Day 274 - 04 Jul 96 - Page 15
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2 MR. RAMPTON: That is right.
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4 MS. STEEL: This is the notes of Mr. Pocklington and it is the
5 paragraph just after the part that has been blanked out?
6 A. Right.
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8 Q. Have you read that?
9 A. Yes.
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11 Q. Do you have any comments to make about -- were you at this
12 meeting?
13 A. Yes.
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15 Q. Do you have any comments to make about that?
16 A. I remember the meeting, I remember the discussion about
17 Paul appearing on the BBC World Service. What
18 Mr. Pocklington says here tallies with what I remember. I
19 am not sure about Alan Claire's. He says "would use the
20 fact that McDonald's stood down as victory literature".
21 That is quite over the top, really. I do not know. Then
22 he says--
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24 Q. Sorry. Can you keep your voice up?
25 A. Sorry.
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27 MR. MORRIS: Can you speak slowly and clearly because we cannot
28 hear the asides?
29 A. I mean, Alan Claire said here "certain members of the
30 group think that McDonald's refusal is lucky because if
31 McDonald's had said yes they may be..." What does that
32 say?
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34 MS. STEEL: "May of", I think?
35 A. "May have" -- what does that say?
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37 Q. "May of with true facts and figures"?
38 A. "... true facts and figures make London Greenpeace look
39 shitty." I don't remember. Everyone in London Greenpeace
40 knew the leaflet to be true, no one would ever have said
41 that. I don't know why Alan Claire would have said that.
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43 Q. You do not remember anything of that kind being said at
44 that meeting?
45 A. I think we were all confident that Paul would go and
46 speak on his behalf and talk about the campaign.
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48 Q. Mr. Morris is going to come back to some--
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50 MR. MORRIS: I will do it as we go through. The 1st March 1990
51 notes of Roy Pocklington, I do not know what number that
52 would be?
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54 MS. STEEL: Page 89.
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56 MR. MORRIS: Thank you. According to what we have heard from
57 the private investigators this seems to be the first time
58 you and me were at the same meeting for a substantial
59 amount of time. Can I just ask you a bit of a background
60 question? Since you joined the group in October 1988, what
