Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 66


     
     1   Q.   That said then, I ask you again, what is the foundation
     2        for the statement in your supplemental statement that
     3        there is a tragic tendency for young people to eat
     4        burgers, a growing tendency, I take it you mean, to eat
     5        burgers which is supported by this government report?
     6        A.  As I recall it, it is from the more general figures
     7        given.  The trouble is my comments on it were originally
     8        made on the comments on the draft report from the
     9        Department of Health which did not produce tables in the
    10        same formats.  I have always had trouble trying to
    11        understand their later tables.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Rampton, there is something I wish to
    14        ask ----
    15
    16   MS. STEEL:   Could I say something?
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  --- when Dr. Lobstein has had an opportunity
    19        to consider this question.
    20
    21   MS. STEEL:   It appears to me that Mr. Rampton is
    22        misinterpreting what is said in the statement.  It says "a
    23        tragic tendency for younger eaters to be eating larger
    24        quantities of fast food".  There are then examples, but
    25        that does not necessarily mean that -----
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can make that point, but one of the
    28        examples given is burgers, so Mr. Rampton is testing the
    29        evidence about that.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  I am after the answer to this question,
    32        Dr. Lobstein:  I would like to know why you picked out
    33        burgers as being two of what you might call the principal
    34        villains in this scenario, one of the two principal
    35        villains?
    36        A.  I think that was based on the Peckham study which said
    37        that the burgers were the most common thing eaten by those
    38        who ate a fast food every day.
    39
    40   Q.   What has happened is that you misattributed the authority
    41        of that statement?.
    42        A.  I am not sure I have, because the diets of British
    43        School Children draft figures gave two burgers a week
    44        eaten by 50 per cent of boys.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I must ask the question now because "burger"
    47        can mean two things to me.  It can mean a pattie in a bun
    48        or it can mean something which comes in packets of four or
    49        12 frozen, which is just the pattie itself, which it could
    50        be a beefburger, in other words, it could be a chicken 
    51        burger.  What I need to know is when you refer to 
    52        "burgers" in your statements, are you thinking of the 
    53        pattie complete with bun, or are you thinking of the round
    54        bit of compressed meat which one might put in one's own
    55        frying pan or under the grill at home?
    56        A.  I think ----
    57
    58   Q.   Then, secondly, when "burgers" are referred to on page 34
    59        what are they referring to?
    60        A.  I think in the Peckham study we are referring to the

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