Day 005 - 04 Jul 94 - Page 31


     
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         MR. RAMPTON:  That was correct in 1986.  If Mr. Morris would
     2        care to refer Mr. Preston to the 1989 version, he will
              find something rather different.
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         MR. MORRIS:  We are just establishing that document is
     4        correct.  Let us move on to another subject in total.  You
              can put this file away.
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              Your company, you believe, has high standards ---
     6        A.  I believe it does, yes.
 
     7   Q.   -- all round, and I believe you said, but I will ask
              again, if there are transgressions of your high standards
     8        you would take them seriously?
              A.  I think we have demonstrated that in the past.
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         Q.   Yes.  I think it was also said maybe by Mr. Rampton that
    10        dishonesty amongst the employees was a sackable offence?
              A.  I do not know whether he said that or not.
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         Q.   Is it true?
    12        A.  If by dishonesty you mean stealing or something like
              that, that would be a dismissable offence, yes.
    13
         Q.   Is dishonesty as a whole a sackable offence in your
    14        organisation?  I do not mean stealing, I mean dishonesty
              in general.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you not give an example?
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         MR. MORRIS:  If somebody deliberately misled somebody else in
    17        the corporation about what was happening, for example?
              A.  You mean, for example, if someone said to me:  "I am
    18        sick today and I am not coming to work" and, in reality,
              they were not sick, is that a dismissable offence.
    19
         Q.   That is a good example.  Would that be a sackable offence?
    20        A.  Probably not.  There would probably be a warning
              though.  We would see what happened a second or a third
    21        time, and if it carried on, where people were not telling
              the truth, eventually they really have not only no part in
    22        McDonald's but, I dare say, no part in many industries.
 
    23        If someone falsified a document, and they said:  "I am
              going to do some crazy deal with a property developer and
    24        try to profit from this myself and cost the company and
              its shareholders its reputation", I think that would
    25        probably be a dismissable offence; it would depend exactly
              what it was, but stealing absolutely. 
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         Q.   I just want to collect my thoughts for a couple of 
    27        minutes.
 
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you want a minute or two?
 
    29   MISS STEEL:  It would be helpful, I think, if we could have a
              couple of minutes just to sort things out.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How long do you want?

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