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     1        company?
     2        A.  Yes, at that time.
     3
     4   Q.   Who else did you meet later?
     5        A.  I met one of the operatives.
     6
     7   Q.   Who was that?
     8        A.  Alan Sclare.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Alan?
    11        A.  Sclare, I think his name was.
    12
    13   Q.   Clare?
    14        A.  Sclare.  I am sorry, yes.  I confuse his name with
    15        someone else I know, another Sclare.  Clare.  Alan Clare.
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:  When was it you met Alan Clare?
    18        A.  Towards the end of the observation.  They were the...
    19        No, I beg your pardon, he was not Kings, he was the other
    20        company.  So, I did not meet anyone else from Kings at
    21        all.  Hartley was the only person I met from Kings.
    22
    23   Q.   OK.  When was it you first spoke to Bishops?
    24        A.  I think the date was 2nd October, it was early October.
    25
    26   Q.   Who was it you spoke to there?
    27        A.  Spears.
    28
    29   Q.   Is that Mr. Spears?
    30        A.  Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   Was he the managing director?
    33        A.  He was a director, I do not think he was the managing
    34        director.  But I had met him before.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL: He was your choice was he?
    37        A.  Yes, he was.
    38
    39   MS. STEEL:   Do you know what the full name of the Bishops
    40        company is, because there are two firms called Bishops?
    41        A.  I did.  I mean, I got their headed notepaper but
    42        I cannot remember what they call themselves -- Bishops
    43        Investigations perhaps, I do not know.
    44
    45   Q.   Right.  So you had spoken to these companies before the
    46        picket on 16th October 1989?
    47        A.  Yes.
    48
    49   Q.   Do you know which private investigators were working for
    50        which company? 
    51        A.  No.  Apart from Clare. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We need the 5-minute break about now.  If you
    54        wan to ask another question do, but otherwise we will take
    55        it now.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:   That is OK.
    58
    59                          (Short adjournment)
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