Day 009 - 08 Jul 94 - Page 53
1 represent both by width and depth.
2 Q. Something like that?
A. That would be my estimate.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Presumably, you have to have somewhere to
4 stack the dirty dishes before they go in?
A. That is a good point.
5
Q. And stack them afterwards. Is it just the size of the
6 dishwasher?
A. No, there is more to it than that but, strictly
7 speaking, the piece of equipment might be this size. You
need more space than that to handle incoming the dishes
8 and to handle the outgoing clean dishes.
9 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can I just ask the question I asked before.
Is it space is money or is there another factor that
11 I have not thought of with regard to space?
A. Well, certainly space is money, but also space is
12 space. If you only have, you know, pieces of property
that might be available might be, for instance, a gas
13 station that is closed down, it is only X size. You can
only put a certain size restaurant on that, so the smaller
14 restaurants have provided us more opportunities to find
places to put our business.
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MR. MORRIS: If you had no packaging, then you would not have
16 so many bins in the store and disposable at the back, and
I know this is only talking about post-consumer?
17 A. I would say when we examined this issue with the
Environmental Defence Fund, our joint conclusion was that
18 reusables would require more space in a restaurant than
disposables.
19
When you compare the storage space we need to store the
20 disposables and then, you know, we certainly take that
disposable packaging, we use it and it is consumed. That
21 would compare favourably less space than the space needed
for reusables.
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Q. You would not have to do environment/index.html">litter patrols, would you?
23 A. No. You would still have the environment/index.html">litter issue because one
is 50 per cent of our business is drive-through.
24 Secondly, not everything, everything could not be on
dishes or plates or cups. You would still have some
25 packaging. You cannot eliminate packaging totally from
the equation. We have to by law and regulation.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: As I understand it, where does environment/index.html">litter come
27 apart from take-away? I mean, I suppose someone may buy
something to eat inside and then walk out with it half
28 eaten in its packet?
A. Correct.
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Q. But, basically, is environment/index.html">litter any kind of problem apart from
30 associated with take-away meals?
A. That is how I would define it. Different countries
