Day 099 - 08 Mar 95 - Page 34
1 Q. Do they seem to work, so far as you can tell?
2 A. They do work, yes.
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4 Q. Then: "30. Grill temperature calibration checks". Can
5 you tell me why would McKey's carry out grill temperature
6 calibration checks -- I can understand why McDonald's might
7 -- and grill timers checks?
8 A. In the laboratory at McKey's they have identical
9 equipment that we would have in our restaurants to cook our
10 hamburger patties. They will cook them under identical
11 operational conditions to that which we would use in our
12 restaurants.
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14 Q. For what reason?
15 A. To ensure that they are cooked properly and then,
16 additionally, so that they can go on and do the quality
17 tests as well.
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19 Q. Leaving quality and taste all those things on one side, if
20 you are desirous of establishing a constant temperature in
21 the centre of the patty, is it important or not that the
22 product should be of consistent texture?
23 A. Definitely, yes.
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25 Q. If you have a lump of something in the way, particularly if
26 it is frozen, may that inhibit the destruction of
27 bacteria?
28 A. It may inhibit the conduction of heat through the
29 patty, yes, which would lead to that.
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31 Q. Then: "33. An organoleptic test", anything to do with
32 food hygiene or not?
33 A. No, that is tasting products.
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35 Q. That is somebody sits down and says whether they like it or
36 not and whether it smells -----
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is that all that "organoleptic" means?
39 A. Basically, yes. It is using your sensory organs. So,
40 to a degree, I mean, if the meat was off, you would taste
41 it as being off.
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43 Q. So it includes smell as well?
44 A. Yes.
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46 Q. Perhaps it is justified in that case.
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48 MR. RAMPTON: "33. Plant hygiene inspection prior to start up
49 each day". Have you seen them doing that?
50 A. Yes, I have seen the inspections prior to set up and
51 the results of the -----
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53 Q. Tell me, how thorough is it?
54 A. It is extremely thorough. They take contact plates on
55 surfaces and record the bug levels of clean surfaces.
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57 Q. Is that what in the old days might be called "a swab", is
58 it a similar sort of proceeding?
59 A. Yes, swab, the same thing, yes.
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