Day 140 - 22 Jun 95 - Page 63
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
3 A. We have been arguing and talking a lot about that
4 survey, the city suburban starting wage rates; and I have
5 been saying, my Lord, that these are extracts from the
6 TPF & C. What I am saying is that they did a complete
7 report with all the detailed that we have been arguing
8 over. This is their report, part of their report. These
9 are not McDonald's words; these are their reports.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is how, I think, Mr. Rampton understood
12 you. But, for instance, if we see how it starts -- I have
13 lost the reference now. Can someone remind me what it is?
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15 MR. MORRIS: 94.
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17 THE WITNESS: Yes, 94.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It starts off: "Recently McDonald's
20 commissioned Towers Perrin Foster & Crosby (TPF & C), an
21 international organisation of management consultants
22 specialising in compensation related to Human Resource
23 Consulting Services", and so it goes on.
24 A. Yes, my Lord.
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26 Q. I had assumed that that was written by some McDonald's, and
27 that what -----
28 A. My Lord -----
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30 Q. Let me just finish, so that you understand what I thought
31 you were saying, and you can correct me. But when, for
32 instance, we got to McDonald's survey methodology, what was
33 set out there was taken word by word, as it were, from a
34 part of the full report. Am I misunderstanding your
35 evidence?
36 A. I am not being very clear, my Lord.
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38 Q. Start again.
39 A. OK. Everything written -- the best way for me to
40 describe it is, everything on 1472 through 1478 was written
41 by TPF & C and Professor Perrin. This came out of an
42 overall report that they did. They had detailed backup and
43 they had their executive summary to lead off the entire
44 thing that they gave us. What we took and distributed was
45 this executive summary, without all detailed backup. My
46 point -- and I hope I am making it clear -- is that this is
47 all of theirs; this is not McDonald's writing. This is TPF
48 & C.
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50 MS. STEEL: But this -----
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just let him finish first.
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54 THE WITNESS: This is TPF & C, and this is the professor, not
55 McDonald's writing.
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57 MS. STEEL: But these pages were actually compiled or put
58 together by McDonald's?
59 A. No. That is my point. That is where I think the
60 confusion is. We took it out of the whole report, but
