Day 174 - 17 Oct 95 - Page 45
1 cross-examined, it might become clear that these two people
2 have been sacked for union activity. What do you say about
3 that?
4 A. No, I cannot say "yes", because I do not know when
5 Mr. Trimble left our Company. I have indicated that a
6 number of times. If he was in our employment and was
7 available, he would have been asked by the Company to
8 appear at the hearing. But, you know, I think your
9 question was did we purposely not have him available; and
10 I have indicated a number of times that he was no longer in
11 my employment, but when he left I cannot say.
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13 MS. STEEL: I have already asked if you did not make any
14 attempts to try and get him to come back, whether or not he
15 was still in your employment.
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17 There is just one other matter I wanted to ask about, which
18 is the letter on page 1153 from Dave Trimble. Have you got
19 that there?
20 A. Yes.
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22 Q. It is addressed to "Dear Tom". Who would that be?
23 A. That would have been the supervisor, operation
24 supervisor.
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26 Q. Operation supervisor. What was his full name?
27 A. Sorry -- Tom Cullen.
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29 Q. Cullen? The same one that was involved in the 1979
30 dispute? I think there was a Thomas Cullen -----
31 A. Well, he was working for me in 1979, yes.
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33 Q. I do not -- yes, sorry, I should not have put it like
34 that. The same Thomas Cullen that signed the same petition
35 as Mr. Trimble?
36 A. Yes.
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38 Q. As your supervisor had been informed of this matter, would
39 he not have brought it to your attention?
40 A. He should have, but he did not.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When was it that the supervisor knew, do you
43 know?
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45 MS. STEEL: The letter is dated 29th June, 1985.
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47 THE WITNESS: I do not know.
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49 MS. STEEL: It actually says "today", that Connor McCann -----
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which page are you looking at?
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53 MS. STEEL: 1153.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have not so far -- and I have made a note
56 to that effect -- suggested that Mr. Mehigan had any part
57 in the decision to dismiss. So, unless you do put that,
58 I assume you are not making that allegation. If you are
59 making that allegation, you should put it. I have not made
60 any decision about it, but it may be one thing for a
