Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 62
1 A. No, Terry Carroll was in charge on the ground.
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3 Q. In October '89?
4 A. Yes, Terry Carroll was in charge on the ground.
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6 Q. But you were, overall, in charge of the purpose of that---
7 A. No.
8
9 Q. -- investigation?
10 A. But he knew nothing about the investigation.
11
12 Q. No, but you instructed Terry Carroll to take photographs,
13 did you not?
14 A. That is right.
15
16 Q. Because you were aware that it was an important thing to
17 get accurate, comprehensive identification material, which
18 is why, presumably, if you were there, you would have
19 expected to have the security monitors on?
20 A. No, I did not ask for the security cameras to be -- you
21 do not get good pictures on the security cameras. I keep
22 telling you.
23
24 Q. Why did the investigators not -- I do not mean private
25 investigator people like Mr. Carroll -- why did they not
26 video; or did they video but just lost the tapes?
27 A. They did not video.
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29 Q. We never thought of a video, we took still cameras on the
30 ground, closer.
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32 Q. You do not know what happened to the security monitor
33 tapes, or anything like that?
34 A. No, I was not using them.
35
36 Q. You did not say to anyone, 'Get rid of them they are a
37 waste of time', or anything like that?
38 A. No, I am not sure that they necessarily taped it.
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40 Q. You said you saw this security monitor on?
41 A. Yes, but that did not necessarily mean that they were
42 running tapes on it. They might just have a plate on
43 display on.
44
45 Q. You said the purpose of having security monitors and
46 cameras is, say, for example, if someone breaks in you
47 would have some means of identify; for that purpose?
48 A. They run tapes on those every night, yes.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Unless he is going to break in at four
51 o'clock on a weekday afternoon on the Finchley Road.
52 I think what the witness is saying, you do not necessarily
53 have tapes running. You have monitors which you can cast
54 an eye on, but you do not necessarily have tapes which you
55 can come back to. For better or worse, what Mr. Nicholson
56 is saying, he does not know whether tapes were running at
57 the time.
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59 MR. MORRIS: In your stores they have security monitors do they
60 not?
