Day 104 - 15 Mar 95 - Page 18
1 from 3.9 to 5 degrees; do you see that?
2 A. Yes, I do.
3
4 Q. Then there is another one on the next page backwards, 102;
5 again all McKey's consignments, again the temperatures are
6 all recorded. That is for 14th April 1994. Then one goes
7 into May at page 101, the temperatures of the pack are
8 somewhat lower. There are a lot more, Mr. Bennett,
9 covering, in fact, the most of that year. I will not take
10 you to them myself. Have you had a chance to glance at all
11 these temperature charts yourself?
12 A. Yes, I have.
13
14 Q. From the food safety point of view, do they give you any
15 cause for concern?
16 A. They do not.
17
18 Q. Then I would like you to look -----
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would just like to ask a question out of
21 general interest: What sort of temperature would pack
22 fresh, I mean uncooked and unfrozen, meat be kept in a
23 typical supermarket cool cabinet, or whatever they call
24 them, before it is put into the customer's trolley, as it
25 were?
26 A. Again very similar to these, my Lord. The temperature
27 of the atmosphere on the counter is round about 0, and they
28 aim to keep the temperature of the meat far enough above
29 freezing to stop it beginning to freeze. So, three to four
30 degrees is the temperature that they would aim at.
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32 MR. RAMPTON: That is the end of the line, so for as Jarretts is
33 concerned, apart from the trucks, I take it?
34 A. Yes.
35
36 Q. I want to go backwards in the operation and backwards in
37 your file toward the front, please. Can you go to page 12
38 of the same bundle? I hope you have there a document
39 headed: "On line half-hourly QC checks", quality control
40 checks, "boning room"?
41 A. Yes.
42
43 Q. Is this another of your HACCP documents?
44 A. It is, process control sheet.
45
46 Q. We see if we look on the left-hand column it goes over two
47 pages, it finishes on page 13. They purport to record half
48 hourly checks, do they not?
49 A. Yes.
50
51 Q. Have you reason to think that these documents are telling
52 lies to you?
53 A. No, I have not.
54
55 Q. Just some idle fellow standing there, perhaps making a cup
56 of tea, putting any old thing down on a piece of paper?
57 A. No, there is no scope for that in the Jarrett
58 operation.
59
60 Q. There is not scope for it?
