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     2   MR. MORRIS:  It is the statement of Clay Harris.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is section C tab 2.
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     6   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
     7        A.  The letter to the Financial Times?
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     9   Q.   Yes.  This is the Consumer Industry's editor, the Financial
    10        Times.  He has made a statement for us backing up the truth
    11        of the article.
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    13   MR. RAMPTON:  He has not yet given evidence, Mr. Morris.
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    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, he is just asking to look at his
    16        statement.
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    18   MR. MORRIS:  No, as I said accurately, he has made a statement
    19        for us verifying the article.  If you just read the second
    20        page which maybe the best one to have a quick look at, his
    21        interview with Mr. Paul Preston. Just quickly glance
    22        through that.
    23        A.  Yes.
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    25   Q.   As far as you know, in your discussions with McDonald's,
    26        did they carry out a recycling scheme on this scale?
    27        A.  I do not know that.  I have not had discussions with
    28        them that would lead me to conclude one way or the other.
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    30   Q.   Did they mention anything to you about this recycling
    31        scheme?
    32        A.  You will recall in answering the question about my
    33        conversation in America, I said when I came back we
    34        discussed what they were doing in America, and it was at
    35        that time I was told what they were considering doing in
    36        this country.
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    38   Q.   Were they considering this kind of scheme at that time?
    39        A.  Yes.
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    41   Q.   So this report would coincide with what you were told?
    42        A.  I would think it is consistent with what I understood
    43        at the time, yes.
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    45   Q.   If they did not carry out that scheme, and you are not sure
    46        whether they did or not, but if they did not carry out that
    47        scheme, they just had that scheme say, for example, in
    48        Nottingham for a number of years in the early 1990s, they
    49        are not actually doing any recycling, are they, on any kind
    50        of scale of post-consumer waste? 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You just put a hypothetical situation which 
    53        he does not actually know about and asked him what the
    54        consequences are.  That is really a matter for argument to
    55        me.
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    57   MR. MORRIS:  Would the Nottingham scheme, as stated in that
    58        McFact Card, really be any significant pilot scheme for
    59        testing the feasibility of recycling?
    60        A.  In so far as my knowledge of it, the way in which it

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