Day 124 - 10 May 95 - Page 23


     
     1        to go on to management, we usually had very little
     2        suspicion that that person had a problem, but we did not
     3        discriminate between that person and a person coming from
     4        the outside in not taking the test.
     5
     6        If it was a policy to have members of management take the
     7        polygraph test, and that is what it was called, the
     8        polygraph test, then whether the individuals came up
     9        through the ranks or they came from the outside, they would
    10        have to take it.  We did not discriminate between the two.
    11
    12   Q.   Were they also asked about things like their attitude to
    13        the Company and the progress of the Company and things like
    14        that?
    15        A.  No, that was not pertinent.
    16
    17   Q.   So you say that they were only asked in all lie detector
    18        tests that you ever knew anything about, although you were
    19        not sitting in on them, questions about incidents of
    20        dishonesty?
    21        A.  Incidents of dishonesty, yes.  I am trying to think if
    22        there would be anything else.  That is pretty much the
    23        extent of it.  You know, there might have been questions on
    24        there about:  "Have you ever broken any laws?  Have you
    25        ever committed a felony?"  That kind of thing.
    26
    27   Q.   That would be the general questions for people going up to
    28        management?
    29        A.  Right.
    30
    31   Q.   But that would not take 20 minutes, would it?
    32        A.  I would not say 20 minutes, about half an hour.  I
    33        mean, you know, it was not -- I have taken them myself.
    34        I was put through a full polygraph test and, as I recall,
    35        I might have been there half an hour, maybe 20 minutes is a
    36        bit brief, but certainly half an hour.
    37
    38   Q.   What was it, continual questions about whether you had ever
    39        taken money out of a till, whether you had ever broken the
    40        law speeding through traffic lights or like a whole run of
    41        questions like that or what?
    42        A.  Have you ever, you know, taken any money before, or
    43        have you ever stolen anything?  Have you broken the law?
    44        Have you ever done anything that would disgrace, you know,
    45        the Company that you worked for?  That kind of thing.
    46
    47   Q.   So that would come into the aspect of attitude, your
    48        attitude towards the Company and work and things like that?
    49        A.  No.  At least, that was not what I gleaned from that
    50        happening.  Being the interviewee, my interpretation of 
    51        that question was:  Did I engage in behaviour that would 
    52        have embarrassed my employer?  For instance, did I go out 
    53        and do scandalous things that would become public
    54        knowledge, that would embarrass McDonald's?
    55
    56   Q.   What, like giving away secret Company information or
    57        something like that?
    58        A.  No.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As I understand what you are saying, whether

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