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1 stocks?
2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We did go through this yesterday really. It
keeps the bird calmer.
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. I had assumed that it would be commercially sound to keep
the lighting as low as is consistent with what other
5 factors you are taking into account, because the stronger
the lighting the greater your bills in that respect?
6 A. It is the higher the lighting, the more the activity
of the birds and the more energy they dissipate in not
7 growing. They just produce heat instead through their
activity, so they are spending more time moving about and
8 not growing so fast.
9 Q. And that is a greater commercial factor than the cost of
brighter lighting?
10 A. I think that is one of the main reasons why some
flocks keep it at about one and a half lux which some
11 flocks are, at that sort of level.
12 Q. So, if I was thinking of the actual cost of lighting, you
I think I would be on the wrong track?
13 A. I think that is insignificant compared with as a real
cost.
14
MR. MORRIS: There is a whole subject we want to deal with
15 fairly briefly which is the laying birds, egg laying
birds, in the industry. You have not seen any of
16 McDonald's suppliers as regards egg laying, have you? You
have never studied that?
17 A. I have been to one company which, I believe, supplies
them, yes. I have not reported on it though.
18
Q. Which company is that?
19 A. We are talking about eggs for consumption as eggs in
McDonald's outlets, are we?
20
Q. Yes.
21 A. I have been to Oasters, yes.
22 Q. With the court's permission, maybe we should leave that
because we were not aware you had any experience in that,
23 and we have not prepared questions.
24 MR. RAMPTON: The reason Dr. Gregory has not made a report
about Oasters is perfectly apparent. It is an allegation
25 of the Defence which has been admitted in its entirety.
26 MS. STEEL: It has not, though; I do not think it has.
27 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, it has.
28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We can look at it if there is a dispute
about it. But whether you ask -- this applies not just to
29 Dr. Gregory but anybody else -- you are not obliged to ask
the other side's witness questions about a matter on which
30 he has not embarked in-chief. You may or may not be able
to do so. There might be an argument about whether it is
