Day 238 - 22 Apr 96 - Page 21
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2 Q. Do you have any comment on the general spreads?
3 A. Of the yellow flashes?
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5 Q. Of the yellow flashes in Mato Grosso, particularly in the
6 southern part?
7 A. Well, as I say, certainly also they are near towns
8 where there are, like Dourados and Amambai, Guarani people
9 who are living who have been disposed of their land
10 particularly in during Dourados where the indigenous
11 reserve is right next to the town.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What was the name of the other place?
14 A. Amambai and Dourados.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have Dourados. Where is the first one?
17 A. Amambai is southwest of Dourados. If land claims,
18 which are currently in the Courts, if indigenous land is to
19 be extended as under the constitution, the indigenous
20 people have original rights to their lands. In the future
21 if this land were recognised, it could conceivably also
22 impinge on those areas marked by yellow flashes.
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24 MR. MORRIS: I think we have finished. There is just one thing
25 I want to check. (Pause) No further questions. Thank you.
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27 Cross-examined by MR. RAMPTON QC:
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29 Q. I imagine your Lordship is not going to take a break this
30 morning?
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I thought not. Are we all right? We did not
33 get going again until about 20 past 11.
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35 MR. RAMPTON: Quite.
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37 (To the witness): Do you prefer Mrs, Miss or Ms?
38 A. Ms.
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40 Q. Ms Watson, you joined Survival probably in about 1990; is
41 that right?
42 A. Yes.
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44 Q. And since then you have made, you tell us in your first
45 statement, 3 field trips to Brazil each lasting 2-3 months?
46 A. Yes.
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48 Q. Do you remember the years of those field trips?
49 A. The first one was 1990; the second one was 1992 and
50 the third one was 1993.
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52 Q. Taking them, if you will, in turn. In summary, where did
53 your first trip take you in Brazil?
54 A. The first trip took me to Amazona State down to the
55 south to Guarani area in Rio Grande do Sul also down to
56 Santa Caterina in the south.
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58 Q. That is in the south of Brazil next to Uruguay or wherever
59 it is?
60 A. Yes.
