Day 107 - 24 Mar 95 - Page 08


     
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     2   Q.   OK, we were refused it.  Did you have access to
     3        documentation?
     4        A.  I did not ask for documentation.
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     6   Q.   Again I think that was refused?
     7        A.  Again having been instructed by you it would not be
     8        provided in any case.
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    10   Q.   Did you talk to crew members?
    11        A.  No, I only spoke to the manager.
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    13   Q.   The manager was with you at all times?
    14        A.  Except for a few moments when he had other duties to
    15        attend to.  I was accompanied by the Health & Safety
    16        Officer throughout the period for McDonald's -- or one of
    17        them.
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    19   Q.   What, from Regional Office or something?
    20        A.  From Head Office, yes.
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    22   Q.   So you did not get a chance to talk to the staff about
    23        their concerns or operational views -----
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What does this matter?
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  I think it is relevant in terms of whether -----
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    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He said that he did not.  Why are you
    30        starting again?  That is what I am asking.
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    32   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  What food safety checks did you
    33        see?
    34        A.  I asked for the unit manager to demonstrate the routine
    35        calibration/temperature control on the burger operation.
    36        I looked at the equipment, I saw it demonstrated, and had
    37        explained to me the full procedure carried out.
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    39   Q.   Did you see any finished cooked product testing while you
    40        were there?
    41        A.  No.  Not carried out in the sense that -----
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    43   Q.   For example, internal temperature checks of burger or
    44        breaking open of burgers?
    45        A.  No, no, I was not there during the time during which
    46        that was carried out.  It was very much a dry
    47        demonstration, if you take my point.  I was shown how the
    48        equipment was used.
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    50   Q.   When you say it was a quiet period, were you informed about 
    51        whether during the busy period more staff would be present? 
    52        A.  I did ask about that.  I made marginal reference to it 
    53        earlier.  The situation described was that there are
    54        various sets of equipment, and they try to keep, try to
    55        keep the same rough rate of throughput through each set of
    56        equipment, so that if it gets busier they up and up new
    57        sets of equipment and put more staff on the line.  So, the
    58        staffing will vary virtually hour to hour to cope with
    59        fluctuations and demand.
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