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     1        A.  Yes, grade and dead weight.
     2
     3   Q.   Could you get the Defendants' Supplementary List?  It will
     4        be one of the blue binders on the top row.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is the Supplementary List of documents.
     7        Not just List of Documents, but Supplementary List.  What
     8        is the number?
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:  It is No. 12.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is in No. 1 if it is document 12.
    13
    14   MS. STEEL:   I do not know how they are named, to be honest.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are we going on to hormones?
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:  Yes.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us take our five-minute break.
    21
    22                       (Short Adjournment)
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have you the document?
    25        A.  I think so, sir.
    26
    27   Q.   If you turn to tab 12, please, Mr. Walker?
    28        A.  A McDonald's document -- is that correct?
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it is a fax.
    31
    32   MS. STEEL:  Yes, it is a fax there dated 14th July.
    33        A.  Yes.
    34
    35   Q.   In actual fact, if you could turn to the second one,
    36        please?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is Mr. Ehrlichmann, is that The Guardian's
    40        consumer correspondent or another Mr. Ehrlichmann?
    41
    42   MS. STEEL:  It is that one, yes.  (To the witness):  The second
    43        paragraph, the antibiotics, virginiamycin, abercarcin(?);
    44        are they kind of in fairly standard usage?
    45        A.  I could not give you an opinion on that.  I mean, they
    46        are not antibiotics which I would have used, no.
    47
    48   Q.   So are there other ones then that are in standard usage?
    49        A.  To treat animals?
    50 
    51   Q.   Yes. 
    52        A.  Yes, an animal that has pneumonia would be treated with 
    53        penicillin, chloromycetin and ormicine(?).
    54
    55   Q.   What about when they are young?
    56        A.  Calves?
    57
    58   Q.   Yes.  You said in your statement that they do not routinely
    59        inject antibiotics, but what about mixing them into the
    60        food?

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