Day 175 - 18 Oct 95 - Page 46


     
     1        A.  I do.
     2
     3   MR. MORRIS:  I think it should be explained what the law is,
     4        that things told to a person can be evidence of a fact that
     5        they were told that, not necessarily that it was true that
     6        they were told.
     7
     8   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Whittle, tell me again:  What information do
     9        you say was given by a management sneak to management by
    10        crew members that resulted in those crew members being
    11        rewarded with favours?  First of all, if you can, tell me
    12        what the information was that you actually know was
    13        imparted in that way?
    14        A.  Well, the only sort of instances I could remember were
    15        where a discussion would have taken place between Lynn and
    16        Sue and then Sue would have come and asked a member of
    17        staff about something.  For example ----
    18
    19   Q.   Give me an example, please.
    20        A.  For example, Lynn went off to talk to Sue on one
    21        particular occasion.  Sue came back with three trainees,
    22        and asked me to explain to the trainees how I was cleaning
    23        a piece of equipment, and the reason she obviously asked
    24        Lynn to do this was because I was using a method that Sue
    25        believed to be incorrect.  So she asked me to explain how I
    26        was Ajaxing a piece of equipment.  I mentioned that I was
    27        using soapy water, which you were not supposed to do.  She
    28        asked the trainees to explain how they believed the job
    29        should be done.  They all mentioned how to do it with the
    30        omission of the use of detergent.  She then attempted to
    31        use this to ridicule me as a member of the training squad
    32        who should know how to use the job, do the job.
    33
    34   Q.   I see.  So on that occasion your inference is that Lynn had
    35        told Sue that you were using the incorrect method and that
    36        Sue had sent back this party to humiliate you and that, in
    37        consequence of that, Lynn was promoted to lobby hostess; is
    38        that the size of it?
    39        A.  That is not the size of it.  That is an example of the
    40        sort of thing that ----
    41
    42   Q.   Give me some more that you actually know about; not that
    43        you heard about or would like ----
    44        A.  I do actually know about that one.  I have given you an
    45        example of one that I actually knew about.
    46
    47   Q.   No, I would like you to give me any and all other examples
    48        that you actually know about that you witnessed or
    49        experienced yourself?
    50        A.  Bearing in mind that these activities took place 
    51        nine/ten years ago, I cannot remember every individual 
    52        opportunity of someone going and speaking to the Manager 
    53        and telling them they had seen someone do this or that.
    54        I just have a memory of that taking place, and being the
    55        norm and also the atmosphere in the workplace being like
    56        that; people being encouraged to do that, and that was the
    57        norm and it was not just one individual with the Manager;
    58        that was the way the store operated.
    59
    60   Q.   Did you have a Manager come to you and say, "Ian, if you

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