Day 174 - 17 Oct 95 - Page 55


     
     1        people for those, for two days in that week, in next week.
     2        So, as soon as I have got somebody scheduled I will, of
     3        course, inform the Plaintiffs.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have you filled in any other days because
     6        I have a mass of bare paper on this schedule at the moment?
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  We have scheduled the French witnesses for the 13th
     9        to the 15th.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I would like to do is write in some
    12        names.  You have given me Mr. Pearson now on those two
    13        dates.
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Sarah Inglis ----
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would have thought Mr. Pearson is a one day
    18        witness, is he not?
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  No, he is a two day witness.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord, he is not in my ----
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  He is one day in chief.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, how can he be one day in chief?  One only
    27        has to look at his witness statement.  He could not
    28        possibly be one day in chief.  It is just not conceivable.
    29        He is five or ten minutes in chief, under your Lordship's
    30        recent direction, and even if there are supplementaries he
    31        asks he could not be more than half an hour.  It simply is
    32        not credible and, having looked at his statement, I doubt
    33        whether I will be cross-examining him for very long
    34        either.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You see, he is only going to be more than an
    37        hour in chief, assuming I think it right that you should
    38        take him verbally in chief rather than reading his
    39        statement.  I will extend that.  He could only be more than
    40        a couple of hours in chief if he was going to add very
    41        considerably to what is in his statement.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, he has two statements.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, his two statements.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  The thing is our understanding, and no doubt
    48        Mr. Rampton will do everything he can to try and stop our
    49        witnesses speaking and giving evidence by any technique he
    50        can think of, and our understanding is he is a Leeds 
    51        person, that they have had their witnesses giving 
    52        evidence-in-chief for regularly half a day, sometimes over 
    53        a day -- I cannot remember, I think Mr. Stein spoke for
    54        over a day -- and that Mr. Pearson, we are trying to make
    55        sure that our witnesses -----
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us turn him up because, for all I know,
    58        Mr. Pearson may be an important witness, but he did not
    59        have anything like the detail that Mr. Stein had to cover
    60        of separate instances ----

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