Day 307 - 27 Nov 96 - Page 23


     
     1        The other point, on the point that you are asking, is that
     2        you said that it did not make any difference which leaflets
     3        had been distributed.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, I did not mean to say that.  You have
     6        explained your point.
     7
     8   MS. STEEL:   I did not mean it like that.  An additional point,
     9        in actual fact when I was being cross-examined and
    10        Mr. Gravett was being cross-examined Mr. Rampton did
    11        actually make some comment about how the leaflets had
    12        changed, or something, and he gave an indication that he
    13        did not consider the current leaflets to be defamatory and
    14        so, obviously, you know, in that case...
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I did not understand that.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:   I don't think I said that.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:   I will have to find the part of cross-examination.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There must be a misunderstanding, because I
    23        don't think that is so.  Anyway, you have answered the
    24        query I have in mind that -- well, I am not going to repeat
    25        what you have said.  You have answered my query.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:   OK.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Anyway, your last point was that the evidence
    30        you have called and some of that given by the Plaintiffs'
    31        witnesses does support the other leaflet.
    32
    33   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  I mean, certainly I personally would never
    34        distribute a leaflet which I believed to be untrue and
    35        which I did not have some good reason for believing was
    36        true.  I mean, I did say that in the witness box.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   You gave evidence to that effect.
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:   Yes, I cannot speak for every single leaflet in all
    41        publication bundles, because (a) I have not read them, and
    42        (b) some of them are from groups that I have not even
    43        remotely heard of and I have absolutely no idea where they
    44        got their facts from.  I am not saying that any of them are
    45        untrue, just that I cannot speak for all of them because I
    46        have not read them all.  Certainly, any leaflets which
    47        I have ever distributed I believe to be true.  I mean,
    48        there was one in the bundles from a fascist organisation.
    49        I have no idea.  I can't remember what it says, I don't
    50        really think I would be -- I mean, I am not in agreement 
    51        with fascists, but I don't know what they specifically say 
    52        about McDonald's, but I might very well not be in agreement 
    53        with that.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:   Maybe I will say it now, I did say yesterday that
    58        most of those leaflets are completely irrelevant because
    59        McDonald's have not shown any link between us and those
    60        leaflets.

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