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     1        glossing over the differences between plant A and plant B
              because up to this point it does not seem to be greatly
     2         -----
 
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You do not have to highlight things which
              you have already got in the evidence which you want to
     4        rely on, because you can underline those to me at the end.
 
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I am just trying to go through your third
              paragraph on page 11.  It starts off:  "The slaughterman"?
     6        A.  Yes.
 
     7   Q.   On the sentence says:  "The outcome of the stunning
              procedure was examined in 27 cows", is this after or
     8        before pithing?
              A.  Both.
     9
         Q.   In plant B?
    10        A.  Both.
 
    11   Q.   You examined all 27 cows before pithing and then
              afterwards?
    12        A.  Yes, I was positioned in one spot alongside the exit
              of the stunning pen and I could see the animal, the
    13        carcasses, in both situations.
 
    14   Q.   So, if you had examined them just after pithing only,
              would that have influenced the analysis of the stunning
    15        procedure?
              A.  Do you mean the outcome?
    16
         Q.   The outcome?
    17        A.  After pithing, well, during pithing, as I explained
              the other day, the brain and the spinal chord are
    18        macerated by the pithing cane which in itself is going to
              change the behaviour of the carcass.  During pithing there
    19        is kicking activity, but thereafter that activity will
              have stopped altogether.  So it would influence the
    20        outcome in terms of the interpretation I think you are
              interested in.
    21
         Q.   Right.  So, for example, when you said "in the remaining
    22        case", this was the one out of 27 which may have been the
              inperfect stun?
    23        A.  Yes.
 
    24   Q.   It was shot twice.  You only examined that after the
              pithing, yes, or you did not see that?
    25        A.  I examined the animal after the second shot before
              pithing. 
    26 
         Q.   The prevalence of imperfect stunning, in your opinion, was 
    27        3.7 per cent?
              A.  Yes.
    28
         Q.   You compared this with a survey, your survey of 27 beef
    29        abattoirs in 1987, which we have looked at before, which
              said the average was 6.6 per cent?
    30        A.  Yes.
 

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