Day 175 - 18 Oct 95 - Page 40


     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I just want to see if there are any further
     3        questions.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, thank you.  Just pause a moment.
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     7   MR. MORRIS:  Just one further question about all the jobs you
     8        may have done.  How many jobs have you done since
     9        McDonald's?
    10        A.  Well, I have probably done three or four serious jobs
    11        but I went travelling for a period, so I did loads of jobs
    12        while I was travelling in Australia mostly.
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    14   Q.   How do you evaluate McDonald's compared to other jobs that
    15        you have done?
    16        A.  Well, I think McDonald's is the worst place I have ever
    17        worked.  It is the hardest place I have ever worked with
    18        the least gratitude; the conditions were intolerable, I
    19        have worked as a hotel porter, I have worked as a waiter
    20        and I have been abused by people working as a waiter but
    21        nothing like having to work in McDonald's.
    22
    23        I mean, it would not -- it is not exaggerating to say that
    24        I thought that there were times when working at McDonald's
    25        was like being in hell, because you had managers screaming
    26        at you, there were massive queues of customers waiting for
    27        food getting impatient, and you felt that pressure as an
    28        individual, and the Manager made sure you felt that
    29        pressure because it was you that was holding everything
    30        back.  Everyone was being kicked to make sure they worked
    31         -- in a metaphorical sense -- to work harder and harder
    32        and harder, and it just ground you into the ground.  I have
    33        worked in jobs since then but I have never had to
    34        experience that and I would not want to.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  We have no further questions.
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, thank you.
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    40   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, there is no chance I will finish tonight,
    41        I am afraid.
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    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will leave it entirely to you as to whether
    44        you start now or in the morning, Mr. Rampton.
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    46   MR. RAMPTON:  I can ask some preliminary questions.  I have a
    47        quest for information to pursue, apart from anything else,
    48        as your Lordship has probably realised.  Some of that, I
    49        have no doubt I can get from Mr. Whittle in the witness box
    50         -- at least I hope I can -- the rest of it, I am afraid, 
    51        I shall have to seek elsewhere. 
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    53        The reason I said that, my Lord, is that, quite clearly,
    54        there has been a good deal of what Mr. Whittle has said in
    55        the witness box -- this is no criticism of him -- which was
    56        not even contained in the pieces of paper that we were
    57        given at lunch-time.  What I am wondering is -- he is
    58        obviously going to have to come back to be cross-examined
    59         -- what is in your Lordship's mind about that, given that
    60        there are some things, obviously, when I have some names

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