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     1        allotted to Professor Crawford.  If he has no relevant
     2        evidence to give because he deals with the cardiological
     3        implications of diet, and that alone, why then those two
     4        days would be vacated.  It may be also that Dr. Riley on
     5        the following Thursday is in the same category because he
     6        trumpets the virtues of vegetarianism, I believe.
     7        Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris have disavowed that line of
     8        country at the end of last term.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think it was me who said that I could not
    11        see myself making any criticism of vegetarianism or a
    12        vegan diet.
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  You did say that, and it arose out of a rather
    15        excited objection from Ms. Steel to Professor Wheelock's
    16        assertion that vegetarians have to be just as careful what
    17        they eat as do omnivores.  Ms. Steel leapt up and said she
    18        thought it was a jolly bad idea that he should say that
    19        because the virtues or demerits of a vegetarian
    20        diet were -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It would multiply the length of the trial by
    23        three, but all I was saying there was that this is not a
    24        trial about vegetarianism.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  No, it is not, except to this limited extent,
    27        that the balance of the diet may be important and there
    28        may be benefits conferred by the consumption of animal
    29        products which deny to an extent a vegetarian diet.  That
    30        is all.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us wait and see.  I must say I was not
    33        aware -- maybe I need educating -- I am very loath to
    34        expand the scope of the trial beyond that which is
    35        required.  I was not aware you could not have a balanced
    36        vegetarian diet.
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  You can, but all I am saying is you have to be as
    39        careful as you do if you are an omnivore, that is all,
    40        which is what Professor Wheelock was saying.  This
    41        doctor -- if he is a doctor -- or Mr. Rye I believe, as
    42        I recall -- I have not looked at his statement for nearly
    43        a year -- but I believe it is to do with the virtues of
    44        vegetarianism.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is there is no more
    47        discussion of the needs or otherwise to call these
    48        witnesses at this stage because, quite frankly, it is some
    49        time since I have read them and I might use Wednesday.  I
    50        will go back and reread them, so if there is an argument 
    51        as to whether they are relevant or not I am better 
    52        prepared to deal with them. 
    53
    54   MR. RAMPTON:  That is what we have suggested in our letter to
    55        the defendants, that Wednesday might be a convenient
    56        moment to deal with that.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I was suggesting I might use some of
    59        Wednesday in my room to reread them.
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