Day 188 - 15 Nov 95 - Page 35
1 night" -- this is on the close -- "they sit in the lobby
2 exhausted. Perez, especially, is absolutely wasted. His
3 eyes are huge and ringed, with black shadows."
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5 That is something you witnessed yourself; yes?
6 A. Yes. I think it is probably Pervase is his actual
7 name. I was confused at that stage as to -----
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9 Q. Pervase?
10 A. I think it is Pervase, rather than Perez.
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12 Q. We will move on rapidly from this on to page 15. Rather
13 than read these out, to save time, if you just read to
14 yourself from halfway down that page, starting "the
15 Strand", and over to the next page, up to two-thirds of the
16 way down, "Friday lunchtime"; just read that to yourself.
17 (Pause)
18 A. Yes.
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20 Q. Actually, you have got "Pervase" in the last paragraph; it
21 says Pervase. That is an accurate note. Are these the
22 points you referred to earlier about steps being taken
23 which made the situation not normal, in terms of how the
24 practices would normally be?
25 A. Yes. Those kind of steps were taken to ensure that
26 everything was totally spick and span; and the normal
27 hurly-burly of daily life was glossed over.
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29 Q. Was -- sorry?
30 A. Was glossed up for the film, really -- glossed up for
31 the film.
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33 Q. Over the page, on page 17, at the top of the page, first
34 full paragraph: "At orientation, the normal statements
35 about instant dismissal for giving away food were not said.
36 Mass" -- is he one of the managers?
37 A. Yes, he was Floor Manager, I think, at the time.
38
39 Q. "....merely said that crew members would be severely talked
40 to." What point are you making there?
41 A. When I sat in on an orientation, during observation,
42 the staff, potential staff, new staff, were told that
43 eating food outside the normal break was a sackable
44 offence; and on the orientation that we were filming, he
45 did not say that.
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47 Q. Whilst you actually were filming?
48 A. Whilst we were actually filming, yes.
49
50 Q. I think you have dealt with the matters at the -- well, the
51 second to last paragraph that you dealt with on that page,
52 page 17. This is the matter about the -- I do not know
53 where this allegation came up, actually; is it not in your
54 statement, I cannot remember now -- about borrowing -- oh,
55 is it in the film, the point about them having to borrow
56 new equipment for doing the filtering in the store?
57 A. I cannot remember whether it is in the filming or not.
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59 Q. That is the reference, anyway, yes? That is something you
60 observed, and you -----
