Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 34


     
     1        visit the farms?
     2        A.  No.
     3
     4   Q.   You did not?
     5        A.  No.
     6
     7   Q.   So you do not know what the conditions are like on the
     8        farms at all?
     9        A.  No, I do not.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So, same policy and attitude as with regard
    12        to beef?
    13        A.  Yes, sir.
    14
    15   MS. STEEL:  Were you asked to find out?
    16        A.  No.
    17
    18   Q.   I have actually come to a bit of a break anyway.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, right, we will break off there.  How are
    21        you doing at the moment?
    22
    23   MS. STEEL:   Not too badly now, I think.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you think you will finish this afternoon?
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:  I hope so, yes.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  We will make every effort to.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Shall we resume at ten to two?  Does
    32        that inconvenience anyone?
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:  It does actually make it a bit difficult for us --
    35        five to two?
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Five to, right.
    38
    39                            (Luncheon Adjournment)
    40
    41                                                1.55 p.m.
    42
    43   MS. STEEL:  Can I just ask, the EC guidelines relating to
    44        slaughter, did you say they included things about animal
    45        welfare?
    46        A.  No, I did not.
    47
    48   Q.   You did not?  Do they include anything about animal
    49        welfare?
    50        A.  Apart from the lairage, there must be fresh water -- it 
    51        is just taken down from the 1958 Act; it is very similar to 
    52        the 1958 British Act -- water, shelter from sun, drainage 
    53        and things of that nature.  Those are the only things in
    54        the directive.
    55
    56   Q.   In the EEC directive?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   Does it include things like stunning current or anything
    60        like that?

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