Day 112 - 31 Mar 95 - Page 40


     
     1        beginning, the first week I worked there every day and then
     2        he dropped in the second week at least twice or three times
     3        and he said he would subsequently visit me at least once a
     4        week.
     5
     6   Q.   So he knew about all the concerns and documents?
     7        A.  Yes, he knew about the problems and he did not see it
     8        necessary to send documents to the Council.
     9
    10   Q.   He saw them himself?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   The council.  If those documents that you saw of the
    14        temperatures in the boning hall, the half hourly documents
    15        that Mr. Rampton alleged were taken at the time, were true,
    16        would you still stand by your own recordings that you made
    17        of the boning hall as accurate?
    18        A.  Yes, of course I would stand by my recordings.
    19
    20   Q.   The meat that ended up in the octabins that went through
    21        the boning hall, is there any reason why the meat sent for
    22        those octabins would have been somehow specially treated or
    23        at different temperatures from what you were measuring when
    24        it was going through the boning hall?
    25        A.  No, I do not know of any reason why it would be.
    26
    27   Q.   What I am asking is, the meat that you had concerns about
    28        of its high temperatures would or would not some of that
    29        have been inevitably destined for the octabins?
    30        A.  I cannot really comment on that.  I have no idea where
    31        the meat, which bits of the meat through the abattoir went
    32        to McKey's and which did not.  There was no way I could
    33        have kept ----
    34
    35   Q.   What I am saying is if you measuring the meat and you have
    36        concerns about the temperature of the meat in the boning
    37        hall?
    38        A.  Yes.
    39
    40   Q.   Is there any reason to think that some completely different
    41        line of meat that you did not know about or that you did
    42        not monitor, would have gone to the octabins?
    43        A.  Well, there is the possibility of that.  As far as
    44        I understood the system, I did not pay too much attention
    45        to it because it was not of any hygiene and public health
    46        interest, I understand that when they boned for McKey's
    47        there were certain carcasses they did bone for McKey and
    48        during that period of time, that particular period of time
    49        in the boning hall, they would only bone for McKey and then
    50        at other times they would ----- 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As I understand it, it would not strictly be 
    53        so because McKey's only took certain cuts, did you
    54        understand?
    55        A.  All right, yes.
    56
    57   Q.   I have heard no evidence that they were separated in any
    58        particular way while they were in the boning room.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  So your concerns about the meat temperatures in the

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