Day 192 - 27 Nov 95 - Page 52


     
     1        A.  Yes, it was quite high, I thought.
     2
     3   Q.   A number of those statements talk about not being told
     4        about the bad things about unionisation when they wanted to
     5        join a union, and they signed union cards.  They then later
     6        wrote statements for the Labour Board saying how they had
     7        not been told about the bad things, and some of them give
     8        examples of losing benefits and they name specific
     9        benefits.  Did the union tell them they would lose
    10        benefits?
    11        A.  No.  I mean, everything in a union contract is
    12        negotiated by the people for the people, right.  So, I
    13        mean, the union's objective is not for them to lose stuff
    14         -- I did not know that they could lose their benefits, if
    15        you want to call what they have benefits.
    16
    17   Q.   But if they did lose benefits, whose decision would that
    18        have been then?
    19        A.  It would have been management's decision to revoke
    20        them, sort of, as an anti-union tactic, to punish them for
    21        joining a union.
    22
    23   Q.   So, all those rumours about what they would lose if they
    24        joined a union, or what they could lose, that would have
    25        come from somebody else, not the union?
    26        A.  Not me.
    27
    28   Q.   I have not had a chance to go through Miss Wetli's
    29        statement.  It will not take long if I am given a couple of
    30        minutes.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness):  Michelle Wetli, had you known
    35        her a long time?
    36        A.  I have probably known her since I was about 15 years
    37        old.  I think I knew her from grade ten, the end of grade
    38        ten, so I would have been 15 then.
    39
    40   Q.   Up to the time of the union drive had you been friends?
    41        A.  Pardon me?
    42
    43   Q.   Were you friends with her up until the time of the union
    44        drive?
    45        A.  Yes, casual friends.
    46
    47   Q.   Right.  She said you were, words to the effect, an
    48        inveterate liar?
    49        A.  I am a what?
    50 
    51   Q.   You lied all the time? 
    52        A.  No.  Did you want me to say something about that? 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, there is no need to.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  Had she ever accused you of lying before this
    57        dispute happened?
    58        A.  No.
    59
    60   Q.   Can you explain how you came to talk to Michelle Wetli

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