Day 117 - 27 Apr 95 - Page 33
1 from these six further witnesses and I propose to call
2 them", then you could go ahead before they were actually
3 called to call any witnesses to deal with their evidence.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, I accept that entirely.
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That would not be rebuttal.
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9 MR. RAMPTON: The only problem is that, as time goes by, the
10 margin of tolerance for such an exercise gets smaller and
11 smaller. If one was getting into July and one was still
12 not being told of the remaining however many there were
13 were coming to court -----
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are calling all what I may call your May
16 witnesses; that is not just individual incident witnesses?
17 I mean, Mr. Nicholson we have heard. Mr. Fairgrieve is
18 going to be called. There is Ms. Barnes in relation to
19 health and safety and also touches on food poisoning
20 generally. I think she deals with the young man who was
21 electrocuted. There is Mrs. Mead who speaks of her own
22 experience as a woman in McDonald's, positive recruitment
23 against demographic statistics, and has something to say
24 about young people and turnover. There is Mr. Stein who
25 deals with a number of employment topics so far as the
26 United States and some other countries are concerned. Are
27 there any other witnesses who one might say are general
28 rather than specific incident witnesses?
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30 MR. RAMPTON: No, there are not.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Purslow is an expert?
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34 MR. RAMPTON: He is the expert on health and safety.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So the Defendants have the opportunity to
37 cross-examine all your, what I might say, general principle
38 experts ---
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40 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, they do.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- before we come to any individual incident
43 witnesses?
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45 MR. RAMPTON: That is right. I think I have them right. I was
46 told yesterday, despite what was said by the Defendants to
47 your Lordship in December of 1993, Mr. Townsend, we are
48 told, is not coming unless he is subpoenaed. Mr. Peter
49 Sutcliffe is coming. Mr. Siamak Alimi is coming.
50 Mrs. Sarah Baker is coming.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I made a list of Pattison, Sutcliffe, Baker
53 Lamb, Harrison and Alimi and Civil Evidence Act Notices in
54 respect of Magee and McGill.
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56 MR. RAMPTON: I was not sure that I understood what was being
57 said about Magee and McGill; whether it was that they were
58 coming to court. We know they have Civil Evidence Act
59 Notices on them.
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