Day 184 - 06 Nov 95 - Page 43


     
     1        So you were for then -- was he for negotiations between the
     2        union and the employer to get enhanced benefits?
     3        A.  I am sorry.  I am sorry, I do not understand the
     4        question.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just ask the question.  Try not to say "so".
     7        I know we have had it, and if you fall into a way of speech
     8        it is very difficult to remember to miss it.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  Negotiation between -- is it something that you
    11        would, thinking back on it, now support, negotiations
    12        between -----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it?  You see, I do not know, that is where
    15        you have taken a leap.  You may be right, but I do not
    16        think she has accepted that she was for negotiation.  Maybe
    17        Miss Iurilla is for it, maybe she is not.  But she has not
    18        expressed a view to me at the moment.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness): Is it now something that you
    21        would support, which is negotiations between unions and the
    22        employers to get enhanced benefits for crew workers?
    23        A.  At McDonald's, no.
    24
    25   Q.   Really, you are just anti-union?
    26        A.  No, I would not say that.  I mean, if I went to another
    27        job and, you know, maybe from when I worked there and I was
    28        not happy and, you know, I thought a union could do some
    29        good, then I would definitely try.  But at McDonald's I am
    30        happy, so why would I want to disrupt that?
    31
    32   Q.   So your position is that if McDonald's workers are unhappy
    33        and want to improve things, then it is a reasonable step to
    34        take to join a union and negotiate for improvements?
    35        A.  If that is what they feel, then go for it.
    36
    37   Q.   You said that it was Sarah Ingliss mainly, and
    38        Chris Morrison.  How many others, apart from those two, who
    39        were actually really doing a lot of work in talking to
    40        people, and stuff?
    41        A.  I am not sure exactly.  I know Sarah -- well,
    42        Chris Morrison said to me that he had a list of 10 to 15
    43        people which Sara told him to get to sign up, like, get
    44        them to sign cards; and he said that there were other
    45        people with the same list with lists of 10 to 15 crew that
    46        they were to try and get to sign cards.  So -- and, I mean,
    47        Chris Morrison was the one approaching me.  I do not know
    48        who approached who, so -----
    49
    50   Q.   So you got advice about organising a petition to the 
    51        Ontario Labour Relations Board from Chris Broom's father? 
    52        A.  From Chris Broom. 
    53
    54   Q.   Through his father?
    55        A.  And Chris Broom, I assume, talked to his father, yes.
    56
    57   Q.   Right.  You said at the bottom of page of
    58        paragraph 20: "The advice about the petition which we have
    59        received from Chris Broom's father".
    60        A.  I had assumed that it was from Chris.

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