Day 173 - 16 Oct 95 - Page 51


     
     1        get an answer which hedges back on that answer and puts you
     2        in a worse position, but you are not going to do better.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   Were the business trips out of the country to do
     5        with the dispute with the union, meeting people like
     6        Mr. Copeland or anybody else in connection with that?
     7        A.  No, not from memory.
     8
     9   Q.   You say in this letter, "None of my employees have come to
    10        me and expressed a desire to be represented by your union
    11        and they have not expressed any dissatisfaction with their
    12        wages and conditions".  That was a lie, is it not?
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  There are two statements there.  Are they both
    15        lies or are they separate lies?
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let the witness answer.  Deal with the whole
    18        or parts as you choose, Mr. Mehigan.
    19        A.  Sorry, may I ask you to repeat the first part of your
    20        question?
    21
    22   MS. STEEL:  I read the paragraph out and I said "This is a lie,
    23        is it not"?
    24        A.  Which, the entire paragraph?
    25
    26   Q.   That they have not -- well, you say what the position is
    27        then.  You tell us yourself.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look at the third paragraph on page 969,
    30        "None of my employees have come to me and expressed a
    31        desire to be represented by your union and they have not
    32        expressed any dissatisfaction with their wages and
    33        conditions".  Ms. Steel is suggesting to you, now we have
    34        looked at the memorandum, that that is untrue, in all
    35        respects, she says.
    36
    37   MS. STEEL:  The first part is misleading at the least, if not an
    38        outright lie; you were well aware that crew, that employees
    39        were interested in being represented by a union even if
    40        they had not expressly stated it to you.  That is correct,
    41        is it not?
    42        A.  They have not expressed it to me that they wished to be
    43        represented by a union.
    44
    45   Q.   But you were well aware they were interested in being
    46        involved with a union and union activity and being
    47        represented by a union?
    48        A.  Well, there were some rumblings as indicated earlier
    49        on.
    50 
    51   Q.   The second part of that is a blatant lie, is it not, 
    52        because Mr. Mosrek, at the very minimum, had expressed 
    53        dissatisfaction with his wages and there had been other
    54        complaints about conditions?
    55        A.  Yes, he expressed unhappiness with his rate of pay, but
    56        he did not represent the entire workforce.
    57
    58   Q.   It says, "None of my employees", I would remind you.
    59        Is it possible to have a five minute break?
    60

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