Day 188 - 15 Nov 95 - Page 45


     
     1   Q.   Would you like to look, please, at page 18 of your notes,
     2        one which starts "Vox pops with crew"?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.  "Monday rap sessions.  Samantha West was in especially for
     6        the rap"; and then you write in your notes: "About
     7        15 minutes before rap was due to begin, Almaz and Michael
     8        were looking" -- and you said this morning you thought it
     9        was Michael who gave the order?
    10        A.  Yes.
    11
    12   Q.  "...were looking for people to attend it, because some of
    13        the people chosen by them had not come in especially for
    14        it.  Hammy volunteered.  Hammy is about to go on his first
    15        course as Floor Manager, but has not gone yet.  Almaz
    16        said, 'No, you have to make up your mind whether it was
    17        crew or manager.'"
    18
    19        Do you think it was Hamid you were referring to in your
    20        statement?
    21        A.  No, I think it was somebody else.  But, I mean, I would
    22        not -- I can remember generally some specific things with
    23        the crew, but I cannot remember at this stage exactly every
    24        name of which member of the crew did everything at every
    25        instant.
    26
    27   Q.   That is why I asked you to look at the notes, because it
    28        was nearer the time?
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   Q.   There is nothing in the note about any crew member being
    32        ordered to go to the rap session, is there?
    33        A.  Well, I think the implication is that, before it was
    34        due to start, Almaz and Michael were looking for people to
    35        attend.
    36
    37   Q.   I understand that.  But one way to do that is to ask for
    38        volunteers, it is not?
    39        A.  It is.  But, I mean, I recall very recall very clearly
    40        this crew member being told to attend the rap session.
    41
    42   Q.   But you did not write it in the note?
    43        A.  I did not write it in the notes at the time, or I did
    44        not write it in these notes which are here.  It is not to
    45        say that I did not write it in the notes at the time.
    46
    47   Q.   Finally, then -----
    48        A.  I would like to point out that these notes are what
    49        were left after three moves, after -- I mean, several years
    50        after the film had been made, or some time after the film 
    51        had been made, and after three moves of house, these were 
    52        the notes that I happen to have left.  They are not all the 
    53        notes that I took at the time and passed on to the
    54        producer.
    55
    56   Q.   I understand that.  As you probably know, we cannot make
    57        contact with the producer, Jane Gabriel.
    58        A.  I did not know that.
    59
    60   Q.   Finally, Miss Tobin, could you please turn to page 13 of

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