Day 148 - 05 Jul 95 - Page 44
1 MS. STEEL: They would all be privileged anyway.
2
3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. You can claim privilege, if you like.
4 You list the documents and claim privilege for them. What
5 I suggest you do is take some advice on what the normal
6 form is. All you are being asked to do is follow the
7 normal procedure, get yourselves, if you do not already
8 have it, a copy of the normal printed form of list which
9 has different parts to it, the documents which you think
10 fall into different categories.
11
12 MR. MORRIS: I think it should be borne in mind if any ruling is
13 made on this that we only have limited hours in the day,
14 and time spent on one thing is time not spent on something
15 else.
16
17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That may be, but do not forget I do not know
18 what documentation you have. For all I know, your list may
19 have one document on it or 500 documents on it. I just do
20 not know.
21
22 MR. MORRIS: Right. While we are on the subject, just in
23 passing, there is something we wanted to bring up regarding
24 Mr. Rampton's wild claim last week, or the week before
25 last, that the statement issued publicly by the Defendants
26 on the anniversary of the trial contained lies; that
27 Mr. Rampton should either withdraw that remark or he should
28 specify exactly what statement in it, which line, what
29 wording, is lies. If he does that, we will bring
30 documentary evidence to refute their claim. That is, he
31 should withdraw it otherwise because people should not make
32 wild claims, as I have been told, unless they are willing
33 to back them up, which I have done.
34
35 MR. RAMPTON: Should I respond to that, my Lord?
36
37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. This is supposed to be an interlocutory
38 hearing ---
39
40 MR. MORRIS: I understand.
41
42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- into applications for various kinds of
43 interlocutory relief. Just let it pass, Mr. Rampton. I am
44 sure you have plenty you would like to say.
45
46 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord. The only observation I make was that
47 I made those remarks in chambers, such remarks as I made --
48 not in open court.
49
50 MS. STEEL: They are still in front of -----
51
52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When I said we should go into open court,
53 I said some restraint must be shown by the parties. The
54 restraint which must be shown is primarily this, that let
55 us deal with the interlocutory matters on which I have to
56 make a decision rather than arguments about whether someone
57 has behaved properly or otherwise in relation to matters
58 which I do not have to decide among the interlocutory
59 applications. Let us get through those.
60
