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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
     3        A.  We have been arguing and talking a lot about that
     4        survey, the city suburban starting wage rates; and I have
     5        been saying, my Lord, that these are extracts from the
     6        TPF & C.  What I am saying is that they did a complete
     7        report with all the detailed that we have been arguing
     8        over.  This is their report, part of their report.  These
     9        are not McDonald's words; these are their reports.
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    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is how, I think, Mr. Rampton understood
    12        you.  But, for instance, if we see how it starts -- I have
    13        lost the reference now.  Can someone remind me what it is?
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    15   MR. MORRIS:  94.
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    17   THE WITNESS:   Yes, 94.
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    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It starts off: "Recently McDonald's
    20        commissioned Towers Perrin Foster & Crosby (TPF & C), an
    21        international organisation of management consultants
    22        specialising in compensation related to Human Resource
    23        Consulting Services", and so it goes on.
    24        A.  Yes, my Lord.
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    26   Q.   I had assumed that that was written by some McDonald's, and
    27        that what -----
    28        A.  My Lord -----
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    30   Q.   Let me just finish, so that you understand what I thought
    31        you were saying, and you can correct me.  But when, for
    32        instance, we got to McDonald's survey methodology, what was
    33        set out there was taken word by word, as it were, from a
    34        part of the full report.  Am I misunderstanding your
    35        evidence?
    36        A.  I am not being very clear, my Lord.
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    38   Q.   Start again.
    39        A.  OK.  Everything written -- the best way for me to
    40        describe it is, everything on 1472 through 1478 was written
    41        by TPF & C and Professor Perrin.  This came out of an
    42        overall report that they did.  They had detailed backup and
    43        they had their executive summary to lead off the entire
    44        thing that they gave us.  What we took and distributed was
    45        this executive summary, without all detailed backup.  My
    46        point -- and I hope I am making it clear -- is that this is
    47        all of theirs; this is not McDonald's writing.  This is TPF
    48        & C.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  But this ----- 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just let him finish first. 
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    54   THE WITNESS:   This is TPF & C, and this is the professor, not
    55        McDonald's writing.
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    57   MS. STEEL:  But these pages were actually compiled or put
    58        together by McDonald's?
    59        A.  No.  That is my point.  That is where I think the
    60        confusion is.  We took it out of the whole report, but

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