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1 that or the next thing, whether it is food or other
2 commodities. So, I think it is a real force if a company
3 that size is going to actually use it as an example of the
4 way it can benefit sales.
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6 MS. STEEL: Just one final thing on this paper which might be
7 relevant is on page 377, the section on nutrient intake at
8 the bottom of that page, about where children were
9 deriving their energy. You have mentioned some of it but
10 that is the summary?
11 A. Yes.
12
13 Q. Do you want to say anything about that?
14 A. Actually, I have to be perfectly frank and I thought
15 -- I was expecting higher figures than actually worked
16 out in practice. I think the concern that we had was more
17 in relation to the nutrient and vitamin intake which we
18 were -- we were also particularly concerned that the girls
19 were worse off than the boys, because these were, so far
20 as we were concerned, these children are going to be the
21 mothers in a fairly short space of time.
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23 Q. The figures that are given in terms of amount of energy
24 obtained from fat and saturated fat, they are above the
25 government's recommended dietary guidelines?
26 A. Yes, they are not spectacular.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When you say you were expecting figures
29 higher than you found -- in what respect?
30 A. Well, I would have thought their total fat intake
31 might have been closer to 40 per cent on inspection of
32 some of the data from what I knew, but it turned out that
33 it was 35 per cent, so that is -----
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35 Q. Can you say, quite shortly, what kind of dietary data it
36 was which led you to expect 40 per cent?
37 A. Well, I am actually giving you a wrong steer here
38 because, in fact, the way the dieticians have expressed
39 this information is to really talk about how many were
40 above a certain level. In other words, it really says
41 that 63 per cent of the children were above 35 per cent of
42 the energy, and I am not sure that I have answered your
43 question.
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45 Q. No. What I was asking is, what was the data or what kind
46 of data was it which made you expect 40 per cent?
47 A. General population data, that the population as a
48 whole is closer to 40 per cent, and so, therefore, you
49 would expect, if that is the sort of average, that more
50 than 50 per cent of the intakes would be above 40 per
51 cent. That was the sort of data that made me anticipate
52 we would have, but it may be partly due to the way the
53 dieticians expressed this information.
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55 Q. Does that mean the school children were really doing
56 better than the population as a whole?
57 A. In terms of the total fat intake, yes.
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59 Q. Looking at that column, nearly two-thirds of the children
60 were just about on the recommendation ---
