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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Not the Sue Carpenter one?
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     4   MR. MORRIS:   No, it is the Sandy War one and Nick Herbert one,
     5        which is two pages.  Have you found those?
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     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I have found Sandy War, which is followed by
     8        Sue Carpenter and then Giles Carroll.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:   Oh.  No, it is another Sandy War one.  Later on,
    11        about eight pages after that, there is another Sandy War
    12        report.  It is -----
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    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, I have that.
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    16   MR. MORRIS:   The following one is Nick Herbert.  The first one,
    17        Sandy War, 27th May 1994, seven in the morning, a breakfast
    18        programme, and we are talking about hundreds of thousands
    19        of people listening in the Greater London area.  It says,
    20        fourth line down, "McDonald's say the allegations are
    21        lies."  There is no one from McDonald's interviewed, so
    22        that can only have come from the press release, we would
    23        say, or a derivative of it.
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    25        This is the point about this press release, that when Helen
    26        was interviewed she is put on the defensive about whether
    27        she is lying or not, not what the issues of the case are
    28        about.  McDonald's knew, when they issued that press
    29        release, they were attacking our character and that would
    30        change the concept, that would move the goalposts on what
    31        was being discussed in the media what the case was about,
    32        not about the issues, whether they were true or false, but
    33        are we lying or not lying.
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    35   MS. STEEL:   If I can just point out that both of the press
    36        releases, the first one and the second one, are recorded as
    37        having been sent to GLR.  The first one to Mr. Steve
    38        Panton, GLR News, that is the last name on the list on
    39        page 2 of the further and better particulars in the defence
    40        to counterclaim, and the second press release was sent to
    41        Sean Waterman at GLR.  That is page 4 of the same pleading.
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    43   MR. MORRIS:   If you look, the next one after the Sandy War one
    44        is also GLR, same day but later on.  This is actually by
    45        Sean Waterman, so here is a person who has actually
    46        received the press release.  He is the reporter and the
    47        first paragraph, 4th line, Nick Herbert, presenter, says,
    48        "McDonald's say the leaflet is full of lies".
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    50   MR JUSTICE BELL:  I have read that.  You referred them to me. 
    51        If you are going to get through this expeditiously all you 
    52        have to do is point them out. 
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    54   MR. MORRIS:   If you just note that in the second paragraph the
    55        sixth and seventh lines deal with almost direct quotes from
    56        the press release -- strict hygiene rules, equal
    57        opportunities policy, that kind of stuff.
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    59   MR JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, very well.
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