Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 49


     
     1   Q.   29.
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Your Supplementary bundle.
     4
     5   MS. STEEL:  The Second Supplementary.  I think it is in
     6        supplementary bundle No. 2, I am not sure.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Anyway, you carry on.
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:   That is the right bundle.  I think I have a spare
    11        copy.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    14
    15   MS. STEEL (To the witness):  Are you familiar with the Simmons
    16        Engineering Company, Stunning and Killing Technology?
    17        A.  Familiar, no.  I know who they are.  I know they
    18        manufacturer equipment.  I know Sun Valley has this
    19        particular brand.
    20
    21   Q.   It says it is the most widely used in America -- is it?
    22        A.  I do not know which one is.  The last time, when you
    23        asked me before, I answered I do not know which one Tyson
    24        is using.
    25
    26   Q.   I mean, there are pictures there of some of the parts of
    27        the equipment.  Does that look anything like ---
    28        A.  I do not know.
    29
    30   Q.   -- the equipment?
    31        A.  The equipment that is at Tyson is cover or it is not
    32        quite visible.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where can you go from there?
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:   I was just checking there was not anything else
    37        I wanted to raise.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we put that one away then?
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:  Yes.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will just have a two or three minute break
    44        anyway, but I will stay here.  Sit down, if you want to,
    45        Dr. Gomez.  (Pause)  Are you looking to see if there is any
    46        more to do in relation to methods of slaughter of the
    47        chickens, so far as Dr. Gomez is concerned?
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:   I think I have finished on chickens because he does
    50        not seem to actually know that much about the procedure 
    51        anyway. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, as the Court of Appeal, in effect, said,
    54        if you had been able to plead a case properly then you can
    55        use cross-examination to try to support your case, but if
    56        you get answers from a witness that he just does not know,
    57        that is the end of it so far as he is concerned.  Do you
    58        want a five-minute break, in fact?
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:   It might be a good idea actually.

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