Day 122 - 05 May 95 - Page 46


     
     1   Q.  --  examined, if it was a continuing issue ---
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   Q.  -- enquiry, that would be recorded?
     5        A.  I would have thought so.  Bearing in mind I have not
     6        attended one of these Monday meetings.  They were started
     7        after I had become Ombudsman, so I do not attend that
     8        meeting deliberately, the Monday morning meeting.
     9
    10   Q.   That was the one -----
    11        A.  At that was Monday morning Executive, Monday afternoon
    12        Executive meeting.
    13
    14   Q.   Sorry, that is the one that is all 15 or 14 --- yes.
    15
    16   Q.  --  Executives?
    17        A.  Carmel Flatley is the facilitator, that is her title,
    18        facilitator of that meeting, and she may very well keep
    19        minutes for herself. Whether she distributes them or not, I
    20        do not know, I have never attended.
    21
    22   Q.   But the meeting of Executives for policy-making, that has
    23        been the policy-making body and form, has it, since you
    24        have been involved in the Company?
    25        A.  No, it changed.  We used to have an Executive meeting
    26        at that met maybe once every three months.  When we
    27        restructured the organisation, and I was appointed
    28        Ombudsman, it created this Executive -- started this
    29        Executive meeting on Monday afternoon.  I have never
    30        attended.  I am afraid I do not know how much of the
    31        meeting is recorded.
    32
    33   Q.   Before that there was a three-monthly Executive -----
    34        A.  There was nothing structured.  It did not have to be
    35        every three months -- as and when necessary, roughly about
    36        four meetings a year.
    37
    38   Q.   When there were those meetings because, presumably the
    39        time-scale, it had to concentrate on important matters, is
    40        that correct?
    41        A.  Yes.
    42
    43   Q.   What happens to the minutes of those three-monthly
    44        Executive meetings?  What happens to those?
    45        A.  I do not know.
    46
    47   Q.   They are kept on file?
    48        A.  I do not know about the minutes.  I do not know minutes
    49        were kept at those meetings.  There we used to discuss
    50        policy.  As a result of what we discussed the head of the 
    51        department responsible for the matter discussed would issue 
    52        a memo. 
    53
    54   Q.   So the policy-making body of McDonald's Restaurants Limited
    55        UK, certainly up to 1992, did not automatically keep
    56        minutes of its meetings?
    57        A.  No, they were quite informal.
    58
    59   Q.   They were informal meetings?
    60        A.  And if decisions were reached, then memos would be

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