Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 62


     
     1        brought up at meetings?
     2        A.   There were other issues brought up, yes there were.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   Mr. Clare, at various places throughout your notes
     5        you have referred to matters being discussed and leaflets
     6        as radical crap and other such abusive terms, and describe
     7        people in the group and obnoxious -- you know, made
     8        obnoxious comments to do with people in the group.  Were
     9        you basically pretty antagonistic towards the people in the
    10        group and its politics?
    11        A.  No, I was not.  They were personal opinions that I made
    12        at the time, or personal comments that I made.
    13
    14   Q.   So you did feel personally antagonistic towards some of the
    15        things the group was doing and some of the people in the
    16        group?
    17        A.   No.  It was not the sort of thing that I heard
    18        everyday.
    19
    20   Q.   Well, does that make it crap or does that make somebody
    21        ugly?
    22        A.  Certain topics that were discussed, I did classify as
    23        that, yes.
    24
    25   Q.   What about describing people as ugly?
    26        A.   In hindsight, perhaps I should not have said that.
    27        It was on observation.  It was the word that came to my
    28        mind when I wrote those notes up afterwards.
    29
    30   Q.   You did not share the politics of the group, did you?
    31        A.   No.  The politics of the group were so varied, but as
    32        a rule I would probably have to say, no.
    33
    34   Q.   And you were antagonistic towards the politics of the group
    35        and the people that were involved with it, were you not?
    36        A.   No, not at all.
    37
    38   Q.   That is why you were prepared to go in and make up any old
    39        rubbish about what you might have seen and who was present
    40        on any particular days, what they were saying, because you
    41        did not really care as long as you got what your bosses
    42        were asking for you would get your wages.  So it did not
    43        really matter what you wrote down and you could do the
    44        dirty on this group of people who you did not really like,
    45        and you did not like their politics?
    46        A.   I completely disagree with what you have just said.
    47
    48   Q.   Can I just ask you about the demonstration that you went
    49        to.  What demonstration was this?
    50        A.   I recall an anti-polltax demonstration. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Where was it? 
    53        A.   If my geography serves well, I think it was
    54        Pentonville or Hollowway prison.  I cannot recall.  It was
    55        that particular prison.
    56
    57   Q.   Outside the prison, yes?
    58        A.   Yes.
    59
    60   Q.   Was it about somebody having been jailed for not having

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