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1 more useful, as you just told us, than the other form?
A. As we discussed at length, the recommendation for diet
2 as a whole is that we should try to get the total fat down
to about 35 per cent; total fat down to 35 per cent of
3 calories. But, frankly, if you apply to an individual and
say, "You should have 35 per cent of calories as fat" it
4 is meaningless.
5 MS. STEEL: I think you misquoted what our witnesses have
said. They have not said that it should be per 100
6 grammes. I think they said that the percentage of energy
coming from fat should be given as well.
7
MR. RAMPTON: I Thought that is what I said.
8
MR. JUSTICE BELL: Put it again so we can see. The packet of
9 crisps I put to you weighed 26 grammes and it had figures
per 26 grammes and figures per 100 grammes.
10
MS. STEEL: No.
11
MR. JUSTICE BELL: On the table?
12 A. I think that is fine, but as I understand it, the
question at issue is that the fat should be presented in
13 the form of percentage calories.
14 MS. STEEL: That is right.
15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Listen to Mr. Rampton again. Can you put it
again, Mr. Rampton?
16
MR. RAMPTON: I was asking what disadvantages it might have for
17 the actual consumer if he had his information in the form
of percentage of calories?
18 A. I do not think there would be any disadvantage at
all. In fact, I think it would be of no help whatsoever,
19 that really what a person needs to know is how much fat is
coming from an individual product. Then they can relate
20 that to the total amount of fat or the total amount of
saturated fat which they would be aiming to achieve.
21
Q. If I am in my house and I am trying to measure out how
22 much salt I am putting on my food or how much fat there is
in my piece of meat, how can I measure it except by
23 weight?
A. That is the only way.
24
Q. It is true, is it not, that I would also have to know,
25 somebody would have to tell me what the likely percentage
of my total calorie intake is if I am trying to meet the
26 government guidelines?
A. That is right.
27
Q. Can I show you -- I am going to go on with this leaflet in
28 a moment, so do not put it away, but can I show you
another document which comes from -- this is the United
29 Kingdom in October 1984. I only want you, please, to
glance at. It is called "Good Food Nutrition at
30 McDonald's". I will pass you up the original. We all
have them in our file, I hope. In fact I have an earlier
