Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 54


     
     1   Q.   Right.  Hang on, if I find which ones you are referring to
     2        here, there is photograph number 15 in the same tab and
     3        photograph number 18.
     4        A.  That one.
     5
     6   Q.   Sorry, OK.
     7        A.  That is those.  You want me to go through 4B?
     8
     9   Q.   No, if you just hold on for a minute.
    10
    11   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not mean to be discourteous, but
    12        I have no idea what we are talking about.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We are in tab 18 of supplemental Defendants'
    15        bundle 2.  38, sorry.
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  I am grateful.
    18
    19   MS. STEEL:  The other one is photograph number 28.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Those are the photograph numbers which have
    22        been given.
    23
    24   MS. STEEL:   I do not know whether you made a note of the ones
    25        I read out?
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have got 4, 14, 15, 18 and 28 at the
    28        moment.
    29
    30   THE WITNESS:  I believe there are better photographs in court of
    31        these, because photograph -----
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  Are you looking at -----
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He is looking in pink 2 now.
    36
    37   THE WITNESS:  Photograph 3 -- it would be 4, I think.  These are
    38        not numbered in this thing.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which page are they on?
    41        A.  Page 2, my Lord.
    42
    43   Q.   Just pause a moment.
    44        A.  The bottom picture.
    45
    46   Q.   It is tab 5, is it?
    47        A.  It is tab 5.
    48
    49   Q.   Which page?
    50        A.  Page 2, the bottom picture. 
    51 
    52   Q.   That is photograph 4. 
    53        A.  Yes, I think if that was a better photograph we may see
    54        some better detail.
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:   Can we just stay on these ones for a moment that
    57        you have identified as possibly being copies of the fact
    58        sheet.  You are doing that, basically, on the size of it?
    59        A.  That is all I can do it on.
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