Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 33


     
     1   MS. STEEL:   It is not necessarily a question of very extensive
     2        legal advice.  I mean, often it is just quite hard to
     3        arrange a time when we can both attend a meeting -- I mean
     4        both as in both of us and the solicitor and/or barrister.
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am bit puzzled -----
     7
     8   MS. STEEL:  We are going to do our best anyway.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do your very best.  Do not assume that I will
    11        not say:  "No, we must get on with it next week" because
    12        that may very well be the situation if we cannot fill the
    13        time anyway.
    14
    15   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not know whether, my Lord, it was the fruit
    16        of legal advice or not, but there was, if your Lordship
    17        remembers, extensive reference to Charleston in the
    18        Defendants' skeleton argument when they sought to strike
    19        out the case on nutrition.
    20
    21   MS. STEEL:   Which is why we have a different opinion on what
    22        the Charleston case means.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not let us argue it now.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  Can I just say that just regarding the Bath
    27        documents as a result of the cross-examination of
    28        Mr. Richards, we would like to add a couple of documents to
    29        the list.  I do not know if you still have the list
    30        somewhere?
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  The service history file for 1994, which is
    35        basically about maintenance of equipment and stuff like
    36        that, and the internal temperatures check book, I believe
    37        Mr. Richards called it, where they note the internal
    38        temperatures of the food that is cooked, meat products.  I
    39        am just saying 1994 because that seems to be the reasonable
    40        time in issue.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.
    43
    44   MR. RAMPTON:  While your Lordship and the Defendants were
    45        discussing matters a moment ago, I have been told that
    46        Mr. Fairgreave would be in difficulties on 11th, 12th and
    47        13th, but is free on 9th and 10th.  Whether that helps or
    48        not, I do not know, if your Lordship has a preference for
    49        Mr. Fairgreave, which I understand you do.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know what the difficulty is on 11th? 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord, I do not.  I am a little bit, shall
    54        I say, cautious about poor Mr. Fairgreave because he has
    55        been brought up and put down so many times before.  He is
    56        doing a presentation on behalf of McDonald's to an outside
    57        body.  I am unwilling, given the history, to disturb him
    58        yet again.  He is free on the 9th and 10th.  We have told
    59        him for the time being to hold the 9th and 10th free.
    60

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