Day 068 - 16 Dec 94 - Page 55


     
     1        Everything else outside of that line, we have no control
     2        over where they export their products to.
     3
     4   Q.   So they export to the EC but that is not for McDonald's
     5        use?
     6        A.  That is correct.
     7
     8   Q.   So under the chicken section there, Cargill (Argentina)
     9        exports to McDonald's in Germany, Holland and Hong Kong; is
    10        that correct?
    11        A.  That is correct, but that is only raw materials.
    12
    13   Q.   Not finished products?
    14        A.  Not finished products, no.  We have nothing to do with
    15        that business.  Just like in Frigorifico Rioplatense,
    16        Cargill in Argentina is a very big facility of which we are
    17        a very small part of it, but still we have our own lines.
    18        They do themselves export to other countries but our
    19        products are not exported, our finished products.
    20
    21   Q.   If you just cast your mind back to Brazil, Braslo, they are
    22        EC approved, are they?
    23        A.  I am not sure.
    24
    25   Q.   You do not know?
    26        A.  I do not know.
    27
    28   Q.   Braslo:  Is it slaughtering, deboning and processing at
    29        Braslo?
    30        A.  No.
    31
    32   Q.   What is it then?
    33        A.  It is only deboning and processing.
    34
    35   Q.   Do they produce only for McDonald's?
    36        A.  As I mentioned before, the patties that they produce,
    37        the finished products that they produced, they are
    38        dedicated to McDonald's.
    39
    40   Q.   Yes, but what about the general deboning raw, materials, do
    41        other companies -----
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where is that taking us?
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  It takes us into whether we accept the evidence
    46        that when something is exported to a country it is not
    47        going to McDonald's.
    48
    49   Q.   Yes, but what has the deboning got to do about it?
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:  What I am saying is deboned materials, before they 
    52        are processed, are some of those materials also sold to 
    53        other companies from the Braslo plant?
    54        A.  We do not require Braslo to not sell or sell whatever
    55        they do not use for us.  So, they are their own control of
    56        deciding.  If it is not for us, they have the choice to
    57        sell it where they can.
    58
    59   Q.   Right, so they will be selling deboned raw materials to
    60        other people?

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