Day 060 - 02 Dec 94 - Page 24
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2 (Short Adjournment)
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4 MR. MORRIS: Just a further question on that document. You read
5 it carefully overnight, did you?
6 A. Yes, I read it.
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8 Q. Would you now accept that is a broadly accurate picture of
9 the development of concern over CFCs?
10 A. I honestly do not know if it is accurate. Certainly
11 some of the dates are familiar to me, not all of them are,
12 but whether it is broadly accurate, I would not like to
13 say.
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15 Q. I am not talking about the exact details for every point,
16 but in terms of the development of concern, would that be a
17 broadly accurate summary?
18 A. In terms of development of concern, yes. I think one
19 item is missing, however, and that was the UK decision in
20 July 1987 to make a plan to phase out of CFCs in the UK.
21 That was ahead of the Montreal Protocol in September 1987.
22 The Montreal Protocol itself only gives a timetable to
23 phase out CFCs. We are ahead of that plan by a long way.
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25 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, this is a document which has no date on
26 it. It appears to have emanated from what I might call the
27 real authentic Greenpeace organisation, as far as the
28 Defendants are concerned, in July of this year. If it is
29 to be asserted that there is an accurate account,
30 chronological account, of what Mr. Morris calls "concerns
31 about CFCs", then I would have thought it was necessary for
32 the Defendants to call evidence to prove it to be so;
33 otherwise the only admissible evidence we have in this
34 court about the development of scientific and public
35 concern is that given to your Lordship by Professor Duxbury
36 in July.
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38 MS. STEEL: Can I just say, Mr. Rampton has just made reference
39 to the real or authentic Greenpeace. For the record,
40 I would like to correct the picture. I just want to say
41 that London Greenpeace has actually existed in this country
42 for longer than Greenpeace UK.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Precisely what I was going to say.
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46 MR. MORRIS: That is recognised by Greenpeace UK. The second
47 point, I think, unfortunately for Mr. Rampton -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not argue the weight of things now.
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51 MR. MORRIS: On this document -----
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will look at all the evidence in due course
54 and see where it takes me.
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56 MR. MORRIS: I would argue that whereas the detail cannot be
57 used as evidence, the broad picture of the development of
58 the concern has been accepted by the witness, which is the
59 most important thing.
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