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1 human consumption and so on, does that mean he takes one
2 specimen from a number of carcasses or cuts or whatever it
3 is that is being looked at?
4 A. Are we now talking about hormones? Have you gone back
5 there, sir?
6
7 Q. If you do a microbiological test for E. coli, for instance?
8 A. That is a microbiological test from each combo which is
9 1,400 pounds.
10
11 Q. So he takes a cut of the combo?
12 A. He takes a core sample, sir. Can you imagine giant
13 cheese corer with about a two-inch diameter with a motor
14 driving it, and it cuts right down and takes a column out
15 of it, a full sample. He then macerates that to get an
16 even distribution and checks that. In these terms, testing
17 these batches, that is a 2,000 pound batch in a a Z-armed
18 grinder, grinder mixer.
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20 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have now been handed, I expect you
21 recognise this document, a McKey Service brochure really.
22 It is very difficult for us without everybody having one.
23 You are going to be here, I think at any rate, tomorrow,
24 Mr. Walker, perhaps on Friday. Could you get from
25 headquarters -- will McDonald's have some of these, do you
26 think?
27 A. No. I can get some.
28
29 Q. You can get some sent down for us?
30 A. Yes.
31
32 Q. I will pass it round.
33 A. There are two in that set. There is that one and there
34 is a quality control one as well.
35
36 Q. This is about your partnership with McDonald's?
37 A. Yes. You would like some sent down?
38
39 Q. I think everybody would like to see them probably.
40 I should have thought of it before.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Shall we take our break there?
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44 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, my Lord. Perhaps the Defendants would like
45 to have look at it.
46
47 (Short Adjournment).
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49 MR. MORRIS: Do we know what date that document is?
50
51 MR. RAMPTON: Date, any idea what date it is? I can tell you it
52 is post September 1989.
53 A. If I could see it, sir, I might see something which
54 will allow me to date it, but interestingly enough I would
55 have thought it was before that. It was just a brochure we
56 did.
57
58 Q. I just noticed a date in September 1989. It may have been
59 a prediction rather than a report, so it may be wrong.
60 A. It must have been after 1991.
