Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 47


     
     1   Q.   I thought these were sheds with walls?
     2        A.  Yes, they have walls to about a metre height.  Then
     3        from the metre up there is the screens and there are the
     4        curtains.
     5
     6   Q.   What the mesh is from a metre up?
     7        A.  Yes.  That is the normal house.  There are some
     8        variations but that is what we normally have for the units.
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:  So some have the mesh and some do not?
    11        A.  The mesh usually on the up; now, if you travel to other
    12        countries it is all mesh.
    13
    14   Q.   What, places like Brazil and countries like that where it
    15        is much hotter?
    16        A.  No, not in Brazil, no.
    17
    18   Q.   What about within the USA?  I mean, within the USA some of
    19        them have mesh and some have not?
    20        A.  Yes, that is correct.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is all very interesting but what are we
    23        on now with the walls?  We were on the lighting.  Are we
    24        still on lighting or have we gone on to something else?
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:  I am just trying to see what the conditions are,
    27        actually.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I dare say, but I have bothered to make a
    30        list of all the topics I can imagine which are at issue in
    31        relation to rearing and slaughter of animals as part of the
    32        last week's work.  I want to know to which this relates,
    33        because we have gone far enough now to know what all the
    34        topics of possible criticism, concern, anxiety, call it
    35        what you will, are and really to focus the evidence on
    36        them.  So, for instance, rather than just say:  "What
    37        happens in the USA?" You can ask, as you have done, about
    38        lighting, or you can ask whether they get too hot or too
    39        hold.  You have asked about debeaking.  I think under
    40        rearing and slaughter for poultry, pigs and cattle, I have
    41        probably got about 40 topics.  At the moment, if this is
    42        not lighting, help me by telling me what it is.
    43
    44   MS. STEEL:  The witness brought it up and it was the first time
    45        it has been mentioned.  It was brought up in respect of
    46        lighting, so I was -----
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are concentrating on lighting?
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:   As I say, it is the first time it was mentioned, so 
    51        I was trying to see what it was. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I am right with my 40 or 50 topics, you
    54        have quite enough to keep going on there.  If you are
    55        exploring, it would help me to know what you are looking
    56        for.
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:  It is basically, I mean, it was brought up under
    59        lighting and I am just continuing on that, really.
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