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     1        A.  Well, styrofoam or foam is used in potting plants in
              the soil.  Now, I cannot say whether that really has any
     2        beneficial effect, but I do not think that in a landfill
              it is particularly relevant, that it is somehow -- that
     3        McDonald's foam is going to contribute to beneficial
              effects on the landfill.
     4
         Q.   So really you are saying it is not an answer?
     5        A.  I think that is basically my point.
 
     6   Q.   So are you saying they were clutching at straws really to
              justify using landfills?
     7        A.  Well, actually that is the title of an article that we
              wrote about McDonalds' response and actually the plastics
     8        industry response to the McToxics campaign.  In terms of
              that -- I just would like to amplify that, if I may?
     9
              By 1990 the McToxics campaign was, in 1989/90, the
    10        McToxics campaign was having a very broad effect on the
              industry, at least, in so far as we were able to tell.
    11        Then I would call your attention to a document within the
              collection that begins:  "Polystyrene Fact Sheet".
    12
         Q.   This is No. 5?
    13        A.  Right.  I would have you go in ------
 
    14   Q.   Your numbering is different to ours.
              A.  Eight, nine pages.
    15
         Q.   It is probably 16, 17 pages in ours then?
    16        A.  No, I am counting each side so it is the same.
 
    17   Q.   Right, eight or nine pages?
              A.  In the top right corner are three letters, SPI.
    18
         Q.   SPI?
    19        A.  In the left-hand corner it says:  The Society of the
              Plastics Industry Inc. etc. etc. Larry L Thomas,
    20        President.
 
    21   Q.   Can you hold on a second?  What does it look like?  Can
              you show us?
    22        A.  Yes.
 
    23   Q.   Yes.  Are you sure it is in the Polystyrene Fact Sheet?
              A.  Yes, if it is not, then ----
    24
         Q.   I cannot find it in that one.  I know which document you
    25        are referring to.
              A.  It is also referred to in toto in George Baggett's 
    26        account of migration. 
  
    27   Q.   It is about 25 actually, No. 25.  I apologise for not
              numbering these.
    28
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I have it anyway.
    29
         MR. MORRIS:  Is this from Larry Thomas?
    30        A.  Well, it is signed by Larry Thomas.
 

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