Day 274 - 04 Jul 96 - Page 10


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest you do is, if need be we will
     3        have a 10 minute break, cut out the bits you want to
     4        disclose, borrow some Pritstick, is it, stick it on a sheet
     5        of paper, get it photocopied and produce a copy of it to
     6        Mrs. Brinley-Codd and a copy for me.
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     8   MS. STEEL:  Yes, okay.
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    10   MR. RAMPTON:  The only thing I want to say about that is, that
    11        is a classic example of what your Lordship is saying
    12        because the analysis was not done by Professor Crawford.
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    14   MS. STEEL:  It was done by his department though.
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am prepared to do a bit of working through
    17        what I see as the potential problem over documents.  I am
    18        prepared to play some part in that, although it is not
    19        really my job, and we should all take it up again on Monday
    20        morning and see where we have got to.
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    22   MS. STEEL:  Can I just mention as well, actually, that the
    23        Plaintiffs -- Mr. Fairgrieve was going to get back to us
    24        about the figures on the frequency of visits and I do not
    25        know whether that has been forgotten about, but we have not
    26        heard anything.
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    28   MR. RAMPTON:  It has not been forgotten about. Mr. Fairgrieve
    29        offered to try and reproduce what was he was sent by Taylor
    30        Nelson, if your Lordship remembers.  He asked Taylor Nelson
    31        if they cannot do it without spending thousands of pounds
    32        and weeks and weeks, what they can do is to produce, and I
    33        believe it would be for me to volunteer whether they would
    34        like to do so, they can produce an equivalent -- sorry, my
    35        Lord.  Mr. Fairgrieve said they were two-sheet fact sheets
    36        that he made his calculations on, they can produce similar
    37        two sheets for last year, as opposed to 1993-4, which was
    38        the one in question.
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is that those be produced as
    41        quickly as possible.  There may be some indication of
    42        earlier years and that will just have to come out in the
    43        wash.
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    45   MR. RAMPTON:  Again, the problem with it is I may be willing to
    46        produce them, but they again -- I mean, they are in this
    47        extraordinary limbo category.  They have come out of a
    48        computer terminus and--
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    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They may be, but what I think it seems to me
    51        the point may be this, that if they are produced as soon as
    52        possible then there may be agreement of those figures along
    53        with this, that or the other appendix of Mr. Fairgrieve to
    54        avoid any difficulty which there may be about admissibility
    55        of the material in the appendices.
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    57   MR. RAMPTON:  The other problem is, of course, that they do not
    58        relate to anything dealt with in Mr. Fairgrieve's
    59        appendices or his evidence; they are for the latest year,
    60        which is nowhere dealt with.

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