Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 38


     
     1        transcript of CaseView -- whether it might not be recorded
     2        that the movement which Dr. Pattison demonstrated for
     3        herding chickens was a forward movement of the forearms
     4        with the hands open in front of the body?
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You had your hands open, palms upright and
     7        were bending your arms at the elbows.  Thank you.
     8
     9   MS. STEEL:  Would the catchers be bending over as they are doing
    10        that?
    11        A.  No, they are normally standing up.
    12
    13   Q.   They stand upright?
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   The outbreak of Gumboro disease, before it was brought
    17        under control, is it correct that of the dead birds found
    18        in the sheds some would be quite manky and have maggots in
    19        them?
    20        A.  No, the instruction is that birds have to be picked up,
    21        any dead birds have to be picked up, several times in a
    22        day.  So, there would not be time for maggots to be
    23        produced in a carcass.
    24
    25   Q.   How long would it take for maggots to be produced in a
    26        carcass then?
    27        A.  A carcass would have to be in the shed three or four
    28        days before there would be maggots on it.
    29
    30   Q.   Is it not right that whilst farmers are supposed to walk
    31        the sheds every day some do and some do?
    32        A.  I would say they all walk them every day.  Some walk
    33        them much more frequently, several times a day, others less
    34        often.  But I cannot imagine that it would be in a farmer's
    35        interest not to walk them at least once a day.
    36
    37   Q.   So that is the reason why you presume that they do do them
    38        at least once a day?
    39        A.  Well, they do, as far as I know.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When you said 30, 40 or 50 dead birds found?
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   Q.   How does that come about then?
    45        A.  That would be one day's mortality for that shed.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:   What are the farmers supposed to do with the dead
    48        birds?
    49        A.  The birds have to be disposed of.  They are either
    50        incinerated or buried. 
    51 
    52   Q.   So some of them will just be dumped in a big pit? 
    53        A.  If they are being buried they are put in a disposal pit
    54        which is dug first.
    55
    56   Q.   Each day do they dig a new pit?
    57        A.  No.  They would have a burial pit which would last for
    58        a certain time, and the birds -- the day's mortality is
    59        simply put in there.
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