Day 266 - 20 Jun 96 - Page 51
1 MR. RAMPTON: I do not think I can remember what I was going to
2 ask.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think what were you were, if I may surmise,
5 hoping that you would be able to persuade Mrs. Brophy that
6 there was enough slack there to stay healthy.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: That is, if I may say so, one does not like to
9 suck up to Judges but Mrs. Brophy, that if I may say so is
10 very nicely put. If you had one of these meals once or
11 twice a week there is plenty of slack, is there not, for
12 even another one of those meals in a day even assuming
13 that is a realistic scenario which I do not propose it is?
14 A. Can you ask the question?
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16 Q. Sorry. I will start again. I would eat one of those meals
17 a day; take the second one, or the first. I do not mind.
18 Take the second one. I could eat the second meal every day
19 of my life, and I would still have room, if you would look
20 at the kilocalorie quantity, that meal provides 707
21 calories does it not, according to your second meal; meal
22 number 2, combination number 2, 707 calories which is about
23 a third of the energy requirement for the sort of man that
24 I am talking about, the 20 year old?
25 A. I think my experience as a dietitian would suggest
26 that people that actually eat like that, they might consume
27 the hamburger, regular French fries and milk and then, for
28 an afternoon snack, they might have a Mars Bar which is
29 also high in fat.
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31 Q. Yes, I know that?
32 A. It is, I think, you know, it might be theoretically
33 possible to do what you are suggesting, but in practice
34 nobody would actually do that. Nobody would eat a
35 McDonald's meal. I mean, if you could find me a member of
36 the population that does that I would be very interested.
37 I think it would be almost unheard of. People would not
38 eat a McDonald's meal and then go away and have a fruit
39 salad and have a high pasta with, you know, a low fat sauce
40 on it. It is not the way people eat.
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42 Q. But bear with me. Please, let me follow through my
43 reasoning and see if you agree. Take the second meal. You
44 could eat that second meal three times a day, if you could
45 face it, if you are the twenty year old man with an average
46 physical activity, weighing under 12 stone. You could eat
47 it three times a day and you exceed neither your
48 recommended fat level and you would get about your energy
49 requirement for that day, would you not?
50 A. You would probably only have to eat in addition, say
51 something quite moderate and healthy that most people would
52 think of, say something like a cheese sandwich bought from
53 Marks and Spencers plus, you know, a Mars Bar which is
54 probably the way that, you know, this man you are talking
55 about might eat. And in that instance you would very
56 easily push the fat proportions of your diet above the
57 Government's recommended levels.
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59 Q. If the individual, having had his McDonald's meal, then
60 goes away and has a huge pile of Mars Bars or, I do not
