Day 084 - 07 Feb 95 - Page 47


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just on your experience, it may at the end of
     3        the day not matter because a cut finger may not be here or
     4        there, but however that may be, in your experience can you
     5        give any estimate of how many entries in the blue book
     6        there would be for each RIDDOR report?
     7        A.  What I could give you is when I was in restaurant
     8        operations and what my experience was when I checked a blue
     9        book.  I could not relate these to RIDDOR in any way.
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    11   Q.   Just to get some kind of fell for it.
    12        A.  It is probably eight per month minor incidents that
    13        went in the blue book.
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    15   MR. MORRIS:  Eight a month, so something like 100 a year,
    16        something like that?
    17        A.  That is from my experience in the restaurants when
    18        I went and checked through that someone cut a finger,
    19        stubbed a toe, whatever.
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    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Whereas the RIDDOR accidents come out at
    22        something just under one a year per restaurant?
    23        A.  I think that is the figure that can be extrapolated
    24        from that.
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    26   MR. MORRIS:  Presumably, there are more incident report forms
    27        filled in than there are RIDDOR accidents in terms of
    28        employees?
    29        A.  If an incident report form referred to a cut or
    30        something, sorry -- no. Ask the question again, please.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Anything which goes on a company incident
    33        report form, I have assumed, tell me if I am wrong, has
    34        gone in the blue book anyway?
    35        A.  Yes.
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    37   Q.   It is just a question of whether in addition to that it
    38        merits a report to head office.
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    40   MR. MORRIS:  The incident report forms are always sent to head
    41        office, are they?
    42        A.  They are always sent to the customer services
    43        department in head office in East Finchley.
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    45   Q.   If we can say, rule of thumb, we have one RIDDOR accident
    46        per year per store and 100 blue book entries per year per
    47        store.  Would you know roughly what the kind of figure
    48        would be for incident report forms for employee accidents
    49        filled out per year per store?
    50        A.  This is getting uncomfortably hypothetical for me to 
    51        estimate that. 
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    53   Q.   Is it somewhere in between?
    54        A.  It would have to be somewhere in between that.  I think
    55        that Jill Barnes will be in a much better position to give
    56        you more details on that.  She handles these statistics on
    57        a regular basis, similar statistics.
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    59   Q.   I would like to make a formal request for the incident
    60        report forms on employee accident statistics in the

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