Day 151 - 10 Jul 95 - Page 21
1 related pay reviews, sorry, how many people received -----
2 A. What proportion, yes.
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4 Q. Yes. You have said about 10 per cent did not result in a
5 pay increase, about 50 per cent were the 5 pence category,
6 and 30 per cent for 10 pence and 10 per cent for 5 pence.
7 Where did you get those figures from?
8 A. Those were my recollections of, again, how many I would
9 probably anticipate on a payroll, but they are not direct
10 figures; they are just purely sort of recollection. I
11 would have thought that some of my people would not have
12 got pay rises and, equally, some of those would have got 15
13 pence pay rises.
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15 Q. I think I read it out as 15, anyway.
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17 MR. ATKINSON: I think you said 5.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It does not matter. We can see that you have
20 said 10 per cent no increase; then you said most of the
21 increases, but then you said about half of them, were the 5
22 pence category.
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24 MISS STEEL: If I did read it out as 5 pence, the 10 per cent
25 figure, I did mean to read it out as 15.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is meant to be 15, not 5.
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29 MS. STEEL: The second -- it is the 10 per cent that is
30 15 pence?
31 A. Yes, right. "15 pence increases were by no means rare,
32 about 30 and 10 per cent respectively." So 10 per cent
33 refers to the 15, certainly.
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35 Q. You did not get these by analysing any of the paperwork in
36 the stores?
37 A. Before I made my statement?
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39 Q. Yes.
40 A. Absolutely not, no.
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42 Q. Or generally?
43 A. This is -----
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45 Q. Is that ever done?
46 A. Sorry?
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48 Q. Is that ever done, a check on how many people are getting
49 what pay increases?
50 A. I do not think I would look for it in that sort of
51 respect, in terms of -----
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can a store manager or anyone else that you
54 know of get ready access to information about what
55 percentage are getting nothing, 5 pence, 10 pence or
56 15 pence in any given store or, indeed, generally
57 throughout the system?
58 A. Not in terms of hitting a button and a figure of
59 percentages would come out. I believe the restaurants have
60 got something that is called a raise chart, and that is a
