Day 105 - 16 Mar 95 - Page 51


     
     1        A.  I could not answer that, I am afraid, the journey from
     2        Bristol to Milton Keynes.
     3
     4   Q.   A couple of hours, three or four hours?
     5        A.  Anybody could make an estimate of that.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At what stage precisely are these pack
     8        temperatures written in?
     9        A.  The bins will tend to be loaded into one vehicle and
    10        the temperatures are taken -----
    11
    12   Q.   This is loading into the vehicle?
    13        A.  Loading into the vehicle and the temperature is taken
    14        at that stage.
    15
    16   MR. MORRIS:  This form is filled out at Jarretts?
    17        A.  Yes, this is their control form at dispatch.
    18
    19   Q.   We have nearly finished the forms.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Finish the form.  So far as you are aware,
    22        then we will have the five-minute break and you can
    23        contemplate where to go next.  Do you want the break now?
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, it might be appropriate.
    26
    27                       (Short Adjournment)
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  Do you know the people at Bristol Laboratories,
    30        I think you said you did?
    31        A.  Yes, I know of Dr. Walker -- Dr. Roberts, I beg your
    32        pardon.
    33
    34   Q.   You know the people at McKey's, you know some people at
    35        McKey's?
    36        A.  Yes, I know the management team and other individuals
    37        who I pass the time of the day with, yes.
    38
    39   Q.   Have you ever done any actual business with McKey's?
    40        I mean, have you ever been hired or given them advice?
    41        A.  No.
    42
    43   Q.   Do you know the Jarretts people?  How long have you known
    44        them for?
    45        A.  I have personally known Jarretts since they initially
    46        called me in August 1993, if memory serves.
    47
    48   Q.   Do you know any people who actually work for McDonald's?
    49        A.  No.  I know one senior member of management who I have
    50        recently met, but otherwise, no. 
    51 
    52   Q.   You have not actually done any work for McDonald's? 
    53        A.  No, I have not.
    54
    55   Q.   Are most of your consultancies that you have mainly to do
    56        with abattoir companies?
    57        A.  Abattoirs, cutting plants and bacon factories, and the
    58        procedures that stem from running a bacon factory so, yes,
    59        very much the wholesale meat industry.
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