Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 34


     
     1        A.  Naturally, yes.
     2
     3   Q.   In terms of common aims and common values, are you talking
     4        about a general, for example, concern about the
     5        environment, concern about welfare of animals, concern
     6        about employment conditions, or something like that?
     7        A.  Yes.
     8
     9   Q.   You are not talking about a specific issue; it is about a
    10        general concern for wanting to change the way that society
    11        was run?
    12        A.  The reason for this paragraph was because if one person
    13        had a specific hobbyhorse of, for example, anti-animal
    14        exploitation/rights, or something of that nature, they
    15        assumed that everyone else had a similar attitude towards
    16        it.
    17
    18   Q.   You cannot actually know what their assumption was, because
    19        you are assuming what their assumption was.  But in terms
    20        of how that was conveyed, that was because when they spoke
    21        out about the subject they were interested in, they did not
    22        ask other people whether or not they were interested in
    23        it?  That can be the only -----
    24        A.  It was just assumed that if somebody was interested in
    25        organising or wanting to talk about an animal rights
    26        subject, that they would talk to me and assume that I was
    27        also interested in the same subject.
    28
    29   Q.   So, this comment that you have put, then, is just based
    30        upon conversations with you; it was not on conversations
    31        within the whole group?
    32        A.  Yes.  It was conversations directed at me, and also the
    33        way people talked to each other within the group.
    34
    35   Q.   Because every time I ask you a question about how it
    36        happened with the whole group, you turn it back to
    37        conversations with you.  What I am saying is that someone
    38        who was particularly interested in a particular subject
    39        would start talking about that subject, without first going
    40        round the meeting to say, "Are you interested in hearing
    41        about this", and from that you then gained the impression
    42        that they assumed everybody was?
    43        A.  Yes; and, again I add, it was not specific to the
    44        meetings; people expressed the same attitudes at the
    45        meetings after -- the groupings in the pub after the
    46        meetings had taken place.
    47
    48   Q.   When they talked about this particular subject they were
    49        interested in, not everybody was going to participate; so,
    50        again, it appeared like they had just assumed that 
    51        everybody was interested? 
    52        A.  They naturally assumed, or they assumed naturally as 
    53        far as they were concerned, that the person to whom they
    54        were talking was also interested in the same subject.
    55
    56   Q.   But in terms of -- I am talking about, rather than
    57        individual conversations, the actual meetings.  When a
    58        person was talking about a specific subject, they would not
    59        go round the group first to find out whether everybody was
    60        interested in listening or becoming involved, or anything

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