Day 097 - 06 Mar 95 - Page 43


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It would but it takes a long time and
     3        sometimes the witness wonders what you are talking about
     4        and you take time to get there.
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     6   MS. STEEL:  Or:  "Are there types of meat that McKeys will not
     7        accept?"
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, there you are.  I cannot see anything
    10        offensive in that particular question.  I doubt it is a
    11        leading question and I cannot see anything offensive in it.
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    13   MR. RAMPTON:  I will ask another one.
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    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  In so far as the question suggests the answer
    16        and merely seeks agreement, then I accept it is a leading
    17        question and, if you object to it in a certain area,
    18        Mr. Rampton will not ask it.
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    20   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  Do you supply skirts or diaphragm
    21        in the meat which you send to McKeys?
    22        A.  No, I am not aware -- I do not think so, no.
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    24   Q.   If I am a person with some experience working in your
    25        slaughterhouse, how do I tell by sight the difference
    26        between, for example, a forequarter from a middle aged or
    27        young cow and a forequarter from what we might call a wet
    28        screw cow of nine, 10 or 11 years of age?
    29        A.  Generally speaking, the meat from the older cow would
    30        be as its description wet.  The fat would be a ------
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    32   Q.   Sort of slimey meat?
    33        A.  That is right, yes
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    35   Q.   Is it shiney to the naked eye?
    36        A.  Yes, it is not the hard meat you are familiar with if
    37        you looked at the meat.
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    39   Q.   Is that something which is difficult for the experienced
    40        eye to detect?
    41        A.  I would not have thought so, no.
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    43   Q.   You take the animals -- perhaps I should start in a
    44        different way:  How does Midland Meat obtain its animals,
    45        where from?
    46        A.  Either direct from farms, producers or from markets.
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    48   Q.   Or from markets?
    49        A.  Yes.
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    51   Q.   Take the farms first, who delivers the animals to your 
    52        plant? 
    53        A.  It depends.  Sometimes they come on our own
    54        transportation -- we do have a fleet of lorries -- or the
    55        they producer themselves or a contractor will bring them
    56        in.
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    58   Q.   Does that also apply to markets or not?
    59        A.  I think generally from markets we would send our own
    60        vehicles to collect them from markets.

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