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1 lesson the authors seek to draw?
2 A. Yes, clearly. But I mistakenly focused on the figure of
3 85 patients, which is in the far right-hand column of page
4 47; but in the second column on page 46 he says he started
5 with 341 patients from an allergy clinic. So, this was a
6 study not of a random cross-section of the population, but
7 of people who have reported allergies. Clearly, some
8 fraction of them appeared to have reacted adversely to
9 either BHA or BHT or both.
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11 Q. Is there any more you want to refer to there? It is three
12 minutes to one, so we will break off. Mr. Morris may have
13 more to ask you about BHA and BHT. I know not. We have
14 some compounds to go. The normal method of taking an
15 expert through papers, if it is thought important that the
16 judge should look at them, is that counsel or the party
17 concerned will refer the witness to specific parts. That
18 is not, by and large, happening in this case.
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20 I am not making that comment to get at you, Mr. Morris, but
21 what I think, again if Mr. Rampton has no suggestion, you
22 should spend part of the mid-day adjournment with Dr.
23 Millstone just looking at the remaining topics and asking
24 him which, if any, of his footnotes you need to refer to.
25 Is there any objection to that?
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27 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is an exceptional course. Mr. Morris,
30 I know you will not just talk about the case generally with
31 Dr. Millstone.
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33 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I think, in particular, I am very anxious
34 that Mr. Morris does not go back over anything
35 that Dr. Millstone has said already. Let him go forward.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Look forward in your statement and talk to
38 Mr. Morris and Ms. Steel and try and isolate so they can
39 make a list, or you can, of what, if any, articles are
40 particularly important for the remaining compounds, so that
41 we can be a bit more efficient about getting through it.
42 The position tomorrow: It really is very important that we
43 carry on tomorrow.
44 A. I believe I can come tomorrow, but if proceedings could
45 be -- if I could be dealt with before the end of tomorrow,
46 I would be very grateful -- preferably by lunch-time.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If we move on a little more quickly with the
49 help of the work I hope you will do in the mid-day
50 adjournment -----
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52 MR. RAMPTON: I make it clear now -- my mind may change as the
53 afternoon progresses -- that it is not my intention to wade
54 through a lot of papers with Dr. Millstone. My approach to
55 Dr. Millstone will be, as your Lordship will see, somewhat
56 of a different nature, but it will be one or two references
57 of Professor Walker's that I shall want Dr. Millstone to
58 look at. What that means is that were we to complete the
59 remaining three compounds this afternoon some time, I do
60 not think there is any serious possibility that we should
