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1 criticism here is how many people you have on your
2 payroll. It is tight scheduling to avoid paying any more
3 than you absolutely have to, which so easily leads to these
4 crises.
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6 MR. RAMPTON: It can do. In fact, if one looks at the detail,
7 which the Defendants have not done, of Bath and Heathrow --
8 which one can do on the documents and which we have done
9 and they are analysed in very fine detail -- one finds that
10 it simply is not so. That is the great benefit of those
11 three restaurants having been looked at in such detail.
12 One cannot do quite the same exercise for Colchester
13 because the payroll documents do not exist.
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15 But -- and I do emphasise this point quite strongly -- Bath
16 and Heathrow were not chosen by McDonald's as restaurants
17 and the periods which have been looked at were not chosen
18 by McDonald's. They are random dips into the life of a
19 restaurant - the rates of pay, the length of the hours, the
20 number of shifts and so on and so forth; breaks and
21 everything. What that exercise demonstrates is that the
22 allegations which are based, it now appears, on conjecture
23 rather than fact simply do not hold up.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I must look at those more closely than
26 I have done so far.
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28 MR. RAMPTON: I do urge your Lordship to do that. They are, we
29 would submit, very enlightening on all aspects of the
30 things that the Defendants have been alleging.
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32 MR. MORRIS: Can I just say, Mr. Rampton said that we have not
33 analysed all those documents. We did go through them in
34 evidence to some extent. Also, we just have not had the
35 time to.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not suppose you have.
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39 MR. MORRIS: Certainly, we would do if we had the time.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have made no bones about the fact that I
42 have not yet, but I will do in due course. I am going to
43 go through the evidence myself on those three restaurants,
44 because they are important to your joint case, and
45 Mr. Rampton says if you do take some care with them they
46 have the reverse effect. So, I have to get to the bottom
47 of it one way or the other.
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49 MR. RAMPTON: They do. I raised that, because your Lordship
50 asked me a general question about what is on page 42.
51 Those documents do actually answer that. Colchester, it is
52 accepted, at any rate for a time, did have problems with
53 recruitment. Hence, it had problems of understaffing.
54 There was a time at Heathrow when recruitment was something
55 of a problem.
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57 If one is looking at the question in relation to Bath and
58 Heathrow - was the restaurant habitually understaffed, were
59 people, in consequence of that, having to work longer hours
60 than they should have done? All the questions which flow
