Day 252 - 20 May 96 - Page 28
1 100 postprandial triglycerides may be atherogenic?
2 A. Yes, I would say that this is an opinion which is not
3 a general opinion, that most people do not think or do not
4 believe that there is any evidence that implicates
5 triglycerides specifically in the development of
6 cardiovascular disease. It is a contentious issue. Some
7 people think it might have, others do not, but it is very
8 unclear at the moment.
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10 Q. So you join issue even with "may" as a possibility?
11 A. No, I would not, your Lordship. Perhaps, in 5 years
12 time, there may be a great deal of evidence come forward
13 which suggests that triglycerides are, but at the moment
14 all the evidence suggests that they are not.
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16 Q. It is something on which we simply do not have enough
17 scientific evidence so one can never dispute the word
18 'may'.
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20 MS. STEEL: So far as I can see the chart is measurements taken
21 after the -- the first row is the ones taken after they had
22 had a low fat diet for a month and then eaten the oral fat
23 loads and then had the blood measured, and the high fat one
24 is the high fat diet for a month and then the oral fat load
25 and then the blood measures for that as well?
26 A. No, that is not what the table is about at all. I
27 think it states in the text, if I could read it.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, take your time and then answer what
30 Miss Steel has put to you.
31 A. The data in the table is the baseline levels before
32 fat load was given.
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34 MS. STEEL: Where do you get that from?
35 A. When I went through this very carefully.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not hesitate to do so again.
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39 MS. STEEL: In this letter it says exactly what I am putting to
40 you, that it is after--
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42 MR. RAMPTON: With great respect. If one looks at what (f)
43 means?
44 A. (f) means faster.
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46 Q. It says so in the first line of the abstract and then that
47 is repeated just above the table. It is jolly difficult to
48 read.
49 A. So (f) is the baseline values an PP means
50 postprandial, and that means after they have had this
51 enormous load of fat.
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53 MS. STEEL: I take it you understand what I say, which is if you
54 look at the first page of the statement it says that "the
55 aim of the study was to determine whether a diet high in
56 total and saturated fat had an adverse impact on the
57 ability to break down the blood fat in a rich fat meal".
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The witness must have the letter.
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