Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 58


     
     1   Q.   Right.  So, if a demonstration was organised at
     2        Headquarters by London Greenpeace involving, as you claim,
     3        circulation of the fact sheets, that would be a
     4        particularly strong piece of evidence?
     5        A.  No, no.
     6
     7   Q.   The actual coming to your Headquarters -----
     8        A.  What I was after were the people who were the authors
     9        and the distributors world wide, not who was standing
    10        outside of restaurants.  I have got plenty of photographs
    11        of people handing them out outside of restaurants.
    12        I wanted to know who the main organisers were.
    13
    14   Q.   There you have London Greenpeace organising a demonstration
    15        right outside your Headquarters, which you say involved the
    16        distribution of the London Greenpeace fact sheet, and you
    17        have come and given evidence about it -- you included it in
    18        your statement because you thought it was a significant
    19        moment?
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.   So, you would have been aware that that particular
    23        demonstration would be evidence in any likely future case?
    24        A.  Not strong evidence.  That is not the evidence
    25        I wanted.  I wanted to know who the organisers of
    26        London Greenpeace were.
    27
    28   Q.   Yes.  You had met with the Special Branch a month before.
    29        They have shown you photographs of people which you then
    30        observed at the demonstration at the Headquarters.  So you
    31        made a point to be there yourself, that you remembered the
    32        photographs that were shown to you -- you probably even had
    33        copies of them, I do not know ---
    34        A.  No.
    35
    36   Q.   -- and it sticks in your mind to this day?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.   Because that was a very important demonstration?
    40        A.  That was not what I was after.  I must repeat, I was
    41        after who -- if I could find out the author, the main
    42        people concerned, the distributors and the printer.
    43        I wanted everyone in the net, if I could get them.  I was
    44        not going to get that from a demonstration outside of Head
    45        Office.  As far as I was concerned, at that time, what the
    46        demonstration outside of Head Office provided me with was
    47        an opportunity to take some photographs of the people
    48        involved.  Nothing else.
    49
    50   Q.   You looked at the photographs and you have pointed out 
    51        particular ----- 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We are going over and over the ground.  You
    54        are just arguing with the witness now what you have to
    55        argue to me in due course, putting it in its proper context
    56        as you see it.  I mean, we had this on a previous occasion
    57        when Mr. Preston was being cross-examined.  Rightly or
    58        wrongly, he says he did not have enough for his purposes.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  Can we just, on one subject -----

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