Day 265 - 19 Jun 96 - Page 20


     
     1        to do more reading unless you have a specific task to
     2        perform tomorrow which you can say, "Look we need to do
     3        that and the progress of the case will be helped more by us
     4        doing that than by putting in an extra witness or doing
     5        some reading".  Again, I am not encouraging that but these
     6        are things I would like some thought to be given to before
     7        two o'clock.  I will break off now.
     8
     9   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, only one thing bearing on from what your
    10        Lordship said.  On Tuesday, Miss Steel told Mrs.
    11        Brinley-Codd that there were some further matters which she
    12        believed Miss Brophy would like to deal with when she gave
    13        evidence.  Miss Steel made an attempt, and this is not a
    14        criticism, to write them down for us but probably did not
    15        understand entirely what she had been told by Miss Brophy.
    16        If there are to be any further matters of any significance
    17        -- this may not be significant -- I really would like to
    18        have that additional information as soon as possible.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  If I say just briefly, she will be referring to the
    21        British Medical article about salt and hypotension which I
    22        gave a copy to the Plaintiffs.  And that apart from that I
    23        could not actually understand the notes that I had made,
    24        but looking back through them and when I finally managed to
    25        get hold of her last night, there is not that much actually
    26        new from what is in her statement already.  The only
    27        additional thing is she is likely to talk about the extent
    28        of the risk, about whether it is very real or serious
    29        which, in her view, it is, and possibly to talk about, just
    30        refer to, some of the figures for the numbers of people
    31        affected by heart disease which are in documents already
    32        disclosed and referred to by, I think, the Plaintiff's
    33        witness and that is, I think, basically it.  I do not think
    34        there is anything particularly new coming up.
    35
    36   MR. RAMPTON:  In that case, my Lord, I am not fussed about
    37        having anything in writing.  Also I can say that I do not
    38        believe that my cross-examination of Miss Brophy will be
    39        extensive.  May be half or three-quarters-of-an-hour.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Very well.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  So I am sure there will be some spare time
    44        tomorrow even if we do not start until half-past-11.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If we do not start until half-past-11, I
    47        think at the very least you should be prepared to do some
    48        of your essential reading, but if we can have you may well
    49        take the view that you do not require to ask, do not need
    50        to ask, any further questions of either Mr. Pocklington or 
    51        Mr Bishop but if you do and you can decide that by this 
    52        afternoon, and if Mrs. Brinley-Codd can find out whether in 
    53        any event either of them can attend just in case that might
    54        be helpful.
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:  Could we have until ten past 12?  We have not
    57        discussed anything.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, all right.
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