Day 117 - 27 Apr 95 - Page 44


     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  It may be none of the documents will be used in
     3        cross-examination and that will be no problem.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It may be?
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     7   MR. MORRIS:  It may be none of the documents will be the ones we
     8        intend to use in cross-examination.
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    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you think you may want to, get them over.
    11        If there are other documents which are not going to be used
    12        in cross-examination get them over as soon as possible, but
    13        the ones which you may want to put to Mr. Nicholson, you
    14        may not have decided but the ones you may want to put to
    15        Mr. Nicholson get over to Barlows tomorrow.
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    17   MR. MORRIS:  It is not our intention not to give them to the
    18        Plaintiffs, delaying tactics.  We have just handed the
    19        Plaintiffs all of our Anne Link references regarding
    20        chlorine in packaging.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Anyway I have said what I wanted to say in
    23        relation to that.  Is there anything else you must mention
    24        today?
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    26   MS. STEEL:   Just while I think of it, there have been a couple
    27        of mentions of closing speeches and I think sometime ago
    28        you mentioned about some document, I cannot remember what
    29        it was but advice on closing speeches or something.
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not bother about that yet.  We will come
    32        back to that comfortably sometime before the end of the
    33        long summer term, that is after Whitsun but before the end
    34        of July.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  We do intend to make a formal application that our
    37        closing speeches come second first.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I am not at all attracted by that at
    40        the moment, not only because I do not see any reason why
    41        what is the ordinary order of speeches should be changed
    42        because you are litigants in person; no other case in which
    43        I have been involved with litigants in person has there
    44        been a change.  In any event, I want to want to hear from
    45        you as soon as possible on some important things like where
    46        you have not pleaded it just what you say the meaning is of
    47        various things and what you say you actually can justify,
    48        and things of that kind.
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    50        So, quite apart from the normal procedure, I am positively 
    51        keen to hear what you have to say as soon as possible and 
    52        not after Mr. Rampton has addressed me. 
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    54   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think there may be a difference between
    55        going through the meanings and going through the evidence.
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    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it is not just meanings.  It is what
    58        among the great amount of evidence we have heard you
    59        actually say at the end of the day is relevant to something
    60        which is an issue in the case and how you say it is.  With

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