Day 094 - 01 Mar 95 - Page 73
1 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Just one question I was going to
2 ask you about the high pressure sprays used in the
3 slaughter plants?
4 A. Yes.
5
6 Q. They are standard practice in the industry, yes?
7 A. There are quite a few people that are doing it. To say
8 it is a standard practice, I cannot say.
9
10 Q. In your suppliers anyway, so far as you have seen?
11 A. We used a lot of suppliers.
12
13 Q. From the ones that you have seen, they use?
14 A. No, not all of them.
15
16 Q. Some of them?
17 A. Yes, some of them. In fact, we are pushing for that.
18 It is one of a package of the recommendations that we have
19 been discussing with the US DA, so that there is
20 regulations on the minimum practices to ensure food safety.
21 That is one of those. There is not everybody that is
22 doing it.
23
24 Q. But is there not a problem with the mist created because of
25 the spray?
26 A. If it is -- if it is the mist, it could be a problem,
27 it is not during when the animal is moving. If there is a
28 problem, it is when the spray hits the floor. The spray
29 then produces a fog that may contain bacteria. There is
30 another process that we are pushing for which is high
31 pressure water with some acids and antimicrobials. That is
32 totally separate and it is a confined area. That will not
33 be a problem.
34
35 Q. So when the high pressure spray is sprayed upon the animal,
36 the carcass, it will create a mist, though?
37 A. Very small. When we say "the high pressure" it is
38 really not that high, that high of pressure; it is only the
39 pressure required for the hose, the distance from the water
40 will go from the hose to the carcass. I cannot estimate
41 how many pounds per square inch of pressure, but it will
42 not cause a big -- I will not be concerned with that to
43 degrees. It is not part of the critical control points
44 that we identified for a plant.
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46 MR. MORRIS: I think we are done. I may have a couple of
47 questions tomorrow about hygiene. It is probably a good
48 time to stop.
49
50 MS. STEEL: Can I make an enquiry? I do not know whether
51 Dr. Gomez Gonzalez has a list of the papers that he has had
52 published?
53
54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Have you ever had to do a CV which includes
55 lists of publications you have contributed to?
56 A. No, quite frankly, there is a lot of times where I have
57 published, where I have not recommended where it is at,
58 especially in the trade magazines. I did it, the last
59 time, probably, it was a long time ago, six years or so.
60 No, I do not have a list.
