Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 71


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  Can I add this so that the Defendants can tell
     3        Mr. Hall.  This I did not have a chance to explain to him.
     4        I told him, I think, and I say it now -- I repeat it --
     5        that the basis on which the notes which have been disclosed
     6        have been blanked out was relevance only.  That was so at
     7        stage one.  It was so at stage two after the Defendants
     8        -----
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    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I can see it might be difficult to argue
    11        non-waiver there if a lot of the note has gone in.
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    13   MR. RAMPTON:  The second thing is this.  We were careful, even
    14        where we included stuff that was marginally relevant, we
    15        were quite careful not to include anything which was
    16        obviously irrelevant but which might embarrass the
    17        Defendants, and I say that sincerely, not because your
    18        Lordship will be prejudiced by it -- that thought did not
    19        even actually enter our heads -- but because if notice were
    20        given to it in open court, we know, for example, that
    21        Ms. Steel is sensitive about her telephone number.  That
    22        was one reason why that was originally blanked out.
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    24   MR. MORRIS:  Blanked out -- that is rubbish.
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    26   MS. STEEL:  Can I say -----
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not want to go into the argument any
    29        further now.  We will start with a clean field on
    30        Thursday.  My only point in raising this is to make sure
    31        someone tells Mr. Hall, because I know from my own
    32        experience if you come into something which has been
    33        running this long it is jolly difficult to get hold of all
    34        the points that may arise and he may not be aware of that
    35        one.  That is all.
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    37   MS. STEEL:  Right.  If I just say in respect of what Mr. Rampton
    38        has just said, if there are parts that might be -----
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have said that before, that you will not
    41        be embarrassed.
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    43   MS. STEEL:  Not about my phone number.  If I say that if that is
    44        their concern, then they can just disclose them to us and
    45        then it is up to us whether we want to refer to them and,
    46        if we do, then you can have copies.  But, I mean, you have
    47        actually said on previous occasions that, you know, you do
    48        not look at things unless you are directed to look at
    49        them.  Say, for example, with regards to the rest of the
    50        notes, you do not need to have a copy unless we do want to 
    51        refer to them. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, you have made your point about that.
    54        What you are saying is if the blanking out is for reasons
    55        of your sensitivity, then you say you would like to see it
    56        and then you can decide whether you want it in the bundle
    57        or not.
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    59   MR. RAMPTON:  I would not have blanked out anything that was
    60        relevant on the grounds of sensitivity.  I would not be

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