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     1        Ms. Link's statement is in relation to that.  She also
     2        deals with incineration; and, with regard to incineration,
     3        the same problem seems to me to apply.  I have already had
     4        a bit of evidence about incineration, but at the moment
     5        I am having the greatest difficulty seeing what relevance
     6        that has to anything said in the leaflet.  She also deals
     7        with recycling and reducing waste generally.  If you wanted
     8        to call her in relation to those matters alone, subject to
     9        anything Mr. Rampton said -- you may think you have your
    10        evidence on that, but if you wanted to call her about that,
    11        subject to anything Mr. Rampton said, I could see no
    12        objection to that, because I can see that may relate to
    13        environment/index.html">litter, which can be said to be a valid issue.
    14
    15        At the moment, in order to help get you going if you
    16        disagree with me, I am having the greatest difficulty
    17        seeing the relevance to anything in the leaflet, let alone
    18        anything which might be said to be defamatory of
    19        McDonald's, of evidence in relation to wood pulp processing
    20        or incineration.
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sit down, if you like.  I think we ought to
    25        decide today whether we are going to have any evidence on
    26        those topics.  I will just keep talking for the moment,
    27        Mr. Morris, in an attempt to help.  It is really just that
    28        part of the leaflet which appears in one column, with the
    29        box "58 acres per minute" at the top and then the text of
    30        that box, the headline "Why it is wrong for McDonald's to
    31        destroy rainforest", and then two sub-headlines, "Pet food
    32        and environment/index.html">litter" and "Colonial Invasion", and the text which
    33        appears under those headings.  Do you have the bundle of
    34        abstract of pleadings?
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I have.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I invite you just to look at that for a
    39        moment.
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  It is recycling and waste at tab 2.  Shall
    42        I say what I am going to say?
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, unless -----
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Page 2 of recycling and waste, basically, the
    47        introduction, the fundamental point, is that production and
    48        disposal of packaging is damaging to the environment.  That
    49        the first point in that section.  I note that -----
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause a moment.  You say that is the 
    52        effect of it all, do you? 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  No.  That is the first line of that section.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Oh, I see that.  I have a note of that.  If
    57        I carried on, I was going to refer you to that, but say
    58        there is nothing specific -- so that you can correct me if
    59        I am wrong -- which relates to paper making?
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