Day 127 - 23 May 95 - Page 70


     
     1        A.  I believe it is about the same.
     2
     3   Q.   About the same.  We will just have a glance, if we may,
     4        Mrs. Barnes, at some of pages in here.  We at page 806,
     5        Figure 1, that at 31st March 1992 there were 25,500
     6        employees roughly, yes?
     7        A.  Yes.
     8
     9   Q.   The number of restaurants at 1st January that year was 435,
    10        including 38 licensees?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   I cannot speak for the HSE, you see, so I have to ask you
    14        whether, so far as you know, this is accurate?
    15        A.  Yes, well, we gave them the information at the time, so
    16         .....
    17
    18   Q.   You gave them the information?
    19        A.  Yes.
    20
    21   Q.   809, you have to turn it sideways unless you have a
    22        flexible neck -- maybe you do not -- Executive Hierarchy,
    23        I am only interested in the line; Paul Preston, Kevin Hagg,
    24        I think he is pronounced, is he not?
    25        A.  That is right, yes.
    26
    27   Q.   Andrew Taylor, Jill Barnes.  Right?
    28        A.  Yes.
    29
    30   Q.   All four of those people have an asterisk which is said to
    31        mean they were interviewed by the Advisory Unit?
    32        A.  They were, yes.
    33
    34   Q.   Were you interviewed by the Advisory Unit?
    35        A.  I was, yes.
    36
    37   Q.   How many times?
    38        A.  I think formally twice.
    39
    40   Q.   Twice and for how long on those two occasions?
    41        A.  Probably half a day each.
    42
    43   Q.   Half a day each.
    44        A.  But lots of times informally as well as we went along.
    45
    46   Q.   Did you have any reluctance to give these people or this
    47        person, I think it was one person, Andrew Foster,
    48        information about any aspect of the Company's operation in
    49        health and safety?
    50        A.  It was really looked into all very openly with him, and 
    51        I think everybody else was as well. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Just some topics without bothering with the text because we
    54        can all read it ourselves in due course:  Page 821,
    55        "Co-operation", do you see that?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   2.12, it says:  "There were no safety committees or safety
    59        representatives and McDonald's employees were not
    60        collectively members of trade unions".  Ignore the last

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