Day 010 - 11 Jul 94 - Page 59


     
     1        A.  I imagine that it becomes a component of the
              construction degree waste stream.
     2
         Q.   Part of the solid waste stream, the municipal solid waste
     3        stream?
              A.  That is correct.
     4
         Q.   Should you not be concerned about it?
     5        A.  I would say in a general sense I have concerns about
              the need to recycled demolition degree and to eliminate as
     6        much as possible from the waste stream demolition degree
              that is useful.
     7
         Q.   You will correct me if I am wrong, but you appeared to be
     8        suggesting in answer to Mr. Morris' questions that your
              McRecycle campaign is entitled to the sole credit for
     9        McDonald's changeover from polystyrene and back to paper?
              A.  No, that would be incorrect.  What I said is that the
    10        overall three-year McToxics campaign and the work of
              hundreds, even thousands of local community activists and
    11        groups, is responsible for McDonald's decision to stop
              using polystyrene foam.
    12
         Q.   Are you conscious -- I expect you have done some research
    13         -- that there is no polystyrene foam now used in the
              whole of Latin America for the wrapping of McDonald's
    14        hamburgers there, and it is all paper?  Are you conscious
              of that?
    15        A.  I have seen testimony to that effect, yes.
 
    16   Q.   You have?
              A.  Yes.
    17
         Q.   You take credit for that too?
    18        A.  No.  I think that was the result of an ongoing process
              following the end of the campaign.
    19
         Q.   I just want to -----
    20        A.  It might also be related to pressures exerted on
              McDonald's in those countries that have nothing to do with
    21        it.
 
    22   Q.   Are there Latin America McToxic campaigns that you know
              about?
    23        A.  I am aware of groups working in Puerto Rico but not in
              South America.
    24
         Q.   I want to ask you one or two things about some answers you
    25        gave to Miss Steel and Mr. Morris.  You tell us that
              Suffolk County is one of those that have a law against the 
    26        use of polystyrene foam in packaging; is that right? 
              A.  What I said was that Suffolk County passed an 
    27        ordinance that was litigated by a group of users and
              makers of foam.
    28
         Q.   Who won the litigation?
    29        A.  As I understand it, the judge ruled that the matter
              needed to go back to counsel, go back to the governing
    30        body, for further deliberation.
 

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