Day 252 - 20 May 96 - Page 39
1 MS. STEEL: It probably is.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What do they mean by "manufactured meat
4 dishes"?
5 A. Anything other than carcass meat.
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7 Q. Give me an example of a manufactured meat dish which might
8 incorporate less meat and more vegetables, pulses or
9 potatoes, because that is what it appears to say?
10 A. I do not know if the proposal is it should be
11 incorporated in the same dish or not. I think the proposal
12 is that we do not eat enough pulses, serials, potatoes and
13 vegetables and that we should simply eat more of these and
14 less of carcass meat. Manufactured meat would be something
15 like a meat pattie, a sausage or a meat pie.
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17 MS. STEEL: We were on sodium. On page 136 ----
18 A. On that last question, my Lord, I suspect that if the
19 Members of the Committee who made this proposal were asked
20 to produce an example of such a dish, they would find it
21 very difficult to do so. I mean, this is something that
22 the food industry would have to grapple with.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. It may be they are suggesting pork
25 pies with less pork and some vegetables in instead.
26 A. Yes.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Very well.
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30 MS. STEEL: At paragraph 6.6 is Dietary Sodium and Potassium.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which page is that?
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34 MS. STEEL: It is page 136. The first paragraph, the first
35 couple of sentences is basically what you have said in your
36 statement, I think.
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38 Then in 6.6.2:
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40 "Numerous studies have shown that people with blood
41 pressure in the range labelled mild to moderate
42 hypertension, restriction of common salt in the diet
43 reduced blood pressure, in some cases removing the need for
44 anti-hypertensive medication." Would you with that?
45 A. Yes. That seems to work particularly with older
46 people who are likely to be on hypertensive medication.
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48 Q. In 6.6.3 this is talking about the Insalt Study in 1988, I
49 think. Five lines up from the bottom, it says:
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51 "An age related rise in blood pressure is usually in
52 populations such as the UK with moderately high sodium
53 intakes, but virtually absent amongst those with very low
54 sodium diets."
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56 You would with that, would you?
57 A. Yes as long as one appreciates the sort of populations
58 sort or the diet that people would be consuming and the
59 sort of lifestyle that people would have who have extremely
60 low sodium diets.
