Day 125 - 12 May 95 - Page 49


     
     1        the attention of McDonald's.  We indicated to them that we
     2        would like to see a minority of black, Hispanic or an Asian
     3        to have ownership of that business and encouraged them to
     4        consider that which they did.
     5
     6   Q.   When was that?
     7        A.  That was I wanted to say in the early 90s that
     8        negotiations that took place.
     9
    10   Q.   Which minority is it you are speaking of?
    11        A.  John Lopez is the operator of record of -----
    12
    13   Q.   He sounds as though he is Hispanic?
    14        A.  He is Hispanic, yes, he is.
    15
    16   Q.   What size of company is it?
    17        A.  It is a major; it is a billion dollar company.
    18
    19   Q.   Thank you.  Only one other thing, Mr. Beavers:  Do you
    20        think you could kindly find the pink file III, the
    21        McDonald's profile file?
    22        A.  I have it, yes.
    23
    24   Q.   Could you turn to tab 4 at page 130, please?  Here is a
    25        list -- are these called "officers", these people, the
    26        Board of Directors, the top management team, the Vice
    27        Presidents, the Regional Vice Presidents and Assistant Vice
    28        Presidents, are those officers of the Company?
    29        A.  Yes, they are.  Page 104, you say?
    30
    31   Q.   130.
    32        A.  I am sorry.  Yes.  All of the officers of the Company
    33        as well as the top management team, the top officers, yes.
    34
    35   Q.   Apart from the advisory directors under the line on the
    36        left-hand column, are the first three columns of that page
    37        all officers?
    38        A.  Yes, they are.
    39
    40   Q.   Thank you.  You told us, I cannot remember when it was,
    41        earlier this week, which ones were minority people, ethnic
    42        minority people, and which ones were women and some of them
    43        were both; that is right, is it not?
    44        A.  That is correct.
    45
    46   Q.   I got in a muddle about Terry Savage who is on the Board of
    47        Directors with you.  You told us that is a woman?
    48        A.  That is correct.
    49
    50   Q.   Is it a white woman or a black woman? 
    51        A.  She is white. 
    52 
    53   Q.   One other thing about this:  Look down the third column,
    54        please -----
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you just recall, Terry Savage is an
    57        addition to those then or is she there?
    58
    59   MR. RAMPTON:  No, she was there, my Lord.  I got in a muddle and
    60        thought she might be a black woman.  I knew she was a woman

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