Day 272 - 02 Jul 96 - Page 66


     
     1   Q.   What is it, so far as you can see, that is sticking out of
     2        that box?
     3        A.   Well, I can see something perched on the top of the
     4        box.  I do not quite know how it has got there.  It looks
     5        like it might be attached to one of the flaps on the box.
     6
     7   Q.   Yes, that sometimes happens, does it not, they get stuck
     8        sideways in the front flap?  That is one of the
     9        anti-McDonald's fact sheets, is it not?
    10        A.   It could be.  I mean, you just cannot tell from here,
    11        but it could be.
    12
    13   Q.   There were in a box in the office in March, this is 6th
    14        March 1990, at any rate some of the anti-McDonald's fact
    15        sheets, were there not?
    16        A.   No.
    17
    18   Q.   You say --
    19        A.   No, that box there had originally been used, to the
    20        best of my knowledge, this is best of my knowledge, that
    21        box was the box that the fact sheets came in when they were
    22        printed in 1987.  By 1990 there were not any fact sheets in
    23        it.  That was the box I think we used to use to take things
    24        to stalls in.
    25
    26   Q.   And that is why it would have one of the fact sheets
    27        sticking out of it, is it not?
    28        A.   No.  I think I can explain that.  What happens is when
    29        a printer prints leaflets and they are sealed up in the
    30        box, they always stick a copy of the leaflet on top of the
    31        flaps. Now, when the box is broken open, sometimes the copy
    32        remains attached to the flap.  I think that is what it
    33        looks like there.
    34
    35   Q.   Well, I have to disagree with you, but there is no point
    36        you and me having an argument about that, Mr. Gravett.
    37        A.   No.
    38
    39   Q.   We can all use our own eyes.  While you have the
    40        photographs open, so I do nod have to come back to them,
    41        can you look backwards at number 7.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How many fact sheets would that box contain
    44        when it first arrived?
    45        A.   I would guess a couple of thousand.  I think in '87 we
    46        had, it would either have been about two or three thousand,
    47        printed.
    48
    49   MR. RAMPTON:  There was certainly enough left by October 1988
    50        for you to advertise them to members of the public at the
    51        fayre?
    52        A.   Well, they were advertised in the programme as being
    53        available on our stall.
    54
    55   Q.   Yes.  If you look at photograph number 7, we are told by
    56        the Defendants, and please confirm whether they are right
    57        about this, you see that set of wooden drawers on the
    58        left-hand side of the desk?
    59        A.   Yes.
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