Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 49
1 facility for people who needed packaging?
2 A. Widely available?
3
4 Q. Yes.
5 A. I would have said the late 80s, but I could not be more
6 specific than that.
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8 Q. Do you know -- again if you do not know, say so -- your
9 Scottish manufacturer or supplier of paper bags has been
10 including some recycled content in those bags for something
11 like 13 years; is that right?
12 A. Or more.
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14 Q. Or more?
15 A. Yes.
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17 Q. Yes. Is there, as far as you know, any technical
18 difference of difficulty between the production of, let us
19 say, a paper bag on the one hand and a fry carton, which is
20 going to come into contact with the actual potatoes, on the
21 other hand; is it technically easier, the same, or more
22 difficult?
23 A. I would have said that the type of fry carton that we
24 are using, the 72 per cent recycled carton which is a
25 sandwich between two layers of virgin board, was
26 technically more difficult to produce.
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28 Q. Can I ask you this? Do you have any anxiety or concern
29 that, so far as the use of recycled paper is concerned,
30 McDonald's were a late arrival on the environmental scene?
31 A. I have no concern.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think in case what I said is
34 misinterpreted, I will say what the recollection was, that
35 there was a depot in the town on the fringes of which
36 I lived; it was about 1950 and if you collected as much
37 newspaper together as you possibly could and tied it in a
38 big bundle, you could take it down, put it on an enormous
39 set of scales and get a few coppers for it. That is all.
40 I do not recall there actually being any newspaper there
41 and it may be that recycling of newspaper has been going
42 for very much longer than other kinds of shiney paper, and
43 so on?
44 A. Well, I totally concur because I used to do the same
45 thing, my Lord, with newspapers, but I think the question
46 was when was recycling widely -----
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48 MR. RAMPTON: Widely available.
49 A. Widely available. I would not have said recycling
50 newspapers at that time made recycling generally widely
51 available.
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53 Q. No, I did qualify it by saying so far as something who uses
54 packaging is concerned?
55 A. OK.
56
57 Q. What his Lordship's newspapers and, I would have to add,
58 mine and yours what actually made into in the end, I have
59 absolutely no idea.
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