Day 193 - 28 Nov 95 - Page 12


     
     1        his card back if he wanted to?
     2        A.  No, I did not.
     3
     4   Q.   Did you recruit Steve Fox?
     5        A.  I believe I did.
     6
     7   Q.   Tell us what grade he was in; same one as you?
     8        A.  He was in the same grade as I was.
     9
    10   Q.   Did he telephone you the same night as you recruited him,
    11        towards the end of September, and ask for his card back?
    12        A.  No.
    13
    14   Q.   He did not?
    15        A.  No.
    16
    17   Q.   Do you remember being angry that Kristian de Haus wanted
    18        his card back?
    19        A.  Of course I was upset.  Kristian had flip-flopped on
    20        me.  He had signed and then he had said, "No, I want my
    21        card back", and then he said, "No, keep it."  Then, after
    22        I had submitted the cards to Rui, he said, "Well, I am not
    23        too sure about this any more."  I said, "Listen, I do not
    24        have your card.  I cannot do anything about it.  Here is
    25        Rui's phone number.  You can call him and, you know,
    26        whatever you want to do."  But that situation was out of my
    27        hands.
    28
    29   Q.   Was Mr. Amorim with you on some of these occasions when
    30        people were signed up?
    31        A.  Not really; maybe on two or three, but not -- no, not
    32        usually.
    33
    34   Q.   Are you saying that Steve Fox never asked for his card
    35        back?
    36        A.  I am saying that.
    37
    38   Q.   It follows that you did not tell him: "It is too late.
    39        They went in on 20th September"?
    40        A.  I did not say that.  How would I have been able to say
    41        that if I had had a conversation with Michelle?  I mean, if
    42        he wanted his card back, he would have been able to call
    43        Rui, because if you are saying, you know -- if I signed
    44        Michelle up on the 27th, he would still have been able to
    45        call Rui; and I would have told him that, had he asked me
    46        for his card back, but he did not.
    47
    48   Q.   Did you sign up Carl Peterson?  (Pause)  Let me give you
    49        some detail; maybe it will remind you: after the close at
    50        about two in the morning, in your car, where you made a 
    51        presentation to him, a speech.  Do you remember that? 
    52        A.  I do not remember the situation quite that well.  I did 
    53        not know him that well.
    54
    55   Q.   So you would not remember telling him that he would get an
    56        automatic five to 10 per cent increase?
    57        A.  I never promised that to anyone.  I told them the only
    58        thing that is guaranteed is job security, dignity and
    59        respect, and that all other aspects would have to be
    60        negotiated.

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