Day 081 - 31 Jan 95 - Page 40
1 A. If you are referring to older type of premises, there
2 may be but not usually in the case of cattle.
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4 Q. But that is something to be discouraged, is it, the
5 crossing of the line with contaminated material?
6 A. Yes. I cannot think of a situation in which it might
7 occur.
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You had better explain what "crossing the
10 line" means to me.
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12 MR. MORRIS: Say, for example, contaminated material is taken
13 off a carcass and you have the line of all the carcasses
14 moving along the route projected here, and then someone was
15 to wheel a barrel full of contaminated material across that
16 line, that is something that should not happen?
17 A. No.
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19 Q. I think you said the splitting saw, round about the
20 splitting saw area, which is in the middle of this floor
21 plan, is that generally where the meat inspectors will be
22 checking?
23 A. Well, in this particular case the meat inspection is
24 just beyond that, the next stage, the next stage along.
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26 Q. After that?
27 A. Yes.
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29 Q. If a carcass, there is a problem and it needs to be taken
30 to the detained room, it is often detained, is it not, for
31 quite a considerable time while it is being checked or
32 whatever?
33 A. Well, a few hours possibly, yes.
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35 Q. The detained room, is that chilled in a typical well-run
36 plant?
37 A. I do not think so, no.
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39 Q. It is not?
40 A. It could be but I do not think there is a requirement
41 for it to be chilled.
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43 Q. I do not mean the condemned room; I mean the detained
44 room.
45 A. Yes. I take it you are referring to slaughterhouses,
46 in general, rather than this particular one?
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48 Q. Yes. Because you do not know; you have not been here so
49 you do not know?
50 A. No.
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52 Q. I am just asking general questions. Where the inspection
53 is, around that area there is a wash, a hose wash of
54 carcasses -- just take my word for it -- that is the area
55 where the hose washing takes place, around that area.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: Wait a minute, my Lord, I do not understand why
58 Mr. Morris should expect Professor Jackson to take his word
59 for anything at all.
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