Day 116 - 26 Apr 95 - Page 27


     
     1        A.  Yes, it does.
     2
     3   Q.   It does?
     4        A.  It is.
     5
     6   Q.   Was she stating the company's position in the matter?
     7        A.  Yes.
     8
     9   Q.   When in the past, and we are going back to two sets of
    10        cases in 1982 and one set of cases, Slough, I think it was,
    11        or Luton in 1984, that McDonald's were prosecuted for
    12        employing under aged people, do you remember those cases?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   How was it that the authorities came by the information
    16        enabling to prosecute?
    17        A.  Well, they visit the stores regularly and examine
    18        the  -----
    19
    20   Q.   Do they?
    21        A.  Yes, indeed.  At that time we had the manual clock card
    22        system which you -- a lot of factories, I think -- put a
    23        card into a clock which recorded the time that you placed
    24        it in and then it would record the time when you were
    25        leaving.  So, they used to go into the store, examine the
    26        records and examine the personnel records of the crew
    27        people.
    28
    29   Q.   How often would they do that?
    30        A.  Oh, fairly frequently.
    31
    32   Q.   What people were these?  I called them "authorities"?
    33        A.  Wages inspectors.
    34
    35   Q.   Wages inspectors?
    36        A.  Yes, indeed.  They would also come to our Head Office
    37        and visit the Payroll department and examine our records
    38        there.
    39
    40   Q.   I was going to lead on to that.  When did the computerised
    41        system come into place?
    42        A.  I am really not quite sure but I would have thought
    43        round about 1990.
    44
    45   Q.   Would they come and look at the computerised record as
    46        well, these wages inspectors?
    47        A.  I do not know.  I take it they do but I really do not
    48        know.
    49
    50   Q.   Did that inspection by these wages inspectors go on all the 
    51        time that you were in charge of this part of the company's 
    52        business? 
    53        A.  Yes, indeed.
    54
    55   Q.   Now I want to move, if I may, to something else:  Your
    56        colleague, Lyn Mead, Mr. Nicholson, has given us some
    57        detail in her statement -- she will be giving evidence
    58        later on in this case ---
    59        A.  Yes.
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