Day 058 - 30 Nov 94 - Page 63
1 Q. We see that, I hope I have it right, the United States has,
2 for example, 195,256,000 hectares of productive forest?
3 A. Correct.
4
5 Q. The Canadians have nearly 215 million hectares, right?
6 A. That is right.
7
8 Q. The total for Europe, I think, is something like 69, nearly
9 70 million hectares. My question is really this: What did
10 you mean when you described those areas as "productive
11 forest"? How do you distinguish "productive" from
12 "non-productive" or "unproductive" forest.
13 A. Separating the non-productive, if you look at the
14 United States of the total of 266 million hectares, 26.5
15 per cent of it is non-productive and I go on to Canada 359
16 million of total forest.
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18 Q. I noticed that. I wondered what the distinction actually
19 was?
20 A. I was going on to explain why. That 40 per cent of it
21 is non-productive. You see the great discrepancy between
22 the two. The reason for that is that a high proportion of
23 the Canadian forest is in remote areas and wilderness. In
24 the case of the American forest over 53 million hectares of
25 156 national forests have been wholly set aside as forest
26 reserves. The forest reserves are of all kinds:
27 wilderness, forest, biological reserves and park lands and
28 the like. It is a very, very large area. They have been
29 dedicating national forests in the United States for 115
30 years.
31
32 Q. Just in supplement of that, should we make a distinction
33 between, for example, I take it we are talking about the
34 far north of Canada when you talk about wilderness, distant
35 areas?
36 A. Yes.
37
38 Q. Should we make a distinction between those sorts of areas
39 and what may be reserved areas within the United States in
40 the way in which the forests are affected by mankind?
41 A. Yes, the distinction of remoteness is that man's
42 presence is less common. The distinction of any kind of
43 reservation is that man's presence is part of the whole
44 process of its preservation.
45
46 Q. Can I just then proceed down that road a little bit
47 further? This I think is common knowledge, that the
48 Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, Montana, United
49 States is perhaps one of the earliest of the national
50 parks, is that right?
51 A. Correct.
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53 Q. I do not know what size it is, but it consists to a large
54 extent or to some extent at least of forest?
55 A. That is right.
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57 Q. To a large extent lodge pole pines?
58 A. Correct.
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60 Q. Is that left, as though it might be in Northern Canada,
