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     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  (Handed)
     2
     3   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  I ask you simply to leave through
     4        these documents which are all in similar form, Mr. Bowes;
     5        notice the date which is the first entry and tell us now
     6        what they represent?
     7        A.  Yes.  Sir, may I just explain why this documentation is
     8        so late because, quite simply, I did not read Dr. Gregory's
     9        report until yesterday, and I was not aware of the point 4,
    10        and so I knew we had done work where there was a difference
    11        in this area.  If I may explain just one thing on
    12        this -----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When you say "his report", do you mean the
    15        report which he wrote and signed some time ago ---
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   -- or some transcript of his evidence?
    19        A.  Yes, the report, or in the report -- was it in the
    20        transcript of his evidence -- where he mentioned -- no,
    21        that was in his evidence because that is where the
    22        calculation was done.  That is correct, and he calculated
    23        with mathematical facts rather than the practical facts
    24        that we have here.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  Just tell us, you wanted to say one thing about
    27        this?
    28        A.  Yes.  On behalf of the Meat and Livestock Commission, I
    29        would like to apologise for their computer.  It described
    30        pigs as "sheep" on here.
    31
    32   Q.   Yes.  Do you recognise these documents?
    33        A.  Yes, I do.
    34
    35   Q.   What are they?
    36        A.  That is work that was done by John Goodman of MLC in
    37        work in trying to assess what current was being used for
    38        the stunning of pigs.
    39
    40   Q.   At G.D. Bowes & Sons?
    41        A.  At G.D. Bowes & Sons, because we have a low voltage
    42        system but it is high cycle.
    43
    44   Q.   If you do not mind, so that the Defendants have a chance to
    45        go through these, put them by for the moment.  It might be
    46        useful if you put them at the back of your statement which
    47        is in tab -- that is where I will put mine -- 7 of the
    48        yellow volume IX.  Put it right at the back behind the
    49        other documents.  You will find there the freedom food
    50        document, if you put these tables behind that.  Is your 
    51        copy hole punched? 
    52        A.  No, sir -- yes, it is the other side.  I beg your 
    53        pardon.
    54
    55   Q.   Just before we leave that topic, Mr. Bowes, why do you use
    56        low voltage for your stunning?
    57        A.  We have done considerable work at our factory in
    58        conjunction with different companies who specialise in
    59        stunning, and the MLC and the University of Bristol, to try
    60        to come to the most effective way of electrical stunning.

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