Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 40
1 are not big enough to even be converted really into board
2 material products like chip board and medium density fibre
3 board. Generally speaking (and this applies in different
4 forests in different ways) the sawmill product, if there is
5 an integrated industry, it is likely that the sawmill
6 product waste will go to board materials and the thinning
7 waste, in other words, the thinnings of the forest will go
8 to pulp. But it varies very, very much and it is very
9 difficult to generalise.
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11 Q. I am sure it will get more confusing as we go along as
12 well.
13 A. Unfortunately, yes.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is clearly not just a question of how many
16 square miles or whatever you need actually to chop down to
17 produce so much packaging, but how it is replaced or
18 replaces itself; there are all sorts of factors ---
19 A. Yes, my Lord.
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21 Q. -- at the end of the day?
22 A. I think the answer is along the lines of the way you
23 are approaching it, that it is not a given square mileage
24 that produces the product. The important thing is that
25 they are doing a thinning operation which is part of
26 improving the forest, and that is actually improving
27 ecologically as well as in growth terms, and they are doing
28 a final clearing operation with a regeneration programme to
29 follow. So, that square mileage maybe significant in terms
30 of this case, but it is not terribly significant in terms
31 of good forest management.
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33 Q. Presumably, someone has asked you to do some square mileage
34 sums because we have a square mileage figure in the
35 leaflet?
36 A. That is correct, sir.
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38 Q. But were it not for that, that is not the way you would
39 approach the question?
40 A. No, when we reach that point, sir.
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42 Q. Because it is more complicated?
43 A. Yes, it is more complicated. When we do reach that
44 point of actually looking at the area required to provide
45 enough fibre to make packaging, what we will have to try to
46 do is to compare what Mr. Kouchoukos did, approaching it in
47 one way which is mathematical, and what I did which was
48 assuming we were talking about how much area might be
49 clearfelled as opposed to be part of a total Silvi cultural
50 regime. When we do reach that point, I would like to
51 respond, sir.
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53 Q. At some stage I think someone needs to go through it. It
54 may well be that Mr. Morris will do it in cross-examination
55 so that I understand the way you have actually done your
56 calculation and what it means. I have read it more than
57 once but I want to make sure I do understand it.
58 A. I have to say, sir, it does need further explanation.
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60 MR. MORRIS: So if you have a forest which they indicate has a
