Day 104 - 15 Mar 95 - Page 17


     
     1        minus one".  Are these documents, these sheets, part of
     2        your HACCP system?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   We can all read them.  I will not read them out.  We see
     6        pack temperature is 3.7, 3.7, 4.1 and 3.5.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know what it is to the left of the
     9        2.2.94?  Is it just the date of something?
    10        A.  Yes, we have lost a few letters of each one.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, we have on all the pages, I am afraid.
    13        This is what was sent us by Jarrett, my Lord, so I am
    14        afraid I cannot improve on it.
    15        A.  That will be date, certainly.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it has it in the top right-hand column.
    18        Very well.
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:  What is the importance -- I know this is again
    21        blindingly obvious, Mr. Bennett, but we had better have it
    22        from you -- of measuring the temperature of the pack before
    23        it leaves the premises?
    24        A.  Well, it is the specification laid down by the
    25        customer.
    26
    27   Q.   I know, but why does the customer have a temperature
    28        specification at this stage in the process?
    29        A.  It is important to keep within that low temperature
    30        specification in order to ensure the keeping life of the
    31        meat.
    32
    33   Q.   Turn backwards, please, to page 104 -- sorry, the documents
    34        in your bundle are not, I fear, in date order.  Do you have
    35        a document there for 29th March 1994?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   Do you see there are four entries, all McKey?  The
    39        temperatures are the same as they were in the previous
    40        document, that is to say, the container temperatures at the
    41        time of loading.  The pack temperatures differ slightly.
    42        Is it any concern to you, as a food safety specialist, that
    43        one of the batches was 5.2 degrees Centigrade or the pack
    44        was?
    45        A.  In food safety terms, not at all.
    46
    47   Q.   No.  I am interested in food safety.  I am not interested
    48        in the letter of the specification, Mr. Bennett.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  You are generally not interested? 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  For this purpose or, indeed, for most other 
    53        purposes; it seems to me a bureaucratic idiocy.
    54        (To the witness):   Can you turn back to page 103?  There
    55        is a document dated 7th April 1994.
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   Again one sees there are all destined for McKey.  Here the
    59        temperature is slightly higher at the time of loading.  It
    60        is 0 degrees Centigrade, and there are temperatures ranging

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