Day 183 - 03 Nov 95 - Page 11


     
     1        Michelle Wetli can begin on that day.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Those are your witnesses in relation to
     4        Canada?
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  They are.  There is a possibility that I shall
     7        seek your Lordship's leave, as I need it now because we are
     8        all out of time with our Civil Evidence Act notices, we may
     9        need to serve some Civil Evidence Act notices but they do
    10        not affect the evidence of my two Canadian witnesses.  They
    11        affect the cross-examination of Sarah Ingliss.  Mr. Roy
    12        Ellis has made a Civil Evidence Act statement and he is in
    13        yellow.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  XIII?
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  Yellow XIII, yes.  I will give your Lordship the
    18        number in a moment -- he is No. 34 and 34B of volume yellow
    19        XIII.  He has two statements apparently.
    20
    21   MS. STEEL:   If I could ask, if Mr. Rampton is saying that he
    22        has some statements that he is intending to use, I think it
    23        would be helpful if they were disclosed prior to these
    24        witnesses getting into the witness box next week so that,
    25        if we do want to, we could ask these witnesses ----
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  I think, if I may say so, that is perfectly fair.
    28        I will not have them -- I have not got them -- and I will
    29        not have them until Saturday morning.  But if they arrive,
    30        as I expect, as it were, by pigeon post from Canada on
    31        Saturday morning, then we will and should, I believe, send
    32        them straight over to the Defendants as soon as we get
    33        them.  I hope I will get them at about 11 o'clock on
    34        Saturday morning.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will wait and see what happens in respect
    37        of that.  Then, Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris have Miss Ingliss,
    38        Sean Derby and Gerald C. Henderson, is that right?  Have
    39        I missed any other witnesses for your side, Ms. Steel or
    40        Mr. Morris?
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  No.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What about documents, because I have not made
    45        a check through again about documentation.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, the Canadian documents are in volume XIV,
    48        the pink files, at tab 94, but tab 94 is very fat.  One has
    49        14 subdivisions in it.  It goes right to the end of the
    50        file. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Unless there is anything else we must deal 
    53        with .....
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  There is one other thing I would like to raise.
    56        It is not a serious thing at all.  I notice Ms. Steel had a
    57        difficulty of reading them, I do not know why and I am not
    58        going to enquire.  I wonder whether it would help the
    59        Defendants if somebody, perhaps even I, could lay hands on
    60        a lecturn for them.  It has occurred to me some time ago.

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