Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 47
1 Q. This says at the top of it "re London Greenpeace", so it
2 would appear that at the time you knew that this
3 investigation was connected to London Greenpeace?
4 A. That is possible, yes.
5
6 Q. These would be notes that you typed up; yes?
7 A. Yes, yes.
8
9 Q. It was not somebody else typed them up?
10 A. No.
11
12 Q. If you look at page 2, at the bottom of it, you talk about
13 Mr. Gravett, and you say: "He described subject group as a
14 radical political group."
15 A. OK, in which case I was mistaken. Then the name
16 London Greenpeace was known to me.
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18 Q. On the third page, you have talked about the film
19 Jungle Burger being shown. That is a film about the cattle
20 ranching industry in general, and McDonald's and
21 Burger King are referred to in that film. But in your
22 report of it, you concentrate on what was said about
23 McDonald's. Do you think, looking back, that actually you
24 did know that it was about McDonald's that you were making
25 these investigations -----
26 A. No, I do not think it was. Certainly, the emphasis at
27 the meeting, as I recall from Paul Gravett, was on
28 McDonald's, his emphasis was on McDonald's there.
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30 Q. But by the time of the fair, you were aware that the
31 investigation was about McDonald's?
32 A. I do not recall when I actually became aware that
33 McDonald's was the key issue. It is perfectly possible
34 that it was the fair.
35
36 Q. If you could now turn to -- you were shown photographs
37 before you started this investigation, were you not?
38 A. I was shown photographs during the investigation, not
39 before I began the investigation.
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41 Q. Do you remember when it was that you first shown these
42 photographs then?
43 A. No, I do not remember precisely. It was fairly early
44 on within the investigation.
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46 Q. You were here when Mr. Bishop was giving evidence yesterday
47 and I put to him the general format of the meeting;
48 basically, that what would happen was that somebody would
49 get a scrap of paper from somewhere, write the word
50 "agenda" on the top of it, and put down a few regular
51 items, which were correspondence received -- well, office
52 and letters -- past events and coming events; and then, in
53 terms of the other items on the agenda, the paper would be
54 passed round to everybody and anybody could add anything
55 that they wanted. Would you agree with that?
56 A. The Caledonian Road meetings, that is my recollection
57 of how they were organised.
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59 Q. Yes. Sorry, I should have said that was the
60 Caledonian Road meetings I was referring to. Then what
