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1 simple, declarative statement that tobacco seriously
2 damages health, although it is not specific as to in what
3 way.
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5 Q. I am talking about what is on the back?
6 A. I see. The back says "Smoking causes cancer".
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8 Q. So it does; what I want to know is whether you see a
9 distinction between that statement about smoking and the
10 statement about diet which is contained in the McDonald's
11 document of 1985?
12 A. The document goes into more detail to try, perhaps, to
13 lay the ground work for the reader, saying not simply that
14 one thing leads to the other, but there is a considerable
15 amount of evidence to suggest that many of the diseases
16 which are more common in western affluent -----
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18 Q. Do you see a distinction, Dr. Barnard, between suspicion
19 and guilt?
20 A. I think I am able to understand the difference.
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22 Q. Do you see not see precisely that distinction between
23 these two forms of statement to which I have drawn your
24 attention?
25 A. Let me take a moment and make sure that I am reading
26 this properly. The sentence from the McDonald's booklet
27 seems to convey, at least on my reading, more than
28 suspicion but less than conclusive evidence.
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30 Q. Thank you. If you would not mind, if I may add an
31 autobiographical note, I would not mind having that sleeve
32 back otherwise the contents will collapse in my pocket
33 later on. In due course, but do not let us delay matters
34 at the moment. Thank you very much. (Handed) Your
35 qualifications?
36 A. Would you like me to hold this booklet?
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: No, I am so sorry. We can put it right back. We
41 shall not need it again while I am on my feet.
42 A. Thank you.
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44 Q. As I understand it, Dr. Barnard, do I mispronounce your
45 name -- should it be Barnard?
46 A. No, I say Barnard.
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48 Q. You do say Barnard. Your qualifications to give evidence
49 in this case, as I have understood it -- you correct me if
50 I am wrong -- are these: There are two of them; the first
51 is that you have a First Degree in medicine, general
52 medicine; is that right?
53 A. I received my Doctor of Medicine Degree in 1980.
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55 Q. You qualified as a medical doctor, what in this country we
56 call perhaps a general medical practitioner; is that about
57 right?
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: A doctor of medicine in this country is a
60 postgraduate degree ---
