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1 conference approved a protocol. The point was made this
morning that until the protocol, for example, in the
2 United Kingdom is laid before Parliament it actually has
no legal status.
3
Q. But the writing was on the wall as far as CFC production,
4 certainly from 30th April 1987?
5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, it is not ----
6 MR. MORRIS: It seemed to be.
7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- a freeze on CFC production which might be
thought to mean that there would be no more production.
8 From what is written there and what the provenance of the
information in the article is, I do not know, it is a
9 freeze on CFC production at 1986 levels?
A. Yes.
10
MR. MORRIS: Yes, but it was clear that there was worldwide
11 concern to take some action?
A. There had been worldwide concern ever since Farman's
12 measurement in the Antarctic were published.
13 Q. Which was in?
A. 1985.
14
Q. Just one further paragraph at the bottom of the second
15 column, the middle column "Prospects of international CFC
controls also raise grave concerns for US users.'If
16 enacted now, a ban or limit on CFCs could be a disaster
for our industry', McKirdy said at the SPI press
17 conference."
18 So, in your experience, I do not know how much contact you
have with industry, was the industry lobbying the
19 governmental and scientific establishments to protect its
production, right to produce?
20 A. To the best of my knowledge, none of the people who
were involved in the United Kingdom Stratospheric Ozone
21 Review Group were being lobbied to alter the testimony
that, effectively, formed the report. In other words,
22 they were using what was their best scientific judgment at
the time as to what was happening. That report was then
23 made to the United Kingdom government. It is then a
political decision of the government as to what use it
24 chooses to make of the scientific evidence available at
the time.
25
Q. But we have heard earlier on this morning that Dupont
26 scientists were pioneering research into HCFC, or CFC-22
as they then were, as a replacement. What kind of
27 influence do the scientists connected with the industry
have in the scientific community as a whole?
28
MR. JUSTICE BELL: We had better keep it specific, had we not,
29 because, presumably, it varies from industry to industry
and situation to situation.
30
MR. MORRIS: In particular process then.
