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1 from the United States before the end of the weekend; the
2 same with any explicit reference to the Humane Slaughter
3 Act in the specifications.
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5 The other task in relation to Costa Rica, I apprehend, is
6 probably best left until Mr. Cesca's affidavit has been
7 served and he can deal with it himself but, again, if your
8 Lordship wishes me do so, I will ask if we can find
9 anything else before Dr. Gomez Gonzales goes home.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think it would be an advantage, quite
12 frankly, if Mr. Rampton spoke to Dr. Gomez Gonzales and
13 asked him, made, as it were, a further check as to whether
14 there are any other kinds of documents he can think of
15 which may not so far have been referred to. The
16 disadvantage or potential disadvantages for Mr. Rampton
17 doing that is that you cannot come across it for the first
18 time in your cross-examination which can be an advantage in
19 some circumstances. Quite frankly, in this case I think it
20 is far outweighed by as soon as possible trying to find out
21 if there are any other documents.
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23 MR. MORRIS: I would prefer him not to talk to him.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In that case, just make enquiries about those
26 three categories only, Mr. Rampton, which we have already
27 come across.
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29 MR. MORRIS: If Mr. Cesca, having searched in South America for
30 documents, has managed to find any, which I am sure he
31 could well have done, it may be useful, if he is coming
32 back Monday morning as has been said, that they are faxed
33 as early as possible before his deadline for his statement
34 which has extended in any event, so that both documents
35 could be faxed before Mr. Gomez leaves the witness box.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: All I will say is that if any further
38 documents are discovered by whomsoever, including
39 Mr. Cesca, about which Dr. Gomez Gonzales might usefully be
40 asked by any party, then obviously if they can be got by
41 Monday, so much the better.
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43 MR. RAMPTON: For all Mr. Morris' sensibilities and whatever he
44 may think, I am and never have been in the habit of
45 coaching witness, telling them what to say or suggesting
46 what they might say. It may be that I shall need his help,
47 or Mrs. Brinley-Codd will need his help, in identifying the
48 sort of documents which he saw and which we, therefore,
49 might be able to help find before the end of the weekend.
50 We need to know what it is we are to ask for; only he knows
51 what he saw. I cannot do that otherwise than by asking him
52 between now and Monday.
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think that falls within the three
55 categories which we have enumerated.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: In that case, my Lord, I would not certainly say
58 anything else to him except "good morning" and "good
59 afternoon".
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