Day 058 - 30 Nov 94 - Page 12


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  Presumably, for the paper mill manufacturers the
     2        production of pulpwood is not by the way, it is a
     3        profitable enterprise, yes?
     4        A.  For the owner of the forest.
     5
     6   Q.   And the owner of the forest?
     7        A.  For the owner of the forest, the supply of timber for
     8        pulp is the lowest value.
     9
    10   Q.   But it is additional profit.
    11        A.  Yes, additional but very much part of the calculation.
    12
    13   Q.   Of course.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I was not meaning to dispute that.  Is
    16        what he is saying, you are going to have the forest anyway
    17        for the sawn wood content and since you have got them
    18        primarily for the sawn wood content, you will get what you
    19        require for pulp from them also?
    20        A.  That is exactly what he is saying.
    21
    22   Q.   Whether he is right or not, that is what he is saying?
    23        A.  That is what he is saying.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  I think if that is the interpretation that is being
    26        put on that, then I would like to cross-examine
    27        Mr. Thompson.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Oh, Mr. Thompson, we will come to that.
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  In his last paragraph he says:  "An indeterminate
    32        amount of extra forest area is needed to
    33        obtain ... (reading to the words) ... we require because of
    34        other obligations in terms of amenity, recreation,
    35        conservation and various changes in species, soils and
    36        climates", is that correct, "have to be taken into
    37        account"?
    38        A.  Yes, I think he is referring here to the general
    39        changing pattern of forest management we are in all over
    40        the world now, other considerations than the yield for
    41        either sawmill product or for pulp are taken into account.
    42        I think he is just making a general statement on that
    43        matter.  In other words, these calculations will vary
    44        according to the way forests are managed in a different
    45        part of the world.
    46
    47   Q.   Yes, but the point is that in any forests, it is not just
    48        wall to wall trees; there are -----
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is the point he is making. 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  There will be pathways --- 
    53        A.  That is right.
    54
    55   Q.   -- there will be streams, rivers which, in practice, you
    56        are not supposed to plant trees next to.
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   There maybe recreation areas in the forests, there may be
    60        special soil and climate implications that mean that trees

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