Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 33


     
     1        had previously stated, I might not include that, because it
     2        is not new information.
     3
     4   Q.   If it is a new person saying something, or somebody saying
     5        something that is different, then that would be worthy of
     6        note?
     7        A.  I would have tried to remember it, yes.
     8
     9   Q.   When I said "recall", I did not mean necessarily that
    10        everything went into the notes, but that ---
    11        A.  Memory.
    12
    13   Q.   -- as a private investigator, you are trained to listen to
    14        what is going on and remember it, especially if it is
    15        something of significance?  Is that part of the training?
    16        A.  It is not part of the training, no.  This is not a
    17        usual investigative matter.  It is not usual to attend this
    18        many meetings and try to recall as much information as was
    19        put there.  There was little chance of making actual notes
    20        during meetings, at these attendances.
    21
    22   Q.   You seem to recall quite a lot of detail?  For example, at
    23        this meeting, you had detail about myself:  how old I was,
    24        how long I had been with the group, what my absence was due
    25        to -----
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Morris, I do not know where you are
    28        going.  If there is no evidence of you saying anything
    29        about this, that or the other, the fact is there is no
    30        evidence of it.  If you dig round, for all I know, you will
    31        turn up some evidence.  But, at the moment, there is no
    32        evidence of you saying anything other than appears either
    33        in the statement or the notes, in so far as they are
    34        adopted by the witnesses.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  All I am saying is, in that paragraph there, you
    37        have obviously taken great care to remember what
    38        I particularly said, and my involvement in the group.
    39        A.  All I can tell you is -----
    40
    41   Q.   Is that because I had not actually been at any, or just one
    42        or two?
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What it does -----
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  It is quite important.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, it is.  But the same applies to Jane,
    49        and she had been there often enough; the same applies to
    50        Helen, and she had been there often enough, or it is 
    51        suggested. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  But this detail you remembered about me, or you
    54        noted about me, a whole paragraph with six lines, you
    55        remember in detail, is it because what I said at that
    56        meeting was important?
    57        A.  It is because that is what I remembered and it was
    58        something towards identification.
    59
    60   Q.   While we are on this subject, do you remember, when you

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