Day 152 - 11 Jul 95 - Page 41
1 A. Yes, I have.
2
3 Q. On other people?
4 A. Yes.
5
6 Q. Can you turn then, please, to the third page, three pages
7 up from the pie chart and there is a section about
8 employment of young persons; do you see that?
9 A. No. Section 6?
10
11 Q. Yes, section 6.
12 A. Yes, found it.
13
14 Q. "Legal continued, employment of young persons. Under age
15 employees under leaving school age 40; employment of under
16 18 year olds knowledge and practice 100", and you score 140
17 for that. Can you tell us exactly what do those scores
18 represent? What do they mean? What is being marked by the
19 examiner?
20 A. Well, the fact that we are adhering to the regulations
21 and legislation dealing with employment of young persons.
22 So, both under age employees as in under school leaving age
23 as in you are not employing anybody under school leaving
24 age.
25
26 Q. That is right. It is not a bonus for employing a lot of
27 them?
28 A. The legislation, as I remember it, was not as strict,
29 you could not employ anybody less than 16 years old; it was
30 of school leaving age, which may be 16 and three months or
31 16 and five months dependent on the time of year and where
32 that birthday fell. As far as the employment of under 18
33 year olds as that which we spoke of a minute ago dealing
34 with females under 18 and males under 18, 12 o'clock and
35 10 o'clock.
36
37 Q. We have called this a personnel audit. Is that a fair way
38 of describing this document?
39 A. Yes, it is.
40
41 Q. Mr. Stanton came and did a personnel audit on your premises
42 and, presumably, filled in one of these forms. Would he
43 show it to you at the end of what he had done?
44 A. Yes, he would.
45
46 Q. What did he look at in order to fill in, if anything, help
47 him fill in this page, do you know?
48 A. He would look at the clock cords, he would look at
49 payroll summary, he would look at the schedule, and within
50 all those three things that would cover all the legislation
51 aspects of it.
52
53 Q. Now when we were in Colchester in 1985/86 the procedures
54 for making sure that there were not people working later
55 than they should, and so on and so forth, they were all
56 manual, were they?
57 A. That is correct, yes.
58
59 Q. There were forms and there were clock cards?
60 A. Yes.
