Day 149 - 06 Jul 95 - Page 10
1 I am prepared to assume, until I am told differently, is
2 the McDonald's Corporation in Germany, which is in German,
3 and a translation of that, which I will just re-read.
4 (Pause) Then I have a long letter which is in German, and
5 which I do not see a translation of, from Franz Wertz.
6 Then I have a supplement to the declaration of
7 27th July, 1993. Whose is that?
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9 MR. MORRIS: Sorry, what are we looking at now?
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The very last page.
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13 MR. MORRIS: Is that George Hanniker?
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is what I am asking you. I cannot see
16 any name on it at the moment. It has a "63" written in the
17 bottom right-hand corner.
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19 MR. MORRIS: I do not know what that is.
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It looks like this. I will not read it.
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23 MR. MORRIS: That is the part of our witness Siegfried Pater.
24 His statement will be in our witness statements, and I am
25 going to refer to that in a minute.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You take your own course.
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29 MR. MORRIS: Yes. As we have the Franz Wertz documents in front
30 of us, it would be a good place to start.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you had better start from scratch,
33 because I remember a fair bit about this, and tell me what
34 you are trying to establish and what your object is again.
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36 MR. MORRIS: We have pleaded in our pleadings -- I do not know
37 if it is necessary to go over it again -- basically, the
38 situation of McDonald's use of soya in -- the cattle that
39 have been fed with soya in Germany and the soya coming from
40 Brazil.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let me get that.
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44 MR. MORRIS: It is page 16.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I remember it, because I was looking at it in
47 your relation to your proposed amendments 1 to 5. Give me
48 the reference?
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50 MR. MORRIS: It is page 16, I believe, of tab 1. I presume this
51 is the up-to-date version. As far as we can see, the
52 question is: do we have a reasonable belief that this is
53 true?
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. You have got past that, because that was
56 in relation to whether a matter was pleaded at all ---
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58 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- and this is pleaded.
