Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 66
1 course.
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3 MR. RAMPTON: If that is all it is and your Lordship is content
4 to leave it like that, I certainly am.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: All I am saying is that the statement by you
7 that much of Dr. Long's evidence about pigs has no
8 application to D.G. Bowes & Sons is a comment.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: I know it is. All I am saying is I could, to use
11 a horrid modern expression, stand up that comment in
12 cross-examination of Dr. Long. It may not be the best use
13 of your Lordship's time.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You must take your own course.
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17 MR. MORRIS: Can I say something?
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In a moment, yes. Do you have particular
20 parts which you would like?
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22 MR. RAMPTON: I have not got the references because I have not
23 made them because it was my suspicion that Dr. Long was not
24 as familiar with Mr. Bowes' evidence as perhaps he might
25 have wished to have been. I can tell your Lordship what
26 the topics are which seem to me to be, as it were, quite
27 unlike the general evidence that Dr. Long has been giving
28 about pigs. There is the amperage. For that one needs the
29 tables which Mr. Bowes produced.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do we have a reference to those?
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33 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, my Lord. It is at the back of his statement.
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35 MS. STEEL: I have serious concerns about that.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let Mr. Rampton finish. Then I will hear
38 what you have to say.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: Volume IX tab 7, the measurements which he says
41 were done by the Meat and Livestock Commission and somebody
42 else I forget who. That is topic one. These are in no
43 particular order. There is the so-called use of
44 antibiotics which are used in a routine way at Bowes.
45 There is the use of wallows. There is the lack of
46 castration. There is the absence of dry sow stalls, the
47 absence of tethers.
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49 MS. STEEL: There is not.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just let Mr. Rampton finish first.
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53 MR. RAMPTON: There is the particular use of nose rings which
54 have a particular function in certain circumstances. There
55 is absence of goads.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you had better pause there. What do
58 you want to say?
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60 MR. MORRIS: I am not happy about this whole approach by
