Day 082 - 01 Feb 95 - Page 22
1 You have to think where you might want me to go and what
2 you might want me to look at.
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4 MS. STEEL: Is there any kind of procedure we have to follow?
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. You have to raise it in court with me
7 and say: "We would like you to have a look at this".
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9 MS. STEEL: You would not do it on that day?
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. If I thought, having heard anything
12 Mr. Rampton wanted to say, that it would be useful to see
13 it, then we would start making arrangements, thinking about
14 the arrangements to do it.
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16 MS. STEEL: Is there any provision for unannounced views?
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That would all have to be part of -- you
19 raise that. As you remember, my inclination, if I was
20 going to go into a McDonald's, was to go in unannounced and
21 unidentified. A reservation Mr. Rampton had about that is
22 the parties might not know what I had observed and what
23 I was, therefore, taking into account which would mean they
24 had not had an opportunity to call any evidence in relation
25 to that or address me on that. It would have to be
26 canvassed in open court and a decision made as to whether
27 I should go and, if so, in what circumstances. All I will
28 say at the moment is I have absolutely no intention of
29 going into a McDonald's until the matter has been
30 canvassed, if at all.
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32 MR. MORRIS: We will see if we want to bring it up or not. We
33 are not sure.
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35 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do not know whether your Lordship might
36 fancy a trip to Costa Rica or Brazil!
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, the Vice Chancellor of the Chancery
39 Division once went to a Pacific island for a view!
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41 MR. MORRIS: Item 11, scheduling matters were put down as a
42 matter of routine really. They are, obviously, continually
43 being discussed. Everything seems to be relaxed on that at
44 the moment.
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46 MR. RAMPTON: I do not feel terribly relaxed about it. I will
47 have some words to say about it on Monday. I would like,
48 if I may, now to give advance notice so the Defendants can
49 start thinking what they are going to do about, if
50 anything, Ms. Link who is the supposed papermaking expert;
51 the names of the employment witnesses that the Defendants
52 intend to call as witnesses in this court, and then, my
53 Lord, the order and the names of their witnesses on food
54 poisoning and rearing and slaughter for the sake of future
55 scheduling after that time and, if possible, an estimate of
56 how long they are going to take.
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58 MS. STEEL: Mr. Rampton has the names of the employment
59 witnesses we intend to call. The food poisoning and
60 rearing slaughter, obviously, when we know at what stage
