Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 47


     
     1        A.  No, for cold drinks.
     2
     3   Q.   Are they the waxed card ones or what?
     4        A.  They probably would be poly coated board but we are
     5        talking about very small items here.  I could not give you
     6        a complete list because, as I said, they are small items
     7        and I could not do that from memory.
     8
     9   Q.   When was that, roughly?
    10        A.  Anywhere and any time when needed.  As I said, it was
    11        generally done, for instance, to start something up or to
    12        do a special promotion for which we had an item available
    13        in the States, but we did not have an equivalent here in
    14        Europe and then it was brought in.
    15
    16   Q.   The large cups, I mean, were they only introduced recently
    17        in the UK?
    18        A.  No, no, because I do not even think that that was
    19        something for the UK.
    20
    21   Q.   What for elsewhere in Europe then?
    22        A.  Yes, and it might only have been something for like a
    23        couple of months or so, because we do have a lot of cup
    24        suppliers here in Europe.  So, in principle, when we can,
    25        we source at our own suppliers.
    26
    27   Q.   What would have been the problem with getting suppliers
    28        from the local suppliers of big cups?
    29        A.  They may not have been available.  There may not have
    30        been capacity at the time.  There can be various reasons.
    31        It an also have been that they are running out of, or they
    32        stopped using something in the States and will then try to
    33        see if there is other markets that still can use it, so
    34        similar approach that we use in Europe.  If one market
    35        stops, phases out of a promotion, then we will see if we
    36        can use that packaging in another market.
    37
    38   Q.   Right.  Is that the sort of thing that happened when
    39        different sections of the company stopped using polystyrene
    40        foam?
    41        A.  That probably happened as well.  Obviously, parts of
    42        McDonald's did remain using the foam clam shell, so if the
    43        design is suitable for that other country, then you feed
    44        those stocks into the other country.
    45
    46   Q.   Do you know of that happening?
    47        A.  In that instance?
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is this a matter which is significant in some
    50        way? 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:  It may be. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you putting a positive suggestion or just
    55        exploring?
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It just occurs to me, compared with the
    58        millions of some packages which there must be which you
    59        have dealt with, whether a few tens of thousands of cups,
    60        if that is what they were, or even a hundred thousand cups

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