Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 52


     
     1        bird has flapped its wings after hanging and the leg has
     2        jumped out.
     3
     4   Q.   How often has that happened?
     5        A.  Not very often.
     6
     7   Q.   So that is where the bird has been trying to escape from
     8        the shackles?
     9        A.  Possibly it is, yes.
    10
    11   Q.   At No. 7 it says:  "Pick up any birds that have fallen onto
    12        ramp".  What ramp is that?
    13        A.  Is this task No. 7?
    14
    15   Q.   It is on the same page.
    16        A.  Task No. 6?
    17
    18   Q.   No. 7.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The one at the very bottom is 7.  Page 85,
    21        5.12.
    22        A.  The ramp is the area in front of the hangers, that if a
    23        bird jumps out of a crate as they are being hung on, there
    24        is a ramp beside them that they actually would jump on to.
    25        I think that is referring to picking those birds off that
    26        ramp and hanging them on.
    27
    28   MS. STEEL:  That is something that is fairly frequent because it
    29        says "pick up any birds", so would that be right?
    30        A.  Yes, I mean, I think they do jump out of the crates
    31        fairly often and -----
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  And you are not to leave them there too long?
    34        A.  That is correct, yes.
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:  Because if you leave them there for too long they
    37        are exposed to stressful conditions which results in a loss
    38        of yield?
    39        A.  Well -----
    40
    41   Q.   That is what it says there.
    42        A.  Yes, I mean that is one way of putting it.  I would
    43        just say it is unsatisfactory from a whole lot of points of
    44        view.
    45
    46   Q.   There are two killing lines the whole time, are there?
    47        A.  Yes, there are.
    48
    49   Q.   When were the two killing lines brought in?
    50        A.  In 1993, I think. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Manual killing, that is just for every bird that has not 
    53        been stunned properly, is it?
    54        A.  Yes, if a bird has not been stunned or if its throat
    55        has not been cut correctly, then it is killed manually.
    56
    57   Q.   There is also something called a "manual killing
    58        emergency".  Is that where all the bird are killed -----
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I just understand that last question?

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