Day 168 - 03 Oct 95 - Page 52


     
     1        did you hire taxis?
     2        A.  No, depending on what state the stock was in.  If it is
     3        frozen stock, then we had a company who had refrigerated
     4        vehicles that we could move the stock in, or you just ask
     5         -- an easy way of doing it would be to phone Golden West
     6        and ask if they had a truck in the area, because they have
     7        refrigerated vehicles anyway, and they would just pop it
     8        across for us, and -- the Golden West option is the easier
     9        one.  If it was refrigerated stock, again the same sort of
    10        rules would apply, and if it was dry stock, that is
    11        something like ketchup which did not need to be
    12        refrigerated ----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If it was what stock?
    15        A.  Dry stock.
    16
    17   Q.   No, the one before that?
    18        A.  Chilled, refrigerated rather than frozen -- if it was
    19        dry stock, something like ketchup or pickles or something
    20        similar or a paper stock, then you could just transport
    21        that in, say, a taxi or a store Manager's car.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  I will not ask you about customer complaints about
    24        under cooking, undercooked burgers until we get these
    25        documents.  Could we ask for an indication whether the
    26        documents are likely to arrive today?
    27
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  No, I do not think they are.  It has been a
    29        terrible paper chase.  We have made every effort we
    30        possibly can to find them.  The last that was known of them
    31        was -- the ones that Mr. Richards put in the post I know
    32        not what has happened to them; Royal Mail have to answer
    33        for that.  We have been seeking, obviously, duplicates of
    34        copies.  The last we were told was that the likely site for
    35        them was Sutton Coldfield, which is the head quarters for
    36        Mr. Richards' region, and we have made an enquiry there.
    37        I have not got them yet.  As soon as I have them I will
    38        disclose them.  Yes, they are being faxed in our chambers
    39        as soon as they are found.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is you press on because we
    42        have a lot of other discovery issues, and if we have
    43        discovery which requires the recall of Mr. Richards, then
    44        that is the course which we will be following.  What I am
    45        not prepared to do is make any decisions, even provisional
    46        now, until I know, at the end of the day, whether by
    47        direction or agreement, I know what extra documentation is
    48        to be disclosed and you have had an opportunity to look at
    49        its content.  How do you think you are doing with
    50        Mr. Richards at the moment? 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  Helen has some questions; I have got possibly 
    53        another hour and a half, or something.  So I think we will
    54        be going on tomorrow, but it should not go beyond ----
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How long do you think your questions will
    57        take?
    58
    59   MS. STEEL:   I am not sure, but I would say definitely not
    60        longer than an hour.

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