Day 107 - 24 Mar 95 - Page 29


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.  Do you want to ask Mr. North any more
     2        questions?
     3
     4   MR. MORRIS:  I am completely all over the place now in where we
     5        are in the examination.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just sit down -- I will not leave court --
     8        and collect yourself.  Where you actually were was in a
     9        restaurant in Leeds.  If I can just remind you, you had
    10        asked about the ramifications for food safety if one worked
    11        quickly.  You had an answer that the critical control was
    12        cooking of the product and pushing time on that had
    13        implications for the food safety.
    14
    15        You had then asked what, if any, conclusion Mr. North drew
    16        from the Shrewsbury and Kingston incidents.  He said he
    17        could not express surprise about that and gave some more
    18        answers.  You then got to Preston and we put that on one
    19        side to the extent which has been explained, and the
    20        question is what you were going to go on to after
    21        Shrewsbury, Kingston and Preston.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  The problem is, of course, that a lot of the thing
    24        in the actual store relates to matters that might come out
    25        of Preston and Mr. North's further report.  So, I do not
    26        know if it is a good idea to embark upon -----
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can embark upon it, if you want.  What
    29        I suggest is that you can perfectly well do that if you
    30        have aspects about procedure in the store that you want to
    31        ask Mr. North about.  You need not illustrate it with
    32        Preston; we will see what comes of that.  But if you have
    33        reason to believe that he would be critical of this
    34        procedure or that procedure, or if you want to ask him
    35        about it anyway, do so.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  I think it might be better to leave it until
    38        Mr. North's supplementary report.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not forget, Preston is not the be and end
    41        all of food poisoning, so you could ask him about that if
    42        you wished.  Then I noticed the very last paragraph of his
    43        13th January visit report is a general comment on
    44        McDonald's.  There is a question, whether you want to
    45        elicit something like that or not from him.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  Mr. North, the tests that you saw
    48        conducted at the store for the efficient cooking of the
    49        products, how reassuring are those tests that you saw, and
    50        the tests which I do not think you saw but the Plaintiffs 
    51        have said that they do, which is internal thermometer 
    52        testing? 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What test did you see being done?  You saw
    55        the calibration of temperature of the grill, did you?
    56        A.  That is right, and the product temperature testing.
    57
    58   Q.   And the?
    59        A.  The product temperature testing.  I can answer the
    60        question.

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