Day 033 - 10 Oct 94 - Page 59
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2 Q. I am going to move on to specific documents. I do not
3 know how I am going to organise this now. May I have a
4 couple of minutes?
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You can -- I will not leave court. You are
7 going to refer to some of the papers or publications which
8 are already in and some of the ones anyway on the list of
9 Defence documents which you handed in this morning? What
10 are you proposing to do?
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12 MR. MORRIS: What I am proposing to do, just because the sheer
13 administrative task was too great, was to pick up the file
14 with the 80 references and just very quickly flick through
15 them 1, 2, 3, 4, and say: As we are going through point
16 out the ones which you want the court to particularly
17 notice, or something like that, rather than look at every
18 document. I do not know which ones the witness thinks are
19 the most crucial to look at?
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21 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, presumably those are the ones referred
22 to in his statement. They all are in one sense.
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24 MR. MORRIS: They are all.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I had assumed they are. I have to say that
27 I have looked at as we have been through the evidence,
28 obviously wherever a witness has been referred to an
29 article, I have marked whatever has been read out. So
30 that when I go through them again, I will look at that
31 again. Some of them I have read a bit more widely, but
32 what I have not done, whenever I have been given a bundle
33 of references, is just taken it home and read it from the
34 beginning to end, because if I did that it might turn out
35 I was wasting quite a lot of my time because neither side
36 is relying on every single line and every single
37 reference.
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39 MR. MORRIS: That is why I -----
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I am rather reluctant about is the idea
42 that you should just put a vast bundle, a considerable
43 bundle of references in front of Dr. Barnard and say: "Go
44 through that and tell us what you think supports what you
45 have said". There must be a more efficient way of doing
46 it. To some extent, you can leave Mr. Rampton to
47 cross-examine, in so far as he chooses to, on the
48 references or some of them.
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50 MR. MORRIS: I thought the most expedient way of doing it would
51 be just to, as I say, flip through them until Dr. Barnard
52 said: "I would like you to stop at this one, No. 6 and
53 I will refer you to this particular paragraph or
54 whatever".
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which bundle are you thinking of, orange IV?
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58 MR. MORRIS: I do not know.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Have you got them all in one bundle? Orange
