Day 259 - 10 Jun 96 - Page 53


     
     1        recollection that they were paid -- there were evening
     2        rates, and so on ---?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.  -- depending on the hour during the day.  But is it your
     6        recollection also that if you worked more than so many
     7        hours in a week, then you were also paid a higher rate,
     8        something like time and a quarter; or what is your
     9        recollection?
    10        A.  I really cannot remember to that detail.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  That would not have been your
    13        responsibility at that time?
    14        A.  No.
    15
    16   Q.   No.  So, if the wages inspector had asked any questions
    17        about the detailed calculation of overtime and whether it
    18        was fitting into the Wages Council, they would have had to
    19        ask somebody else whose area of responsibility that was?
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.   When you were with him, generally, you were the person who
    23        was assigned to accompanying him around, were you?
    24        A.  That is right.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:   But you did say you did not stay with him all the
    27        time, and if he was trying to get information about, for
    28        example, overtime, specific calculations to do with
    29        overtime, somebody else would be with him rather than you?
    30        A.  We had an open plan office, so he was never far away;
    31        he was always within eyesight.
    32
    33   Q.   But that could be 30 feet away, or something like that?
    34        A.  No.  The office was not that big.
    35
    36   Q.   How big?
    37        A.  I cannot remember, but he would be within speaking
    38        distance.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  Were you eavesdropping on every word he said
    41        during -----
    42        A.  No, absolutely not.  It was not necessary.  He had a
    43        job to do and so did I.
    44
    45   MS. STEEL:   You would be getting on with your job at the same
    46        time as he was talking to somebody else?
    47        A.  I would hope so.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  He had to check holiday pay, he had to check tax,
    50        he had to different times of employees, unsocial hours; he 
    51        had a whole range of things to check, did he not? 
    52        A.  He did not have to check the tax calculation, no.  That 
    53        was not what he was there for.  He was there to calculate
    54        the gross pay as opposed to the net pay.
    55
    56   Q.   Within that gross pay, he had to check every variable?
    57        A.  Absolutely.
    58
    59   Q.   So, the amount he would have spent on overtime might have
    60        been actually very small, because that is only one of the

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