Day 097 - 06 Mar 95 - Page 56
1 guillotine mechanism and then there is a curtain above
2 that.
3
4 Q. So the waiting animal cannot see the animal being stunned?
5 A. No.
6
7 Q. When the animal has been stunned it falls down into sort of
8 a trap door or something, does it?
9 A. It falls over -- the floor in the stunning pen is
10 sloping and then another door opens, thus the animal rolls
11 out.
12
13 Q. Then is it shackled?
14 A. Yes.
15
16 Q. And hoisted?
17 A. That is right.
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19 Q. Then it goes round and somebody sticks it; is that right.
20 A. Yes.
21
22 Q. We will have a look at a plan in a moment, not your plan,
23 but we will have a look in a moment. Can the animal in the
24 stunning pen see the animal in front of being stuck or not?
25 A. No.
26
27 Q. How do you react to this statement -- again it is not mine
28 but it is a quotation -- "Cattle become frantic as they
29 watch the animal before them in the killing line being
30 prodded, beaten, electrocuted and knifed"? Would you like
31 comment on that assertion?
32 A. The animal cannot see any of that happening.
33
34 Q. Have you ever seen your animals becoming frantic as they
35 await the stunning?
36 A. Not frantic, not really, no, and sometimes they do not
37 wish to go into the stunning box, but it is the same as if
38 you are trying to put an animal through a gate, I suppose.
39
40 Q. Going back to this document which is in front of us:
41 "Ensure that animals have no means of escaping from
42 passageways etc." Do you your animals have any means of
43 escape from the race as they come up to the stunning pen?
44 A. No.
45
46 Q. The concrete on the sides, is it solid? It is a solid wall
47 construction?
48 A. Yes.
49
50 Q. Can the humans look over and see the animals within?
51 A. Yes, they can. The cattle are actually below the
52 people.
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54 Q. Will there always be -- I think you called him a drover --
55 a drover behind the animals that are coming up the race?
56 A. Yes.
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58 Q. Then it says: "Never use excessive force if animals are
59 reluctant to move". Then it says: "Never use an electric
60 goad on any animal unless its use on the hindquarters of
