Day 151 - 10 Jul 95 - Page 15
1 MR. MORRIS: We know that at the end of the 80s the turnover
2 rate was much greater than in 1995, and so -----
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you are pushing at an open door. You
5 have had it with the previous witness.
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7 MR. MORRIS: The reality is that the majority of staff in the
8 country, whatever the percentage was, worked for less than
9 12 months ---
10 A. Right.
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12 Q. -- at McDonald's; yes?
13 A. OK.
14
15 Q. Say, for example, in Leicester, it would take them
16 something like nearly five months to have an opportunity
17 for a wage increase?
18 A. Right.
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20 Q. Which they might fail or they might pass; they might get
21 five pence or 10 pence on top of their starting rate?
22 A. Or 15 pence. Right.
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24 Q. Yes, in exceptional circumstances. Then they would get
25 another opportunity for a pay review in four months' time
26 after that?
27 A. Yes.
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29 Q. Correct?
30 A. After the five months, four months, certainly, yes.
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32 Q. Yes, after the nearly five months ---
33 A. Yes.
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35 Q. -- they had been there. So they have an opportunity to get
36 -- looking on a positive side -- they might get a 10 pence
37 increase, a 20 pence increase, within 12 calendar months of
38 them starting at McDonald's?
39 A. If they had started just after June, let us say, when
40 the last Wages Council notification would have come
41 through, then yes.
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43 Q. Yes, in terms of -- sorry, I am talking about in terms of
44 differential?
45 A. Yes. June -- through to June probably would be the
46 opportunity to get that 10 times two pay reviews.
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48 Q. If they stayed on over 12 months, then they must have got
49 -- the new starting rate must have come in at some stage
50 in their employment, in which case of course they would
51 lose most or all of their differential?
52 A. Or they would gain a five or 10 pence pay rise,
53 depending on how the starting rate started. I suppose it
54 is a half empty/half full argument, is it not?
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56 Q. And the process starts again, does it not?
57 A. Yes, absolutely.
58
59 Q. But when the pay round, if they stayed two years -- in the
60 unusual circumstance that might stay two years -- then, hey
