Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 65
1 Dr. Long, what I would like to be able to do when we meet
2 again, and this is why I suggested we proceed in this
3 manner, is for you to draw attention to any parts of the
4 evidence of Dr. Gregory or of Mr. Bowes or Mr. Chambers
5 either which you disagree with or which give you concern
6 from the animal welfare point of view.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I am rather anxious about that for this
9 reason. You may be a very fast reader; not all of us are,
10 Mr. Rampton. For all I know Dr. Long is too, but what I am
11 concerned about is if he then comes back tomorrow and
12 speaks of specific things he disagrees with or give him
13 concern, he may well not mention one purely and simply
14 because in the rush to get through he either has not
15 noticed it or it has not had a full impact.
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17 At the end of the day if there has not been evidence either
18 in-chief or as a result of questions in cross-examination
19 where Dr. Long has said he disagreed with Dr. Gregory,
20 provided I think well of Dr. Gregory generally, obviously
21 it might be that I accept his evidence. I can see you made
22 comment, well, in fact Dr. Long did not give evidence to
23 controvert that, but I do not think it would be right for
24 me to infer that he actually agreed with something because
25 tomorrow he did not raids it as something he contested.
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27 MR. RAMPTON: I was not thinking of trying to play a game like
28 that. I was hoping that if he had read them and he noticed
29 them himself the things which seemed to him of particular
30 importance, I would not infer from his having missed
31 something that it was not necessarily something he
32 disagreed with. At the same time, it would be open to me
33 to say that he had not controverted it.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You would be able to say that whether he read
36 the transcript or not if you chose to.
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38 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, there is a vast amount in the evidence of
39 Mr. Ashley Bowes which ----
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What are the priorities? You are prepared to
42 do your best to achieve this, are you?
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44 THE WITNESS: Yes. I will lay in a stock of coffee!
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have some time tomorrow. What is the
47 order of precedence, Mr. Rampton? Dr. Gregory first, is
48 it?
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50 MR. RAMPTON: Yes. There is not a great deal of water between
51 Dr. Long and Dr. Gregory. Dr. Gregory has, with one or two
52 reservations, validated the industrial enterprise of
53 Midland Meat and G.D. Bowes & Sons. I do not believe that
54 need contain Dr. Long for very long. What does concern me,
55 I do not want to be unfair to Dr. Long, much of the
56 evidence he has given about pigs quite evidently, I say
57 much of it, not all, has no application whatsoever to
58 G.D. Bowes & Sons.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That will be a matter of for comment in due
