Day 305 - 25 Nov 96 - Page 27
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2 I do not know if you want to break there for lunch?
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. We will break off until two o'clock.
5 Make sure you leave yourself ample time to deal with the
6 16th October 1989, which you told me on Friday you were
7 going to deal with today.
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9 MS. STEEL: Yes. There is actually quite a lot to deal with
10 today. I presumed that we would be going over because we
11 started late on Friday.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am prepared to consider that. Indeed, I do
14 not see why you should not have the time we lost on Friday
15 at the moment. But bear in mind what I have just said.
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17 MS. STEEL: Right, OK.
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19 (Luncheon Adjournment)
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So you are in no doubt, I think we started
22 just before 12 noon on Friday in the end. So, carry on --
23 if you need the time on this topic until that time
24 tomorrow.
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26 MS. STEEL: All right. I am trying to work out where to
27 start. Mr. Pocklington referred -----
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You just gave me the Mr. Bishop quote about
30 it not being immediately apparent who was in charge of
31 meetings. That was your last reference.
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33 MS. STEEL: Right, yes. Actually, just another thing on that
34 point -- not quite on that point -- but there have been
35 various assertions made by the spies which generally
36 appeared in their statements, but not in their notes, that
37 myself and Mr. Morris were particularly vociferous or
38 opinionated. We would say that even if that were true, it
39 is completely irrelevant; but, also, if it is true, then it
40 would actually work against the Plaintiffs, because if we
41 are so opinionated and we were also involved in the
42 anti-McDonald's campaign, then after a year and a half of
43 infiltration of the London Greenpeace meetings McDonald's
44 should have dozens of examples of both of us calling for
45 pickets of McDonald's and encouraging distribution of the
46 fact sheet. Instead, what have they got? Not a single
47 occasion when either of us spoke in favour of pickets or in
48 favour of the fact sheet. I mean, obviously, that does not
49 mean we were against it, but the point is that if we were
50 sort of motivating forces, or what have you, and we were so
51 opinionated as the Plaintiffs make out, then how come they
52 have not got any examples of us encouraging pickets and
53 distribution of the fact sheet?
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55 Just going through a bit of the evidence from
56 Mr. Pocklington, in the first statement, paragraph 7, he
57 said that he noted copies of the leaflets complained of
58 were stocked in boxes available to take away; but in his
59 notes he does not in fact record that, in the notes of that
60 meeting. I cannot remember which meeting that was at.
