Day 306 - 26 Nov 96 - Page 19


     
     1        him.
     2
     3        Then, at the top of page 56, I asked him how many meetings
     4        he attended.
     5
     6        I said to him: "So you have no idea if it was five, 10, 15
     7        or anything?"
     8
     9        Answer: "It would not have been as many as 15.  I would be
    10        guessing.  It probably may have been if five that I
    11        attended."
    12
    13        So, he had the impression that five was kind of like a
    14        maximum number of meetings that he attended; and that is
    15        after reading his notes.  He says:  "From what I recall of
    16        my notes."
    17
    18        Line 16: "So, really, it is entirely based on your notes
    19        what your recollection is?"
    20
    21        Answer, "I recall you were there" -- that was 1st March --
    22        "but only from my notes."
    23
    24        Anyway, that goes off on to another point.  The point I am
    25        making is that he only believed he was there for as many as
    26        five meetings, and, in fact, he was there for more than 18
    27        meetings.  That further damages his credibility as a
    28        witness and the impressions that he was trying to put
    29        over.
    30
    31        Anyway, sticking with 1st March, which is my main focus
    32        here, on page 59, day 265:  "You do not now recall that
    33        meeting?"
    34
    35        Answer: "No, I do not."
    36
    37        Then I said to him, at the bottom of page 60: "You do not
    38        mention me saying that I was absent, looking after my
    39        female partner and my child who had broken bones after an
    40        accident?"
    41
    42        He says: "No, I do not."
    43
    44        "Can you say why you did not put that in," I asked.
    45
    46        Answer:  "Not relevant, as far as I was concerned."
    47
    48        Then, line 9:  "You said before that if we said something,
    49        myself or Helen, it was likely to be noted.  Did you not
    50        say that?" 
    51 
    52        Answer:  "Yes." 
    53
    54        Question: "Is it not relevant that I have stated that I had
    55        got such domestic circumstances that I cannot be involved
    56        in the group?"
    57
    58        Answer: "Not to me at that time.  I did not make a note of
    59        it."
    60

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