Day 164 - 26 Sep 95 - Page 08


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You might be right, but the time that it was
     3        produced does not matter very much since they are there,
     4        but that is consistent with having them coming into your
     5        hands as Mr. Stein is in the witness box in June or shortly
     6        before, is it not?
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     8   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
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    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not pursue that any further.  I am just
    11        getting the date.
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    13   MR. MORRIS:  I do not remember when Mr. Stein came into the
    14        witness box.  It was just before that time.
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, employment?
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    18   MR. MORRIS:  In fact, just to digress, I think what happened is
    19        that we got this one first, this -- I cannot remember.
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    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It does not matter, whatever the situation is
    22        with regard to Store Hygiene, which you say you think you
    23        served in March 1995, it looks to me as if you did not get
    24        the child labour law printout until June 1995.
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    26   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I cannot remember now.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you may be wrong about March 1995
    29        because on the -- no, you may be right about the Store
    30        Hygiene printout because that did not include the
    31        Washington DC thing.  It looks as if you got the Washington
    32        DC thing sometime in June and you have, therefore, included
    33        that as the last item in your list of proposed amendments
    34        in relation to Store Hygiene.  But it is probably neither
    35        here nor there at the end of the day.
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    37   MR. MORRIS:  I do not honestly know.  I cannot remember exactly.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, employment conditions?
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    41   MR. MORRIS:  Employment conditions:  I was going to respond from
    42        memory what Mr. Rampton said, but I have forgotten a lot.
    43        I have made a few notes.  Mr. Rampton said something about
    44        that it was put to Mr. Stein that he did not know anything
    45        about these allegations.  I do not see what relevance that
    46        has.  That is exactly the reason, therefore, that it was
    47        important they were pleaded and there can be proper
    48        consideration by the parties, and an admission from the
    49        Plaintiffs they they are, indeed, true.
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    51        One of the allegations in the fact sheet is about 
    52        McDonald's, and something that has come up in all the 
    53        evidence on the employment issue, the employment of very
    54        young people and McDonald's relying on, I think there is a
    55        phrase about, profits based upon the labour of young
    56        people.  Here we have a number of clearly specified
    57        particulars about the exploitation of young people, not
    58        just what could be fairly called exploitation by employing
    59        young people but also employing them beyond the legal
    60        regulations.

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