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     1        to ensure that we were complying as best as we possibly
     2        could with any of those regulations.
     3
     4   Q.   Yes.  The inference might be drawn that it would be of
     5        interest to the legal department that, in fact, the ads
     6        were coming to an end, query still, whether it would be of
     7        interest to you because they had agreed to terminate them
     8        under pressure or just for information, so that (as we
     9        know) the Attorneys General in a letter were told, were
    10        they not, what the end of the programme was.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  Or simply because they wanted to avoid another
    13        spat with the legal authorities.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, we will see.  Thank you.  Do you want to
    16        ask any questions of Mr. Green this evening?
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  No.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you, Mr. Green.
    21
    22                       (The witness withdrew)
    23
    24        We will not hear any more evidence this afternoon and the
    25        question is where we go tomorrow morning.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I think I have put my position.  It does
    28        not rest principally on the convenience of Mr. Green or,
    29        indeed, on Mr. Hawkes though, from my point of view, their
    30        point of view, it would be of benefit if we could continue
    31        with Mr. Green and finish him.  My problem is not that; it
    32        is that I would, if I am able to do so, like to be able to,
    33        if I can use the word, arm Mr. Hawkes with the information
    34        which I think he may need to answer cross-examination about
    35        the documents which were served by the Defendants
    36        yesterday.
    37
    38        There is not time to do that much before, I would guess,
    39        because one has to go to third parties for information, the
    40        beginning of next week.  The other route -- so far as we
    41        are concerned it is the second choice but it could be done
    42         -- is to recall Mr. Hawkes, he to say:  "Well, I am sorry,
    43        I cannot answer this, I do not know anything about it" and
    44        to go away when the cross-examination is finished and then
    45        to continue with Mr. Green.
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Can you just give me some idea of what
    48        sort of area the factual allegations are in?
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord, I can. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have not seen any of the documents. 
    53        I agree that was my own choice, but it means that I do not
    54        know what their contents are.
    55
    56   MR. RAMPTON:  At the moment they are plainly inadmissible.
    57        They, as I say, in essence, constitute an extension, quite
    58        a significant extension, perhaps, to the statement of
    59        Sue Dibb.
    60

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