Day 147 - 04 Jul 95 - Page 34


     
     1        note.  I cannot see any reason on earth why we should not
     2        have it.
     3
     4        As I said to your Lordship this morning, it was offered to
     5        the Defendants in the belief that they would use it in good
     6        faith.  They can still have it, but only so long as it does
     7        not contain any means of printing out what it contains.  By
     8        that means, that whole question is of course by-passed.  In
     9        other words, the undertaking which I have asked for is not
    10        a condition of the continued use of CaseView on the screen,
    11        but only of the provision of the disk which enables its
    12        contents to be printed out at the end of the day.  That is
    13        obvious, because if I remove the transcripts then,
    14        obviously, if I do not remove the disk from CaseView as
    15        well, that is just another source for disinformation.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  What I suggest, Ms. Steel, is that you
    18        take the opportunity to make a phone call now.  I will ask
    19        for the court to be cleared, and I will stay here and give
    20        a little thought to the matter, in the hope that I might
    21        then give judgment later this afternoon.
    22
    23        What I would like you to do -- I will not sit before
    24        quarter to three again, anyway -- but as soon as you are
    25        ready to continue, will you let Mr. Riley know.  If you are
    26        not ready at quarter to three, I would like you to let
    27        Mr. Riley know, or ask Mr. Morris to give him a message as
    28        to how much time you would like, and I will send a message
    29        back with Mr. Riley.
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  Can I ask one question?  I made an interruption to
    32        Mr. Rampton when he made a personal slur on me.  Is it not
    33        appropriate for the court to ask Mr. Rampton not to make
    34        puerile, personal attacks on my domestic life, or whatever,
    35        because if he is going to do so I am going to make a very
    36        strong and vicious attack on him and his position.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I did not understand him to be making a
    39        personal -- refer me to it.
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:  He was referring to both of us, and I am equally
    42        offended by what he said.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  He said something about hard work, which we are
    45        resistant to.   I have spent five years of my life fighting
    46        this case and looking after a six year old boy -- he is now
    47        six -- thanks to McDonald's trying to suppress criticisms
    48        in this country.  It is very, very hard work.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Morris, find it for me, please. 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:  It is page 29. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  I do not have "menials", as Mr. Rampton calls them,
    55        to chase around for him.  I do not get œ2,000 a day for
    56        coming here.  I get nothing for coming here.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  In so far as you were suggesting that there
    59        was a resistance to hard work by either of the Defendants,
    60        I would refute that, Mr. Rampton.  I had not understood you

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