Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 13


     
     1        particularly large quantities of chips.  The older boys
     2        had the highest median consumption of chips."  It goes on
     3        with fairly relevant stuff, but I think it is probably
     4        best now to skip to 9.5.6., which is looking at older boys
     5        within the age range they examined; that is to say, boys
     6        aged 14 and 15 -- again skip the first sentence -- the
     7        second sentence, or the third sentence I would like to
     8        refer to, particularly, the third and fourth:
     9
    10        "There were 68 older boys who ate out of school at cafes,
    11        take-away and fast food outlets.  These boys were eating a
    12        self-selected meal at week-day lunch times, and they ate
    13        the most eggs, other meat products, chocolate and colas."
    14        Also for the girls of that age group, paragraph 9 ----
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How many are there in the group?  It says 68
    17        older boys?
    18        A.  Yes, the total sample was a good deal more.
    19
    20   Q.   Does table 50 help you?
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  I would have thought section 2 "Survey
    23        Methodology", page 3 onwards, must have all the details.
    24        The total on page 4 is 2,697.
    25        A.  Yes.  Of that group of boys it was, therefore, 513, of
    26        which 68 eat in cafes at higher rates, that particular
    27        consumption.
    28
    29   Q.   Could you say something about the methodology of these
    30        surveys?  Was it very detailed?
    31        A.  I believe it to be so, yes.  These sorts of reports
    32        take an awful lot of money and government funding.
    33        I believe they are not done casually.  They spend an awful
    34        lot of trouble on it.  Indeed, samples of over 1000 of any
    35        particular group, particularly children, are not easy to
    36        run and must have taken a lot of effort.
    37
    38        Can I also ask you to pay attention to the penultimate
    39        paragraph of that chapter, 9.6.6, which looks at older
    40        girls, equivalent to the older boys, again half way
    41        through the paragraph:  "There were 54 girls", and that
    42        would be from ----
    43
    44   MR. RAMPTON:  461.
    45
    46   THE WITNESS:  -- "There were 54 girls who ate out of school at
    47        cafes, take-away and fast food outlets.  Like the older
    48        boys in this category they were eating a self-selected
    49        meal at week-day lunch times.  They ate the most eggs,
    50        bacon, poultry, sausages, burgers, chocolate, other 
    51        vegetables, colas and fizzy drinks." 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is all related to lunches during the
    54        school week in both those paragraphs?
    55        A.  When it says "they ate the most", I think they are
    56        referring to this group compared with all other girls
    57        sampled of that age group; so this 54 ate more of those
    58        foods than the other of the 561.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  Because they did it at lunch time during school

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