Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 23


     
     1        A.  Not exactly.  I was seeing if there was anything to do
     2        with social status, for example, unemployed or student.
     3        It is limited; back on table 17 again, the first part of
     4        table 17 on page 16 gives a little on social class.  Here,
     5        they have merged classes and analysed them differently,
     6        which does not help our case very well, but class A and B
     7        have been merged.  Those tend to be the higher income
     8        groups.  C1 is normally a lower income, but white collar;
     9        C2 lower income manual; D and E tend towards the
    10        unemployed and pension levels, but that is not clear from
    11        here.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We can possibly take out -----
    14        A.  I do not think the data is particularly strong to
    15        support the HOTAG figures.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The point is, Mr. Morris, that those figures
    18        might have been significant to your case but, with
    19        absolutely no disrespect to Dr. Lobstein, it is going to
    20        be difficult for me to attach any weight to them unless we
    21        have seen the source.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  This is the HOTAG figures?
    24        A.  Yes, I agree with you; I regret the passing into
    25        history of that particular source.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  Maybe we can track it down.  It is possible it is
    28        in some library.  If we come on to Grazing in Peckham,
    29        I think Helen will deal with this.
    30
    31   MS. STEEL:   If you look in the blue -- we have a copy of it
    32        anyway -- it is in the kingfisher blue files; it is
    33        No. 75.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you see the bright blue folders?
    36
    37   THE WITNESS:  I have my own.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What number again?
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:   75.  Were you involved with this survey?  Did you
    42        have any role in it?
    43        A.  Yes, indeed.  I supervised, along with a colleague of
    44        mine, a qualified dietician, I supervised the collection
    45        of data and analysis of data for this which was undertaken
    46        by a student called Fiona Carruthers, whose name appears
    47        on the cover sheet.
    48
    49   Q.   Was there any special reason why Peckham was chosen?
    50        A.  Well, following on from the arguments we have already 
    51        heard this morning, we were interested in whether there 
    52        were pockets of high consumption of fastfoods that would 
    53        be against the average, that would be quite different to
    54        the stated averages for the country which we were being
    55        led to believe were not particularly serious or
    56        significant; that is to say, if (as we have found) younger
    57        people and those in lower social income were consuming
    58        more fastfoods, exactly how much more and were there some
    59        who might be consuming really quite high quantities
    60        sufficient for us to consider it a public health concern.

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