Day 010 - 11 Jul 94 - Page 62


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  To make sure I understand, when you say "it
              is an issue", you mean it is something which people ought
     2        to take into account?
              A.  That is correct.
     3
         Q.   Rather than it is something you dispute?
     4        A.  I see what your question is -- well, I have not looked
              at these studies.
     5
         Q.   When you gave that answer you meant it is something which
     6        people are entitled to take into account?
              A.  I do agree with that, yes.
     7
         MR. RAMPTON:  You spoke not long ago about the issue of recycle
     8        versus -- I do not know what. Do you know anything about
              the paper question, the trees question?  You confine
     9        yourself to polystyrene?
              A.  Our central area was, with regard to paper, recycled
    10        paper.
 
    11   Q.   Have you done any research into the question of whether,
              as public opinion sometimes appears to suggest, recycled
    12        paper is, in fact, environmentally more beneficial than
              virgin fibre?  Have you looked at that question?
    13        A.  My name is on a publication I researched and wrote on
              the issue recycling in general.  That paper examines the
    14        issue of paper recycling within it.
 
    15   Q.   Do you agree that within that issue or, shall I put it
              this way, that issue is not easily resolved from the
    16        environment's point of view?
              A.  Well, I agree that there are studies that have pointed
    17        to environmental problems associated with recycling
              paper.  At the time that we conducted our research on
    18        recycling, those studies had not been widely developed,
              and that in the sense that the issues we were raising
    19        about recycling contributed to that, the development of
              further research in that area.
    20
         Q.   One further question about your earlier evidence before
    21        I come back to your written statement.  Litter, I suppose
              it is the same in the United States as it is here, that
    22        the citizens of that country drop their environment/index.html">litter in the
              gutter?
    23        A.  Sorry?
 
    24   Q.   Do they?
              A.  Repeat that question.
    25
         Q.   Do citizens of the United States drop environment/index.html">litter? 
    26 
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know what "gutter" is in England? 
    27        A.  Yes.
 
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  There is a sidewalk.  It does not matter what a
              "gutter" is.  Do they drop it in the street?
    29        A.  We would call it a kerb.
 
    30   Q.   Sorry, drop it in the kerb, whatever, do they drop it in
              the countryside when they go on a picnic?

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