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1 countries was on a minimum wage or close to a minimum wage
2 for that country?
3 A. No, I do not, my Lord. If -- there may have been an
4 isolated conversation, but I have no recollection of those
5 -- of any conversation or knowing any percentages.
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7 MR. MORRIS: You said you had not visited Norway; is that
8 correct?
9 A. That is correct. I have never been to Norway.
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11 Q. Were you aware of any dispute in the 1980s over
12 discrimination against union members or management being
13 accused of being anti-union?
14 A. No, I do not.
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16 Q. You do not know anything about it?
17 A. No, I do not. I know that some restaurants there have
18 a union and some do not, but I am not aware of any
19 disputes.
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21 Q. I am doing these in the order they are in, so if you just
22 go to page 10 of that document, please?
23 A. Are they numbered that way?
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25 Q. At the top right-hand corner, Mac D10.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Go on a bit further and you come to a
28 document.
29 A. OK, I see the numbers.
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31 MR. MORRIS: You have Mac D10?
32 A. Sure do.
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34 Q. Read the paragraph under "The Netherlands"?
35 A. OK.
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37 Q. Just hold on one minute and I will ask you a question.
38 I thought we had a Civil Evidence Act notice on this, but
39 we cannot find one. In fact, this item here that you have
40 just read is exactly the same quote as pleading No. 111.
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42 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord ----
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44 MR. MORRIS: That may be relevant so that everyone knows what we
45 are talking about.
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47 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is not exactly the same quote. They
48 are not verbatim. It is obvious that passage 111 is based
49 on this passage in this document and, as far as I know,
50 nothing else.
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52 MR. MORRIS: Do you know anything about a dispute or concerns
53 expressed by trade unions in the Netherlands around 1979 or
54 1980, or around that period, regarding McDonald's minimum
55 wage rates and their relation with the collective
56 agreements for the hotel and restaurant industry?
57 A. I have no knowledge of anything like this at all. My
58 knowledge of the Netherlands, in fact, is that the unions
59 there did something rather unusual several years ago, and
60 that is that they had bill boards up indicating if someone
