Day 072 - 12 Jan 95 - Page 28
1 A. Yes.
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3 Q. They consider it to be a significant part of the environment/index.html">litter
4 that is lying around in that Square area?
5 A. Well, they consider it to be, yes.
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7 Q. But you do not? Are you saying it is?
8 A. Oh, no, I believe there is a lot of McDonald's environment/index.html">litter,
9 yes, but I am not going to be committed to saying how much
10 of that environment/index.html">litter is ours. I cannot tell you that for a fact.
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12 Q. This letter is at the end of the summer. The staff going
13 out on environment/index.html">litter patrols, you said, would have been in
14 uniform?
15 A. Well, it depends.
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17 Q. If they are going out every half an hour, surely, it is
18 inevitable that at least somebody from the residents
19 association is going to spot them?
20 A. That would be obviously depending on the weather as
21 well. I would not say they would always be out just in
22 uniform. It was not a very good summer, as I can recall.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It might be thought, for instance, one way of
25 seeing is if you see a McDonald's french fries carton when
26 you are setting off on a little walk or trip and when you
27 come back two hours later it is still there, something has
28 gone wrong, you see? That is the sort of thing a local
29 residents might observe.
30 A. Yes, there is also a possibility that, you know, the
31 trash walk can miss things. It is not a perfect system of
32 removing all the rubbish. There is a possibility that a
33 wrapper or a straw wrapper or a cup may be missed,
34 especially if it is underneath a car or in a gutter or down
35 a basement. So, I have not stated that the trash walk is
36 an ideal means of removing all the rubbish. There may well
37 be some rubbish hidden and blown across the streets by the
38 wind.
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40 MS. STEEL: So the people doing the environment/index.html">litter patrols pick up the
41 obviously visible pieces; they would not, you know, go and
42 fish them out of the gutter or pick them out of bushes if
43 they have blown into bushes or what-have-you?
44 A. If they saw them, they would, yes, they would remove
45 them from beside cars or underneath cars, if they could see
46 them. But they do not investigate every single area. It
47 would not be feasible to expect them to spend up to two
48 hours looking around every nook and cranny. The main point
49 is we are trying to control the situation, not alleviate it
50 100 per cent; that would not be possible.
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52 Q. On page 783 there is a letter from someone who
53 indicates that they are McDonald's next door neighbours.
54 "It would seem that the McDonald's environment/index.html">litter patrol does not
55 extend to your next door neighbours. Could you please
56 ensure that empty McDonald's cartons are removed from my
57 doorstep on a regular basis". They are not talking there
58 about basements, are they? They are talking about
59 doorsteps.
60 A. And people sit in these doorsteps, the ones beside the
