Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 28


     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you ask a question in future along these
     5        lines: "Are you sure that X, Y and Z happened", my normal
     6        inference from that was that you are not accepting that it
     7        did, but you cannot put positive evidence one way or the
     8        other.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness)  Are you absolutely sure it was me
    11        that was on the other end of the phone speaking to Marion?
    12        A.  No, I cannot be sure.  That was the impression that
    13        I gained.
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    15   Q.   Right.  You said the impression you gained was that it was
    16        me, and that I was trying to change the content of the
    17        public meeting to a subject that I wanted discussed.  Then
    18        you say: "It was generally felt that if he wished to do
    19        this, he should turn up at weekly meetings in person."  So,
    20        are you saying there that what happened was that people
    21        said, effectively: "If he wants something done, he should
    22        be here in person.  It is a bit of a cheek phoning in
    23        saying, you know" -----
    24        A.  It was felt that if you wanted to influence the content
    25        of meetings, that you should turn up and say so in person.
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    27   Q.   So, was the general drift of it that they would stick to
    28        what people had agreed at the previous meeting about the
    29        public meeting?
    30        A.  I cannot remember what was agreed at the end of it,
    31        whether the content of the following meeting was changed or
    32        not.  To my recollection, the suggestion of anarchy versus
    33        socialism was not accepted and did not take place.
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    35   Q.   Just very briefly on these notes:  you said, in the next
    36        paragraph, that there was a physical move planned for
    37        London Greenpeace office, within the building, to another
    38        part of the building?
    39        A.  Yes.
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    41   Q.   In the next paragraph: "Anthony" -- who is Mr. Pocklington,
    42        presumably, yes -- "stated he would be available some time
    43        during next week to come to the office and answer letters.
    44        It seems that there are several people available for this
    45        purpose."
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    47        Was it your recollection that quite a few people had keys
    48        to the office and that new people would be able to get keys
    49        if they got involved?
    50        A.  It was certainly my impression that several people had 
    51        keys to the office.  I cannot say that I knew that new 
    52        people would be given keys. 
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    54   Q.   You did not know whether Anthony was new or not?
    55        A.  No, I did not.
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    57   Q.   But it seemed that people were quite happy for him to have
    58        a key, so he could come in and answer letters?
    59        A.  It would appear so.
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