Day 196 - 06 Dec 95 - Page 31
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you can make the time. Whether it
3 means talking to Mr. Coton for some time this evening or
4 getting here, say, at half past 9 tomorrow and making some
5 arrangement for your boy, if that has to be made, for a
6 fellow parent to take him to school or not. In so far as
7 there is any need to take instructions, I think you ought
8 to be able to do it by 10.30 one way or the other, if you
9 make your own arrangements. So we will carry on at 10.30
10 if, indeed, there is any further you want to ask Mr. Coton
11 then.
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13 MR. MORRIS: There is quite a lot in the documents.
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15 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, can I ask that the communication between
16 defendant and Mr. Coton, your Lordship's leave for that, is
17 confined to what arises out of those documents and does not
18 hack back over what he has said today.
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20 MS. STEEL: We have no reason why we would want to hack back
21 over them.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. All that is being said, which is clearly
24 not only right but sensible, is do not be tempted with
25 Mr. Coton to say: "You said this in your evidence" and
26 then ask him about that, with a view to seeing if there is
27 anything more you can usefully ask him about it tomorrow.
28 Restrict yourself to any further matters on the
29 documentation. I mean, quite frankly, the issues in the
30 area Mr. Coton has given evidence about are really quite
31 stark and clear and how much additional detail helps, I do
32 not know. Someone is not telling the truth and I have to
33 decide who.
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35 MS. STEEL: I just want to bring something else up. You asked
36 about whether we could find a witness for Friday. The only
37 witness that we are able to get to come to court on Friday
38 is Vicky Watkins. As yet there has not been a discussion
39 about whether she was going to be able to come, but I do
40 not know what you want to do about that. She is able to
41 come on Friday, if you want to hear her evidence on Friday.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you remind me what her evidence covers?
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45 MS. STEEL: She took a video of chickens at Sun Valley Poultry.
46 It is fairly short, but the Plaintiffs insisted on her
47 coming to court for some reason -- I do not know why. So
48 she can come on Friday, if you want to hear her evidence
49 then.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you have anything to say about that,
52 Mr. Rampton?
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54 MR. RAMPTON: I am not anxious to waste the court's time.
55 I would be willing for her to come on Friday, subject only
56 to this, that I have not yet been able to lay hands on a
57 veterinary inspector who Vicky Watkins activated as a
58 consequence of her raid.
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60 MS. STEEL: Her what?
