Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 37
1 Q. -- in that paragraph, specific points?
2 A. Yes, I think the basis of it is that there is room for
3 improvement in the quality of foods typically served at
4 that time.
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6 Q. For example, fat contents?
7 A. For example, fat content of chips could be changed by
8 making the chips chunky rather than thin; increase in
9 dietary fibre could be considered, for example, by
10 wholemeal buns, salads containing peas, beans, nuts,
11 carrots and cabbage. So there are indications there that
12 changes could be considered which at that time were not
13 being considered or not overtly being considered.
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15 Q. The next paragraph is the quality of oil used?
16 A. Yes. Its potential to break down into -- deteriorate
17 into undesirable products. I am not sure that is a
18 particular worry today.
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20 Q. So this is the British Nutrition Foundation, this is an
21 industry body, presumably, advising industry largely?
22 A. Yes. I should say it is largely industry financed; it
23 is not an industry body per se.
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25 Q. I assume that normally this kind of body, industry body,
26 is not traditionally a radical or critical organisation of
27 the food industry?
28 A. No.
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30 Q. It would tend to be a rather cautious body?
31 A. I would say exactly that. I would say it also has the
32 ear of government fairly frequently in the sense the
33 government is happy to turn to it for collaborative
34 projects. There has been a Ministry of Agriculture
35 collaboration on the schools' nutrition education
36 programme with the British Nutrition Foundation.
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38 Q. If we move on from that document, unless there are any
39 other points you want to make in that document at all?
40 A. I think that is sufficient.
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42 Q. We will move on from that. The next part of your
43 statement on page number -- the pages are not numbered but
44 the same page refers to a quote from Verner Wheelock?
45 A. Yes.
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47 Q. But just in summary, I believe -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where are you now?
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51 MR. MORRIS: This is the bottom of the first page of the second
52 statement.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do not want to be difficult, but I am
55 anxious, if it is at all possible, that Mr. Lobstein
56 should be enabled not to have to come back tomorrow. Your
57 Lordship has already invited Dr. Lobstein to say whether
58 his statement should stand as his evidence. I think it
59 was Ms. Steel who asked whether he was content that should
60 be so and he said: "Yes". Now if there is any expansion
