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1 Q. As far as documentation goes of the indigenous peoples'
2 presence and status and disputes, is there any report more
3 authoritative than this report which was done by CEDI and
4 the National Museum?
5 A. This, I believe, is the most comprehensive report and
6 many of the sources come from FUNAI and other organisations
7 that are working on the ground So I believe that this is
8 an authoritative report.
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10 Q. Is this a report one that is relied upon by all experts in
11 this subject?
12 A. Yes, and it is also compiled by anthropologists whose
13 trade it is to work with indigenous peoples.
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15 Q. Right.
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17 MS. STEEL: Can I just ask, you say you had not been to Mato
18 Grosso do Sul. The problems that you have outlined
19 relating to Mato Grosso do Sul, are there the same problems
20 throughout Brazil?
21 A. Yes. For example, in Romdonia and the Roraima States
22 where I have been, the problems there are very similar
23 where you have cattle ranchers who have taken indigenous
24 peoples' land, taken appropriated land, and where also
25 there is the situation of great conflict. I have visited
26 those areas personally, spoken to indigenous people who
27 have suffered from the impact of cattle ranching and the
28 situation of Mato Grosso is very similar. It is a general
29 problem in Brazil.
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31 Q. Right. No further questions. Thank you.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. Leave everything else there,
34 Miss Watson. Someone else will tidy up that.
35 A. Thank you.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Unless there is something which we must deal
38 with, I suggest we adjourn now. Everyone can use the half
39 day. Is there something which we must do?
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41 MR. RAMPTON: I only rise to tell your Lordship that we have
42 decided not to call Mr. Monroe.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. Is he still a Civil Evidence Act
45 witness?
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47 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, yes. As your Lordship has observed, he
48 chiefly has to do with the film Jungle Burger which perhaps
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think in this case if I even begin to
52 speculate as to why someone is called or not called on
53 either side, it is likely to lead me astray in one way or
54 another.
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56 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. We will adjourn now. I am not
59 unappreciative of the difficulties, and I understand from
60 Mr. Glen that arrangements were made this morning which
