Day 173 - 16 Oct 95 - Page 29
1 point where we were discussing what could I do, because
2 I had a very serious situation on my hands; and it was a
3 matter of delegating and seeking assistance from him. But
4 what is in here is exactly, OK, recollection, my sentiments
5 and my memory of what was happening at the restaurants.
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7 Q. What all I am saying is, you sat down at some stage with
8 Mr. Copeland, did you, before this got written?
9 A. Yes.
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11 Q. You chatted about it, and this is what came out of it?
12 A. Well, it is a long time ago. I cannot recollect how
13 exactly how we did it.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you have a specific case you want to put
16 about it, put it, if it is beyond the fact that someone
17 from America is there within a day or two of the picketing
18 starting. That much is apparent from the fact of the
19 memo. If there is something more you want to get, by all
20 means put it.
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22 MR. MORRIS: No. It is just the point I was making.
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24 MS. STEEL: I do not think it should necessarily be assumed that
25 he was from America. He could be from -----
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. Well, ask about that if you like. I do
28 not want to interrupt your cross-examination, but one thing
29 you might ask is where Mr. Copeland arrived from, to the
30 best of Mr. Mehigan's knowledge; did he come from London or
31 from Chicago, or wherever.
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33 MS. STEEL: I will ask. I am not sure how far it takes us,
34 because he could have come from -----
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: At the moment, I am assuming that he is First
37 Plaintiff, although someone has put in the name of the
38 Second Plaintiff, showing a lack of distinction between the
39 parties which has from time to time been shown in the
40 course of this case.
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42 MS. STEEL: I think Mr. Copeland has said in his statement
43 something about working from the UK some of the time at
44 least.
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46 MR. RAMPTON: That was not until the late 1980s.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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50 MR. RAMPTON: 1988.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If there is a point on it, why not ask anyway.
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54 MS. STEEL: (To the witness) Do you remember where Mr. Copeland
55 arrived from when he arrived?
56 A. No, I do not.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: On one construction of matters, it would be
59 more in your interests that he was working for the First
60 Plaintiff than the second.
