Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 54


     
     1        employment history -- that he had PR problems.  If you look
     2        down the left-hand side, he started on 16.6.92, and did not
     3        get, well, he only got a 15 pence pay rise.  He was still
     4        getting £3.10, only 10 pence more, by two and a half years
     5        later.  He finally got a rise on 20th December 1994,
     6        according to this.  Does that relate to what you were
     7        saying about PR problems?
     8        A.  I am just checking here.  PR problems, I was just
     9        saying more the fact that they were not taken seriously.
    10        You know, it did not matter what your PR said because they
    11        just were not -- they tended to be rushed off and done in
    12        batches, and they were just done for almost for the
    13        paperwork side of things.  They were not done to improve
    14        people's performance.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have read quickly through some of the
    17        comments there, and maybe that is not the best example to
    18        choose to demonstrate the point you are trying to make, if
    19        there is any truth in the comment?
    20        A.  Well, I cannot read some of them.
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  Did John Gore work hard in your memory?
    23        A.  Sometimes he worked very hard, sometimes he did not
    24        work very hard.  I think he needed to be pushed.
    25
    26   Q.   He needed to be?
    27        A.  Pushed.
    28
    29   Q.   Pushed.  Of course, that 10 pence rise in two and a half
    30        years would have included Company rises anyway, so if there
    31        were any -- OK.
    32        A.  These would only be useful if they were given to him 4
    33        every four months to encourage him to work.  If you gave
    34        him two or three and just got him to sign them all off, he
    35        is going to know that they are not very relevant and that
    36        was, to me, I believe his feeling on it.
    37
    38   Q.   The PR on page 147, Mike Stokes, another person you
    39        remembered that had PR problems and scheduling problems.
    40        A.  Right, tab 8.
    41
    42   Q.   Treated badly, you said?
    43        A.  Yes.
    44
    45   Q.   He only got on 16.6.92 £3.00 -- this is on page 147 -- and
    46        he did not get to £3.15 per hour until 27.12.93, sorry.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I would like you to do is ask the
    49        witness questions about them rather than just draw them to
    50        our attention.  I do not mind you doing the latter to some 
    51        extent so you can see the area you are aiming at. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  I am trying just to take one example.  It seems to
    54        be a similar problem that he had in that he was still on
    55        £3.15 by August 93 -- sorry, no, wait a minute ---
    56        A.  12.93.
    57
    58   Q.   -- it seems, we will leave that.  These employee history
    59        records, are they, in your experience ------
    60

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