Day 182 - 02 Nov 95 - Page 38


     
     1        safety committees or safety reps, or anything like that?
     2        A.  Oh, yes.  We have safety representatives; they actually
     3        have the power to close down a restaurant if they deem it
     4        necessary, which would be in a case where it would be
     5        obviously dangerous to the employees to go on working.  But
     6        that is something the law provides for and which could very
     7        well have been in operation without a union; but it never
     8        has; there has never been any safety representatives that
     9        have been doing anything while there has not been a union
    10        at McDonald's.
    11
    12   Q.   Just one final question:  in Theo Holm's second
    13        supplementary statement in paragraph 10 and over the page
    14        on page 4, he said that he, Theo Holm: "....informed the
    15        crew it was my view that McDonald's ought to be able to
    16        take care of them so tht they were happy and content in
    17        their working environment."
    18
    19        Are there things that made you unhappy and discontent in
    20        your working environment?
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not bother to ask that.  I can draw my own
    23        conclusions about things like that.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  I have no further questions.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I have no cross-examination at this
    28        moment.  By saying that, I do not mean to suggest that
    29        I invite your Lordship to say to Mr. Jenssen that he has to
    30        come back.  There are two reasons why I do not have any
    31        cross-examination.  The first is that it later emerged,
    32        after some very considerable time, that everything
    33        Mr. Jenssen had to say about the night closer issue was
    34        hearsay; so that was a complete waste of time -- because he
    35        said he did not hear about it until after he got one of the
    36        leaflets on the picket line, which I think was some time in
    37        December.  The second reason is that the vast bulk of the
    38        rest of his evidence was stuff of which I had no notice at
    39        all.  I am going to have to send a transcript to Norway.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not accept that, necessarily.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  No.  All the things about rates of pay, about the
    44        lack of ventilation, all of that about the working
    45        conditions -----
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is Mr. Holm available on the phone at this
    48        moment?
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  I have no idea, my Lord. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, I will come back at two, and I expect 
    53        you to tell me.
    54
    55                        (Luncheon Adjournment)
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (To the witness): Do sit down for a moment
    58        will you, please?
    59
    60        What is the position with regards to cross-examination or

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