Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 44
1 even less than that, and they are meant to be minus 20.
2 They changed the seals on these freezers occasionally, to
3 try and improve it, but it never improved; they were always
4 below what they should have been, or above what they should
5 have been. The page after -----
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Hold on. What is the page after?
8 A. It is the more detailed things that -----
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10 Q. Mr. Morris has not got to that.
11 A. Right, OK.
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13 MR. MORRIS: Shall we move on to that one? If there is anything
14 in this at all -- I will read out what I have written, and
15 if there is anything at all which is inaccurate or needs
16 clarifying in your own words, please stop me.
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18 "Further details to be referred to by Michael Logan" -- and
19 this was submitted as notes from me, based on an interview
20 with you, and the notes were submitted date
21 20th January 1996.
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23 "1. Sean Richards, in or around 1992, altered people's
24 hours worked."
25 A. Sorry, can I stop you already? Knowing that I started
26 in April 1989, I assume that must be 1991, in or around
27 1991, not 1992. But everything else is right.
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29 Q. OK. "...in or around 1991, altered people's hours worked
30 by amending the adjustment report on a night shift/close
31 using the Husky."
32 A. I am pretty sure at that time Mr. Richards was a Floor
33 Manager, like I became, a shift running Floor Manager, and
34 I think he was using the Store Manager's code. It was when
35 Alan Munroe ran the store, and I think he was using
36 Alan Munroe's code, because he did not have his own code to
37 close down the system, so he used Alan's. It is like I
38 used to run shifts and I used to have to use other
39 Managers' codes to close the system down, because I did not
40 have my own. So I think that is why, you know, he did it,
41 I think, knowing that there was no comeback.
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43 Q. He says in his statement that he was promoted to Floor
44 Manager and then to salaried Manager around August 1990.
45 A. I do not -- to my memory, he was not promoted in
46 August 1990 to salaried. I think he was still a Floor
47 Manager then. But when this occurred he was definitely
48 still a Floor Manager.
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50 Q. I will carry on reading. "People were docked hours or
51 minutes they had worked. He saw this occur on one" -- that
52 is you, sorry -- "saw this occur on one occasion with many
53 crew names chosen at random. Sean Richards laughed about
54 saving labour costs."
55 A. I mentioned that earlier, did I not?
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I had assumed that was the incident you
58 were referring to earlier.
59 A. Yes.
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