Day 306 - 26 Nov 96 - Page 29
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So, in so far as the A5 leaflet was also a
3 Veggies leaflet, that, you say, is the evidence of its
4 origins, is it?
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6 MS. STEEL: I am not sure I understand that question.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, I thought Mr. Smith said that Veggies
9 produced an A5 leaflet as well. Printed just on both
10 sides.
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12 MS. STEEL: I mean, as you saw the other day, there was one
13 from Manchester, there are groups all over the country.
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15 MR JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I know, but they are not very, very
16 different with the various copies I have seen.
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18 MS. STEEL: I don't know. From Mr. Gravett's evidence it
19 appears that the first A5 leaflet that was done was for
20 Hackney and Islington Animal Rights, and that was then
21 adapted for use by London Greenpeace. I don't know whether
22 or not Veggies did their own version or whether they copied
23 that one, to be honest.
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25 MR. MORRIS: I think Mr. Smith explained that Veggies had a
26 printing service for groups round the country and they were
27 the main distributors of A5 leaflets.
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29 MR JUSTICE BELL: I remember that. What I have not recalled at
30 this stage, that Mr. Gravett had written a short A5 leaflet
31 for Hackney and Islington Animal Rights; that is on page 4
32 of 272, is it?
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34 MS. STEEL: Yes. I have also got a reference of 272, page 57,
35 line 40, which I presume it was referred to again at that
36 stage during cross-examination, or something.
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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40 MS. STEEL: I have not got a reference for this but it must be
41 somewhere around. I should think, page 4 or 5 of day 272,
42 because it folds on after that, that he said that somebody
43 else could have brought some fact sheets but he would not
44 have handed out the fact sheets on the demonstration as
45 suggested by Mr. Nicholson, and he also said that Veggies
46 sometimes came to the head office pickets and that they may
47 have brought some of their leaflets to the pickets. I
48 shall find the specific reference to that, seeing as that
49 is what you were asking me. (Pause)
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51 Day 272, page 5, line 8, question, "Did Veggies people
52 sometimes attend pickets of head office?" Answer, "Yes,
53 they did. They did used to come down from time to time and
54 they may have brought some of their leaflets with them."
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56 Mr. Gravett said that he could not remember ever seeing a
57 copy of the fact sheet on the 1989 picket. That was day
58 273, page 2, line 41. He said on day 273, pages 20 to 21,
59 that if Helen had been handing out the fact sheet
60 throughout the picket, or a substantial part he would
