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1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What then did you want to do about
2 Mr. Mallinson? Have your two days preparation, if we run
3 to schedule, on Monday and Tuesday of next week; hear the
4 evidence of Mr. Gonzales and then, if need be, come back to
5 Mr. Mallinson who is on a discrete part of the packaging
6 case.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: We do not mean Mallinson, do we, my Lord, perhaps,
9 we mean Mr. Hopkins?
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I mean Mr. Hopkins, thank you.
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13 MR. MORRIS: I am not sure if Mr. Hopkins could make it. From
14 my recollection, he said that he might have been able to
15 make the 19th and 20th.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am not so much concerned about that. What
18 I am concerned about is since Mr. Hopkins is in a discrete
19 area of the case, he could come back at some stage in the
20 future rather than immediately. For all I know, he cannot
21 come back immediately anyway. So, what I am asking is
22 whether we could finish Mr. Van Erp, hopefully, tomorrow,
23 finish Mr. Oakley, hopefully, on Thursday, finish Ms. Dibb,
24 hopefully, on Friday, have Monday and Tuesday as your
25 preparation days for food poisoning and go to Mr. Fernando
26 Gomez Gonzales for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, or
27 starting on Wednesday morning.
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29 MR. RAMPTON: At the moment, my Lord, I have not dislodged my
30 Scottish academics on 19th and 20th either. If we managed
31 to finish Van Erp, Oakley and Dibb this week, then I see no
32 reason to defer Professor Jackson and Dr. Clark.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We might take stock of that at the end of
35 this week.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: They have to come down from Glasgow and they will
38 have to stay overnight.
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40 MR. MORRIS: Can I make a point, that I am getting a little bit
41 disturbed at the way things are developing because of the
42 tight schedule. We are having three or four or may be more
43 subjects sandwiched together. It is making it very, very
44 difficult to prepare. I would prefer if there are days
45 spare, Monday and Tuesday, 19th and 20th, to try to finish
46 someone off that is outstanding. Obviously, there is the
47 matter of outstanding legal matters as well which were
48 intended to be finished before the end, presumably, to
49 allow some time to see what happens in the following days.
50 But Mr. Gonzales, I was quite worried about Mr. Gonzales
51 because it is a new issue, about being prepared for him.
52 As far as I could see, I think the Scottish academics, as
53 they have been described ---
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55 MR. RAMPTON: Which is exactly what they are.
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57 MR. MORRIS: -- go into a great deal more detail on food
58 poisoning and hygiene documentation, I would think. I am a
59 little bit worried about the additional burden that would
60 be on top of Mr. Gonzales.
