Day 134 - 13 Jun 95 - Page 52


     
     1        fries or whatever.  In other words, they do not become
     2        competent -- again I am trying to help about it -- they do
     3        not become competent in everything all at once; they
     4        acquire the knowledge and skills over time.
     5
     6   Q.   But in order to get a pay rise what areas of competence
     7        would you need to have achieved?  I am sure we could go to
     8        a document, if you could just summarise?  You would have to
     9        be able to not just do the fries, you would have to know
    10        about lots of different things to do with the Company?
    11        A.  Right.  It would depend on how long they had been there
    12        because, broadly speaking, down the left side of the
    13        document there are, if you like, the functional tasks, the
    14        areas, which is where if they do not get the OCL, for
    15        example, as we have talked about before, they will be
    16        automatically graded at a high grade, and that is where
    17        they will not be expected to have covered all the areas.
    18        On the right-hand side are the other things, like turning
    19        up for work, appearance and so on, which do not relate to a
    20        specific area of competence and performance.  Do you see
    21        what I mean?  They are general about being at work.
    22
    23   Q.   I am sorry, I am trying to see -- I do not know where they
    24        are but there are some standard forms.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you have a particular point you want to
    27        make, why not put it anyway?  Then, if you are unhappy with
    28        the answer, we can look at the document if you think it
    29        will help you in your cross-examination.  But quite often,
    30        as you have learned by now, you approach something
    31        indirectly because you are suspicious about what the
    32        witness may or may not answer if you put it directly.  When
    33        you have put it directly, the witness has actually agreed
    34        with your suggestion.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  Would you agree that somebody that is working 40
    37        hours a week at McDonald's is going to get a pay rise in a
    38        shorter space of time because of their experience in
    39        McDonald's than someone who is working 20 hours a week at
    40        McDonald's, in general, not obviously in every particular
    41        case?
    42        A.  No, I would not because -- I understand the point that
    43        you are making, but again because the functional areas will
    44        be marked differently for full-timers and part-timers, the
    45        other areas would be marked based on, you know, the amount
    46        of time the person was there in that frequency.  So, if
    47        they were good at it, even if they were not working as many
    48        hours, if they were punctual when they were punctual, if
    49        you see what I mean?
    50 
    51   Q.   Yes, but you have to pass the job ability areas to get a 
    52        pay rise? 
    53        A.  Not in all of the areas and not at the same rate for
    54        full-time versus part-time.  For the precise detail of
    55        that, you would have had to enquire about that of a
    56        training person because I could not be sure I would be 100
    57        per cent accurate that I am right in those distinctions
    58        that I am making.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How do you think you are doing?

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