Day 148 - 05 Jul 95 - Page 44


     
     1   MS. STEEL:  They would all be privileged anyway.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.  You can claim privilege, if you like.
     4        You list the documents and claim privilege for them.  What
     5        I suggest you do is take some advice on what the normal
     6        form is.  All you are being asked to do is follow the
     7        normal procedure, get yourselves, if you do not already
     8        have it, a copy of the normal printed form of list which
     9        has different parts to it, the documents which you think
    10        fall into different categories.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  I think it should be borne in mind if any ruling is
    13        made on this that we only have limited hours in the day,
    14        and time spent on one thing is time not spent on something
    15        else.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   That may be, but do not forget I do not know
    18        what documentation you have.  For all I know, your list may
    19        have one document on it or 500 documents on it.  I just do
    20        not know.
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  While we are on the subject, just in
    23        passing, there is something we wanted to bring up regarding
    24        Mr. Rampton's wild claim last week, or the week before
    25        last, that the statement issued publicly by the Defendants
    26        on the anniversary of the trial contained lies; that
    27        Mr. Rampton should either withdraw that remark or he should
    28        specify exactly what statement in it, which line, what
    29        wording, is lies.  If he does that, we will bring
    30        documentary evidence to refute their claim.  That is, he
    31        should withdraw it otherwise because people should not make
    32        wild claims, as I have been told, unless they are willing
    33        to back them up, which I have done.
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  Should I respond to that, my Lord?
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  This is supposed to be an interlocutory
    38        hearing ---
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  I understand.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   -- into applications for various kinds of
    43        interlocutory relief.  Just let it pass, Mr. Rampton.  I am
    44        sure you have plenty you would like to say.
    45
    46   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  The only observation I make was that
    47        I made those remarks in chambers, such remarks as I made --
    48        not in open court.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  They are still in front of ----- 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When I said we should go into open court, 
    53        I said some restraint must be shown by the parties.  The
    54        restraint which must be shown is primarily this, that let
    55        us deal with the interlocutory matters on which I have to
    56        make a decision rather than arguments about whether someone
    57        has behaved properly or otherwise in relation to matters
    58        which I do not have to decide among the interlocutory
    59        applications.  Let us get through those.
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