they can be got by
    41        Monday, so much the better.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  For all Mr. Morris' sensibilities and whatever he
    44        may think, I am and never have been in the habit of
    45        coaching witness, telling them what to say or suggesting
    46        what they might say.  It may be that I shall need his help,
    47        or Mrs. Brinley-Codd will need his help, in identifying the
    48        sort of documents which he saw and which we, therefore,
    49        might be able to help find before the end of the weekend.
    50        We need to know what it is we are to ask for; only he knows 
    51        what he saw.  I cannot do that otherwise than by asking him 
    52        between now and Monday. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think that falls within the three
    55        categories which we have enumerated.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  In that case, my Lord, I would not certainly say
    58        anything else to him except "good morning" and "good
    59        afternoon".
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