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1 that is the Amazon frontier.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. But he goes on to say that he does not
4 accept that it was ever rain forest down to the red line,
5 does he not?
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7 MR. MORRIS: He says, on page 66 at the bottom, he does not know
8 where the deforestation has taken place, most of the
9 deforestation that has occurred in the last 50 years. Then
10 he says, over the page, that he has not checked.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Then he says that he does know that it did
13 not go down as far as the red line, does he not?
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15 MR. MORRIS: Then I asked him, in the middle of the second
16 page:
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18 "You do not know what part of, say, for example, the dense
19 forest may have been, in fact, originally all rain forest?"
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21 He says: "No, originally, I do not know."
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23 Then you asked him whether the rain forest extended down to
24 the Amazon frontier line.
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26 He says: "OK, that one, that one I know."
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28 "How do you know that?"
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30 "Because I had discussions with that."
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32 So that is not based upon his knowledge.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But what are you relying on there as some
35 positive evidence in your favour?
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37 MR. MORRIS: He accepts that that is the Amazon frontier, and
38 beyond that -----
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are looking for rain forest, are you not?
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42 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I understand that.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you had a good point on this, I would have
45 thought it would not be that difficult to find someone who
46 could say ------
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48 MR. MORRIS: I have not -- yes.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are going to come to that?
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52 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I am going to come to that. I am not
53 necessarily doing this in the best order. I will come back
54 to Dr. Gomez Gonzales in a minute. We then come on to --
55 I have here a copy of Collins' Atlas of the World, if I can
56 hand up a copy of the section? This is the Collins' Atlas
57 of the World which was first published in 1983, reprinted
58 four times up to the second edition in 1988, then reprinted
59 in third edition, 1991, and fourth edition, 1993.
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