Day 103 - 14 Mar 95 - Page 62


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  So those feathers would be removed, would they, at
     2        some stage after they should have been removed?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   I notice that on three of the batches -- these are out of
     6        25 chickens, are they?
     7        A.  Yes.
     8
     9   Q.   Three of them, there was a broken limb in one of the 25
    10        birds, yes?
    11        A.  Right.
    12
    13   Q.   If we move on, page 4 of the fax numbers at the top right
    14        hand, again we have a critical fault box for 8th February
    15        1995.  Under "broken limbs" -----
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Page 4 of the fax?
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I cannot identify the page in any other way.
    20        It is the fourth page in, in fact.  It has page "004" in
    21        the top right-hand corner.  Do we have the same document?
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is what I have.
    24
    25   THE WITNESS:  No, it is not that one.  It is one headed "Chicken
    26        E Line".
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  I think it is the one after that.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  So on the "broken limbs", in the critical fault box
    33        down at the bottom under "broken limbs", we have basically
    34        one out of every 25 on average have broken limbs, yes?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   So is that something near about the usual rate, something
    38        like -----
    39        A.  You have to remember that the processing equipment
    40        itself can cause broken legs.  That is not identifying
    41        necessarily a leg that has been broken on the farm or in
    42        catching.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is this after it has been through all those
    45        rubber fingers?
    46        A.  Yes, you quite often get legs breaking in those.
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  What is the problem with the lungs in that page
    49        under "evisceration"?
    50        A.  It just means they have been left in. 
    51 
    52   Q.   By mistake? 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.   That is happening quite regularly there.  What happens when
    56        a chicken gets through with lungs still in then?
    57        A.  Well, they can either be removed -- the whole point of
    58        this system is to measure how effective and how good we are
    59        at doing various procedures.  Adjustments can obviously be
    60        made to the equipment to make sure that the lung removal is

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