Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 59


     
     1        Professor Gregory, perhaps, looks at it more from the
     2        industrial point of view, so I would give the animal a
     3        better latitude.
     4
     5   Q.   I want you to look at a document, if you will please.  You
     6        should find probably behind you an orange backed volume
     7        No. V "Rearing and Slaughter Dr. Gregory", Plaintiffs'
     8        expert references.
     9        A.  Would you remind repeating?
    10
    11   Q.   I have not said it yet.  Tab C, please, Dr. Long.
    12        A.  I have tab C, yes.
    13
    14   Q.   Which is or should be an article entitled "Humane
    15        Slaughter" by Dr. Gregory.
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   From "Outlook on Agriculture" in June 1991.
    19        A.  Yes.
    20
    21   Q.   I would ask you to turn to the page which is numbered 97
    22        which is the third page in front of you.
    23        A.  Yes.
    24
    25   Q.   It has 258 at the bottom.  If you can find the printed 97
    26        that will do?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   Q.   In the bottom of the left-hand column there is a passage
    30        headed "Stun Stick Duration", do you have it?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   Q.   Underneath the picture of a captive bolt pistol.  He has
    34        written this: "Theoretically it is not necessary to stick
    35        an animal which has been effectively stunned with a
    36        penetrating captive bolt stunner."  Do you agree or
    37        disagree with that?
    38        A.  In my opinion I think -- let me read it carefully.
    39
    40   Q.   Yes.
    41        A.  "... it is not necessary to stick an animal that has
    42        been effectively stunned".
    43
    44   Q.   That is right.  It is right to emphasise the word
    45        "effectively" I quite agree with you.  Put like that and
    46        emphasising that word and paying attention to the word
    47        "theoretically", do you agree with that statement or not?
    48        A.  I would not be satisfied with it.  I think you could be
    49        effective in stunning it, but not to prevent it from
    50        recovering from the stun. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Do you propose then that a cow or a steer or a heifer or a 
    53        special young bull that has been effectively shot with a
    54        captive bolt pistol may, nonetheless, recover consciousness
    55        before death?
    56        A.  I think it is possible.  I think that one has to regard
    57        it in human terms like a sock on the jaw; one could be out
    58        for the count but one could come back into consciousness
    59        without going into death.
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