Day 203 - 12 Jan 96 - Page 47
1 complete fabrication, what you said.
2
3 Q. You spoke to Sally Spurgeon about this incident of hours
4 docking, and you say that she denied she was responsible,
5 and she said that she had given all Managers, including
6 Floor Manager, access to her personal Husky Hunter
7 password. Did you ask her why she had done that?
8 A. Yes, I believe I did ask her why she had done it.
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10 Q. What reason did she give?
11 A. I cannot recall.
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13 Q. All managers have their own personal passwords, have they
14 not?
15 A. Yes. All salaried Managers have their own password.
16 The procedure was for Floor Managers, I think, that they
17 had to have it verified by the Senior Supervisor or
18 Supervisor, I think, that they could use the Hunter.
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20 I cannot recall what reason Sally gave. I think it is
21 possible, though, that it was expedient in terms of
22 allowing people that were not authorised to use the Hunter;
23 and that would have included quite a number of people who
24 were not authorised to use the Hunter.
25
26 Q. Why should she have given them to other people who did have
27 their own passwords?
28 A. In fact, what I am saying is that she gave them to
29 people who did not have their own passwords as well. Other
30 people seemed to know what Sally Spurgeon's password was
31 who perhaps were authorised also.
32
33 Q. Why did you believe her when she said that it was not her
34 and that it was other Floor Managers ---
35 A. I did not believe anyone.
36
37 Q. -- other Managers?
38 A. I did not believe anyone at the time.
39
40 Q. You did not believe anyone?
41 A. No. I was looking for a reason to believe everyone,
42 because I was suspicious of everybody and anybody in the
43 restaurant at that stage who had access to that password.
44 Sally was desperate; she was desperate in her responses to
45 me; she completely denied ever having taken anybody's hours
46 off their clock card, and said that other people were using
47 her clock card. That is the position she maintained. Now,
48 I do not think she could substantiate that. I think she
49 had probably done it, but I think that is possible, now
50 with the benefit of hindsight.
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52 I could not, in truth, identify who had done it.
53 I suspected Ray. I suspected Sally. I suspected that
54 other Managers had done it as well.
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56 Why do I think that she had availed other people of her
57 clock card number? I think, in all honesty, she could have
58 done it out of expedience, carelessness.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Tell me about that. Why? What was the
