Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 22


     
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     2   Q.   In 1992 they seem to have succeeded on average in exceeding
     3        that minimum by 21 per cent?
     4        A.  Yes.
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     6   Q.   Is that still the position?
     7        A.  I think it is a bit higher at the moment.  I think it
     8        is around 75 or 70, 75 per cent at the moment.  It might
     9        actually be even higher because I think in 1993 it was
    10        74/75 per cent, and I am not sure what it is currently.  A
    11        colleague of mine is currently preparing the same report
    12        which will be issued in January or February.
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    14   Q.   If you go back, please, to 7.3?
    15        A.  Yes.
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    17   Q.   The total weight of packaging used in 1992 was 29,734,908
    18        kilograms; is that right?
    19        A.  That is correct.
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    21   Q.   That is the figure in the little box at the edge of the
    22        right-hand side of the page; is that right?
    23        A.  Yes, it is.
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    25   Q.   I can tell you -- perhaps will you take it from me -- that
    26        the paper products, paper and board, paper laminated with
    27        polyethylene, paper laminated with wax, total 24,134,469
    28        kilograms?
    29        A.  I believe you, yes.
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    31   Q.   Which is something like 81 per cent of the total packaging
    32        weight; would that be about right?
    33        A.  Yes, it sounds right.
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    35   Q.   Whereas the use of polystyrene amounted to just under 17
    36        per cent of the total packaging weight.  Can I ask you this
    37        -- perhaps I should have asked you before -- if you
    38        compare a polystyrene clam shell with a paperboard clam
    39        shell made of top colour, which is the heavier?
    40        A.  The top colour clam shell.
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    42   Q.   Is it significantly heavier?
    43        A.  Quite significantly heavier; it is about 15 grammes of
    44        top colour material versus about five grammes polystyrene
    45        foam.
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    47   Q.   If you take the table at CVE 3, one has to add into these
    48        figures, does one not, the amount used for transport
    49        packaging which you do not have in these tables but we do
    50        have in CVE 3? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
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    53   Q.   My Lord, we can do the mathematics but if you add together
    54        the recycled fibres for transport packaging with virgin
    55        fibres for transport packaging, you get a total of
    56        2,414,265 kilograms?
    57        A.  Yes.
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    59   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry, what page?
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