Day 007 - 06 Jul 94 - Page 69
1 have been a small percentage of the total recycled paper
used in the United States, would it not?
2 A. Assumably, I do not know. I do not know what that
total figure was in that year.
3
Q. Presumably, did McDonald's say to you: "We must use
4 recycled paper; go and buy up more stocks"?
A. We do not buy recycled paper per se. We buy packaging
5 that contains recycled paper. McDonald's at a time gave
me a direction to reduce the packaging, to reincrease
6 recycle content and that is the -----
7 Q. They did not increase their recycle content for at least
two years from 1987, except by 1 per cent, so -----
8 A. If there is nothing available, I do not know how we
could increase it.
9
MR. JUSTICE BELL: How long would it take to change over your
10 supply of McDonald's packaging?
A. If we, for instance, designed a new package to
11 introduce for a sandwich or if we changed the style of a
package, our typical testing would be to go into one store
12 for 60 days, to expand that to ten stores for 60 days, to
expand that to 50 stores and then to 300 in sequences of
13 those 60 days do. To roll out package nationally might
take somewhere near a year. That is assuming that the raw
14 materials were all, met the acceptance of the FDA's
guidelines. That is the process that we are amongst right
15 now with post consumer recycled paper, is making sure that
the guidelines were provided by our food and drug
16 administration are met by the raw materials we are looking
at.
17
MR. MORRIS: That 6 per cent, do you know if it was used for
18 post-consumer, post-customer packaging or for the
corrugated shipping?
19 A. It was used for corrugated in addition to drink
carriers, possibly some in happy milk cartons, toilet
20 tissue.
21 Q. I believe corrugated shipping materials is a third of your
post-consumer waste, is that correct, something like that?
22 A. It is a third of the waste that is found in the
dumpster in the back of McDonald's, the trash bin.
23
Q. So of this 6 per cent, something like, you do not know,
24 but it could have been all corrugated except for you said
there was -- which packaging actually had recycled paper
25 inside it?
A. The drink carriers, napkins, happy meal cartons.
26
Q. Drink carriers we are talking about that customers have in
27 their hands?
A. The carriers to drink, all the cups, four hole
28 carriers, so there would be four beverages you carried in
a small tray.
29
Q. That was in the 1987?
30 A. Yes.
