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1 different one, although of course it is related to the
2 rainforest question.
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4 Whether or not there is an earlier version in writing of a
5 specification containing the rainforest policy, I do not
6 know. I am informed by Mr. Cesca that there is not; at
7 least, I think that is what his affidavit says.
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9 If one wants to know what the company's rainforest policy
10 was in, let us say, 1983, one only has to look at, for
11 example, Mr. David Walker's statement and the Vesty letter
12 and the World Wildlife Fund documents.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The specifications would be relevant, though,
15 whether or not they said or did not say "no rainforest
16 beef" or whether they said or did not say "from the
17 continental USA only", or words which amounted to the same
18 thing, would they not?
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20 MR. RAMPTON: Can I take the second of those first? After a
21 search, this single document, McDonald's meat
22 specifications from (it is thought) 1967 -- and let not
23 Mr. Morris make Plasticine into concrete, as he is often
24 doing -- we are not certain it is 1967, and he should not
25 think it is.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Concrete out of Plasticine, you mean.
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29 MR. RAMPTON: That is the only document earlier than the ones in
30 the bundles which have so far been found. Whether there
31 are any others, I simply do not know.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I appreciate all that. It is just if there
34 were such documents -- all we are establishing, if there
35 were such documents, then they would be discoverable.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: Yes. But we are back where we were, with respect,
38 an hour ago, because -----
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is really what I started by saying: is
41 this not a possible -- I say no more than possible -- loose
42 end arising from Dr. Gomez Gonzalez' evidence?
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44 MR. RAMPTON: It may be, my Lord. It is no more than that.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think I need make a ruling on that.
47 It has been raised as a possible subject for further
48 discovery.
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50 MR. RAMPTON: Absolutely.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Or, rather, as a subject of possible further
53 discovery.
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55 MR. MORRIS: It is an application for discovery of those
56 documents.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us see what comes of it, because it goes
59 back to Dr. Gomez Gonzalez.
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