Day 246 - 09 May 96 - Page 66


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is comment to me then, is it?
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     4   MR. MORRIS:  It is really, just to satisfy you that that was the
     5        source of our information and, of course, the Company had
     6        multiplied dramatically by the end of the '80s.
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will make a note in my notebook.  I do not
     9        think you need ask, it is not productive to ask, Mr.
    10        Preston about it.
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    12   MR. MORRIS:  No.
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    14   MR. RAMPTON:  I am sorry, I did not understand what Mr. Morris
    15        was saying.
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There is no need to understand it at the
    18        moment, because he is just asking me to look at it and if
    19        the Defendants rely on it in due course you will be able to
    20        say whatever you want to.
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    22   MR. RAMPTON:  I only said what I did because it is not what is
    23        in the Defence.
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That may be.  It may be that I will not be
    26        able to attach any evidential value to it.  I think what
    27        Mr. Morris wants to say is that he had some basis
    28        for -----
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    30   MR. MORRIS:  Pleading that.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, what was said.  That is all.  It may not
    33        have been necessary for him to have said it, but he has.
    34        So there we are.
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    36   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it is not pleaded and if it is relied on
    37        as material to rebut the charge of malice, it should form
    38        some sort of part of a witness statement, I would have
    39        said, saying when and where Mr. Morris first read it.
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    41   MR. MORRIS:  I can say now that that is the source of that
    42        information, and it is something which gives us belief of
    43        what it says in the London Greenpeace fact sheet as being
    44        true about -----
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us not get bogged down in those arguments
    47        now.
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    49   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, OK.
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    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Now, I want you to be candid with me.  If we 
    52        are going to struggle for quarter of an hour I would rather 
    53        we stop now and you have quarter of an hour more to get
    54        yourself in order for tomorrow.  If you have things you can
    55        usefully and productively ask this afternoon, then carry
    56        on.
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    58   MS. STEEL:   There is one thing I can put to the witness.
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    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us do that and then we will break.

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