Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 78


     
     1        A.  I see.
     2
     3   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is all.
     6
     7   MR. RAMPTON:  So would you expect, then, the rates of colon
     8        cancer in men to be about the same in all these high fat
     9        countries?
    10        A.  When compared with the really low rates you can get
    11        elsewhere in the world, yes, they are rather similar.  They
    12        should be rather similar.
    13
    14   Q.   Right.
    15        A.  Plus or minus a couple of standard deviations.
    16
    17   Q.   The last thing I would ask you to look at is that chapter,
    18        article if you like, written by Professor Hill.  I am
    19        afraid I cannot say where it is.  I am sorry.  It is yellow
    20        5.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  A thought has just crossed my mind.
    23        I mention it in case anybody wishes to pursue it in
    24        argument, but I have to say, looking at the set of pink
    25        diagrams, I am surprised at how much meat per day,
    26        including poultry, is eaten.  One, for instance, total meat
    27        in the UK is just over 200 grams per person per day, and
    28        just over 200 grams is not very far short of half a pound,
    29        a kilo being 2.2lbs.  It is just over point 4 of a point,
    30        unless my arithmetic has gone awry.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  It is all those Big Macs!
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What might help or might not, and I am not
    35        suggesting it need necessarily be done evidentially, is to
    36        see how that would transfer into the meat in McDonald's
    37        food, because at the end of the day that is what I am
    38        concerned with.  It would be pretty well the best part of
    39        two quarterpounders.  I do not know how many Chicken
    40        McNuggets it would be.  But it is just a thought that
    41        crosses my mind.  I will not go off on a frolic of my own
    42        without anyone else commenting on it, because otherwise
    43        I might make a fundamental mistake without realising.
    44        There we are.
    45
    46   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, I am grateful for that.  (To the witness):
    47        That grey thing, which we were just looking at -- do not
    48        bother to pick it up; Professor Crawford can give you a
    49        copy if you are interested because he made a contribution,
    50        I think.  He did, whether he attended a meeting, or ----- 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Anyway, you were going to Professor Hill. 
    53
    54   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.   I want to go, my Lord, to the 11th page of
    55        Professor Hill.  It is the last thing I want to do.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you can find Dr. Arnott's last statement.
    58        Which divider was it again?
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  Tab 12, my Lord.

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