Day 019 - 27 Jul 94 - Page 57


     
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is we will have our
     2        five-minute break now and go on to methods of slaughter.
              If you want to raise anything in relation to Oasters, tell
     3        me in the morning, but you may think, in fact, it has gone
              as far as it is helpful to.
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         MS. STEEL:   I am a bit concerned about the fact that we have
     5        not seen it before.  This is a problem that has -- it is
              not just with this because, like yesterday, there is the
     6        pig booklet in your set of files but was not in ours.  It
              seems like there is a continual problem with whether we
     7        have been served with things that are handed in to the
              court or whatever.  You know, it puts us in a very
     8        difficult position if we have not got all the information
              available to us that is available to the court.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not know.
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         MR. RAMPTON:  I can tell your Lordship what actually happened
    11         -- it has happened before in this case -- the defendants
              were handed envelopes in court on that day or the day
    12        after containing the submission with the letter.  If, as
              has happened before, they do not care to read what they
    13        are given, we cannot be answerable for that.
 
    14   MS. STEEL:   I could believe that one of us might have
              overlooked it but not both of us.  We do read what we are
    15        given.
 
    16   MR. MORRIS:  Can I tell you, if it was an admission we would
              definitely have noticed it.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  For all I know something has gone wrong but
    18        there we are.
 
    19   MR. MORRIS:  A mix up.
 
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will have a five minute break and then
              carry on.
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                             (Short Adjournment)
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         MS. STEEL:   On the loading procedure, you did not watch that,
    23        did you?
              A.  Not at Sun Valley.
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         Q.   Do you know whether Sun Valley have specific instructions
    25        to the catchers not to hold the birds by the legs?
              A.  I do not know.  I would consider it to be very 
    26        unlikely. 
  
    27   Q.   That is the usual way?
              A.  Yes.  It would slow the whole procedure down too much
    28        to carry them by the body or by the wings.
 
    29   Q.   How are they normally put on to the lorry at Sun Valley?
              A.  I can describe the system in general and assume that
    30        it applies to Sun Valley.
 

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