Day 241 - 26 Apr 96 - Page 15


     
     1        McDonald's to be".  Firstly, it is irrelevant what she says
     2        they expressed it to be.  The only purpose of bringing this
     3        witness can be to try to assert that everything, as far as
     4        McDonald's record goes, was hunky-dorey with the Wages
     5        Inspectorate because otherwise there is no point in calling
     6        this evidence.
     7
     8        Obviously, Mr. Mills is not going to be there, so we cannot
     9        ask him questions about, if that was what he said, why he
    10        felt it was satisfactory, what exactly he had examined and
    11        all kinds of related matters to that.
    12
    13        The statements in relation to Mr. Duncan -----
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Miss Trout, do you mean -- I assume it is a
    16        woman.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord, it is an Irish name, Grainne Trout.
    19          It is an Irish name, I think, Grainne.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is Ms. Trout?
    22
    23   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, she is a lady, a girl, female.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are objecting to -- what I need to know
    26        is whether you are objecting.  You are objecting to Miss
    27        Pearce.  Are you?
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:   Because she is hearsay; she is basically hearsay.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you objecting to Miss Trout?   I only
    32        need to hear from you if you are actually objecting and
    33        I only need to hear from Mr. Rampton if he is objecting to
    34        any of the new witnesses who you have served.
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  I just make the point that Mr. Duncan's
    37        statement to whom Miss Trout is responding was made in June
    38        1995.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do need to know whether you are objecting
    41        or not you see.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  We are not formally objecting.  We are just
    44        pointing it out.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you formally objecting to Miss Pearce?
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:   Formally objecting to Miss Pearce yes because her
    49        evidence is hearsay.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right. 
    52 
    53   MS. STEEL:   The statement concerning Norway, I am not -- I do
    54        not know what the position is but we had a witness whose
    55        statement was served a long time ago on Norway.  McDonald's
    56        had served a statement in response and they chose not to
    57        call that evidence.  They have now served a statement of
    58        somebody new, after our witness has given evidence and it
    59        just concerns me, I mean because that could go on forever
    60        if they are allowed to keep chopping and changing, when

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