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     1        all be repeated.
     2
     3        We will bring him on a Monday.  We have already told him
     4        that it is best if he comes on a Monday and that he tries
     5        to keep as much of that week clear as he possibly can.
     6
     7        I say those things out of an apprehension for the court's
     8        time, as well as for my clients' time and money.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not prepared to mistrust Ms. Steel and
    11        Mr. Morris to the extent that I am going to assume that if
    12        he comes back they will just spend a lot of time
    13        cross-examining unnecessarily.  I very much hope that they
    14        do their best to keep their eye on the ball.  All I will
    15        say is that when he does come back, I may well not let him
    16        go, in so far as I have jurisdiction not to let him go,
    17        until he has completed his evidence.  It may be just too
    18        bad if that clashes with his business.
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:  Of course, I understand that.  One does not want
    21        to start talking about ne exeat regno, and all that kind of
    22        thing, of course not.  What I have just said is really
    23        through your Lordship.  I cannot address the Defendants
    24        directly, and have no wish to do so.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At this time of year, of all times of year,
    27        an element of goodwill is required on both sides.
    28        I suggest that we leave that there.  There are some
    29        elements to this case which are just impractical and one
    30        has to face that.
    31
    32        I rely on you, Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris, to get through the
    33        balance of your cross-examination as efficiently as you
    34        can, and I rely upon those representing the Plaintiffs to
    35        bring Dr. Gomez Gonzalez back as soon they can, with a
    36        generous allowance for time for the completion of his
    37        evidence.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  Brazil, which, thanks to the fortunate
    40        disclosure by the Plaintiffs of a relevant document, is now
    41        part of the case, and I think really we are entitled to
    42        general discovery relevant to the Brazil issue.
    43
    44        I do not know whether we should specify at this stage any
    45        limitation on that.  What we know exists -- because
    46        obviously we do not know what exists -- we do know there is
    47        a map in Brazil that identifies some kind of sources.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you should be as specific as you can
    50        be now.  You say that Brazil is an issue.  It might help if 
    51        you say what you see that as being.  Can we take the 
    52        80 tonnes, first of all? 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  There is the issue of the actual, in this
    55        country, receipts of Brazilian beef, when and how much.
    56        Also, it is clear in Lord Vesty's letter that McDonald's
    57        have made a special application for access to this quota
    58        and gained licences to do that.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us take it step by step.  So far as the

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