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     1        human consumption and so on, does that mean he takes one
     2        specimen from a number of carcasses or cuts or whatever it
     3        is that is being looked at?
     4        A.  Are we now talking about hormones?  Have you gone back
     5        there, sir?
     6
     7   Q.   If you do a microbiological test for E. coli, for instance?
     8        A.  That is a microbiological test from each combo which is
     9        1,400 pounds.
    10
    11   Q.   So he takes a cut of the combo?
    12        A.  He takes a core sample, sir.  Can you imagine giant
    13        cheese corer with about a two-inch diameter with a motor
    14        driving it, and it cuts right down and takes a column out
    15        of it, a full sample.  He then macerates that to get an
    16        even distribution and checks that.  In these terms, testing
    17        these batches, that is a 2,000 pound batch in a a Z-armed
    18        grinder, grinder mixer.
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I have now been handed, I expect you
    21        recognise this document, a McKey Service brochure really.
    22        It is very difficult for us without everybody having one.
    23        You are going to be here, I think at any rate, tomorrow,
    24        Mr. Walker, perhaps on Friday.  Could you get from
    25        headquarters -- will McDonald's have some of these, do you
    26        think?
    27        A.  No.  I can get some.
    28
    29   Q.   You can get some sent down for us?
    30        A.  Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   I will pass it round.
    33        A.  There are two in that set.  There is that one and there
    34        is a quality control one as well.
    35
    36   Q.   This is about your partnership with McDonald's?
    37        A.  Yes.  You would like some sent down?
    38
    39   Q.   I think everybody would like to see them probably.
    40        I should have thought of it before.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Shall we take our break there?
    43
    44   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord.  Perhaps the Defendants would like
    45        to have look at it.
    46
    47                       (Short Adjournment).
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  Do we know what date that document is?
    50 
    51   MR. RAMPTON:  Date, any idea what date it is?  I can tell you it 
    52        is post September 1989. 
    53        A.  If I could see it, sir, I might see something which
    54        will allow me to date it, but interestingly enough I would
    55        have thought it was before that.  It was just a brochure we
    56        did.
    57
    58   Q.   I just noticed a date in September 1989.  It may have been
    59        a prediction rather than a report, so it may be wrong.
    60        A.  It must have been after 1991.

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