Day 202 - 11 Jan 96 - Page 15
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2 Q. The clock card matter, so far as you were concerned,
3 Sally Spurgeon was the person who was investigated; is that
4 correct?
5 A. Yes, because it was her access code that they used to
6 go into the files to alter the clock cards.
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8 Q. Right. No action was taken against anybody else?
9 A. We could not prove who had done it. It is, you know,
10 when you investigate something like this you have to
11 interview everyone there; and for any disciplinary action
12 to be taken, you have to be convinced that it is fair and
13 right. So, in the end, because she had given other people
14 access to her access code, anyone could have accessed those
15 files and changed it, so it was difficult to find out
16 exactly who had done it.
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18 Q. She was disciplined, though?
19 A. Yes, but disciplined because of the fact that she, you
20 know -- part of the written procedure is that you keep your
21 access code to yourself, precisely so that if someone was
22 to do something that was dishonest, then it could be traced
23 back to the person and not have a situation arise like this
24 where crew had been defrauded out of money, and we could
25 isolate the individual responsible for that.
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27 Q. But there was no evidence against any particular other
28 person?
29 A. No. It was not until Ray admitted that he cheated the
30 crew out of their money.
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32 Q. So, at the time, there was absolutely no evidence
33 whatsoever of dishonesty by Ray Coton?
34 A. At the time, we could not prove who was dishonest.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have to distinguish between -- there may
37 have been evidence, I do not know. But what the witness is
38 saying is that they could not prove who had done it.
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40 MR. MORRIS: Right.
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42 THE WITNESS: It is fair to say that there was not sufficient
43 conclusive evidence for us to act against Ray on this one,
44 or to anyone else that could have had access to Sally's
45 code and done that. It just would not have been fair.
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47 MR. MORRIS: Mark Davis would have had Sally Spurgeon's code,
48 would he not?
49 A. I would have hoped not, no.
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51 Q. He was the Supervisor at the time, was he not?
52 A. He was the Supervisor at the time, yes.
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54 Q. Sorry. I am just little bit all over the place here. In
55 Mr. Skehel's statement -- I will just read it out. For the
56 record, it is paragraph 11 on page 12. It is talking about
57 one or maybe two occasions you were at those meetings, at
58 the end of Mr. Coton's time at McDonald's, and that you
59 reviewed the key indicators about the restaurant and
60 Ray Coton not coping.
