Day 089 - 15 Feb 95 - Page 79


     
     1        prepared to start your cross-examination in the morning.
     2        You have probably got quite enough to be getting on with on
     3        the animal welfare side before we reach hygiene, that is,
     4        food poisoning as we have called it so far.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Dr. Pattison did say that the monthly summaries
     7        included the inspections of the stunning so that would
     8        include that side of it as well.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL (To the witness):  So would those be documents
    11        for McDonald's?
    12        A.  No.  The documents, no, those sort of documents relate
    13        to the processing factory.  They are daily checks that are
    14        carried out there, and we certainly do not keep those for
    15        any length of time.
    16
    17   Q.   What sort of length of time?
    18        A.  Probably no more than two or three weeks, I should
    19        think, because there are thousands of pieces of paper
    20        relating to those sort of checks.  The ones that we do keep
    21        and summarise are the finished product testing results,
    22        microbiological checks.
    23
    24   Q.   That is nothing to do with stunning; that is the
    25        microbiology?
    26        A.  That is nothing to do with stunning, and we would not
    27        have the historical records of things like stunning.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  I might have misunderstood then, I
    30        think.  It is the 20 pages, some of those pages would
    31        include what you called inspections and stun.
    32        A.  They would include all our quality assurance checks.
    33        What I am saying is that those are not kept, some of them
    34        are not kept for any length of time.
    35
    36   Q.   But, say, for example, that Monday's documents, 20 pages
    37        were available, then some of these would include the
    38        stunning procedure checks and things like that as well as
    39        the finished product?
    40        A.  They might do.
    41
    42   Q.   That is what you said.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have a in mind a particular -- I do
    45        not want you to embark on your cross-examination now ---
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  No, no, that is just what he said before.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- do you have a particular document which
    50        would record stunning times in mind?  I mean, if you wanted 
    51        to check how effective stunning had been over the last 
    52        fortnight, is there a file you could go to and look and you 
    53        would find timings there?
    54        A.  It might be possible to do that.  The HACCP system
    55        which we have already disclosed that we have for doing all
    56        the quality assurance checks in the slaughter plant, the
    57        checks on the stunner are quite clearly laid out in that
    58        HACCP system and that is just simply used as our daily
    59        check list.
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