Day 292 - 01 Nov 96 - Page 46


     
     1        actually been collected for recycling?
     2
     3   MR. MORRIS:   It might have been the Nottingham thing, I do not
     4        remember, but it can be checked.
     5
     6        Page 12, we started going into the details of the content
     7        of the various....   Or do we?  Hang on.  It does there,
     8        anyway.  A third of all fry boxes.  Now, fry boxes - I am
     9        trying to understand my note - involve 60 percent -- sorry,
    10        yes.  I believe what that refers to - it can be checked -
    11        is that a third of their fry boxes are recycled and fry
    12        boxes are involved in 60 percent of their cardboard
    13        packaging.  So it is a third of 60 percent that is actually
    14        recycled, or it was in that particular year.  I have not
    15        really put all the years down.
    16
    17        It cross-references to page 49, line 40, where he says,
    18        yes, i.e., he agreed with something then.  This is not the
    19        best way to ----
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It does not matter.  You are giving me the
    22        references, which I can read again myself.
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:   Right.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   If I need to.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:   Page 13, Persico does not supply Japan, Canada and
    29        Australia.  And this is where we were trying to work out
    30        how much packaging is not supplied by Persico, which is
    31        fairly substantial amounts.  The deceptive point is - I
    32        want to check it out - line 19, page 90, line 26, page 60.
    33        Oh, yes, he says in his statement:  The only packaging used
    34        by McDonald's in which a blowing agent is used or required
    35        is the foam packaging for our sandwiches and some breakfast
    36        items and foam hot cups.
    37
    38        And the way he puts it, this is part of the whole deceptive
    39        approach of McDonald's, the only packaging used by
    40        McDonald's, you know, as if there is an enormous range
    41        where it does not apply.  And then we went through a very
    42        substantial amount of packaging that that foam packaging
    43        would apply to.
    44
    45        So it was just a point, it was not an enormous point there,
    46        but McDonald's tend to underplay, at the minimum, what they
    47        consider to be the damaging nature of their packaging or
    48        even the content of their packaging.
    49
    50        Then it says here see -- no problem next to food.  I found
    51        that reference later on.  He said there is no law, never
    52        has been a law that he knew of.  That was on day 62.  The
    53        last point on day 62 in these notes, 67, line 59, no law
    54        versus recycled paper or polystyrene touching food except
    55        in Scandinavia.  This was another deceptive point from
    56        McDonald's, which we have heard repeatedly, "Oh no, we
    57        cannot use recycled materials next to food".
    58
    59        But not only has there not been any scrap of evidence to
    60        prove that, but in fact their own expert witness, their own

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