Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 65


     
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     2   Q.   So that some of the things in your statement would just be
     3        things that you presumed the case?
     4        A.   Well, the meeting commenced, from recollection, at
     5        7.30 pm.
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     7   Q.   That particular meeting?
     8        A.   I cannot recall that particular meeting.
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    10   Q.   No.  Would you have been able to recall it when you made
    11        your statement three years later?
    12        A.   It would more than likely have started at that time.
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    14   Q.   Right.  So you assumed it.  So you thought it was OK to put
    15        in it your statement?
    16        A.   When the statement was made, that is, yes, that is
    17        what I thought the time would have been.
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    19   Q.   So you had absolutely no knowledge about whether or not
    20        this was, in fact, true?
    21        A.   It would have been, the probabilities of it being 7.30
    22        would have been very, very strong.
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    24   Q.   Right.  So, basically, it comes down to that you just
    25        presumed it was 7.30?
    26        A.  There is no mention in my original notes, no.
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    28   Q.   And the leaflet that is behind your statement, you cannot
    29        positively identify that as one that you picked up, can
    30        you?
    31        A.   Sorry?  There is not a leaflet.
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    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think it has gone.  I have kept mine behind
    34        the statement because I find it easier to refer to, but I
    35        think it may have gone into the notes.  I do not know
    36        whether that is so, in fact, the note bundle.
    37        A.   No, my Lord.
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    39   MS. STEEL:  I do not know where it is if it is not.
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    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is AC2.  It may not be...  It is AC4.  So,
    42        the notes were AC4.
    43        A.   Sorry.  AC2.
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    45   MS. STEEL:  You have a copy there?
    46        A.  Yes, AC2.
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But that is in relation to the 18th January
    49        1990 meeting.  I think what Miss Steel is asking you, your
    50        statement, when it gets to paragraph 10, relating to the 
    51        18th January meeting, says there are a number of leaflets 
    52        taken by some of those in attendance, including the leaflet 
    53        complained of.  "I also took a copy of the leaflet a copy
    54        of which is annexed hereto".  Appendix AC2 and AC2 is the
    55        leaflet complained of in this case?
    56        A.   Yes, sir.
    57
    58   Q.   Now, would you like to ask your question again Miss Steel?
    59        Do you want to ask the question again?
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