Day 274 - 04 Jul 96 - Page 10
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I suggest you do is, if need be we will
3 have a 10 minute break, cut out the bits you want to
4 disclose, borrow some Pritstick, is it, stick it on a sheet
5 of paper, get it photocopied and produce a copy of it to
6 Mrs. Brinley-Codd and a copy for me.
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8 MS. STEEL: Yes, okay.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: The only thing I want to say about that is, that
11 is a classic example of what your Lordship is saying
12 because the analysis was not done by Professor Crawford.
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14 MS. STEEL: It was done by his department though.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am prepared to do a bit of working through
17 what I see as the potential problem over documents. I am
18 prepared to play some part in that, although it is not
19 really my job, and we should all take it up again on Monday
20 morning and see where we have got to.
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22 MS. STEEL: Can I just mention as well, actually, that the
23 Plaintiffs -- Mr. Fairgrieve was going to get back to us
24 about the figures on the frequency of visits and I do not
25 know whether that has been forgotten about, but we have not
26 heard anything.
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28 MR. RAMPTON: It has not been forgotten about. Mr. Fairgrieve
29 offered to try and reproduce what was he was sent by Taylor
30 Nelson, if your Lordship remembers. He asked Taylor Nelson
31 if they cannot do it without spending thousands of pounds
32 and weeks and weeks, what they can do is to produce, and I
33 believe it would be for me to volunteer whether they would
34 like to do so, they can produce an equivalent -- sorry, my
35 Lord. Mr. Fairgrieve said they were two-sheet fact sheets
36 that he made his calculations on, they can produce similar
37 two sheets for last year, as opposed to 1993-4, which was
38 the one in question.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I suggest is that those be produced as
41 quickly as possible. There may be some indication of
42 earlier years and that will just have to come out in the
43 wash.
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45 MR. RAMPTON: Again, the problem with it is I may be willing to
46 produce them, but they again -- I mean, they are in this
47 extraordinary limbo category. They have come out of a
48 computer terminus and--
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: They may be, but what I think it seems to me
51 the point may be this, that if they are produced as soon as
52 possible then there may be agreement of those figures along
53 with this, that or the other appendix of Mr. Fairgrieve to
54 avoid any difficulty which there may be about admissibility
55 of the material in the appendices.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: The other problem is, of course, that they do not
58 relate to anything dealt with in Mr. Fairgrieve's
59 appendices or his evidence; they are for the latest year,
60 which is nowhere dealt with.
