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     1        Medical Association, with which I have no doubt he is
     2        familiar, and sections from his own books.  They will not
     3        surprise him either.  But he will get more illumination I
     4        suspect from Dr. Arnott's references and from the
     5        references of Mr. Cannon and Professor Crawford.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Would you kindly do that, Dr. Barnard?
     8
     9   THE WITNESS:  Yes.
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  Is it all right that we sort that out with the
    12        witnesses when he has finished today, give him all the
    13        references?
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Make sure he has got a copy of each of the
    16        bundles Mr. Rampton has referred to.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  I think it is right that when he has done that
    19        task, it should have been done before but not matter,
    20        perhaps tomorrow morning, perhaps very late tonight, the
    21        Defendants to speak to the witness so as to save time
    22        tomorrow to find out what it is exactly he is interested
    23        in referring, without making any attempt to persuade him
    24        to do otherwise.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:  There is an awful lot of stuff to read through.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He cannot read every word.  Dr. Barnard,
    29        I am sure, is familiar with the articles in the pale green
    30        bundle, so it is a question of really just going through
    31        the index on the front of the bundle and making a note for
    32        his own purposes for that.  I suggest you make an effort
    33        to get here a bit earlier in the morning and/or you make
    34        an arrangement for him to read it tomorrow, so that he can
    35        just say 4, 8, 12, 15, whatever it is, and you can tick
    36        them on your list.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You do not necessarily have to take the
    41        whole bundle.  What you have to take home are the first
    42        few pages before the green divider which has the index to
    43        it.  What Dr. Barnard has to do is to look at the papers
    44        which Mr. Rampton has referred to, at least, so that he
    45        can read the synopsis or summary at the front.  I would be
    46        surprised if he is not familiar with a lot of them.  So,
    47        it will not be as if he is coming to them, hopefully,
    48        complete afresh.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:   It may be some time since he has read them.  His 
    51        statement was written a year ago. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It may be, but it sounds to me a field
    54        Dr. Barnard is perpetually engaged in and I do not suppose
    55        he has forgotten them particularly.    I think you should
    56        try to get here a bit earlier in the morning.  You have
    57        permission to speak to Dr. Barnard, not about how he is
    58        going to express his evidence -- there is no point in
    59        doing that because he has actually given his evidence
    60        apart from the references -- but mechanics of how he would

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