Day 197 - 07 Dec 95 - Page 41
1 A. At the time of being asked this information, it was
2 some nine to 10 years ago. With no records in my
3 possession whatsoever, everything I was doing was by
4 memory, so dates and positions would as I can remember it
5 at the time I was asked. I have no way of verifying any
6 of that information other than from memory, but the facts
7 as I have stated happened. The position or the time might
8 be astray but the facts are true.
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10 Q. You recall that you said in your first statement that all
11 but one of them were sacked. Pilgrim, Claydon, Keo,
12 Jackson and Shafibeik -- which of them was the one that
13 was not sacked on a pretext?
14 A. I believe it was Shafibeik.
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16 Q. It is strange, is it not, that he was taken back on after
17 having been a member of this frightful group of disruptive
18 employees, do you not agree?
19 A. As it has already been stated, many people were taken
20 back on by myself or other Managers who had been dismissed
21 by other people, possibly because we did not agree with
22 what happened to them at the time.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What do you mean, "taken back on"?
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26 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Shafibeik, my Lord, says (and Mr. Coton has
27 confirmed it), that he came back after September 1984 and
28 worked another period about a year later.
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30 MS. STEEL: Can I just make an observation, which is that he
31 does not actually say in which period of his employment it
32 was that this MMF took place. Perhaps it is something we
33 ought to clarify here.
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35 MR. RAMPTON (To the witness): Do you agree that it looks,
36 according to Mr. Shafibeik (whose evidence you have
37 confirmed as being accurate), that he was taken back on
38 after September 1984 about a year later?
39 A. That could have been the case, but he was not ever
40 sacked, to my knowledge, for anything in the first place.
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42 Q. You say that Mr. Jackson was sacked, yes, Mr. Paul
43 Jackson, because of this activity?
44 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes, he was dismissed for
45 something relating to that incident.
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47 Q. Then I would like you to look, if you will -- we have made
48 copies for everybody -- at what you said about this
49 yesterday. I have taken these from the official
50 transcript. That is one for the witness and one for the
51 judge. I want to start, if I may, at the top of page 28
52 at near the top at line 8 where Mr. Morris embarks on
53 McDonald's Freedom Fighters:
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55 "Just going on to the McDonald's Freedom Fighters, can you
56 remember how it started?" Answer by Mr. Coton: "Yes, I
57 mean, it started as a bit of a joke one Bank Holiday when
58 there was a group of the lads -- I was there as well --
59 and we were actually drinking. It was a Bank Holiday
60 afternoon". "That was at a pub, was it?"
