Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 58
1 packaging it.
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3 Q. So, for example, the transportation of office stationery or
4 place mats or promotional items, toilet rolls, the
5 packaging that transports those is also addition?
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is what he has just said.
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9 MR. MORRIS: Helen said I ought to clarify it. Including food
10 products that are not ----
11 A. Food products are not handled by Perseco.
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13 Q. The ones that are not handled by Perseco also for
14 transportation. Also all the food products are not handled
15 by Perseco?
16 A. Yes.
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18 Q. So the transportation packaging for food products ----
19 A. For food products is not handled by us.
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21 Q. --- is not included in the figures?
22 A. So not included in these figures, that is correct.
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24 Q. Do you know about the transportation of the food products,
25 what kind of packaging is used; whether you use
26 corrugated?
27 A. I know of it but I would not have details of that.
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29 Q. Do you know if corrugated paperboard, for example, or
30 carton board, whatever, is used?
31 A. I know that for several products carton boxes,
32 corrugated boxes, are used, yes, for instance for fries or
33 for burgers, but I could not tell you any details on it.
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35 Q. Would the volume of the packaging for transporting food
36 products be round about equivalent for the volume of
37 packaging for transporting the packaging, if you know what
38 I am saying, or greater?
39 A. The transport packaging of food would be larger than
40 the transport packaging used for packaging, but I could not
41 tell you more than that.
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43 Q. If we move on to 8, this is the questionnaire which you
44 did, yes?
45 A. Yes.
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47 Q. In 1992. This was on the basis of -- you drew up this
48 chart which was in your recently disclosed, well, yesterday
49 I think it was, whenever, documents. If we just compare it
50 with page 2 of that other pile of documents which we could
51 call maybe your supplementary list or something, you went
52 through them, I think Mr. Rampton took you through them
53 earlier on. Do you have that in front of you?
54 A. Yes.
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56 Q. Apart from napkins sourced in the UK which you said were
57 mostly post-consumer recycled?
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. Yes? When you say "mostly" do you mean 60 per cent, 80 per
