Day 172 - 12 Oct 95 - Page 52


     
     1        Heading:  "Chemicals.  There were chemicals for washing
     2        up.  There was a special liquid for cleaning stainless
     3        steel.  This was also used for cleaning the diffusers for
     4        the lights.  I don't remember what it was called.
     5
     6        I can't remember the names of anyone who got skin rashes.
     7        It was reported to management but I can't remember to
     8        whom."
     9
    10        Heading:  "Calculation of revenue every hour.  I don't know
    11        anything about this."
    12
    13        Heading:  "Levels of takings.  The takings at the Marble
    14        Arch branch never fell."
    15
    16        Heading:  "New staff and falling sales.  I don't know
    17        anything about whether this happened or not."
    18
    19        Heading:  "Hostility to Trade Unions.  This matter was
    20        never brought up and I had no individual instances of
    21        hostility to Trade Unions."
    22
    23        Heading:  "Repercussions on complaints.  There was only one
    24        rap session whilst I was there.  I don't remember any
    25        repercussions of any complaints being made."
    26
    27        Heading:  "Discrimination against Trade Unionists.  I don't
    28        remember any such discrimination."
    29
    30        That completes the statement.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  The next one was Dave McGee, which is a very long
    35        one and ----
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us see what else we can ----
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  There are some smaller ones.  Connor McCann is the
    40        next one I have got down after that one, which is
    41        number 6.  It might be good to read that one out.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am -- only partly because I find a bit
    44        of variety helps keep one alert -- it may help for the
    45        future if I say what, in principle -- I will not need go
    46        through the McGee statement now so the Defendants can think
    47        about it -- what my problem with the McGee statement is it
    48        contains, I do not know, an enormous amount of hearsay;
    49        much of it I would think was unobjectionable and,
    50        therefore, admissible because it explains McGee's reasons 
    51        for doing what he said he did.  What, of course, it does 
    52        not do, that hearsay, and cannot do, is prove the truth of 
    53        what other people said to him which he says prompted him to
    54        do what he did.
    55
    56        That is quite an important distinction because there will
    57        be some passages in the McGee statement to which I take no
    58        objection whatever, though they are stuffed with hearsay,
    59        because it is quite clear that what Mr. McGee is doing is
    60        giving an account of the reasons why he did what he did,

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