Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 68


     
     1        inspection tasks would be for trained employees?  I might
     2        surmise that it is whether they have been properly trained
     3        in certain aspects but, equally, that might be completely
     4        wrong.  Do you know what it means?
     5        A.  No.
     6
     7   Q.   Do you have something to put on that or are you just
     8        enquiring what it covers?
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  If the USA DA is responsible for standards in your
    11        process plants, then you have to take seriously the
    12        information which they compile because they are the experts
    13        on the ground, are they not?
    14        A.  We are better experts than what they are.  Our people
    15        at Tyson are far better trained, far better qualified than
    16        the inspectors.  What it does say here is that something,
    17        there were some corrective actions that were taken.  It
    18        does not mean, by any means, that our employees are not
    19        trained properly.
    20
    21   Q.   It does not say anything about corrective action.  That is
    22        something which may or may not have been taken.  This is a
    23        natural analysis of critical points of an operation by the
    24        statutory authorities, the US DA.  What action they took
    25        after that is open to debate or information or whatever.
    26        But they do not seem there, do they, to be satisfied with
    27        the training standard in 74 per cent of the trained
    28        employees category tested?
    29        A.  You are absolutely wrong.  If they are not satisfied,
    30        they will stop the line.  They will not let the employees
    31        go back to the line.
    32
    33   Q.   But, surely, if they are not satisfied they make a note in
    34        their official daily inspection, or whatever it is, that
    35        something is minor, major or critical; whether they stop
    36        the line is another question?
    37        A.  No, no, no, you are totally wrong again.  What it does
    38        mean is that they ask something, just like somebody ask you
    39        a question:  "Your hair is not parted in the middle" or
    40        whatever.  That is what it means, that they took some
    41        action, it was a corrective action.  It does not mean that
    42        it resulted in improper handling or hygienic conditions of
    43        chickens.  It is totally the opposite.  The inspectors have
    44        the authority to stop the line if they do not feel that the
    45        employees are trained, if they do not feel that the
    46        employees are doing the proper things.
    47
    48   Q.   They have the authority to stop the line because they are
    49        the experts on the conformity, as you put it, to the
    50        standards that the US DA would expect? 
    51        A.  They are experts.  They are not the experts.  They are 
    52        experts; that is what they trained for, yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   So far as equipment disassembly, which is the next one, it
    55        says in this one that out of 64 tests made -----
    56        A.  I am sorry, I have a bad copy.
    57
    58   Q.   It is the second one.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is beneath the "trained employees".

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