Day 117 - 27 Apr 95 - Page 15


     
     1        cannot create their own rates of pay.  They must take one
     2        of the three rates so he can move them to either Outer
     3        London or Inner London rates.
     4
     5   Q.   I think you have answered it, but I would like you to just
     6        expand on it a little, if I can.  I was going to ask you
     7        what are the reasons why there are geographical gradations
     8        in the rates of pay?
     9        A.  Mostly because of the difficulty of recruiting.  Inner
    10        London has very few people living in the Inner London area
    11        so they have to bring people in from Outer London.
    12
    13   Q.   Who have to travel?
    14        A.  Who have to travel.  So we pay a higher rate in Inner
    15        London.  Again, Outer London, the general cost of living is
    16        higher then most Provincial areas, so again we pay a
    17        slightly higher rate of pay for Outer London.
    18
    19   Q.   If one went to somewhere, I do not know whether this is a
    20        good example or not, like Manchester, which is, as Central
    21        London is, somewhat under-populated in the middle, might
    22        one find there that they were paying something nearer the
    23        London rate?
    24        A.  I think that would be almost certain in Manchester and
    25        in Central Birmingham and the other big cities.
    26
    27   Q.   I would ask you, if you will, to extract that single page
    28         -- I am going to ask you to look at the box in a moment --
    29        from the file because it is necessary to make a comparison
    30        with a later page in the same file which is tab 26.  I will
    31        just identify what it is.  It is a notice which says it
    32        must be posted up.  That is page 626.
    33        A.  Yes.
    34
    35   Q.   It has (which will please Mr. Morris) all the look of
    36        officialdom about it, does it not?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.   Does this come from the Wages Council, this document?
    40        A.  This is the Wages Council White Paper which sets the
    41        minimum rates for that year for the industry.
    42
    43   Q.   We see that on the front page it says it is effective as
    44        from 13th June 1986?
    45        A.  Yes.
    46
    47   Q.   Does that mean that anybody who has not complied must
    48        backdate his rates of pay?
    49        A.  From 13th June, that is the minimum rate of pay.
    50 
    51   Q.   If he gets this in July or something must he backdate or 
    52        not? 
    53        A.  Oh, yes, absolutely.  I have never known it be late.
    54
    55   Q.   You have never known it be late?
    56        A.  No.
    57
    58   Q.   Can you turn to page 639, please?  This is a page which
    59        appears to set out the minimum rates for workers supplied
    60        with meals other than managers in the London area, but it

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