Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 18


     
     1        another Manager at the same level saying that mark had told
     2        him that they should keep labour costs down to 14 per cent
     3        of the total sale at tonight's shift.  I can't remember
     4        when this happened.
     5
     6        6. Revenue every hour.  I know that takings were calculated
     7        every hour - that is all I know.
     8
     9        7.  Dismissals.  I don't think this happened.  However,
    10        I remember one Manager saying to sally, another Floor
    11        Manager:  "If the store is not busy and there are too many
    12        workers on, send some people home".  I saw her go round but
    13        no-one wanted to go home so she went back to the First
    14        Manager and told him this.  He said:  "Pick on crew members
    15        whose uniform is dirty or if not clean shaven - give an
    16        excuse'.  This happened in about June 1987".  When you say
    17        "First Manager" -----
    18        A.  This is First Assistant Manager, yes.
    19
    20   Q.  "8. Hostility to Trade Unions".
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you mean that or just the First Manager
    23        that you have mentioned in the paragraph?  I say, do you
    24        mean it, because you did not write it; someone else has
    25        written it for you.  So, are you actually saying that the
    26        Manager who spoke to Sally was a First Assistant or can you
    27        not really remember now?
    28        A.  I mean, it is such a long time ago when I wrote this
    29        statement, but -----
    30
    31   Q.   I would read the paragraph as just First Manager meaning
    32        the one Manager saying to Sally, because that is the First
    33        Manager mentioned in the paragraph.  Can you remember one
    34        way or the other whether it was a First Assistant?
    35        A.  I could not tell.
    36
    37   Q.   It does not matter.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  Do you remember if it was an Assistant Manager
    40        though?
    41        A.  On that particular time -- I mean, I have a picture of
    42        a day when it happened and the First Assistant Manager was
    43        there, and this happened, but whether what I am referring,
    44        the day I am referring to in my statement is the same day
    45        or not, I am not sure.  But the day I have got in my mind
    46        it was, yes, the First Assistant Manager was in charge and
    47        he did say that.
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:  "8.  Hostility to Trade Unions.  I do not know any
    50        particular examples but there was generally", I think you 
    51        wanted something ----- 
    52        A.  Yes, generally a fear of McDonald's reaction to unions, 
    53        it should read, rather than unions itself.
    54
    55   Q.   By crew members?
    56        A.  By crew members.
    57
    58   Q.   I do not know whether it is worth he reading out (9)
    59        because it does not make much sense on its known.
    60

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