Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 36


     
     1        confusing at that stage in that case, but what is -----
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     3   MR. MORRIS:   I will get to the bit where he -----
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Was it ever actually put to a witness that
     6        all you have to do to get the sustainable area is find out
     7        the area of actual trees or brush cut down and then
     8        multiply it by the year cycle in order to get it, because I
     9        don't remember it being put and I would have been very
    10        surprised if it had been so simple.
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    12   MR. MORRIS:   I mean...  Yes.  Actually I have nearly finished,
    13        so we can relax as regards finishing today.
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    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Well, you can either look at it now or you
    16        can come back at some other time.  I am not going to call
    17        on anyone to do anything more this afternoon when you and
    18        Ms. Steel have finished with recycling and waste.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:   I am trying to get the right reference.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   By all means look for it now if you want to.
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    24   MR. MORRIS:   Yes, I am sure we can get it out the way.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, very well.  (Pause).
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:   I think there is enough evidence on this issue to
    29        be able to draw basic conclusions from it.  (Pause)
    30        Basically, pages 43 to 46.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   This is day 58 still, is it?
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:   Yes.  Sorry, day 56.  At the end of page 46,
    35        basically.  It was confusing, he did not set a figure
    36        exactly, but he said that if you had an 80 year cycle and
    37        you had 80 times the area because of that-----
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me just-----
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:   Line 48, he said that 112 square miles on his 1.42
    42        square miles, which is eighty times the figure, would give
    43        him a healthy leeway in terms of areas of forest
    44        sustainable.
    45
    46   MR JUSTICE BELL:  Hold on a minute.  Let me just look.  (Pause)
    47        Look at the bottom of page 45.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:   Yes, I know.  You see, I asked him in the middle
    50        of page 46, "What are you saying, do you need a somewhat 
    51        smaller area than 112 miles?  It could be somewhat 
    52        smaller?"  Answer, "Yes".  I suggested 80 square miles, he 
    53        said it would be nice to have 112 square miles to ensure
    54        you had a multi-purpose forest and to ensure
    55        sustainability.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   That is all you need.  The greater area of
    58        forest you have to satisfy a certain demand, the -----
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:   He did not say, 'Oh no, blimey, you don't need a

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