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     1        A.  I must be in the wrong place.
     2
     3   Q.   16 of part 2?
     4        A.  Thank you.  I am with you.
     5
     6   Q.   Part 2, section 16.  This, as I said, comes from a
     7        magazine or journal called Cancer Research and Clinical
     8        Oncology, published by the German company Springer Verlag,
     9        1988.  It is a guest editorial.  If we look at the
    10        asterisk, it takes us down to the bottom of the page and
    11        we see this:  "The 'Journal of Cancer Research and
    12        Clinical Oncology' publishes in loose succession
    13        'Editorials' and 'Guest Editorials' on current and/or
    14        controversial problems in experimental and clinical
    15        oncology.  These contributions represent exclusively the
    16        personal opinion of the author", and the author of this
    17        particular piece, Dr. Barnard, is Sir Richard Doll who is
    18        the Imperial Cancer Research Fund, and so on and so forth,
    19        at Oxford.
    20
    21        He writes an introduction about epidemiology and he says
    22         -- perhaps I will read it by way of introduction:
    23        "Epidemiology, like other branches of medical science,
    24        advances for the most part slowly on a broad front.
    25        Occasionally, however, observations are made that alter
    26        our thinking about the way disease is produced, open up
    27        qualitatively new methods for the control of disease, or
    28        lead to such effective intervention that the results can
    29        be seen in a change in the trend of mortality in a whole
    30        country.  Once such change in thinking" -- can I pause
    31        there, Dr. Barnard, so that we know for the future whether
    32        we are speaking the same language.  By "intervention" do
    33        you understand both preventative and therapeutic
    34        intervention or only the latter?
    35        A.  Sorry, that word appears here?
    36
    37   Q.   The word "intervention", yes.  "Such effective
    38        intervention that the results can be seen in a change in
    39        the trend of mortality in a whole country".  Do you use
    40        the word in both senses?
    41        A.  "Intervention" is a broad enough term that it could
    42        include steps taken for prevention or to alter the course
    43        of disease once it has manifested.
    44
    45   MS. STEEL:  The copy we have has "COPY" across it for some
    46        reason, and it makes it really quite difficult to read
    47        parts of it.  I do not know whether there is another copy
    48        available?
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that on all the pages? 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:  Yes, it is. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  It is on all the references in this file, or most
    55        of them.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  That may be an error.  The reason for it,
    58        I suspect, is this, that so far as the Plaintiffs' own
    59        documents are concerned, the word "COPY" was by leave or,
    60        indeed, may have been a direction that Mr. Justice Drake

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