Day 152 - 11 Jul 95 - Page 71
1 in. So, for instance, if it was 7 till 2 we might write 7
2 a.m. just as an indicator. I never remember it really
3 being a problem. Basically, the people would know what
4 their hours of availability were usually.
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6 Q. But in terms of if, say, it was 11 till 7, as in the first
7 column, it would be assumed that was the day-time one
8 unless somebody wrote 11 p.m., would it, and it was an all
9 night shift?
10 A. Yes.
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12 Q. I do not know if you could get the Defendants' documents.
13 It is in one of the blue bundles. It is bundle IV and then
14 turn to tab 17, please. The pages are not numbered,
15 unfortunately. It is actually closer to the back of that
16 particular tab. There is a time record ----
17 A. The first of the 11th 87 written on it?
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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21 MS. STEEL: That is the one, yes. Is that the, is that an
22 example of a schedule that you would use or is that a
23 different kind of form to the one that you are ----
24 A. It is the same format, although I would have to say
25 that the schedule that we would use would be more fully
26 filled out that the one, the example given, in that the
27 columns would be filled in.
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29 Q. Which, oh, the ones on the end in the right-hand column?
30 A. Well, if column 2 and 3, for instance, that is the
31 columns I referred to when you are talking about male or
32 female and under or over 18.
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34 Q. Yes, I think they are filled out, are they not?
35 A. Not on the copy I have.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, there is not ----
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39 THE WITNESS: Sorry, second page is; the first page is not.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is on the second page but not on the
42 first, because although -- they would not expect to see a
43 cross on the first page because it has over 18 on all of
44 them at the top of the column; but you might expect they
45 are either male or female and there is not a mark for
46 that. So all that has happened on the first page it has it
47 written in over 18, but it does not say whether they are
48 male or female, although, presumably, the Manager would
49 always know.
50 A. OK, thank you.
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52 MS. STEEL: Is this a, obviously without the bits that are
53 filled in, is this exactly the same format that you used to
54 use in Colchester?
55 A. Exactly the same format, yes; obviously the detail on
56 it is different.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I see Kay Thorely there was scheduled for
59 five days but appears to have worked no hours at all
60 because he or she was sick.
