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     2   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think I was -----
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have a witness here whom you have tested
     5        over quite a long period of time.  We know what his views
     6        are.  I will consider all the various publications.
     7        I will consider your witnesses who will express their own
     8        views.  Are we really getting much further as to whether
     9        it was accepted medical fact at the time of publication of
    10        this leaflet or whether it was generally accepted by
    11        asking questions of Dr. Arnott?  That is what I would like
    12        you to reflect on.
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    14   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  We are very close to the end, you will be
    15        pleased to know.
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, I am not trying to bring your
    18        cross-examination to an end.  May I just say this
    19        generally -- I think I have said something before -- part
    20        of the purpose of cross-examination is to test the
    21        witness, but you can reach a stage where you put what you
    22        have to put.  The witness has said more than once what his
    23        stand is.  Then it has to be left for me to judge on all
    24        the evidence what I accept and do not accept.
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    26   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just sit down and have a bit of a
    29        discussion.  (Pause).
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    31   MS. STEEL:   Sorry, do you think we could go outside and have a
    32        chat or something?
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  Just to let you know, we are thinking of finishing
    35        here.  We just want to know if there are one or two more
    36        things that we want to -----
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will go for a little walk along the
    39        corridor and I will come back.
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    41   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know how long Mr. Rampton will take with
    42        re-examination.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  About five minutes.
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is I will come back at
    47        quarter past 12.  In the meantime, what I suggest is that
    48        Dr. Arnott uses that 10 minutes to look through the
    49        Campbell summary and he can begin to flip through this as
    50        well, the WHO matter. 
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    52   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord.  That is very quickly done; it is 
    53        section 3.3.
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    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are there particular parts you would like to
    56        him to look at?
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    58   MR. RAMPTON:  I would like him to read pages 62 to 67 which
    59        start at 3.3 at the top of page 62.  They are short
    60        pages.  I would also like him to have a quick look at the

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