Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 56
1 A. No, I do not remember at all. You are talking about
2 Caledonian Road?
3
4 Q. Yes.
5 A. No, I do not remember when I saw you there.
6
7 Q. Do you remember if you saw me there at all?
8 A. Yes, I do remember seeing you there, but I do not
9 remember when that was. I attended quite a lot of meetings
10 and they have sort of blurred into one over the years.
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12 Q. According to your notes, the first meeting that I attended
13 that you recorded was 1st March 1990, which was ---
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15 MR. RAMPTON: No, no, my Lord.
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17 MR. MORRIS: -- at Caledonian Road, unless I am mistaken, is
18 three months -- sorry -- six months after you started
19 attending meetings?
20 A. Well, if that is in my notes, then I would have to
21 accept that.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are pushing at an open door here, you
24 know. If it is in his notes, he is going to accept it; and
25 if something he says is contradicted by his notes, he is
26 going to say, "Well, I have misremembered now all these
27 years later."
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29 MR. MORRIS: In terms of the involvement in London Greenpeace
30 for those six months where I attended a couple of public
31 meetings only, I had no involvement in the group
32 whatsoever, did I?
33 A. Well, I do not know. I was not with members of the
34 group 24 hours a day. Your name was certainly one that
35 came up within meetings; you were certainly talked about,
36 and people had obviously seen you outside the forum of
37 those meetings, because you were talked about. So how much
38 influence you exerted on the direction of the group,
39 I cannot say.
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41 Q. But I was not involved in the group, was I?
42 A. Well, I do not know. I do not know -----
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44 Q. You do not know if I was involved in the group?
45 A. Of course not. I did not stay with everybody in the
46 group all the time.
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48 Q. OK. In terms of your recording -----
49 A. In terms of meetings, then if my notes say that you
50 were not present, then I can only assume you were not
51 present.
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53 Q. The reality is, is it not, Mr. Pocklington, that for the
54 bulk of the time that you were attending and involved, that
55 you were involved with London Greenpeace, I was not
56 involved in any real way at all?
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He cannot say that. He has already said
59 that. It is a matter for me to decide, if necessary, when
60 I have heard all the evidence, all the witnesses. You are
