Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 54


     
     1        A.  Yes, it can be done.
     2
     3   Q.   Then other companies wait until the calves are a bit older
     4        and then use an electronic dehorner with a cupped
     5        attachment that quarterizes the horn tissue?
     6        A.  Yes, that could be done.
     7
     8   Q.   With older steers sometimes saws are used to cut off the
     9        horns and the roots without anaesthetic?
    10        A.  I did not hear you the last time?
    11
    12   Q.   With older steers saws are also used to cut off the horns
    13        and the roots?
    14        A.  Saws?
    15
    16   Q.   Saws.
    17        A.  No.  I have never seen that.
    18
    19   Q.   But it is possible it happens?
    20        A.  Of course, if you find a saw you can do it.
    21
    22   Q.   When cattle are on feed lots they can endure extreme
    23        weather conditions from blizzards and draughts, can they
    24        not?
    25        A.  Yes, they can.
    26
    27   Q.   Also when they are out on the open range?
    28        A.  That is correct.
    29
    30   Q.   Is it right that many animals suffer and die from freezing
    31        bursts, starvation, untreated disease, predation and
    32        poisoning by toxic plants?
    33        A.  Can you go one by one?
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you had better because there may be
    36        different answers ----
    37
    38   MS. STEEL:  To each one.  What about from freezing then?
    39        A.  It is not from freezing itself.  Yes, if you put them
    40        in he North or South Pole they will probably die.
    41
    42   Q.   No.  In the United States?
    43        A.  In the United States they do not.  I have not seen
    44        animals that die from freezing itself.  They might die from
    45        the pneumonia or some other diseases, but they do not
    46        freeze to death.
    47
    48   Q.   What about thirst and starvation?
    49        A.  Highly unlikely unless there is a severe -- we are
    50        talking of feed lots, right? 
    51 
    52   Q.   On the open range. 
    53        A.  On the open range, yes.
    54
    55   Q.   That can happen?
    56        A.  If they do not find food, obviously.  If they do not
    57        find water, obviously they can die.
    58
    59   Q.   What about untreated disease?
    60        A.  Of course, if it is untreated they can die.

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