Day 274 - 04 Jul 96 - Page 42


     
     1   Q.   So you had been up to the Nags Head McDonald's to hold a
     2        picket with some people from Hackney and Islington animal
     3        rights group; is that right?
     4        A.  Yes, if it says so here, yes.
     5
     6   Q.   And you reported on that picket to the people at London
     7        Greenpeace?
     8        A.  I would have just said three people turned up, or
     9        however many people turned up, and we handed out leaflets,
    10        yes.
    11
    12   Q.   Can I suggest the reason you reported on that picket by
    13        Hackney and Islington animal rights people to London
    14        Greenpeace is that hostilities in McDonald's was a shared
    15        interest of the two groups?
    16        A.  Well, you could suggest that but, I mean, I would
    17        disagree.  It is my political involvement that I am
    18        reporting on, not everyone in the group is involved in
    19        McDonald's campaign, as I have said before, and everyone
    20        also reported on what they were particularly active in
    21        outside London Greenpeace.  It was a forum, it was a
    22        network, it was a way of sharing what was going on in
    23        London.  I do not expect to get a gold star for it.
    24
    25   Q.   Sorry.  Over the page 201D, you remember this appears
    26        before Mr. Gravett arrived.  It says, "The next matter to
    27        be discussed was McDonald's."
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  Do we know that this is before Mr. Gravett arrives
    30        because there is no time on this one.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  I deduced that from Mr. Bishop's report.  "The
    33        next matter to be discussed was McDonald's.  Helen produce
    34        a book on McDonald's by John F Love entitled 'Behind The
    35        Arches'.  It appeared to be about the financial rise of
    36        McDonald's."  Do you remember that?
    37        A.  I remember the book vaguely.  I have never read the
    38        book, but I have seen a copy of it in the office.
    39
    40   Q.   Then it says, "It was agreed that picketing of McDonald's
    41        would take place on 16th October 1990 between 4 p.m. and
    42        6 p.m.  Anti-McDonald's leaflets are to be distributed
    43        outside the McDonald's headquarters in Finchley Road.  A
    44        further picket would be placed outside McDonald's Nags Head
    45        branch between 12 noon and 2 p.m. on 16th October.  It is
    46        possible that another picket will be placed outside the
    47        Oxford Street/Tottenham Court Road branch of McDonald's.
    48        It should be noted that the Hackney and Islington animal
    49        rights are picketing the Dorston junction McDonald's at
    50        seven o'clock in the evening."  Do you see all that?
    51        A.  Yes.
    52
    53   Q.   That is right, is it not, that was agreed at that meeting?
    54        A.  I do not know if it was agreed at that meeting.  Maybe
    55        it was merely reported on.  But, I mean, I would say that
    56        the Nags Head branch was picketed by Hackney and Islington
    57        animal rights campaign.  If it was not specifically, it
    58        would only be members of Hackney and Islington animal
    59        rights campaign that went there.  I was heavily involved in
    60        that group and we regularly picketed that branch.  People

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