Day 253 - 21 May 96 - Page 10


     
     1        influence on certain diseases but the major change,
     2        certainly in developing countries, and in our own country,
     3        is an ever increasing total in food intake and that is a
     4        dietary pattern that I would certainly like to see changed.
     5
     6   Q.   Only one other point from part of this document.  If you
     7        can go to page 4.
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that 4 in brackets or?
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  It is a real 4.  I do not know which one is Roman;
    12        I thought the triple III was.  This is Arabic 4.
    13
    14        If we look at the left-hand column, the paragraph just
    15        under the middle of the left-hand column starting "as the
    16        total fat content".  Can you see that?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   "As the total fat content in a population's diet goes up so
    20        does the number of persons developing obesity, with all its
    21        complications.  Studies have not yet found any difference
    22        between a capacity of saturated and unsaturated fatty acids
    23        to promote obesity.  It is, therefore, the total amount of
    24        fat that needs to be restricted in the interests of
    25        preventing obesity".
    26
    27        Do you accept that?
    28        A.  Yes.  One is talking about affluence, and a very simple
    29        index of affluence is total fat consumption, so countries
    30        that have a high fat consumption tend to be very affluent.
    31        One is not looking at a situation world wide. Even within
    32        Europe, you can point your finger at the most affluent
    33        country which is the one with the highest fat intake.
    34
    35   Q.   Thank you.
    36        A.  This is, as you say, associated, we believe, with
    37        increasing instance of obesity.
    38
    39   Q.   Is it possible to give your document to the judge?  Do you
    40        want to have a look, my Lord?
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I would like to read it.  (Handed).
    43        Thank you.
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  Just going back to the French paradox, where they
    46        have something like 50 per cent levels of cardio-vascular
    47        disease, is that correct, compared to, say, the UK, and yet
    48        they consume -- what was the paradox, I thought you said
    49        something ----
    50        A.  I did not know it was as low as that.  It is 
    51        substantially lower, yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   But the paradox is that some...  Maybe if it is in the
    54        pamphlet, please refer to it.
    55
    56   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  I think Mr. Rampton said "a quarter of the level"
    59        and you said "50 per cent".
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