Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 31


     
     1        A.  That is correct.
     2
     3   Q.   So, is that something you felt was a significant piece of
     4        information to identify, in your investigations?  That is
     5        something you retained a continuing interest in?
     6        A.  It was something I noted at the time in whatever
     7        particular reports you are referring to.
     8
     9   Q.   But is that something that you would have note if you heard
    10        anything to the contrary?
    11        A.  To the contrary of the information I have put in
    12        there?
    13
    14   Q.   Yes -- or did you just put selective stuff down?
    15        A.  Well, I have put selective stuff down.  I could not
    16        transcribe a whole meeting.  It was of course selective.
    17
    18   Q.   What I am saying is, if you put down something and then, at
    19        a different week, somebody said something different -----
    20        A.  If there was some glaring contradiction to some
    21        information I had previously heard, then I would have
    22        attempted to remember that and make a note of that, yes.
    23
    24   Q.   In general, things that may be relevant to McDonald's and
    25        to me and Helen, i.e. if me and Helen spoke about
    26        McDonald's, that would be something that you would have
    27        noted in your reports in general?
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We have been through this on a number of
    30        occasions.  It seems to me that Mr. Pocklington's answer
    31        amounts to, probably -- that is not to say he definitely
    32        would -- he would have probably written it down if he had
    33        remembered it, when he got to write his note; that is what
    34        his evidence is.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  That was the purpose of you attending those
    37        meetings, to remember things like that?
    38        A.  I was never given specific people to concentrate on.
    39        I was never told that you and Helen Steel were the two
    40        people that I should be concentrating on.  Nothing was ever
    41        said to me like that.  It was for me to report on what
    42        happened at meetings.
    43
    44   Q.   This meeting was attended by me; and, apart from -- the
    45        only other meeting you definitely recall me attending
    46        before that was way back in October 1989.  So, anything
    47        that I said would have been particularly worthy of note,
    48        because you had nothing else concrete from my mouth; would
    49        you accept that?
    50        A.  No, I would not accept that.  You seem to be making an 
    51        assumption that I had been given you as a specific target 
    52        that I had to go after.  That is not the case.  My function 
    53        was there was to report on what happened at meetings.
    54
    55   Q.   I understand that.  But, I mean, if you were doing your job
    56        and you felt that I was some kind of significant person,
    57        but in fact you had never actually seen me at any meetings,
    58        then this was some opportunity to get down something that
    59        I had actually said?
    60        A.  What I included in my reports were things which, as I

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