Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 71


     
     1        A.  They will have some problems that will increase, yes,
     2        but you have to remember that the breeding stock where
     3        those eggs come from, that will develop the chicks, go
     4        through, they get to live more than a year.  Now they do
     5        have some, they will have some problems, yes.
     6
     7   Q.   Would McDonald's be able to make a decision that it wanted
     8        Tysons to keep the birds until a year-old in the broiler
     9        sheds, probably you have to have less density, or would it
    10        just be impossible for that particular breed of bird to
    11        live?
    12        A.  No, I do not want to speculate upon things that ----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not sure, quite candidly, whether it is
    15        useful.  The practice which is criticised, you say
    16        justifiably, in the leaflet is a practice which does not
    17        allow broilers, save for breeding stock which is not what
    18        the leaflet is aiming at, living beyond six or seven weeks
    19        anyway.  So, quite apart from any comment you have got in
    20        relation to killing them off at that stage, you have to
    21        look at how they fair and in what conditions until that
    22        age.
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  I think we are nearly at the end.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sit down, take a pause and get to the end of
    27        a section and we will break off then.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  There is one thing I wanted to get clarified.  When
    30        you said that two-and-a-half pounds of chicken flesh would
    31        come off a broiler chicken, something like that.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Deboned meat.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  Deboned, does that all go to McDonald's or does
    36        some of that go -----
    37        A.  No, we only used the breast and the thigh meat.  What
    38        is called the "drum stick", the leg, goes to -- we sell it
    39        normally to Japan with some of the other products, but for
    40        McDonald's US we only use the thigh.  The white meat which
    41        is the breast sometimes we use the wings depending on the
    42        promotions.  It is not a year round product.  The drum
    43        sticks we sell them.
    44
    45   Q.   So of that two-and-a-half pounds, say, of deboned chicken
    46        flesh, how much of that would McDonald's actually use,
    47        would it be a pound, one-and-a-half pounds?
    48        A.  I am not sure because those changed throughout the
    49        year, depending on promotions, depending on new products,
    50        depending on export opportunities, so it is ------ 
    51 
    52   Q.   Give us some rough figure because we need to have a rough 
    53        figure to calculate?
    54        A.  I cannot do it here on the stand.  I need to go figure
    55        out, work out the numbers.
    56
    57   Q.   If you take the drumsticks, that is both sides of the
    58        chicken's legs, is it not?
    59        A.  Out of the drumstick there is 110, 135 grammes.
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