Day 202 - 11 Jan 96 - Page 13


     
     1        of bit more vigour than someone who has been round in that
     2        position for three or four years. If things just seem to be
     3        going along fine, you go into a new position and tend to
     4        check and look into everything to make sure it is OK.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  It is a good way of proving yourself, is it not, by
     7        stamping on those below you?
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  It is -----
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  I am asking a sensible question.  It is quite
    12        reasonable.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If it was a question, rather than speaking in
    15        generalities, put that it was Neil Skehel trying to make an
    16        impression by stamping on people.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  Was Neil Skehel trying to make an impression by
    19        stamping on people below him to show what a good area
    20        Supervisor he was?
    21        A.  I would say absolutely not, because he would get no
    22        recognition whatsoever for stamping on people; not
    23        something that I would praise him for at all.
    24
    25   Q.   I might as well put it, while I am thinking of it.  Really,
    26        is it not, the whole management structure of McDonald's is:
    27        Stamp on people below you and crawl to people above you;
    28        would you not agree with that?
    29        A.  It could not be further from the truth at all.
    30        Absolutely not.  The culture of McDonald's is the other end
    31        of the spectrum to that:  it is built on mutual trust and
    32        respect; it is built on team work; it is built on pride.
    33
    34   Q.   People who are in the management of McDonald's, do they
    35        feel loyal to the Company that they work for?
    36        A.  I would say so, yes.
    37
    38   Q.   Including yourself?
    39        A.  I have worked for them for 13 years.  I would suggest
    40        I am quite loyal to the Company.
    41
    42   Q.   Is it more than just a job?  You feel a pride, and an
    43        identity even, in being part of that system?
    44        A.  I certainly feel proud to work for McDonald's, but, in
    45        the end, it is just a means of making a living to provide
    46        for my wife and family.  So, it is in that perspective that
    47        I view it a very good way of doing so.
    48
    49   Q.   You are dependent on McDonald's for your income, are you?
    50        A.  Indeed, yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   You say about working as a team -- I am talking about the 
    53        management as a whole.  Do people in management positions
    54        talk about a whole range of issues together, formally and
    55        informally?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   The meetings with Ray Coton -----
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a slightly different topic, so we will

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