Day 009 - 08 Jul 94 - Page 74
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MR. RAMPTON: That is true, it does.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: 90 per cent of what? If it came to 100
3 I could see that of all recycled content X per cent was
post-consumer and Y per cent was pre-consumer. Maybe
4 there is some loss allowed for there?
A. I would have to take my calculator out again to figure
5 this out. What I would think it is, it is not an average
of averages. I do not think it is that.
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Q. Could the other 10 per cent be factory waste, off-cuts and
7 things of that kind which are not included on the basis
that post-industrial waste is between leaving the
8 manufacturer of the box, for instance, and before the
customer?
9 A. Here is what I think this represents. I think it
represents, if you look at the detail behind this that is
10 not here, I think taking all those items; it is adding up
the post-consumer waste, the actual amounts and pounds and
11 then saying that that is 53 per cent. It is adding up the
actual post-industrial saying that is 37 per cent.
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Q. But of what?
13 A. Of all -- if you were just to look at the
post-consumer column, it is 53 per cent; the balance would
14 be not post-consumer. I cannot give any -- it is not
clear to me.
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MR. RAMPTON: I agree with you. Can you do, again, what you
16 said you would do in relation to some figures of
Mr. Kouchoukos, can you when you get home have another
17 look at this and tell us when you are satisfied for
certain what those average recycled content figures mean,
18 send a letter?
A. Yes, I will.
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MR. MORRIS: Can I point out that the figure for 1991 given in
20 that chart we saw before was 51 per cent total recycled
content. In this chart it does seem to mean that the
21 total recycled content would be 90 per cent.
A. No. This is only looking at those items that are
22 using recycled content.
23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I think the average recycled content
meant all that which is recycled, 53 per cent was came
24 from post-consumer waste, and 37 came from pre-consumer
waste. My problem is that that cannot be right because it
25 only adds up to 90 per cent, provided the second column is
pre-consumer in the sense of everything which becomes
26 waste before it falls into the hands of a customer in one
of your stores. If that were so it should come to a total
27 of a 100. It does not. We do not know what the
explanation is. Maybe it is that the second column,
28 post-industrial waste, does not include that element of
waste which falls on to the box makers floor that is
29 recycled. But we do not know. Mr. Rampton is asking you
to try to find out.
30 A. I will do that. I will review all of our information
on this.
