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     1        A.  No, it is private property.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They will go down into someone's, I have to
     4        say, front basement at their peril, would they not?
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, and if it is outside the range of your
     7        patrols, however frequently they may be or the distance
     8        covered, there is nothing you can do about it, is there?
     9        A.  No.  You can go up to a limit where you can, but in
    10        private property every employee was restricted not to go
    11        into ----
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What you say is to some extent it is
    14        impracticable.  Even if you go around every half hour
    15        someone is bound to go and drop their clamshell two minutes
    16        after you walk past; someone else is going to drop it into
    17        a front basement area, and someone is going to drop it in
    18        the next street beyond the bounds of the walk.  Someone is
    19        going it to be upset about it.  The question, in so far as
    20        it is relevant to the case as a whole, is just how bad, if
    21        bad at all, was it in Chelsea?
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Then on page 776, back to the Nicholas Scott MP
    24        letter, it was clear, it says here, other concerns are the
    25        environment/index.html">litter in the middle of the paragraph, that Dr. Taylor was
    26        taking up environment/index.html">litter issues; although he did not take them up
    27        at that meeting with McDonald's, he was taking it up with
    28        his MP?
    29        A.  That letter I am not aware of because I was not sent a
    30        copy of it.
    31
    32   Q.   OK.  Did Paul Preston contact you having received this
    33        letter, do you remember?
    34        A.  Paul Preston never contacted me, but most of the time
    35        what happened is that we go through the hierarchy of the
    36        structure.
    37
    38   Q.   Then just for the record, on page 777 there is the reply
    39        from Mr. Preston to Nicholas Scott MP.  This meeting on
    40        778, the memo, this is another meeting, is it, in
    41        February?  So there was a meeting in February also, was
    42        there, at the store?  That is following -- sorry, I am
    43        getting really confused here.  Is it the same meeting that
    44        you attended before?  It is a different meeting.
    45        A.  The first meeting then must have been at the head
    46        office.  I am referring to one which was held at Kings
    47        Road.
    48
    49   Q.   Is that the one that is on 778, page 778?
    50        A.  I think this is a memo which was sent, yes, after the 
    51        meeting where all of us were present. 
    52 
    53   Q.   So, Dr. Taylor at that meeting did bring up about the
    54        environment/index.html">litter situation, yes, because on point two, "We agreed to
    55        look into and, if necessary, intensify the number of environment/index.html">litter
    56        patrols."  So it was on the agenda, yes?
    57        A.  As I recall it there was discussion on environment/index.html">litter but -----
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would be surprised if it did not because
    60        Mr. Scott mentioned environment/index.html">litter among the concerns on 12th

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