Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 71


     
     1        that day.  I have heard of them going on.  They used to
     2        happen on a Saturday very occasionally, but they were, I do
     3        not know, just a very, very rare thing.
     4
     5   Q.   Right.
     6        A.  Once every, I do not know, six months, I suppose.
     7
     8   Q.   Right.
     9        A.  It was when there was, you know, a lot of people
    10        complained about their pay; you would be forced to have a
    11        payroll surgery, if you see what I mean?
    12
    13   Q.   Right.
    14        A.  If they were just, you know, an overwhelming number of
    15        people and it could be dealt with person by person.  It was
    16        also an easy way for, I think, Managers to not resolve --
    17        if someone had not been paid and they were complaining
    18        about it, it used to be an easy way of resolving the
    19        situation by saying:  "Well, there is a payroll surgery on
    20        Saturday; go and see them there", so you did not have to
    21        sort it out, but a lot of these things just never happened.
    22
    23   Q.   OK.
    24        A.  That is why I say, you know, there would be a poster up
    25        saying there was going to be one happening and it just did
    26        not happen.
    27
    28   Q.   I am just checking through to see; I am trying to cut them
    29        out.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  I have got three questions:  Do you know what
    34        excess hours are or excess hours sheets?  If you look at --
    35        just take one at random here -- page 530 in tab 9 of the
    36        second volume?
    37        A.  500 and?
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  30.
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:  30.
    42        A.  Right, OK.
    43
    44   Q.   We have a lot of sheets disclosed; they seem to be daily
    45        sheets?
    46        A.  I tried to figure this out and I could only -- no,
    47        I cannot say exactly what they mean.  I do not really know.
    48
    49   Q.   It does not matter.
    50        A.  It used to be a bad thing, but I did not know anybody 
    51        who ever really knew what it meant.  I know that if it says 
    52        Dave Watson, 18.5 or excess hours, then I assume that would 
    53        mean he has done -----
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not make an assumption because we have
    56        reason to believe it appears in either an Act of Parliament
    57        or some regulations and if it is important we can find out.
    58
    59   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  There was one other scheduling matter I wanted
    60        to bring up, it was the odd sheet that you wrote out based

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