Day 138 - 20 Jun 95 - Page 78
1 Q. Is he effective?
2 A. Yes, he is. He is managing those stores very well.
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4 Q. In your time at McDonald's have you come across any other
5 such cases?
6 A. That is the worse one. There have been some other
7 situations, maybe a handful, that would approach that
8 situation. It happens from time to time.
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10 Q. Do you deal with them as they happen?
11 A. Yes, we do.
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13 Q. What is the Company's feeling about licensees,
14 owner/operators, that violate the Child Labour laws? Is it
15 something the Company is comfortable with?
16 A. We will not countenance it. That is something that we
17 just do not want to see happen.
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19 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have reached the end of my
20 examination-in-chief as it happens, save only for this and
21 it may not arise. The Mexican video tapes I think have
22 been transcribed. I have not looked at them and I would
23 like the opportunity of doing that this evening so as to
24 decide whether or not some stage, perhaps tomorrow morning,
25 I would like to show them as part of my case. I regret
26 that. I do not know whether your Lordship was going to ask
27 the Defendants o start cross-examining today anyway. If
28 not, then perhaps nothing much is lost.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will talk to Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris about
31 that in a moment. Would it not be reasonable to wait and
32 see whether Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris actually challenge
33 Mr. Stein's account of what was going on in and around the
34 store on the evening in question? If they challenge
35 Mr. Stein's account then, provided they have been given an
36 opportunity to see the film and subject to anything they
37 want to argue, I suggest that the film could then be shown
38 at some stage during cross-examination so they can ask any
39 questions, rather than just leaving it to re-examination
40 when the cross-examination has finished.
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42 MR. RAMPTON: I had not thought about it. I will, if I may,
43 look at them tonight. There are two, one of which is ----
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If there is not a challenge to what Mr. Stein
46 has said about the three union officer supporters and what
47 they were doing, there is really not much point in showing
48 the film.
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50 MR. RAMPTON: I am also concerned that the Defendants are
51 entitled to inspection. That does not mean that I am under
52 any obligation to hand the tapes over. What it means is
53 that the Defendants have a right to come and see them in
54 the offices of Barlow Lyde and Gilbert.
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56 That said, what I would like to do is to look at them
57 myself this evening -- one of them, I believe, is not
58 relevant but I would like to look at them both -- and then
59 tomorrow give them to the Defendants. They will have
60 plenty of time because Mr. Stein will be here for
