Day 309 - 03 Dec 96 - Page 38
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2 MR. RAMPTON: All, in fact, that slight modification to
3 your Lordship's meaning does is to transport some of your
4 meaning on nutrition into the meaning on children.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: Which is a question formed by that in substance.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You say it is all there though it may be
11 spread out over various meanings which you have pleaded in
12 your Statement of Claim?
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14 MR. RAMPTON: That is right. What happens is that the pleader
15 goes through the leaflet line by line or paragraph by
16 paragraph and says, this bit means this, that bit that.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is easier to grapple with if one does
19 that.
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21 MR. RAMPTON: It is, that is all.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. On page 8 of divider 2 in volume 2 of
24 your submissions.
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26 MR. MORRIS: Is that advertising?
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, that is right. This is the one of a set
29 of queries I have marked. Let me just get pink 7. I had
30 not looked it up, but I thought it must be referring to the
31 media.
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33 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, my Lord, it surprised me. We put that into
34 our letter to the Defendants saying, 'this is one of the
35 documents which we would like you to agree', and the
36 response came back, 'No, we do not agree these'. There was
37 not even a qualification.
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39 MR. MORRIS: I do not remember that.
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41 MR. RAMPTON: I can show it to you.
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43 MR. MORRIS: Any McDonald's document-----
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The point is, the important thing is to know
46 whether it is agreed as...
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48 MR. MORRIS: Our view is that any McDonald's document is
49 automatically, we can use it for any admission against
50 interest or any information against the Plaintiffs' case,
51 and-----
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think it is an admission against
54 interest, it is a document which sets out various figures
55 of one kind or another. I do not think you can-----
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57 MR. MORRIS: We just assume, that was our position, that we made
58 clear that any -- well, Mr. Rampton now concedes our case
59 that official documents of a certain status can be arrived
60 at anyway as admissible evidence and also-----
