Day 086 - 09 Feb 95 - Page 13


     
     1        A.  I am sorry, I am having a problem with explaining
     2        myself today.  If a restaurant machine was broken, they
     3        would borrow another one from another store, so it would be
     4        brought into that store.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Sometimes they would take the material to be
     7        cleaned to another store; instead of borrowing their
     8        machine they might go to the other store themselves?
     9        A.  No.
    10
    11   Q.   Would that concern you if they did have to do that?
    12        A.  I think  -- no, I do not think there is any particular,
    13        anything particularly dangerous in taking dirty equipment
    14        in a car from one restaurant to another and cleaning it and
    15        bringing it back, but I have never known that happen.
    16        I think it is more logical to take the piece of equipment
    17        that is doing the cleaning from a place to where the dirty
    18        things are and clean it there, but I think it is a
    19        hypothetical question.  It is just referring to fat
    20        filtering machines.
    21
    22   Q.   Would it concern you if an insulated plastic handle on a
    23        fat filtering machine or, indeed, any other electrical
    24        equipment was missing?
    25        A.  I do not think it would unduly concern me.  That is
    26        because -- I am not sure by inference if you are thinking
    27        it is something to do with electrocution that is there.  My
    28        belief is that it is because of temperature, like on the
    29        toaster handle we have insulation on there.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just to help you along, I think the
    32        suggestion may be that it is about 18 inches long and an
    33        insulated plastic handle; does that ring any bells to you?
    34        A.  If I am supposed to be thinking about a fat filtering
    35        machine, I cannot think of an insulated plastic handle on
    36        it.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  An 18 inch?
    39        A.  The problem is there are a number of fat filtering
    40        machines.  I am not familiar with all of them.
    41
    42   Q.   I believe it was a relatively old type.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us suppose that ---
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Whether that helps, I do not know.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- this machine should have had one and did
    49        not, would that concern you?
    50        A.  If a fat filtering machine did not have an insulating 
    51        handle where it should have had -- from my understanding 
    52        now, it would not concern me.  I would assume that was to 
    53        do with heat transference from it.  So, it would be a
    54        source of concern that the metal beneath it may be hotter
    55        but nothing  -----
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry, is it a matter of concern to you or not?
    58        A.  A matter of minor concern.
    59
    60   Q.   Minor concern.  If it is found out that in the opinion of a

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