Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 48


     
     1        benefit for McDonald's in doing it?
     2        A.  No, there is not, but we realised that a lot of waste
     3        can be generated in offices, especially around such
     4        machines as photocopiers.  We also realised that there was
     5        not a need to use virgin paper for the stationery in
     6        offices, that recycled paper is more than adequate, so we
     7        decided to make a change.
     8
     9   Q.   But for what reason?
    10        A.  Environmental reasons.
    11
    12   Q.   Before this case, had you advertised the fact that you were
    13        using recycled paper in your offices?
    14        A.  Before this case?
    15
    16   Q.   Yes.  I mean, it is now public knowledge, of course,
    17        because this is a public court, but had you advertised to
    18        the public that you were using recycled paper in your
    19        offices?
    20        A.  No, not to my knowledge, anyway.
    21
    22   Q.   Do your memos, or whatever they are, communications, office
    23        stationery, have on them "recycled paper"?
    24        A.  By and large they do, yes -- in business cards too.
    25
    26   Q.   Now I want to turn, if I may, briefly to some of the
    27        differences which may exist amongst the different European
    28        countries.  I only want to use a broad brush, if you do not
    29        mind.  We looked at a list just now of all the in-store
    30        sorts of paper products that are used in a McDonald's
    31        restaurant?
    32        A.  Right.
    33
    34   Q.   Are there any major differences between the practices in
    35        this country, apart from the ones we looked at this morning
    36        where one saw differences between clam shells and paper
    37        wraps, are there any significant or major differences
    38        between what you do here and what is done in other parts of
    39        Europe?
    40        A.  Not significant, no.  In a number of countries we do
    41        use paper hot cups instead of foam hot cups, but I do not
    42        see that as being significant.  They never actually changed
    43        from paper to foam because originally the whole market was
    44        on paper.
    45
    46   Q.   You may already have told us this, is the whole of Europe
    47        now sourced directly or indirectly by Perseco?
    48        A.  For packaging?
    49
    50   Q.   Yes. 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   I do not know whether it was this morning or yesterday,
    54        I rather think it was yesterday, his Lordship called to
    55        mind a distant memory of being bribed, I think it really
    56        was, to take waste paper down on his bike when he was a
    57        younger person than he is now to be recycled.  I think
    58        the idea was it was some years ago.  Do you have any
    59        impression in your mind of the rough date or period at
    60        which recycling in this country became a widely available

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