Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 45
1 McDonald's packaging in Europe. What we have said is, or
2 what I have said as my opinion is, that this is 1.42
3 hectares (sic) of total land. Therefore, in 100 years, so
4 to speak, of operation on that line we need 100 times that
5 1.42 which is 142 hectares.
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Square miles, in fact. You said "hectares"
8 you meant "square miles"?
9 A. Square miles, I mean.
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11 MR. MORRIS: I am talking about area forest cover needed to
12 provide that 1.42 square miles?
13 A. Yes.
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15 Q. Yes. Do I have to multiply the 1.42 x 80 or do I have to
16 multiply the .96 square miles x 80 to get the total area of
17 forest cover needed that would be required to provide that
18 kind of amount in a year?
19 A. 1.42.
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21 Q. 1.42. My mathematics have long since gone, but that is
22 about 112 square miles, yes, something like that?
23 A. About right, yes. I have not worked it out, but it
24 might be. That is over a period of you have just
25 described.
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27 Q. That would be the total amount of forest cover you would
28 need to provide 1.42 -- if next year a forest of 112 square
29 miles would provide each year 1.42 square miles?
30 A. Without any further growth ---
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32 Q. Yes, I understand that.
33 A. -- which is just-- which is not realistic.
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35 Q. No, no. It regenerates.
36 A. That is right.
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38 Q. But the point is you have to have a forest size of 112
39 square miles to get the 1.42 square miles extracted each
40 year?
41 A. Actually, it needs a more complex computation than that
42 because in the period of time you are talking about, you
43 have got the regeneration of the first area that you clear,
44 and you have got the maturing of the area that you have
45 thinned and the whole process is continuous.
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47 Q. I understand.
48 A. So it does not actually need that total area you are
49 talking about to continuously provide the needs of
50 McDonald's in Europe for packaging material.
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52 Q. But if you only had a forest which was actually 1.2 square
53 miles and you knocked it down, you would get nothing for 80
54 years?
55 A. Yes, but you do not do that.
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57 Q. No, you have to have a forest that is, in fact,
58 approximately 80 times the size in order to -----
59 A. No, but you do not do that either.
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