Day 182 - 02 Nov 95 - Page 46
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What Mr. Rampton was suggesting to you was
3 that McDonald's previous system of a starting rate but then
4 performance related increases was as good as or better than
5 just a basic rate agreed by the union plus overtime, do you
6 see, without performance related increases?
7 A. Well, the only performance related increases that were
8 established before the agreement was, I believe, one kroner
9 for crew trainers and two kroners for floor managers, and a
10 little bit of mathematics, I think you would find out that
11 is not very much.
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13 MR. RAMPTON: Are you saying there were not in Norway -- I am
14 not in a position to contradict you, Mr. Jenssen, at the
15 moment -- periodic performance reviews for every member of
16 the hourly paid staff?
17 A. Who had the normal SOC, that is, Station Observation
18 Checklist, which is part of the training system, everyone
19 goes through that, but the only effect they have on your
20 pay is that in order to become a Floor Manager, a host, a
21 crew trainer -- yes, I forgot to mention a host also has
22 two kroners extra -- the only connection they have with
23 that is that you have to have all your SOCs in order, which
24 means you have to have two or three SOCs in every station
25 in the restaurant a hundred per cent correct and before you
26 can be promoted so .....
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28 Q. Can I understand? It is probably a possibility that a
29 different system operates, I just do not know. Are you
30 telling us (because one must be clear about this so that
31 I can find out about it) that the ordinary crew member
32 cannot get a pay rise under the old system unless he or she
33 is promoted?
34 A. Yes, I have never heard about an instance where someone
35 has been given a performance related pay that has not been
36 connected with a promotion.
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38 Q. I see. Can I ask you this in relation to pay as well,
39 Mr. Jenssen? Was it or is it the case in McDonald's,
40 Norway, in the restaurant where you worked, that you get
41 paid or you got paid a different rate for different times
42 of the day?
43 A. The only difference in the rates were for regular crew
44 members and closers, those who clean the restaurant during
45 the night. They received 77 kroners per hour. It says in
46 the No. 4 letter we have here that they received 77 kroners
47 an hour, the closers that work in the night.
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49 Q. Leave closers on one side, please. If an ordinary crew
50 member worked, let us say, from 7.00 in the evening until
51 11 o'clock at night, would he get the same as or more than
52 somebody who worked from 7.00 in the morning until, let us
53 say, 2.00 in the afternoon?
54 A. He would get exactly the same.
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56 Q. Can I ask you one final thing -- this is borne of, I am
57 afraid, my ignorance of Norwegian -- I do not know if you
58 have amongst those documents there a document which I know
59 his Lordship has which is dated 26th August 1993, which
60 comes from the HRAF? My Lord, I think it may be the second
