Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 89
1 fits together.
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3 Q. Right?
4 A. I think the other point that is perhaps worth making,
5 if I may my Lord, is that when one is thinking about some
6 of these exposure to cancers and things of that nature,
7 that environmental pollutants can, of course, be one of the
8 elements that will damage the DNA, but not necessarily be
9 responsible for the progression of the cancer.
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11 Q. Right. I will read out --
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Give a reference if you can.
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15 MR. MORRIS: The WHO pamphlet, and Mr. Rampton read to you one
16 part?
17 A. Yes.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you have that still up there? It was the
20 one Mrs. Brinley-Codd handed to you because it was not at
21 the back?
22 A. I think, yes. I do.
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24 MR. MORRIS: Do you have page 67 which was that table 11 which
25 was referred to?
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The one with crosses on. Page 67.
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29 MR. MORRIS: Do you have that page?
30 A. Yes, I do.
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32 Q. We have been through the chart before. If we look at the
33 middle paragraph starting: "High fat intake is associated
34 with cancer at several sites."
35 A. Yes.
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37 Q. "Certainty about the optimum intake in relation to cancer
38 must await feature research, such as control trials. In
39 the meantime, international correlation analysis and other
40 epidemiological data indicates that fact intakes of less,"
41 and I emphasize less, "less than 30% of total energy, will
42 be needed," I emphasize, "to attain a low risk of fat
43 related cancers." Does that seem to you to indicate or
44 not to indicate a causal relationship between fats and
45 cancer; certain cancers in the eyes of the World Health
46 Organisation report?
47 A. Well, it indicates that in the very broadest sense of
48 causality, I think you understand that view, that reduction
49 in saturated fats will remove a significant part of the
50 cause of that cancer, yes.
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52 Q. Right?
53 A. I think that was the view that was taken by the
54 Scottish report I referred to earlier because they gave
55 figures on it.
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57 Q. Right. It just says at the bottom of the page:
58 "Nevertheless evidence indicates that a diet that is low
59 in total and saturated foods, high in farmed foods,
60 especially green and yellow vegetables and citrus fruits
