Day 091 - 17 Feb 95 - Page 34
1 Q. Has that included anything to do with feed stuffs?
2 A. Yes.
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4 Q. And antibiotics?
5 A. Well, you would not be sampling antibiotics.
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7 Q. No, but have they asked the antibiotics in the feed stuffs?
8 A. They would be aware anyway of what antibiotics are
9 available for use in feed stuffs.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you going to another article?
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13 MS. STEEL: I am just wondering whether I should do it or not,
14 whether I need to bother.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us break off there and continue at
17 2 o'clock.
18 (Luncheon Adjournment)
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20 MS. STEEL: There are other types of salmonella typhimurium, are
21 there, apart from that one mentioned in the article?
22 A. There are many different phage types as they are
23 called, yes.
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25 Q. Was there another type of salmonella typhimurium that you
26 were aware that there were a number of antibiotics which
27 were not effective against ----
28 A. At various times there have been reports of different
29 salmonella strains which have shown antibiotic resistance.
30 This has been recorded over the years, Salmonella,
31 Enteritidis, Typhimurium. One or two others have been
32 shown as recorded as showing antibiotic resistance.
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34 Q. That is to antibiotics that are the same as, or similar to,
35 ones used in farming and, in particular, in the poultry
36 industry?
37 A. By and large the therapeutic antibiotics are common to
38 man and animals.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What about the ones used as growth
41 promoters?
42 A. The growth promoter antibiotics are what we call
43 "non-therapeutic" and they are antibiotic by definition
44 because they are derived from a bacterial fermentation
45 product and that is really the definition.
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47 Q. Yes, I understand that, but the topic we are on here is
48 antibiotics in animals?
49 A. Yes.
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51 Q. Potentially affecting human resistance?
52 A. Yes.
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54 Q. I understand that if the therapeutic antibiotics are common
55 to man and animals?
56 A. Yes.
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58 Q. But that is why I asked about the growth promoters. Is
59 there some equivalent antibiotic, where, whatever has been
60 demonstrated or not demonstrated, in theory, it might
