Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 56


     
     1        A.  No, I do not remember at all.  You are talking about
     2        Caledonian Road?
     3
     4   Q.   Yes.
     5        A.  No, I do not remember when I saw you there.
     6
     7   Q.   Do you remember if you saw me there at all?
     8        A.  Yes, I do remember seeing you there, but I do not
     9        remember when that was.  I attended quite a lot of meetings
    10        and they have sort of blurred into one over the years.
    11
    12   Q.   According to your notes, the first meeting that I attended
    13        that you recorded was 1st March 1990, which was ---
    14
    15   MR. RAMPTON:  No, no, my Lord.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  -- at Caledonian Road, unless I am mistaken, is
    18        three months -- sorry -- six months after you started
    19        attending meetings?
    20        A.  Well, if that is in my notes, then I would have to
    21        accept that.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are pushing at an open door here, you
    24        know.  If it is in his notes, he is going to accept it; and
    25        if something he says is contradicted by his notes, he is
    26        going to say, "Well, I have misremembered now all these
    27        years later."
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  In terms of the involvement in London Greenpeace
    30        for those six months where I attended a couple of public
    31        meetings only, I had no involvement in the group
    32        whatsoever, did I?
    33        A.  Well, I do not know.  I was not with members of the
    34        group 24 hours a day.  Your name was certainly one that
    35        came up within meetings; you were certainly talked about,
    36        and people had obviously seen you outside the forum of
    37        those meetings, because you were talked about.  So how much
    38        influence you exerted on the direction of the group,
    39        I cannot say.
    40
    41   Q.   But I was not involved in the group, was I?
    42        A.  Well, I do not know.  I do not know -----
    43
    44   Q.   You do not know if I was involved in the group?
    45        A.  Of course not.  I did not stay with everybody in the
    46        group all the time.
    47
    48   Q.   OK.  In terms of your recording -----
    49        A.  In terms of meetings, then if my notes say that you
    50        were not present, then I can only assume you were not 
    51        present. 
    52 
    53   Q.   The reality is, is it not, Mr. Pocklington, that for the
    54        bulk of the time that you were attending and involved, that
    55        you were involved with London Greenpeace, I was not
    56        involved in any real way at all?
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He cannot say that.  He has already said
    59        that.  It is a matter for me to decide, if necessary, when
    60        I have heard all the evidence, all the witnesses.  You are

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