Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 44
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2 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, that is right, "I knew of cases" in the
3 plural. (To the witness): Any other cases that you
4 actually witnessed yourself of people working 26 hours in a
5 row?
6 A. Oh, yes. I have had -- I remember cases other than
7 that happening.
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9 Q. Tell us.
10 A. There were similar sort of cases on the night shift and
11 working through the night and working again in the morning
12 shift.
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14 Q. You were there all the time?
15 A. I was not there all of the time, no. I mean, even in
16 this case I was not there all the time but .....
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18 Q. Page 7, please, Mr. Alimi, you write or somebody has
19 written for you, but you aver the truth of this statement:
20 "Management would also cut", this is at the top of the
21 page, the second line, "The number of scheduled work hours
22 of anyone who refused to do the extra hours on a late shift
23 etc. This was done so that eventually the person could not
24 survive on the money, that he/she was getting from the job
25 and would have to leave. I am positive that this technique
26 was used directly for that purpose - crew members were
27 told" -- please tell us what is the basis or ground for
28 what you say there.
29 A. Well, I was frequently told by whoever was drawing up
30 this schedule, either Simon Gibney or Steve Harney, that
31 when they draw up this schedule they are told or instructed
32 by higher up Managers to put pressure on those people who
33 refuse to comply with the management instructions,
34 specially night closes. If they refuse to do closes after
35 12 o'clock, they would have been -- their hours would have
36 been cut.
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38 Q. They told you that?
39 A. Oh, yes. I was not in any position myself to find
40 out. I mean, unless other people -- I mean, I was not in
41 management position to know that. I did not take part in
42 the meetings, so I would have been told by somebody else.
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44 Q. Tell me, when did you become a Trainee Manager?
45 A. I never became -----
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47 Q. Sorry, a training squad?
48 A. Training squad. I do not exactly know the date, but
49 I believe it was something like six months before I left
50 McDonald's.
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52 Q. At the bottom of page 7: "If late shift work would involve
53 a female employee under", going over to the top of page 8,
54 "The age 18 carrying on past 10 o'clock, or a male
55 employee under the age of 18 carrying on past 12 o'clock,
56 they would be asked if they wanted to work past these
57 hours", and so on. You say it happened a few times and
58 that they agreed.
59 A. Yes.
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