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     1        to ourselves, to McDonald's.
     2
     3   Q.   So are you saying that if he had said, "We export to
     4        McDonald's", then you would have taken action, but he did
     5        not say that; is that what you are saying?
     6        A.  Yes.  We would have taken action.  What we would have
     7        done, I do not know, but we would have taken action, of
     8        course, yes.
     9
    10   Q.   What, against him or against the company?
    11        A.  Both.  He represents the company.
    12
    13   Q.   If he was the Sales Director, he would be expected to know
    14        who he is selling to and for what purpose?
    15        A.  That is correct.
    16
    17   Q.   You said there was an ecologist quoted on the film, was it?
    18        A.  That is correct.
    19
    20   Q.   And that he told Mr. Madrigal that he was lying or -----
    21        A.  That is correct.
    22
    23   Q.   That is the one that was quoted on the film, was it,
    24        someone who was interviewed?
    25        A.  That is correct.
    26
    27   Q.   There is an ecologist that is quoted in the film called
    28        Alexander Bonilla; would that be the one?
    29        A.  I believe so.  I think if he is the one who talks about
    30        the rainforest and deforestation, and makes all these
    31        claims, that 80 per cent of cattle and deforestation; at
    32        present rate figures, he estimates that there would not be
    33        a rainforest in 15 years; that is that person.
    34
    35   Q.   Right.  What did Mr. Madrigal say that that person said to
    36        him?
    37        A.  That he was the wrong, that he had the wrong figures,
    38        and that he was very sorry about the damage that he had
    39        caused to Costa Rica, and that he would be willing to make
    40        a statement saying that he made a mistake.
    41
    42   Q.   I cannot remember whether it is shown in the film now, but
    43        Alberto Zamora, I believe, was quoted in the film as
    44        Chairman of the Cattle Breeder Federation.  Have you heard
    45        of the name Alberto Zamora?
    46        A.  I hear a lot of names.  I am not sure.
    47
    48   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not know where the name Zamora comes from.
    49        I have a name Alberto Amador who says in one interview that
    50        he is President of the Cattle Farmers Association. 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think his name is Alberto Amador Zamora. 
    53        (To the witness)  Have you met him or heard of him?
    54        A.  I do not recall.  I probably have.  I have met with a
    55        lot of cattle associations throughout the world.  There are
    56        too many people to remember.  I do not know.  It does not
    57        sound familiar at this point, though.
    58
    59   Q.   Mr. Madrigal did not say anything to you about him?
    60        A.  No, he did not.

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