Day 078 - 26 Jan 95 - Page 69


     
     1        A.  No, in the McKey situation, ever since day one, if you
     2        look at the box it has a date time stamp on the box.  From
     3        day one, if you tell me the time that that box was made
     4        from records back in the laboratory, I can tell you whose
     5        meat is in there.
     6
     7   Q.   Which abattoirs?
     8        A.  Which abattoirs, and whose blended in there.
     9        Now then, before traceability you cannot go back before the
    10        abattoir.
    11
    12   Q.   Right.
    13        A.  Now you can.
    14
    15   Q.   So before January this year you would not be able to -- did
    16        you say January this year -- go back?
    17        A.  Before traceability, yes.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you mean this January, January this year?
    20        A.  Yes, sir.
    21
    22   Q.   1995?
    23        A.  1995.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:   You looked at the McDonald's Animal Welfare Policy
    26        yesterday; do you remember that?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   Q.   You also mentioned yesterday that in Europe McDonald's have
    30        a Beef Committee?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   Q.   Which has set out a document about animal welfare, do you
    34        remember that?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   Is that the same document or is that -----
    38        A.  No, that is a different document.
    39
    40   Q.   That is a different document.
    41        A.  The Beef Committee is just trying to standardise the
    42        forms that are being used throughout Europe, essentially.
    43
    44   Q.   So they are drawing up a Europeon-wide animal welfare
    45        policy, are they?
    46        A.  No, not just on policy, not animal welfare -- the form
    47        on reporting.  For example, that inspection form that we
    48        were looking at, that will go all over Europe now.
    49
    50   Q.   But they include animal welfare? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   And hygiene as well?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   Did you say that this document -- I mean, was it in a draft
    57        form when you saw it or is it a final version?
    58        A.  A draft.
    59
    60   Q.   A draft.  As far as you are aware, it is not in operation

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