Day 153 - 12 Jul 95 - Page 62
1 everybody else, rather than sit in an office and govern it
2 from upstairs. That, as I remember, is the type of sort of
3 dissatisfaction that he expressed.
4
5 Q. So all the points in his statement that he made that you
6 are looking at, you did not hear about any of those kinds
7 of dissatisfactions from Kevin at the time regarding -----
8 A. Such as what?
9
10 Q. Labour costs being of paramount importance?
11 A. I do not remember him expressing any opinion at all on
12 labour costs -----
13
14 Q. Managers encouraged to keep employees ignorant of their
15 entitlement to various payments, overtime payments?
16 A. He never brought any of those allegations you have just
17 -----
18
19 Q. Discretionary bonuses?
20 A. No.
21
22 Q. Crew members working on an entire shift without a break,
23 health and safety, no shoes with non-slip soles provided?
24 A. I mean, Kevin was a salaried Manager, so the specific
25 instance of the -- it would have been his job to make sure
26 that crew got a break on a particular shift because he
27 would have been the shift runner.
28
29 Q. In general a "them and us" attitude was fostered between
30 crew and Managers?
31 A. I think that in Kevin's case it was the fact that he
32 felt we should have been more aloof and less working
33 shoulder to shoulder with the crew rather than a "them and
34 us" type situation.
35
36 Q. So when he complains about a "them and us" attitude, what
37 he really means is it should have been more "them and us",
38 should it, is that what you are saying?
39 A. I am saying at the time that he perceived we should not
40 have been working shoulder to shoulder with the crew in the
41 restaurant. He felt we should have been more aloof and
42 away from the operation.
43
44 Q. If he says: "I believe there was very much a hidden agenda
45 of exploitation of crew members wherever possible by all
46 levels of management", that was not something that he had
47 brought up at the time, as far as you remember?
48 A. I cannot remember him ---
49
50 Q. You cannot remember, no?
51 A. -- saying anything as general as that.
52
53 Q. Because at McDonald's everybody is happy all the time, is
54 it not, Mr. Davis?
55 A. They are not happy all the time.
56
57 Q. It is happyland, is it not, at McDonald's?
58 A. Is that a question?
59
60 Q. Yes.
