Day 166 - 28 Sep 95 - Page 47


     
     1        A.  Certainly, although I would not be able to give you
     2        names.
     3
     4   Q.   You think that did happen?
     5        A.  Very possibly, yes.
     6
     7   Q.   People came?
     8        A.  These people would work for you and, as I said, do the
     9        night shift, a weekend day shift, and then if those people
    10        are with you months, years, they get good at their job.
    11
    12   Q.   To be quite candid, it sounds to me as if you think it
    13        probably did happen but you cannot specifically remember
    14        any particular occasion?
    15        A.  Yes, without naming somebody's name.
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:   How often were you advertising for jobs or were you
    18        taking people on -- probably, most importantly, how often
    19        were you taking people on?
    20        A.  Summer time, at Christmas time.  Perhaps if some of
    21        your numbers, if you thought that you needed to boost your
    22        numbers up; it might be perhaps any time.
    23
    24   Q.   When you were talking about the 50 people being
    25        interviewed, that would be something in the summer, would
    26        it?
    27        A.  Not necessarily.  It is just the job centres would
    28        sometimes perform better one day than another day.
    29
    30   Q.   So, when you had 50 people interviewed how many of them
    31        would you be taking on?
    32        A.  It would depend on various things.  Unfortunately, the
    33        job centres, on the one hand, did not actually vet people
    34        coming to you.  You might not have people with work
    35        permits, national insurance numbers.  They might be --
    36        going back into those days, if I recall, it is like if you
    37        were claiming benefits it was part and parcel, I think, you
    38        had to attend interviews to actually receive your benefits
    39        and if they checked up and you did not attend them ....
    40
    41   Q.   So you got a lot of people applying who were not really
    42        interested in the job, then?
    43        A.  Not necessarily, no.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You mean you did get people who you thought
    46        were just going through the motions so they could collect
    47        their benefits?
    48        A.  Yes.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:   There would probably be interviews for some crew 
    51        most weeks of the year, that would be fair to say? 
    52        A.  Honestly, it would depend.  It would depend on the 
    53        needs at the time.
    54
    55   Q.   Right.  But that would be a fair picture, obviously not
    56        precisely, but as a kind of general picture?
    57        A.  Not every week of the year, no.
    58
    59   Q.   Most weeks of the year?
    60        A.  Quite possibly not in January or February, or even

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