Day 060 - 02 Dec 94 - Page 26
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2 Q. Right.
3 A. So I would imagine sometime in late 1986.
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5 Q. So, you do not remember being aware of it in August 1986?
6 A. Not specifically, no.
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8 Q. But you think by October 1986 you were aware of it?
9 A. I said late 1986. I honestly do not know when I read
10 the article which related back to that press conference.
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12 Q. But, at any rate, by the time you found out you had already
13 introduced CFCs into McDonald's packaging?
14 A. Yes. That decision would have been taken probably a
15 year prior to that.
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17 Q. You said it was in July 1987, I think, that you decided to
18 phase out CFCs?
19 A. That was when I met with Lin Pac and instructed them to
20 phase out.
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22 Q. You said in your statement: "However as evidence started
23 to emerge that CFCs might be a contributing factor to ozone
24 depletion McDonald's took the decision, in about September
25 1988, to cease using CFCs and we returned to using pentane
26 as a blowing agent."
27 A. Where are we now?
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In paragraph 19, just below the sentence
30 which started all this about there being no concern in
31 1986. If you read on after that sentence.
32 A. That is clearly a mistake -- September 1988?
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
35 A. Yes, that is wrong.
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37 MS. STEEL: That is wrong. So, when are you saying it was that
38 you made a decision?
39 A. I instructed Lin Pac in July 1987. We implemented the
40 change in July 1988.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is the correspondence we looked at
43 yesterday.
44 A. Yes. There was a time line from Lin Pac documented to
45 meetings in November; they gave deadlines for March of 1988
46 and April 1988 to start trials in the restaurants.
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48 MS. STEEL: So, as soon as you became concerned about CFCs, you
49 contacted Lin Pac in York, or did you leave it for some
50 time before you contacted them?
51 A. As I explained yesterday, I had discussions with the
52 senior management in McDonald's.
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54 Q. Right. When would that have been?
55 A. That would have been early in 1987. I was given the go
56 ahead to instruct Lin Pac by the summer of 1987, which
57 I did.
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59 Q. You do not remember when?
60 A. When I was given the go ahead?
