Day 248 - 13 May 96 - Page 38
1 Q. We all know what you think about McDonald's workers, but it
2 is pretty clear that London Greenpeace fact sheet included
3 the section criticising McDonald's for paying poor pay, low
4 pay and bad conditions, and having no union rights, and
5 that here we have London Greenpeace saying that they are
6 supporting other workers in their campaign for better pay
7 and conditions or union rights?
8 A. I do not know whether they want your support. I do not
9 think my people do. I think that has been shown in
10 testimony, certainly the testimony that I have read.
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12 Q. Have you wondered why----
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, do not take it up.
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16 MR. MORRIS: I was going to say something as a matter of market.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, do not. There may be, obviously,
19 matters of motive are relevant, but...
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21 MR. MORRIS: You chose to ignore everything in this leaflet
22 which might relate to McDonald's except for one particular
23 line did you?
24 A. Well, the one...
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26 Q. When you read this leaflet for the first time?
27 A. There was more than one line. There is a line in this
28 campaign talks about, sets it out quite clearly, "Our
29 objective, and one of our most successful campaigns, is the
30 one to smash McDonald's, the hamburger Corporation". It is
31 pretty clear to me what the intention was, you are boasting
32 about what you consider to be your most successful
33 campaign.
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35 Q. Yes, and, "It epitomises everything we despise, a junk
36 culture with deadly banality of capitalism." It is said in
37 that leaflet. People have a right to be opposed to
38 capitalism and want to change that system do they not?
39 A. Sure.
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41 Q. Right.
42 A. People also have a right to work to it if they wish.
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44 Q. And if the capitalism did not exist, was abolished,
45 McDonald's would cease to exist?
46 A. I do not know that that is true.
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48 Q. McDonald's is a capitalist organisation?
49 A. If capitalism ----
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51 Q. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that. We are
52 saying it is a fact, McDonald's is a capitalist
53 organisation?
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We are getting a bit bogged down.
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57 MR. MORRIS: OK, yes. The point is, you cannot use this leaflet
58 as a get-out clause to justify your improper motives, not
59 only in bringing the case as a form of censorship but also
60 in issuing 300,000 leaflets attacking a wide range of views
