Day 088 - 13 Feb 95 - Page 28
1 Q. Is it more enriched with proteins and stuff like that?
2 A. In actual fact, that will be less protein.
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4 Q. Less protein?
5 A. Yes.
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7 Q. More carbohydrate?
8 A. Yes.
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10 Q. Do you find any problem within these finishing units of
11 aggression, fighting, matters of that kind?
12 A. If you keep the pigs in their peer groups as they come
13 from the breeding units to the kennels, no, you will not.
14 But if you, you know, unfortunately, sometimes you have to
15 have a few pigs over and there can be a number of pigs,
16 then what you have to mix at the end of a piggery very
17 occasionally -- it does not happen very often -- but then
18 again if you make sure that they have got plenty of straw
19 to occupy themselves, the aggression is very, very small
20 and limited.
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22 Q. By what means are they transported from the finishing unit
23 to the factory?
24 A. By our-----
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26 Q. Another one of those?
27 A. By our lorries.
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29 Q. When they get to the slaughterhouse they are unloaded and
30 are they kept overnight, ever?
31 A. Occasionally.
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33 Q. In what sort of conditions?
34 A. Strawed conditions.
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36 Q. Food?
37 A. Yes, food, water, as per norm. The vet will insist
38 upon that. May I just go back, if I may, please, sir, to
39 the question you asked me about aggression in pigs in the
40 piggery?
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42 Q. Yes.
43 A. There is one area that has been over-looked and that is
44 that if a pig is ill, aggression will start because that is
45 nature's way of eliminating that pig.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Aggression from the others, you mean?
48 A. Yes.
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50 MR. RAMPTON: The others will pick on it?
51 A. That is correct, and that is where our stockmen then
52 have to take the remedial course in taking the pig out.
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54 Q. I am going to ask you about your stockmen in a moment.
55 They get to the slaughterhouse, the factory, and they are
56 unloaded, sometimes they may be kept overnight, and you
57 told us on straw and clean water, is it a covered facility?
58 A. Yes, it is.
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60 Q. All this time, so far as possible, are they still in their
