Day 254 - 22 May 96 - Page 15


     
     1        try to find out if there is consistency and by which means
     2        the protection, if it is exists, is manifest.
     3
     4   Q.   But this study, which is a comprehensive look at, I think
     5        you have said, the various studies that have been done has
     6        not pointed to anything saying the opposite about olive
     7        oil?
     8        A.  I think what it has said is that the position is an
     9        open one, that we do not know, that there is some evidence
    10        to suggest that olive oil might be protected but not
    11        necessarily so.
    12
    13   Q.   But there is no evidence pointing the other way?
    14        A.  No.
    15
    16   Q.   Which, bearing in mind that this person has reviewed all
    17        the scientific literature, I think that is what you said
    18        earlier?
    19        A.  Yes, but, with respect, what he is actually saying is
    20        that there may be but that there is no conclusive proof
    21        that is the situation.
    22
    23   Q.   Going back to where we were before then.  With the
    24        exception of olive oil, would you agree that certainly over
    25        30, 35 per cent of energy from fat in your diet is
    26        considered to be excessive by virtually everybody's
    27        standard?
    28        A.  No, I do not think that one can say that.  I do not
    29        think there is a body of evidence which would support that
    30        argument.
    31
    32   Q.   They all make those recommendations.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I just ask:  Is this directed at cancer
    35        or generally, because one of the points ----
    36
    37   MS. STEEL:  No.  It is directed at a previous answer of the
    38        witness which was ----
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  One of the points which Dr. Arnott made
    41        before is:  I am not adverting strictly to 30 per cent
    42        rather than any other figure, but whatever you can say
    43        about fat and cancer, the position was stronger in relation
    44        to other degenerative diseases and, therefore, one could
    45        give certain good advice in relation to fat and diet.
    46
    47        What I would like you to do when you are talking about it,
    48        since he is the cancer expert and has come as such, it
    49        would help me when you put a question about 30 per cent fat
    50        and so on, whether you are directing it at Doctor Arnott 
    51        with regard to cancer as just good physician's advice? 
    52 
    53   MS. STEEL: I am directing it at the point where I asked about
    54        the recommendations that he had made to his patients and
    55        I said that they are the patients who already have cancer
    56        and he said: "No. I have to say I am obviously faced with
    57        patients who have cancer, but one would recommend this to
    58        anybody as being sensible advice".
    59
    60        Unfortunately, my question has not come out but his answer

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