Day 265 - 19 Jun 96 - Page 76
1 MS. STEEL: The problem is I did not mark these as I read them
2 and I read them in an extreme hurry.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you sure of the date that it was the 20th
5 September?
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7 MS. STEEL: No, I am not. I thought it was, but -----
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9 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is page 6 in the top right-hand
10 corner. It is 20th September. It is the last report. I
11 have it here. It is out of a paragraph. It was confirmed
12 that "there is to be a picket outside the Bank of England
13 between noon and 2 pm on the 25th September, 1990. Helen
14 is to print 4,000 leaflets", is what that says.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where do we go from there, because if you are
17 prepared to make an admission in respect of that, then
18 there is no need for Mr. Bishop to come back.
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20 MR. RAMPTON: I would have to think about that because I cannot
21 remember the context of this other assertion -- something
22 about the printing of the leaflets of the London Greenpeace
23 Fayre. My Lord, in any event, even if I were not prepared
24 to make an admission about that, and I do not want to make
25 it on the spot, does your Lordship really need to hear Mr.
26 Bishop?
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Quite frankly, I would have thought not
29 because he cannot help me as to what is in someone else's
30 note. You are merely putting to him a comment to ask his
31 judgment on it when you should really be putting it to me,
32 do you see?
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34 MS. STEEL: Can we refer to these notes if there is not a
35 witness here?
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, of course you can. You can say they
38 have been discovered as reports made by Kings on the basis
39 of number 5, Miss Tiller Davidson's notes, and 6, Miss
40 Hooker's notes, and therefore you can say I can infer from
41 that that they noted down the reference which you have
42 taken me to.
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44 MS. STEEL: Right, because we do not want to accept everything
45 in their notes.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You can say if you put that against the fact
48 that the witness was prepared to accept the possibility
49 that they were IMF leaflets and not antiMcDonald's ones,
50 albeit that he went on to say, "But since I noted it as I
51 did I think it was McDonald's", I should not attach any
52 weight to that, even on balance of probability.
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54 That is my feeling at the moment. Do you challenge that,
55 Mr. Rampton?
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57 MR. RAMPTON: No. I think, if I may respectfully say so, it is
58 the right way of approaching it. It is all comment.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is all reasoning from the fact of this
