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1 selectively quoted from as it normally is.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, if you are putting propositions from the
4 document, when you have finished, if Mr. Rampton has not
5 got a copy, hand them either to him or Mrs. Brinley-Codd
6 and then they have them in their possession.
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8 MR. MORRIS: Yes. You can have them at the end of the day.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When I said put a proposition -- in case you
11 come to this in the future -- you do not have to say where
12 it has come from necessarily, all you can say is: "Would
13 you agree that" and then you can read from the quotes as if
14 it is your own words you are putting to the witness to ask
15 him if he would agree with it.
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17 MR. MORRIS: I think that in my limited experience in legal
18 cases, being limited to this kind of case, limited to this,
19 I would see that putting a reference to a witness has a
20 dramatically greater effect than just asking him if they
21 agree with some words in the abstract.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If may do, but if they are going to agree
24 with it, it cannot possibly have a greater effect because
25 you have the witness's agreement, you have the witness's
26 evidence, that that is right which is all you can ever get
27 from a witness anyway.
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29 MR. MORRIS: Yes, but they are more likely to agree that is
30 right when it is something which is in black and white,
31 surprisingly enough. Can we move on to Finland -- I am
32 sorry, I do not know where I am now.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you at the bottom of page 13 still on
35 biodiversity?
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37 MR. MORRIS: Yes. (To the witness): I just want to hand you a
38 document from the Committee for the Monitoring of
39 Threatened Animals and Plants in Finland commissioned by
40 the Ministry of Environment, is that OK? It is a single
41 sheet so it can all be seen by all parties. I should have
42 handed that this morning.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, very well.
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46 MR. MORRIS: It is one of the ones I photocopied. Would you
47 read that to yourself, the abstract?
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, Mr. Morris?
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51 MR. MORRIS: Are you aware in Finland about concerns for
52 threatened or endangered species?
53 A. Yes, all of Europe now keeps a very close record on
54 those which are in need of monitoring, those that are
55 vulnerable and those that are endangered.
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57 Q. Would you say this is an accurate summary of the Finland
58 situation, in your experience?
59 A. I would say that the facts as presented there by the
60 Ministry of the Environment which were (and are still, as
