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1 could have just put that to Mr. Mallinson. Mr. Mallinson
2 would have agreed to that and added to his gloss and we
3 would have gone on to the next point.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, might I just observe this, Ms. Steel says
6 that all Mr. Hopkins' references appear in his statement.
7 I have, in fact, read his statement. I notice that on the
8 face of this document it is said to be a reference taken
9 from paragraph 8.9.11 of his statement. There is no
10 paragraph 8.9.11 in the version of Mr. Hopkins' statement
11 which I have. What is more, I can find no reference to
12 this document within the body of the statement.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us, in fairness to Mr. Mallinson, leave
15 this argument now. Carry on with your cross-examination
16 doing your best to put a proposition to him without actual
17 reference to the document. If when Mr. Hopkins goes into
18 the witness box, he refers to the document (by which time
19 Mr. Rampton will have a chance to look at it) and if
20 Mr. Rampton decides that he wants to recall Mr. Mallinson
21 in relation to that, then Mr. Mallinson will have to come
22 back. But Mr. Rampton, when he has been able to understand
23 what it is all about, may not take that course and
24 Mr. Mallinson will have left this court for evermore this
25 afternoon. So, follow that course.
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27 MR. RAMPTON: Again, my Lord, I would require a copy of this
28 document if a question is to be based upon it. I know it
29 wastes time, but I am, as your Lordship will understand,
30 acutely conscious of the risk of selective quotation. We
31 had an example this morning with the other Swedish
32 document.
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34 MR. MORRIS: I will not read out the entire document or -----
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you just ---
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38 MR. MORRIS: Not to be selective.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- sift a proposition from it and do not read
41 from the document, just put the proposition.
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43 MR. MORRIS: Yes. (To the witness): Right, extracting from a
44 document from the Skogsindustrierna industry and asking you
45 a question about it: Is it true that Jan Remrod -- who is
46 the head of the Pulp and Paper Making Federation; is that
47 correct?
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He is Director General of this Association.
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51 MR. MORRIS: Yes -- "makes no bones about the facts that it was
52 critics of forestry methods who started the ball rolling as
53 records the influence of forestry on biodiversity and
54 radical changes in forestry practice."
55 A. He may have made such a statement, but I certainly have
56 not seen his statement; it would be very reasonable for him
57 to say that the environmental groups have persistently
58 drawn attention to things that they felt were essential to
59 be changed in forest management, and during the whole of
60 the time while this argument was going on the forestry
