Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 81


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, thank you.
     2
     3                    Re-examined by the Defendants
     4
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Just on that subject, the oleic acid, you do not
     6        know of any evidence that has found that is not protective;
     7        is that correct?
     8        A.  There is a double negative there.  You are saying that
     9        is there any evidence where oleic acid is not
    10        protective-----
    11
    12   Q.   Yes.  I am trying to clarify the last question Mr. Rampton
    13        was asking.
    14        A.  When you say "is not protective", of course, I can go
    15        to the literature and find cases where oleic acid seems to
    16        have no relationship to particular kinds of events
    17        concerning coronary heart disease.  So, I do not have an
    18        answer to that question really.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are there any more questions?
    21
    22   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  I will just briefly deal with a couple of
    23        things.  Just one thing which seemed to be hinted at, but
    24        I am not sure whether it is going to be taken as a point,
    25        but just in case it is, we had reference to the study about
    26        the diet in China; there was some mention about Chinese
    27        vegetables.  Is it thought that there is some difference
    28        between Chinese vegetables and the vegetables that the rest
    29        of the world consumes that might have some significant
    30        difference?
    31        A.  No.
    32
    33   Q.   Right.
    34        A.  No significant differences.
    35
    36   Q.   The other thing is if you could get the World Health
    37        Organisation Report again.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is in orange 4 at the back.
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:   Mr. Rampton asked you to look at page 91?
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   Q.   The part about summarising the links between diet and
    45        cancers suggesting that a high intake of total fat, and
    46        they also promote the development of a number of cancers.
    47        "The evidence cannot be considered sufficiently strong to
    48        be termed 'causal', but most expert groups now consider it
    49        prudent to reduce fat intakes in western societies from the
    50        prevailing figure of about 40 per cent of energy towards 
    51        the 20 to 30 per cent figure", and you were starting to 
    52        say, I think, that that appeared to be somewhat 
    53        contradictory.  Then it was suggested that those
    54        recommendations about energy, about fat intake might be
    55        based on other health concerns.  If you look at annex 4; it
    56        should be page 184.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is 176 in mine.
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:   Yes, but the particular chart I want is page 184.

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