Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 10


     
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     2   Q.   They do bleed?
     3        A.  A little bit.
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     5   Q.   The nail?
     6        A.  The nail?
     7
     8   Q.   A nail?
     9        A.  Oh, no, the nail, underneath the nail, you have to
    10        separate that, that is why it bleeds.
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    12   Q.   That is the finger?
    13        A.  Yes.
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    15   Q.   I am talking about when you cut your nail, it does not
    16        bleed, does it?
    17        A.  No.
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    19   Q.   Whereas the chicken's beak can?
    20        A.  The beak itself, no.
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    22   Q.   You said yesterday that you have seen it bleeding
    23        sometimes?
    24        A.  Yes, but when you just like when you cut the nail,
    25        I said if it is done improperly, you can trim more than the
    26        beak.
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    28   Q.   When you spoke to Tysons last night, did you check up about
    29        the debeaking of battery chickens?
    30        A.  I have never seen the debeaking, no, I did not check
    31        about that.
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    33   Q.   Did you not talk about that at all?
    34        A.  No.
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    36   Q.   If you could turn to this article?
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where am I going to put these at the end of
    39        the day?
    40
    41   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I suggest maybe the only appropriate
    42        place for it is behind Miss Druce' statement.
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    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Would you like me to put them there?
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    46   MS. STEEL:  Yes.
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will do that, but I think we had better
    49        give them some kind of marking.  I will put an "A" in the
    50        top right-hand corner. 
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    52   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it is 1B No. 3 in section B, blue.  If 
    53        Ms. Steel is moving to one of these other documents, there
    54        are two things:  Unless I am corrected, neither of these
    55        appears to have to be a scientific paper in any way.  They
    56        both appear to be taken from popular magazines, if I may
    57        call it that, or specialist animal welfare magazines,
    58        perhaps.  I am not at all sure that they can be put into
    59        evidence in cross-examination.
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