Day 096 - 03 Mar 95 - Page 59


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, did you?  Did you ban it when the EEC
     3        provision came in?
     4        A.  Yes, we did.
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     6   Q.   Or had you done it before that?
     7        A.  That was the major decision at that time.
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     9   Q.   Can you remember when that was?
    10        A.  I need some help.  I think that was about five years
    11        ago.  I am not sure.  In that arena I know.
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    13   MR. MORRIS:  So before that time it was considered acceptable?
    14        A.  Yes, and because when one gets down to facts it is not
    15        doing the animal any harm.  It is a loss to Europe, again
    16        to America.
    17
    18   Q.   So up to that time it was a fairly standard practice in the
    19        industry?
    20        A.  I would have said, yes, it would be used.  I cannot
    21        answer for all industry, but I would have o say, yes, it
    22        was used, that was in use.
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    24   Q.   Antibiotics you are still using, though, you said in your
    25        evidence-in-chief?
    26        A.  Yes, as I described a little while ago.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You said not in feed.
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    30   MR. MORRIS:  Not in the feed?
    31        A.  Yes.
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    33   Q.   It does have a growth promoting effect, though, an
    34        antibiotic?
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    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You said you would use penicillin if there
    37        was a respiratory problem, but you have never administered
    38        it to all pigs since 1979 or 1980?
    39        A.  No, not as a blanket treatment.
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    41   MS. STEEL:   Carry on, please.
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    43                   (The video recording was shown).
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    45   MS. STEEL:  I do not know whether it might be worth fast
    46        reviewing.  I am not sure when the next passage is.  I am
    47        not sure where the next footage is, so it might be worth
    48        fast forwarding until we get to that.
    49
    50                   (The video recording continued). 
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    52   MS. STEEL:  Pause.  Is that the kind of tongs that you use at 
    53        Bowes?
    54        A.  Similar.
    55
    56   Q.   Similar?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59                   (The video recording continued).
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