Day 097 - 06 Mar 95 - Page 62
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2 MR. RAMPTON: Under "Guidelines for the safe loading and
3 unloading movement of livestock" what is a "coaxer"?
4 A. A stick or alternative I would imagine.
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6 Q. It is not a special term of art for a goad, although it
7 might be a goad?
8 A. It could be a goad I suppose, but, no, it is not.
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10 Q. Turning on to tab 9 which is after you and your documents,
11 if I can put it like that, tab 9 of this bundle. You will
12 find there a statement by Mr. David Walker of McKeys.
13 Behind his statement there are a whole of lot of documents
14 which I am afraid probably do not have numbers on them, but
15 one of them should be a folding plan, in your case folded.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Shall we have the break there?
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19 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, I am just going to go swiftly through the
20 operation.
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22 (Short Adjournment).
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24 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Chambers this plan you see before you is not a
25 map or plan of your plant; it is, I am afraid to say, one
26 of your competitors, Jarrets of somewhere in the West
27 Country. Can you just cast your eye over it, follow its
28 layout, and then I will ask you a question. Tell me when
29 you have absorbed the generality of it. It starts, as you
30 see, with the stun pen and finishes at the chill rooms.
31 Roughly speaking, how similar or dissimilar is this in its
32 essential characteristics with what one would find at your
33 plant?
34 A. Obviously the operations are the same. Ours is
35 slightly different in that we have two of most of the
36 stations which you see on there.
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38 Q. Is that just a function of size, do you think?
39 A. Yes. It moves two carcasses along at a time.
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41 Q. Are there, effectively, two lines then?
42 A. No, there is one line, but rather than moving one
43 carcass it will move two carcass worth each time. Apart
44 from that, it is pretty much the same.
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46 Q. It is?
47 A. Our hide and gut room, etc., are below the slaughter
48 hall. It is fed by chutes.
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50 Q. I did not catch that? Below the slaughterhouse?
51 A. Yes, they fall down chutes.
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53 Q. There appears to be a chute, in this drawing there appears
54 to be a chute to the gut table, but we cannot tell from
55 looking at this maybe what happens after that. There is
56 something which says "hatch" on the lower right-hand side?
57 A. Rather than having a hatch we would have a hole
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60 Q. So those facilities at your plant are beneath ground?
