Day 086 - 09 Feb 95 - Page 18


     
     1   Q.   So what about changing a plug, is that something that a
     2        staff member can do?
     3        A.  My belief is that if you have been trained on the AEC,
     4        or I think there is a course that we have teach electricity
     5        at work; I believe you can change a plug if you have been
     6        on that course.
     7
     8   Q.   When did this position come into effect at McDonald's, that
     9        crew members should not change plugs?
    10        A.  I do not think a crew member has ever been able to
    11        change a plug in McDonald's.
    12
    13   Q.   Because why?
    14        A.  Because they have not been trained.
    15
    16   Q.   So it would be unsafe for an untrained person to change
    17        plugs?
    18        A.  Yes.
    19
    20   Q.   So if that happened in stores regularly, would you be
    21        concerned?
    22        A.  If an untrained person changed?
    23
    24   Q.   Yes.
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   What would you do about it if you found out that it was
    28        happening?
    29        A.  Stop it.
    30
    31   Q.   It does happen, does it not, at McDonald's, and it has
    32        happened quite regularly?
    33        A.  No, I would not say it has happened quite regularly.
    34        I have not seen a crew member changing a plug.
    35
    36   Q.   If somebody becomes a trainer, is that a responsible
    37        position at McDonald's, someone becomes a trainer of other
    38        staff?
    39        A.  You are talking about a crew member becoming a member
    40        of the training squad?
    41
    42   Q.   Yes.
    43        A.  Yes, it is a more responsible position.
    44
    45   Q.   If they go to other stores, is that a recognition of
    46        their -- if you become a part of the training squad, do you
    47        just train people in-store?
    48        A.  Not normally within your own restaurant.
    49
    50   Q.   If you go to other restaurants, is that a particularly 
    51        higher level of responsibility? 
    52        A.  Not particularly, no.  If a new restaurant owned in an 
    53        area, a training squad of stores around may go, would go
    54        along and assist the training of the new crew members
    55        there.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am having terrible difficulty hearing.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, keep your voice up.  Make sure you speak
    60        very clearly.

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