Day 068 - 16 Dec 94 - Page 52


     
     1        follow, though, the same principles and the same policies
     2        regarding the use of meat from non-rainforest areas.  If
     3        that is the case, I do not have any problem with that.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will have our five-minute break now, and
     6        then we will resume.  I would like to go on to about five
     7        past four.  That is late enough on Friday.  When you start
     8        off, find a natural break.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  I hope we will finish with this whole area.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, would it possible for us to ask, during
    13        the short break, Dr. Gomez Gonzalez what his plans are?
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  You can ask anything about the
    16        organisation, his availability, and so on.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  Because the speed that we have been going at
    19        today, I find -----
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not make any comment about that.  Just
    22        make your enquiry.
    23
    24                       (Short Adjournment)
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  If we can go back to the country animal welfare
    27        forms:  I do not know whether you still have them to hand.
    28        Do you remember we were going through them?
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They are in yellow XII at tab 16.
    31        A.  What binder?
    32
    33   Q.   Yellow XII.
    34        A.  Moscow?
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think, believe it or not, we had got up to
    37        Turkey which was the E, the fifth one.  Then we got
    38        slightly side tracked for a whole day to rainforest.  Do
    39        you happen to know where the imports of beef into Turkey
    40        are from?
    41        A.  No, I do not.
    42
    43   Q.   If we go over the page to Norway:  Norway do not use prods,
    44        electric prods, nor does Sweden on the next one either.
    45        Are there regulations against their use in those countries?
    46        A.  I do not know.
    47
    48   Q.   You never asked them?
    49        A.  No, I have not asked them.
    50 
    51   Q.   Do you know where Norway gets pork and chicken from?  There 
    52        is no information about pork and chicken for Norway, do you 
    53        know why?
    54        A.  No, I do not know.
    55
    56   Q.   You did not contact them to find out?
    57        A.  No.
    58
    59   Q.   They do have them in the stores, though, yes, Chicken
    60        McNuggetts and things like that?

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