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     1        it once, so that is twice in four and a half to five years.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:  I do not think they have been tested that long.
     4
     5   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, 1990. The girl in the laboratory stuff --
     6        I will give you the reference.
     7        A.  1990 that is just recent data.  We have been testing
     8        roughly since 1982 and from 1982 till 1992 we did not find
     9        it.
    10
    11   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, in case Ms. Steel wants to check the
    12        reference it is Day 77, page 42, line 53 to page 43 line 2.
    13
    14   MS. STEEL:  Sorry, they were the ones that they were not sure
    15        whether they worked or not with animals.
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  In the last five years have you any idea, roughly
    18        speaking, of the number of times that your testing was
    19        identified, your or your suppliers' testing has identified
    20        E.coli in any of the meat products?
    21        A.  We have identified it.  It is definitely less than 10
    22        times. If I may add, yes, I have visited Monfort.  I have a
    23        memory now.  I can remember.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When and where was that?
    26        A.  It was last year, in the summer of 1993.
    27
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  Do you remember which plant or plants you visited
    29        on those occasions?
    30        A.  No.  I do remember what we went through in preparation
    31        for the meeting that we had with someone that brought up
    32        all of the major suppliers.  We travelled quite extensively
    33        for weeks into a lot of our major suppliers, but I do not
    34        remember which plant it was.  I remember that they played a
    35        key role, so I visited the plants.  I would say it was a
    36        one-day visit.
    37
    38   Q.   You told us last time you were here that you travelled
    39        extensively throughout the world.  How much travelling do
    40        you do within the United States?
    41        A.  Probably I would say -- it is hard to say the number --
    42        I would say 10 per cent.  I have been spending because of a
    43        different project, out of this year my travel is probably
    44        half, 50 per cent.
    45
    46   Q.   If it is not a rude question, how much time do you actually
    47        get to spend at home?
    48        A.  About 40 per cent.
    49
    50   Q.   So you are on the wing, as it were, 60 per cent of the 
    51        year? 
    52        A.  That is correct. 
    53
    54   Q.   I think, Dr. Gomez Gonzalez, you have got volume IX still?
    55        I hope you have.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you want him to hold on to yellow IX?
    58
    59   MR. RAMPTON:  No.  I think my reference is wrong.  It is 11.
    60        A.  Yes.

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