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1 ever necessary between counsel and the same has to apply
2 between counsel and litigants in person.
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4 MR. RAMPTON: Of course I accept that that which is
5 provocative -----
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Obviously in the fray, as it were, of
8 litigation, things are said from time to time.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: Not only that, my Lord. It is sometimes necessary
11 to say things rather than often necessary to say things
12 which may be provocative but which nevertheless it is
13 necessary to say.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, we have been in this courtroom a long
16 time together, we are going to be here for many months
17 more, and anything which those conducting the case, either
18 counsel or the Defendants themselves, can do to keep the
19 temperature at a steady level showing some mutual respect
20 and courtesy is to be welcomed by me.
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22 MR. RAMPTON: I fully understand that. I cannot guarantee that
23 there will not be times when, under provocation from
24 myself, I do not say something which the Defendants may
25 regard as provocative, but I will do my best to keep my
26 patience. There is a lot I am afraid -----
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am sure one gets the message. It does not
29 concern you at all, Mr. Bowes.
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31 MR. RAMPTON: There is a lot necessarily in a case of this kind
32 which provokes intervention from me which would not be
33 necessary if the Defendants were legally represented.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have made my point.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I understand, of course I do.
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39 Mr. Bowes, can you turn to the coloured brochure, please,
40 as there is something I forgot to ask you about before the
41 adjournment, and look at the page with the people in green
42 suits?
43 A. Yes, sir.
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45 Q. Below the people in green suits, there are some people
46 looking as though they are sitting in booths and it is said
47 that they are taste panel adjacent to the test kitchen
48 where quality and flavour are monitored. What exactly are
49 they doing?
50 A. We have two rules that are used in our taste panel
51 area.
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53 Q. Can you bellow at me please?
54 A. We have two rules that we have in our taste panel area
55 which is in our laboratories: One is what we call
56 organoleptic testing of meat.
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58 Q. What is that?
59 A. One has to visually inspect it to see it is acceptable
60 to the consumer. Obviously, one has the smell -- and there
