Day 155 - 14 Jul 95 - Page 64


     
     1        then say so, but if you can give me some idea it might be
     2        helpful?
     3        A.  I really could not tell you at all.
     4
     5   Q.   Very well.
     6
     7   MR. MORRIS:  I think we have to bear in mind at this time as far
     8        as I remember a differential would be eroded every time
     9        there was a national pay increase.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  One way or the other it was just in case
    12        Mr. Giardina could remember because, so far as the UK is
    13        concerned, for all the arguments which have been going
    14        backwards and forwards about increases, I have got no
    15        feeling in my mind and, in fact, Mr. Nicholson told me he
    16        could not tell me what the average crew wage was at any
    17        given moment in time, and that is why I asked Mr. Giardina
    18        in case he could help.
    19
    20        If you have any of your witnesses who are actually going to
    21        come here who worked with McDonald's for a significant
    22        period of time, that is did not leave, say, within three
    23        months or six months, and they can actually remember what
    24        they were earning when the starting rate was such and such,
    25        it might be helpful for you to find out but when you do
    26        find out give notice of it to Barlows before the witness is
    27        called into the witness box.  It may be there already and
    28        I have not remembered it.
    29
    30        You do not have to adduce the evidence, even if you get it,
    31        unless you think it is helpful to the case.  But if by one
    32        route or another it is available to you, and you think it
    33        helps, for instance, you can find someone who was there for
    34        18 months and had worked they say quite well and was still
    35        getting œ2.35 when the basic was œ2.20, then that is the
    36        sort of thing we ought to be looking for.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  If it is any help, as far as he are concerned, Mr.
    39        Alimi will be a perfect case because we have his wage
    40        slips.  He was meant to be an excellent and happy worker in
    41        the training squad and, as far as I know, he got hardly any
    42        pay rise whatsoever.  We can check that.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can check, if you wish, with some of the
    45        others, and particularly you can check, if you wish, with
    46        some of the others whose credit may not be in issue, in
    47        other words, they are going to give evidence on a point
    48        where the accuracy of their recollection may not may be
    49        challenged but not necessarily their credit rate.  For all
    50        I know, Mr. Alimi's credit may be. 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  Except that we have his wage slips so we are not 
    53        relying on recollection.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is quite right.
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  Also we have a perfectly glowing report from his
    58        Manager.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is quite a good point.

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