Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 38


     
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     2   Q.   Asked him when?
     3        A.  I asked him the specific numbers.
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     5   Q.   When did you ask that?
     6        A.  During part of when I was here and I was asked that
     7        question, I wanted to verify the question.
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     9   Q.   So that was when you were giving evidence before you asked
    10        him?
    11        A.  That was probably the first or the second day.
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    13   Q.   Prior to getting in the witness box you had never asked him
    14        about the number of birds that were dead on arrival?
    15        A.  I had an idea.  I have not asked specifically, yes.
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    17   Q.   That was not something that either you or McDonald's felt
    18        you needed to know about?
    19        A.  No, that is wrong.  We have discussions very often.  It
    20        is part of the formula costing.  If an animal dies on
    21        arrival, we have an open book policy, we look at everything
    22        in the cost, so we know how much.
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    24   Q.   So, previously, it was one to two per cent from your own
    25        knowledge of those discussions?
    26        A.  From that was what I remember as an estimate, yes.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Shall we pause there?
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    30   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  Can the witness be reminded not to speak to
    31        anybody during lunch-time or during the rest of his
    32        evidence, for that matter?
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    34   THE WITNESS:  I was reminded before that and ever since I have
    35        not spoken to anybody.  I sit at a different table when we
    36        go for lunch.
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  The difficulty is you have been asked a
    39        lot of questions and about things which, it is quite clear
    40        to me, are not within your direct knowledge.  You have been
    41        pressed about them, although you have said they are not of
    42        your direct knowledge and, therefore, you have gone to try
    43        to find information about them.  Since a point has been
    44        taken on it, do not do that any further.
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    46   THE WITNESS:  Yes, my Lord.
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will resume at 2 o'clock.
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    50                        (Luncheon Adjournment) 
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    52   MS. STEEL:  You said that for the chickens at the 
    53        slaughterhouses there is no breast comforters in other
    54        parts of the world apart from the UK.  Why is that?
    55        A.  I do not know.  I cannot speak for everybody else in
    56        the world.  I have seen variations of that, yes.
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    58   Q.   Variations?
    59        A.  Yes.
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