Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 31


     
     1        the tabs, while we are there?  We keep going away from them
     2        and coming back, and it is difficult to remember what has
     3        been said about previous countries.
     4
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Let us see if we can just get through these
     6        documents, then.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Try and concentrate on the ones which really
     9        you think you may have some ground on, possible export from
    10        a rainforest country, because that is what this section is
    11        really about, is it not?
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  This questioning is, anyway, yes.  It was also
    14        about animal welfare, but I think that has largely been
    15        covered.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I know.  But your questioning on these
    18        tabs -- I am putting aside "Jungle Burger" for a moment --
    19        is really, if I can put it this way, to see if you can get
    20        either evidence or anything which might point towards the
    21        possibility of exports of beef from a rainforest country,
    22        then you can look at what part of that rainforest country,
    23        to any of McDonald's operations.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  If we turn over to Panama.
    26        Frigorifico, that is a slaughterhouse; yes?
    27        A.  No.  That is a processing facility in that particular
    28        plant.  They also have a slaughterhouse separate from that
    29        that facility, which is also called the same.
    30
    31   Q.   So what does that say -- "Mangrafor"?
    32        A.  "Mangrafor".  That is the complete name.
    33
    34   Q.   Again, when it says "product exported to: none", does that
    35        mean finished products?
    36        A.  That is correct.
    37
    38   Q.   But, presumably, they export non-finished products?
    39        A.  They do.  That supplier exports to -- I do not know,
    40        but I know that it is a US DA approved facility.  So they
    41        export to the US and have the potential to export to just
    42        about every country.
    43
    44   Q.   Do you know of any McDonald's suppliers outside of the US
    45        that Frigorifico export to?
    46        A.  No, I do not, no.
    47
    48   Q.   If we move to Mexico -- I think we have generally dealt
    49        with Mexico.  We can move on from that.
    50 
    51        Just before we leave Mexico, in Mexico is some meat from 
    52        the USA shipped to Mexico as deboned or non-finished 
    53        product? Sorry.  Does meat, before the finished product in
    54        the States, ever get moved to Mexico for deboning,
    55        carcasses to be deboned, or whatever, and then taken back
    56        to the United States, because of labour being cheaper in
    57        Mexico?
    58        A.  You are speaking generally, right?
    59
    60   Q.   In general?

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