Day 020 - 28 Jul 94 - Page 68


     
     1
         Q.   Is that under the minimum recommended current?
     2        A.  Let us see what the figure is, if somebody can help
              us.
     3
         Q.   It is the same page. It is on page 281, it says 1.3 amp,
     4        so.
 
     5   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it is  .447, or .45?
              A.  Could you repeat the question, Ms. Steel?
     6
         MS. STEEL:   The minimum recommended current comes under the
     7        code of practice No. 64?
              A.  I am with you.
     8
         Q.   There is a chart.  You have the chart?
     9        A.  That is correct.
 
    10   Q.   At the bottom it says 1.3 amp?
              A.  Yes, that is correct.
    11
         Q.   So this was under the minimum?
    12        A.  It was under the minimum as stated there.  There are,
              in fact, two recommendations being put out; one is 1.3
    13        amps, such as here; another one is .4 amps when the
              electrodes span the head of the animal.  This 1.3 amps
    14        would be relevant to where the neck is spanned.
 
    15   Q.   The neck being spanned is what was going on here, was it
              not?
    16        A.  That is what it says, yes.
 
    17   Q.   So that the relevant figure would be 1.3?
              A.  In order to achieve an instantaneous stun, yes.  Can
    18        we expand on this because you pointed out the first
              sentence of that sub-paragraph which is on page 9.
    19
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Paragraph 3, is it?
    20        A.  Could you repeat that?
 
    21   Q.   Is it paragraph 3 you are looking at?
              A.  I am looking at page.
    22
         Q.   Comment 3.  Where are you looking?
    23        A.  I am on part one, page 9, of my submission "At the
              Start of Stunning".
    24
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    25        A.  The first sentence reads: "At the start of stunning
              the tongs were usually placed across the neck of the pig. 
    26        Once the pig had fallen to the ground the tongs were 
              repositioned with one electrode over an eye, and the other 
    27        electrode behind the opposite ear."  In that placement the
              electrodes span the brain, but in the initial placement
    28        across the neck they would not span the brain.
 
    29   MS. STEEL:   So they would get pain from the first stun?
              A.  What would happen, we suspect -- this is speculation
    30        because it was not established during the inspection
              procedure -- what could happen, is that a proportion of

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