Day 020 - 28 Jul 94 - Page 17
1 with it.
2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, at the moment they have not.
3 MR. RAMPTON: No.
4 MS. STEEL: Dr. Gregory has said that his studies did not find
that. It was Sun Valley poultry that found the problem.
5
MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, he said his studies found there was a
6 steep increase in an adverse effect on the meat from 130.
Can you remember at what level in your experiments there
7 was any damage found to the birds?
A. Even when you use very low currents there is.
8
Q. That is what I thought you said; where was that about?
9 A. The lowest current level we used in the experiment
I am thinking of was around 40 milliamps, the very bottom
10 end.
11 Q. Can you remember at 60 on your---?
A. No, I cannot. It was a different waveform. It would
12 be dangerous to extrapolate.
13 MS. STEEL: If there was not a steep increase until over 130,
well, that was the point at which it started, you felt it
14 started making a difference?
A. That is correct, with that waveform 50 herz sinosoidal
15 AC.
16 Q. I have a paper here. I have only two copies. I thought
I had more. I do not know if I can hand a copy to the
17 witness.
18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is it? Who is it by?
19 MS. STEEL: It is an EC Workshop on Stunning and Preslaughter
Handling of Poultry.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is the point you want to put?
21
MS. STEEL: It is about whether stunning birds at 120
22 milliamps causes the meat to be unsatisfactory from a
consumer point of view.
23
MR. JUSTICE BELL: How big is the bit on that?
24
MS. STEEL: Just one paragraph.
25
MR. JUSTICE BELL: Read it out to us now.
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MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I would like to have a copy.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Hand one to Mr. Rampton, then read out from
28 the other. Just point out which paragraph it is. Can you
point out the paragraph to Mr. Rampton?
29
MS. STEEL: Second paragraph.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Read it out so that Dr. Gregory and I can
