Day 005 - 04 Jul 94 - Page 34
1 A. No, I do not accept that is so. An uncontested truism,
absolutely not.
2
Q. Do you accept it is the basic majority view amongst
3 scientists in their field?
A. No, I do not accept that.
4
Q. Do you accept, for example, your expert witness has stated
5 that CFCs and HCFCs are damaging to the ozone layer?
A. If he says so, he is certainly entitled to his
6 opinion, if they do a damage certainly. But that was not
your question. Your question related to "Do I accept that
7 all experts think this is the cause of problems to the
atmosphere?" I say categorically that I do not accept
8 that.
9 Q. Your witness states, does he not----
A. Where am I looking?
10
Q. We can go into the detail.
11 A. I would appreciate it if you show me what I am to look
at as to what he is saying. I would like to make sure I
12 have it in context.
13 Q. It is Professor Duxbury. Yellow 4, "Recycling and Waste".
To save time, if it were accepted that CFCs and HCFCs' --
14 if we go page 6 of tab 9, page 362, volume 4, the first
paragraph talks about CFCs amongst other blowing agents.
15 It says in the second sentence: "The first class have the
potential to contribute to ozone destruction" - that is
16 CFCs. Then in the second part it says HCFC's, "the main
blowing agent still used which belongs to class 1", which
17 is the CFC family, "is HCFC-22. Although in the early
assessments of its impact it was believed to be a suitable
18 replacement for the freons, [presumably CFCs] and was
omitted from the Montreal convention. This molecule has
19 subsequently been shown to be a major contributor to the
ozone loading of the troposphere etc."
20
The point I am making is, this is your witness and he is
21 saying, is he not, that HCFCs has "subsequently been shown
to be a major contributor to the ozone loading of the
22 troposphere and to be potentially as harmful as methyl
chloroform which is covered by the Montreal protocol."
23
Do you accept that CFCs and HCFCs are harmful to the ozone
24 layer?
A. The man says they could be, if released.
25
Q. Right. If we go to file number pink volume 4, tab 20 A.
26 Pink volume 4, tab 20 A.
A. OK. 20 A.
27
Q. 20 A, the second page?
28 A. I have it, yes, 489 B, is that the page?
29 Q. Yes. 489 B. We have a list of all countries where
McDonald's have restaurants, and does it not say on that
30 page that five of those countries are still using CFC
agents?
