Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 36
1 A. I cannot recall. He may have done.
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3 MS. STEEL: You have said that he mentioned the Organic Press
4 Printers?
5 A. In that case, yes.
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7 MR. MORRIS: So, you are saying that Paul did not know the name
8 of the printers?
9 A. I am saying that, on that night, I made a note of
10 Organic Press.
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12 MS. STEEL: Why do you not admit you got it wrong, Mr. Claire?
13 A. Because that is what I made a note of and that is what
14 I am relying on.
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16 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do not believe I am objecting very
17 much, but this really is a little unfair. They are both
18 standing up and they are firing alternative questions.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. One of you must sit down and one of you
21 must ask a question. When you ask questions, do not
22 necessarily assume that the witness is mistaken. It is not
23 particularly with regard to this because you are suggesting
24 something which he may not know one way or the other
25 about.
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27 MS. STEEL: (To the witness): Perhaps you would like to look at
28 the notes of Mr. Pocklington for the 15th March, 1990?
29 A. At what page, please?
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Page 99.
32 A. Thank you.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: By the way, if at any stage in the future
35 you are going to make submissions to me referring to these
36 notes you must have the bundle page numbers. You must go
37 to the bother of finding what they are and put them on your
38 documents so you can say "Please look at page 99". It just
39 adds half as much time again when one has to look at the
40 dates and it will not take you long to do. If I could be
41 bothered to do it late one evening, you can.
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43 MS. STEEL: Perhaps you did not have to prepare for the next
44 witness, my Lord.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Maybe, but I think it took me about 12
47 minutes to do the whole bundle.
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49 MS. STEEL: Mr. Pocklington's notes ----
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We have wasted more than 12 minutes looking
52 for the pages.
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54 MS. STEEL: Mr. Pocklington's notes say: "Most of the meeting
55 was spent in description of various events at poll tax
56 meetings, in particular at the Hackney Poll Tax meeting
57 which had occurred on the 8th March, 1990. The vandalizing
58 of the McDonald's restaurant on that date was mentioned but
59 Paul Gravett and Helen steel, who has been actively
60 involved in the antipoll tax demonstrations, claimed not to
