Day 274 - 04 Jul 96 - Page 36


     
     1        reference to McDonald's, Dave said that the first fayre had
     2        been an anti-McDonald's day, this is about 6 years ago and
     3        every year since then they had had an annual
     4        anti-McDonald's day.  John explained that this was now
     5        changing and the fayre was to be a London Greenpeace fayre
     6        outlining all their areas of interest and their vision for
     7        the future.  He said though that the anti-McDonald's
     8        campaign would still continue."
     9
    10        Can I pause there.  The anti-McDonald's campaign was to
    11        continue, was it not, though the focus was to be softened?
    12        That is right?
    13        A.  Well, the anti-McDonald's campaign continued in the
    14        sense that local groups all round the country seemed to be
    15        continuing it.  I mean, I know that Hackney and Islington
    16        Animal Rights Campaign continued it quite a while after.
    17
    18   Q.   What about 16th October?
    19        A.  Anti-McDonald's day?  I believe yes.
    20
    21   Q.   Yes.  And John --
    22        A.  Just the one day.
    23
    24   Q.   And John was not one of the infiltrators, as Mr. Morris is
    25        pleased to call him, was he?
    26        A.  If that is the John that I know, then no, not as far as
    27        I know.
    28
    29   Q.   Dave was not either, was he?
    30        A.  No.
    31
    32   Q.   And then the sentence finishes -- well, I will read it
    33        again.
    34
    35        "He said though that the anti-McDonald's campaign would
    36        still continue as 'everyone hates McDonald's'."
    37
    38        Mr. Gravett, I think it was, or maybe one of the
    39        defendants, tried to suggest that that might mean everyone
    40        in the world, but it plainly does not, does it, it means
    41        everyone in the group?  Do you agree?
    42        A.  No.  I mean, I cannot actually remember him saying
    43        this, though from reading it now --
    44
    45   Q.   No, no, I do not expect you to remember him saying it, but
    46        it is true, is it not, everyone in the group did hate
    47        McDonald's, did they not?
    48        A.  No, it is not true that everyone hated McDonald's.  I
    49        think most people who had read the leaflet understood that
    50        some McDonald's practices were - I don't know how you
    51        describe them - but may be distasteful.  I would find them
    52        distasteful.  But it sounds like a flippant comment that
    53        John made.  I think it might have been said with a smile,
    54        but I do not think -- I do not remember him saying it.
    55
    56   Q.   You have read the leaflet recently, have you not, I expect?
    57        A.  Not recently.  I mean, I have read it many times in the
    58        past.
    59
    60   Q.   Yes.  Can I ask you to put that file away then please and

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