Day 184 - 06 Nov 95 - Page 62
1 Q. Right. Going on to 43, about not aware that people were
2 afraid to come into work because they feared Ron. Do you
3 remember someone called Tanya Ronday?
4 A. Yes.
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6 Q. Did she complain about the way she had been treated by Rob,
7 being shouted at and insulted?
8 A. I remember there was a situation where she said --
9 I was not there at work -- that Rob had shouted at her on
10 the floor in front of customers, but I was not there.
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12 MR. MORRIS: Sorry, I have lost my thread.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just sit down and get your place again.
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16 MR. MORRIS: Actually, although I am taking my time, I am
17 skipping a lot of paragraphs so it is probably quicker in
18 the long run that way. (To the witness): While the Labour
19 Board hearings were on, you said that in paragraph 51 the
20 atmosphere was somewhat calmer than when Cam and Rob first
21 took over. This is based on something that Sarah Inglis
22 has said in her statement. The change was not nearly as
23 dramatic as suggested by Sarah. In what way had the
24 atmosphere improved compared to the time when Cam and Rob
25 first took over to the atmosphere when the hearings were
26 going on?
27 A. I do not -- I did not use the word "improved", I just
28 said .....
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30 Q. No, but I was asking you in what way had they improved?
31 A. They were basically the same, just that when Cam and
32 Rob first came in they were making a lot of changes to get
33 the store running in a more professional manner. By the
34 time these hearings came through all the changes were
35 basically made. It was just, you know, if Head Office was
36 going to be changing anything.
37
38 Q. What was the difference between when the hearings were on
39 and previous to when the hearings started before the unions
40 -----
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Was there any difference, first of all?
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44 MR. MORRIS: Sorry?
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Was there a difference, first of all?
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48 MR. MORRIS: Was there a difference between how the atmosphere
49 was after it became aware to the management that there was
50 a union attempt and there were Labour Board hearings on,
51 was it different?
52 A. I am responding to Sarah's statement here, so I cannot
53 really exactly -- I would have to look at her statement and
54 I do not know where that is.
55
56 Q. Do you remember -----
57 A. Like, as far as I know, it would -- it was harder first
58 when Cam and Rob came in, and I am not even sure if that is
59 the word I should be using, but that is because there were
60 a lot of changes being made. After all the changes were
