Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 37


     
     1   Q.   And he said something about that man had told him that you
     2        had lied or something?
     3        A.  He was the ecologist.  I could not remember the name,
     4        and he was -----
     5
     6   Q.   So what did he say about that particular -----
     7        A.  We did not talk about him.  We talk about some of the
     8        people that were there, and that is what I was later --
     9        could not remember exactly the last name, but what I did
    10        remember was the ecologist.
    11
    12   Q.   We have a statement from the film maker, who says that that
    13        man is Sergio Quintana, who was the Marketing Sales
    14        Director of Coope Montecillos.  I do not know if he is
    15        still employed.  Do you know if he is still employed?  You
    16        have seen his face, you said?
    17        A.  OK.  Let me answer.  You made a statement and then a
    18        question.  I will answer both.  I do not know if he is an
    19        employee, and I do not, in regards to the other statements
    20        from those people, I do not believe in those people.  Those
    21        people lied.  Those people lied to government officials.
    22        Those people -----
    23
    24   Q.   These people?
    25        A.  The people that made the film.
    26
    27   Q.   We are talking about -----
    28        A.  You made a statement -- let me finish.  Those people
    29        lied to the people in that plant.  Those people lied to the
    30        people in the plant in the US.  From what I saw in the
    31        film, they edited so they would give you the wrong
    32        impression.  So I have no credibility whatsoever for those
    33        people.  I cannot make comments on those, based on that.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  We are talking about -----
    36
    37   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  It is no good Mr. Morris -- he may
    38        not like the answer.  He put what is in Peter Heller's
    39        statement to this witness.  This witness is, therefore,
    40        entitled to say what he makes of that.
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  Yes -- without interruption.  Thank you very much.
    43        So if I can go back -----
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (To the witness)  Have you finished off what
    46        you were going to say?
    47        A.  Yes, I have.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  So if that is Mr. Quintana, you do not know his
    50        name, but he is a familiar face around Coope Montecillos? 
    51        A.  Yes.  I do not remember talking about him.  I talked 
    52        about Benjamin when I mentioned about the ecologist. 
    53
    54   Q.   Did you discuss anybody else in the film such as Mr. Zamora
    55        from the Cattle Breeders' Federation?
    56        A.  No.  I do not remember.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:   So what explanation was given to you on why that
    59        person from Coope Montecillos said what he said about
    60        exporting to McDonald's?

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