Day 190 - 23 Nov 95 - Page 35


     
     1        that, if my submission is correct.
     2
     3        One notices the plural "stores", if one needs any further
     4        clue as to what nature these interviews had when they were
     5        conducted.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I notice, I assume it is the solicitor has
     8        put, "by what criteria", which, in any event, it might not
     9        carry any weight, because one just does not know what it
    10        means, "understaffed".
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  No.  But, in any event, it is hearsay on its face;
    13        and, for the reasons which I have submitted, it cannot be
    14        adduced as an admission by McDonald's.
    15
    16        My Lord, then the next one, I think, is on page 5,
    17        paragraph 4.  So I am taking that to be the one "SP and HL
    18        produced", if I have understood Mr. Morris' system.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  Again, I do not have any objection to that.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  If I have the right paragraph.  The next one is
    27        page 8, which again I take to be, because the first one is
    28        a nought -----
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think it starts from "SP pointed out" and
    31        goes to the end of that paragraph, at the top of the page.
    32
    33   MR. RAMPTON:  Those are remarks by Steve Percy, not by
    34        Harriet Lamb.  So I do not see how we can possibly have
    35        those.  He is not a witness.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  It is about the employee that worked in
    38        Harriet Lamb's store.  So that is the reason.
    39
    40   MR. RAMPTON:  I realised that.  But one sees later on, when one
    41        gets to it, that Harriet Lamb's information about this
    42        comes from Steve Percy.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The position would be, if Mr. Morris embarked
    45        on that with Ms. Lamb, one would have to see what her
    46        answers were as to what her source of information was,
    47        before one judged whether she should get any information.
    48        You may be quite right.  It looks as if it comes from him,
    49        but one would have to wait and see finally.
    50 
    51   MR. RAMPTON:  I mean, of course, I agree there are areas where 
    52        one is not clear.  But this one, I think, is, because 
    53        I think it is -----
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is page 10.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, it is page 10.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The first complete paragraph.
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