Day 180 - 31 Oct 95 - Page 58
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2 MS. STEEL: Yes. He said that Bath were paying extra rates
3 because of difficulties in hiring people and he went on to
4 say -----
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just stop there because we will sort that all
7 out in a moment. You put a certain hypothesis for your
8 question and I have got Mr. Pearson's answer.
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10 MS. STEEL: I am just saying he says he thinks the Company
11 stands at £3.05.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Very well. I will have to look at it all.
14 What was the page where it started?
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16 MR. RAMPTON: I am sorry, my Lord, it is ---
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18 MS. STEEL: I do not think we have the transcript yet.
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20 MR. RAMPTON: -- page 35.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will have a note probably anyway.
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24 MS. STEEL: It is further on where he says about the Company
25 standards.
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27 THE WITNESS: I am reminded, my Lord, that in the Catering
28 Review Group tables we had a £3 provincial rate at
29 McDonald's, 1993.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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33 MS. STEEL: So, in your opinion, does this or does this not
34 indicate a need for Wages Council protection?
35 A. The need for is established by -----
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I really do not want to embark on that,
38 because I am not going to tell the Government what they
39 ought to do about their minimum wages or things of that
40 kind. In so far as it helps me to see whether McDonald's
41 pay is low by any test, then I think I should hear the
42 evidence, but -----
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44 MS. STEEL: I just thought there was a bit in the leaflet about
45 McDonald's taking advantage of the absence of a minimum
46 wage. That was all. So, it is kind of relevant to that.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have had your evidence on that.
49 Mr. Pearson has given his view.
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51 MR. MORRIS: What defines a full-time worker? What is the
52 normal position?
53 A. Well, between 16 and 16 hours over in the Statute
54 but .....
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56 Q. Over 16 hours?
57 A. Yes.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: For what purpose?
60 A. I am sorry?
