Day 167 - 02 Oct 95 - Page 63


     
     1        A.  No, it would be -- you would be able to find that out
     2        by adding them all up and when they got their payslip they
     3        would get a total on there, but for the end of each two
     4        week period there would be, like, a running total of what
     5        they worked because that would be the length of the pay
     6        period we would get a report.
     7
     8   Q.   That would be for each person?
     9        A.  It would do, yes.
    10
    11   Q.   How many pages long would that document be?
    12        A.  About probably double the normal, so perhaps 18 pages.
    13
    14   Q.   18 pages per fortnight?
    15        A.  Per fortnight, about 20 pages, perhaps, yes.
    16
    17   Q.   Was that for just about the number of hours they had worked
    18        or other information as well?
    19        A.  It would give us the information on what hours they had
    20        worked that pay period in each category, so regular
    21        evenings and premium hours, it would tell us what pay rate
    22        they were paid for each hour.  It would then give you a sub
    23        total of the amount they had earned for, say, the regular
    24        hours, and if it included any bank holiday pay or
    25        miscellaneous pay.
    26
    27   Q.   Right, and the crew would be spread over the whole of that
    28        18 or 20 pages?
    29        A.  Yes.  Every hour it would include Floor Managers and
    30        maintenance workers, almost every hourly paid employee.
    31
    32   Q.   That is since the computer system has come in, is it?
    33        A.  Since 1990 or 1991, yes, maybe 1989, yes, since we have
    34        had the Husky Hunter system.  We had the system at least
    35        five years, I think.  I do not recall exactly when it came
    36        in.
    37
    38   Q.   How long were those records kept for?
    39        A.  I do not think we actually needed to keep them because
    40        we keep the individual day's clock-cards.  So what you
    41        generally do is you use it as a reference point.  If the
    42        crew member, for instance, on -- because the crew members
    43        do not receive their payslips until Thursday afternoon, you
    44        will get a report out at the end of the pay period on the
    45        Saturday night.  So, if a crew member came to you and asked
    46        you between Sunday/Monday:  "How much have I earned?" you
    47        would be able to tell them.  But we do not actually have a
    48        separate file for those pieces of paper.
    49
    50   Q.   Are they not used in the compilation of the records that we 
    51        have seen elsewhere in this case, about how many people in 
    52        any given store are working more than 78 hours in a 
    53        fortnight or 96 hours in a fortnight?
    54        A.  No.  The computer would be able to tell you that but it
    55        would come off on a separate report.  You would get a crew
    56        with zero hours report, which would tell who did not work
    57        at all, and you would get a report saying whoever worked
    58        over 39 hours a week.
    59
    60   Q.   So get a report saying the names of crew who did not work

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