Day 275 - 08 Jul 96 - Page 24
1 was not with Mr. Morris when he prepared the affidavit or
2 swore it, but I do remember that a few weeks -- or a few
3 days, I am not really sure exactly how long after, but
4 within a couple of weeks of the time when he had done the
5 affidavit Mr. Morris showed me the affidavit when I was on
6 the tube. We were travelling somewhere, I cannot remember
7 where. He gave it to me to read, because, I mean, I have
8 actually been involved with the Unwaged Centre and the
9 Claimants Union from time to time because, obviously, I
10 lived in Haringey, so, you know, I had an interest in what
11 was going on in Haringey.
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13 Q. Well, there is an account of it in your affidavit. You put
14 the affidavit in for the purposes of the application to
15 amend?
16 A. Yes.
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18 Q. If you want that to be part of your evidence now all you
19 need say is that it is true, if that is what you to say,
20 subject to any additions or alterations you want to make to
21 it.
22 A. Yes, it is true and, yes, I do want to have it in as
23 part of my evidence. I do clearly recollect Mr. Morris
24 showing me the affidavit on the tube and me saying to him,
25 "What on earth does it say that for", and Mr. Morris's
26 reaction being that he had not even noticed that it said
27 that and then he was, sort of, saying does it really
28 matter, you know, we have got enough on our plate as it is,
29 we were charging around trying to sort out the schedule for
30 the next lot of witnesses and doing other things for the
31 case.
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33 So, he was not keen on going to get it sorted out just
34 because of the amount of hassle it would involve, and the
35 fact that it was so peripheral to the other case and had
36 nothing to do with this case. But when we discussed it he
37 agreed that, yes, it was important to go and set the record
38 straight because obviously, you know, when it was pointed
39 out he obviously knew that it was not true, so it was
40 important to set the record straight. And then a few weeks
41 later, or a few days later, I cannot really remember
42 exactly when, but fairly shortly afterwards he told me that
43 he had contacted the solicitors and that they had said that
44 they would amend it.
45
46 Obviously, basically, what it says is completely
47 untrue. I did not have any hand in producing the
48 fact sheet, and to the best of my knowledge neither did
49 Mr. Morris. If I just say, actually, that in October 1986
50 Mr. Morris was actually living at the same address as me.
51 It was a housing cooperative and there were about six or
52 seven people living there, and I do not remember ever
53 seeing the fact sheet or a draft of it, or anything like
54 that, being brought back to the house. I do not remember
55 Mr. Morris saying anything about it, and I am sure that I
56 would have done if he had mentioned it to me, or if he had
57 shown it to me I am sure I would have remembered it. I
58 mean, obviously, I was not involved in the group at the
59 time, so that is about as much as I know about it.
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