Day 272 - 02 Jul 96 - Page 45
1 MS. STEEL: Okay. No further questions.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. Do you have anything more to ask
4 Mr. Gravett?
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6 MR. MORRIS: No.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, thank you.
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10 Cross-examined by MR. RAMPTON
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12 Q. Mr. Gravett, you say that so far as you are concerned there
13 was no anti-McDonald's demonstration at the East Finchley
14 head office of McDonald's in this country in October 1987;
15 is that right?
16 A. Yes, that is true.
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18 Q. And you say the reason was that there was a hurricane in
19 the early hours of October 16th 1987 which so disrupted
20 travel arrangements that nobody was able to get there; is
21 that right?
22 A. Yes. I remember it being discussed after that day.
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24 Q. Well, I am not interested in what you discussed
25 afterwards. You did not go, did you?
26 A. No.
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28 MR. MORRIS: I think the witness should be allowed to answer
29 questions in his own way.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think it is right that if you were going to
32 say what someone else said to you --
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34 MR. MORRIS: It is cross-examination. He should be entitled.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That does not follow at all. There are the
37 same rules of admissibility or inadmissibility. But, Mr.
38 Rampton, if you are challenging him on why he said
39 something, he is entitled to say what was said to him.
40 That is not evidence of the truth of what was said to him,
41 but he can identify it as the reason, can he not, why he
42 has said what he has?
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44 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, he can.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a moment. Mr. Rampton said that
47 you said the reason was there was a hurricane which so
48 disrupted travel arrangements that no one was able to get
49 there. And then you said I remember it being discussed
50 after that day. Were you going on to say anything more?
51 A. Yes, I remember it being discussed in the group,
52 probably the following week, and no one said that they were
53 able to get there. So as far as we were concerned, there
54 was not a London Greenpeace demonstration that day.
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56 MR. RAMPTON: Can I ask you to look at - my Lord, for the
57 purposes of my cross-examination, I do not know whether
58 this is difficult for Mr. Gravett, he will need -- well, he
59 will need pink 1A. Maybe he can deal with it sitting
60 down. It might be easier for him standing up, but that is
