Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 65


     
     1        Dr. Long, what I would like to be able to do when we meet
     2        again, and this is why I suggested we proceed in this
     3        manner, is for you to draw attention to any parts of the
     4        evidence of Dr. Gregory or of Mr. Bowes or Mr. Chambers
     5        either which you disagree with or which give you concern
     6        from the animal welfare point of view.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I am rather anxious about that for this
     9        reason.  You may be a very fast reader; not all of us are,
    10        Mr. Rampton.  For all I know Dr. Long is too, but what I am
    11        concerned about is if he then comes back tomorrow and
    12        speaks of specific things he disagrees with or give him
    13        concern, he may well not mention one purely and simply
    14        because in the rush to get through he either has not
    15        noticed it or it has not had a full impact.
    16
    17        At the end of the day if there has not been evidence either
    18        in-chief or as a result of questions in cross-examination
    19        where Dr. Long has said he disagreed with Dr. Gregory,
    20        provided I think well of Dr. Gregory generally, obviously
    21        it might be that I accept his evidence.  I can see you made
    22        comment, well, in fact Dr. Long did not give evidence to
    23        controvert that, but I do not think it would be right for
    24        me to infer that he actually agreed with something because
    25        tomorrow he did not raids it as something he contested.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  I was not thinking of trying to play a game like
    28        that.  I was hoping that if he had read them and he noticed
    29        them himself the things which seemed to him of particular
    30        importance, I would not infer from his having missed
    31        something that it was not necessarily something he
    32        disagreed with.  At the same time, it would be open to me
    33        to say that he had not controverted it.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You would be able to say that whether he read
    36        the transcript or not if you chose to.
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, there is a vast amount in the evidence of
    39        Mr. Ashley Bowes which ----
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What are the priorities?  You are prepared to
    42        do your best to achieve this, are you?
    43
    44   THE WITNESS:  Yes.  I will lay in a stock of coffee!
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have some time tomorrow.  What is the
    47        order of precedence, Mr. Rampton?  Dr. Gregory first, is
    48        it?
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  There is not a great deal of water between 
    51        Dr. Long and Dr. Gregory.  Dr. Gregory has, with one or two 
    52        reservations, validated the industrial enterprise of 
    53        Midland Meat and G.D. Bowes & Sons.  I do not believe that
    54        need contain Dr. Long for very long.  What does concern me,
    55        I do not want to be unfair to Dr. Long, much of the
    56        evidence he has given about pigs quite evidently, I say
    57        much of it, not all, has no application whatsoever to
    58        G.D. Bowes & Sons.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That will be a matter of for comment in due

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