Day 146 - 03 Jul 95 - Page 21
1 it is completely new.
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3 Then, my Lord, paragraph 40, and this is an important
4 question (if any of this is important), it has an "N"
5 question on it because of the words "over capacity".
6 I think those are the words in the written statement. But,
7 in fact, this was a very specific allegation about the
8 difficulties created from the point of view of proper
9 inspection and food safety by what she would, no doubt, say
10 was an excessive line speed.
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12 My Lord, that should have been included in the statement
13 because, as one sees, it can be dealt with specifically by
14 reference to documentary records of the line speeds in a
15 given week. I think Ms. Steel wants to say something.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Try to stay calm. It does not help the
18 argument if people are answering back as it goes along.
19 You will have plenty of time to respond to this if you want
20 to object to Mr. Bone being called.
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22 MS. STEEL: Can I just say actually that I was talking to
23 Mr. Morris. I think I was talking much quieter than
24 Mr. Rampton frequently talks to Mrs. Brinley-Codd.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I asked Mr. Rampton to keep his voice down
27 the other day. Apart from anything else, if someone apart
28 from the person who is on his feet, if I can hear them
29 speaking it distracts me a little. I know when one is in a
30 courtroom like this, and there are not members of the
31 public, you can often be heard when you do not intend to
32 be, but the quieter everyone is the better.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, line speed and its supposed consequences
35 go all the way through 41, 42, 43 and 44, explaining how it
36 is that, in fact, it could not possibly work if the line
37 speed was too fast, for the reason not least that the
38 inspectors would never allow it. They would not have time
39 at the sort of speeds which Ms. Hovi alleged in her
40 evidence-in-chief. Again, all that could have been dealt
41 with if we had had notice of the line speed allegation.
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43 My Lord, from there on there is not anything directly
44 attributable to Ms. Hovi's evidence. Indirectly, yes,
45 because paragraph 45 deals with what your Lordship called a
46 conflict between the witness and the documents concerning
47 the temperatures taken at the exit of the chiller No. 1 and
48 the entry to the boning room; that is to say, the
49 temperatures of the meat and explaining how the process
50 works.
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52 I mention this now because your Lordship did raise it at
53 the time. Your Lordship was concerned, because of that
54 conflict, to see the originals of those documents.
55 Mrs. Brinley-Codd, I think, does have the originals and
56 they will be produced at the proper time, not just now. My
57 Lord, that really, without bothering to go to the
58 transcripts -- if the Defendants want to do so, by all
59 means let them do so -- all I would say is, to save time,
60 that those references to the transcripts, having been done
