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     1        A.  I do not know what the other people are asking all the
     2        time.
     3
     4   Q.   Is there somebody else who has that responsibility or is it
     5        your responsibility?
     6        A.  No, I said it before, so the people who have that
     7        responsibility, we leave that responsibility to their
     8        suppliers.  We do not feel that is our responsibility.  It
     9        is their chickens.  It is their business.  It is in their
    10        best interests.  If those animals are dead on arrival, they
    11        will lose money.  So it is in their best interests to
    12        obviously not to cause that.
    13
    14        What I do know that their rates of deaths on arrival are
    15        way below anybody else in the business, because we are
    16        totally integrated.  We have everything pretty much that we
    17        need within three miles of our complex.  That gives us a
    18        tremendous advantage to everything that we do.
    19
    20   Q.   If there was some reason to be concerned about some aspect
    21        of the way that suppliers were treating animals, would it
    22        be your job to find out about that or would it be somebody
    23        else's job in the company?
    24        A.  Again, it is the supplier's responsibility.
    25
    26   Q.   Yes, but if you thought there was something going wrong
    27        with the supplier, your department would investigate that,
    28        would it?
    29        A.  Absolutely.
    30
    31   Q.   You would be responsible for that ultimately, would you?
    32        A.  There are several people responsible for that -- I am
    33        one of them.
    34
    35   Q.   Who are the others?  Are they your superiors or are they
    36        people under you?
    37        A.  No, we have Steve Stoncipher who is the Purchasing
    38        Director for chicken products in the US.  He has that
    39        responsibility.  There is Linda Aenkel who is responsible
    40        for Quality Assurance US.  There is Lachele Slangmaker who
    41        is specifically responsible for QA, Quality Assurance, of
    42        the chicken side of the business as well as others.  There
    43        is Paul Simmons who has the global responsibility.  There
    44        is myself and there is management.  There is all other
    45        people, anybody who visit that plant, who is aware of any
    46        problem and works for McDonald's has that responsibility.
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  Is there anyone specifically whose job is to be
    49        concerned about animal welfare specifically, that is their
    50        job? 
    51        A.  We do not have anybody in the company whose specific 
    52        job is the welfare of animals. 
    53
    54   Q.   Do you have an animal welfare department?
    55        A.  No.
    56
    57   Q.   It is under the general Quality Assurance Department?
    58        A.  That is correct, Quality Assurance and Purchasing.
    59
    60   Q.   And Purchasing.  Has your department ever discontinued a

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