Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 65


     
     1   Q.   And who was doing leaflets and making other organisational
     2        matters?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   Can I just ask, taking letters from organisations that you
     6        were investigating ------
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I must give a warning -- I might have given
     9        it earlier; it may be completely academic -- but I must
    10        warn you that if you are asked a question, the answer to
    11        which may, in your view, put you at any risk of being
    12        proceeded against for a criminal offence, you need not
    13        answer the question.  You may well be aware of that from
    14        your previous experience in evidence, but it is my duty to
    15        give you that warning.
    16        A.  Yes, thank you.
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:   Taking letters from an organisation that you were
    19        investigating, which you have referred to in your statement
    20        and in your notes -- sorry, in your notes rather than your
    21        statement -- that would not be an unusual occurrence for an
    22        inquiry agent, would it?
    23        A.  An inquiry agent would be required to obtain written
    24        evidence if it were possible to do so, yes.
    25
    26   Q.   So, it was the kind of thing that your agency might well
    27        have been very well aware of that you might do, Kings
    28        Investigation Agency?
    29        A.  It would be a possibility, yes.
    30
    31   Q.   You say they did not give you a specific notice, "Do not
    32        take any letters or anything else belonging to this group"?
    33        A.  No, absolutely not.
    34
    35   Q.   Right.  If we move onto the 20th September.  Have you got
    36        the notes?
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  It is 202.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  208, something like that.
    41
    42   THE WITNESS:  Yes, I have it now.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  202?
    45        A.  202.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:   Just before we move on to that, would it be an
    48        unusual thing for inquiry agents to bug telephones?
    49        A.  Yes.
    50 
    51   Q.   It would be? 
    52        A.  Yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   Were you aware of that being done in the case of
    55        London Greenpeace?
    56        A.  No.
    57
    58   Q.   Is that not your line of -- I do not know - have you ever
    59        done that kind of thing?
    60        A.  It is an illegal activity.

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