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     1   MR. RAMPTON:  You had him, my Lord, on training and how -----
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I see, yes, but I have not got any further
     4        statement here from him?
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     6   MR. RAMPTON:  No, you have not, no.  We have not had time to do
     7        that.
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You want to recall Mr. Atherton, do you?
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    11   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, more particularly, for the reason that
    12        the first we knew when Mr. Coton got into the witness box
    13        Mr. Atherton was supposed to have been at a number of these
    14        meetings in July or August 1991.  If he is going to deal
    15        with those meetings, he can also, perhaps appropriately,
    16        deal with the broader question of this alleged pressure and
    17        what it may have led to, because he was Mr. Davis'
    18        Supervisor when Mr. Davis was himself Area Supervisor.
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    20        Mr. Skehel can also deal with those meetings and Mr. Tim
    21        Taylor can make a Civil Evidence Act statement about them.
    22        It appears now that Mr. Andy Taylor was dropped out of the
    23        frame, so I do not propose him.
    24
    25        There is also mentioned today for the first time
    26        Mr. Guerin, I think his name was, who is also supposed to
    27        have been at some of these meetings.  My Lord, those are
    28        possibilities, but I would contemplate, if your Lordship
    29        gave me leave, calling Mr. Skehel and Mr. Atherton for that
    30        purpose, because they can give relevant evidence on other
    31        parts of the new evidence.
    32
    33        The only thing that I have not touched on is the question
    34        which your Lordship asked yesterday.  I would not myself
    35        volunteer this, in the sense I do not think I am entitled
    36        to, which is the question of what the turnover was when
    37        Mr. Davis was the Manager.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, the only reason I mentioned it was that
    40        if it was being said that turnover was high under Mr. Coton
    41        because he was such a lousy Manager, it would be
    42        interesting to see whether what turnover was under
    43        Mr. Davis so that one could see whether it was the way
    44        Mr. Coton treated his Managers or whether the Defendants
    45        could argue it was the system which they did not like.
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    47   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But if the figures are not available, I
    50        am  ----- 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not know whether they are or not; all I can 
    53        tell your Lordship is that I have not found them in
    54        Mr. Davis' performance reviews when he was Manager.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is obviously the reason why I raised
    57        it.
    58
    59   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, I understand that.   No, I understood it at
    60        the time.  If Mr. Davis is going to come back, then that is

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