Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 62


     
     1        whatever because, knowing what the criteria are, whoever
     2        checks it through for McDonald's should be able to see
     3        where you are alleging something has gone wrong.  If you
     4        hand a copy of that over to Mrs. Brinley-Codd, you are in
     5        that way giving some notice of what your allegation is with
     6        regard to it.
     7
     8   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it would help me if I made a note of what
     9        Mr. Morris first said, and I have been doing -- this is new
    10        to me of course -- and I have been doing the exercise now,
    11        and what I have been doing does not even begin to match up
    12        with what he has said.  It may be he has been using
    13        different criteria from what I have been using.  There are
    14        three possibilities, according to page 169.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  There is the six hour question, so that perhaps
    19        prompts a code (A), (B), (C) and (D).  Beside the cross, I
    20        would invite Mr. Morris to write, if it be his case, (A),
    21        (B) (C) and/or (D), when he has done the exercise.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is the (D)?
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  The (D) would be -- it is the six hour one.
    26        Sorry, that is (C).  It is only (C); it is three, it is
    27        (A), (B) and (C).
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me just look again.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  I think it is three.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (A) is the three-quarters of an hour for
    34        dinner between 11.30 and 2.30.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  I did not check those at all.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (B) is ditto, but half an hour for tea.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  I did not check those either.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  And (C) is six hours within 20 minutes,
    43        somewhere.
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  What I checked is the columns that the auditor was
    46        checking, which was any examples of no break, any examples
    47        of someone working six hours without a break, anyone
    48        working a shift over four hours but they did not get
    49        45 minutes break (insufficient break, i.e., according to
    50        McDonald's rules), and anyone who did not get two breaks in 
    51        a period of more than 10 hours, which is in the Crew 
    52        Handbook, that they should get 45 minutes and 20 minutes; 
    53        that is their entitlement.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  That is my letter (D).
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest, it would be helpful if --
    58        obviously put a mark against the line you are looking at,
    59        the name you are looking at, and then put some clear code,
    60        be it (A), (B), (C), or "no (B)", or "over six" or "insuff

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