Day 158 - 19 Jul 95 - Page 25
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2 MR. RAMPTON: That is right, my Lord. In fact, on my map it
3 actually has Tropic of Capricorn -----
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- the longitude lines, yes, I see that now.
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7 MR. RAMPTON: The one I am going to give your Lordship after
8 lunch has actually go it marked on. The tropic of Cancer,
9 of course, is much further north of the equator, so the
10 whole of this map is within the tropics.
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12 MR. MORRIS: The map that McDonald's seek to rely on has this
13 line as the crow flies around what they call the
14 "rain forest area". That can only have been deforested
15 rain forest because forests do not plant themselves in
16 straight lines. It is absolutely clear that a large
17 section of Mato Grosso was formally (and should be)
18 tropical rain forest by logical conclusion from their own
19 map, which would coincide with the Collins' indication.
20 But, obviously, evidence will be brought to this effect.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You say evidence will be brought to this
23 effect. That is what I am inviting you -- if you have
24 statements to that effect, you would do best to refer me to
25 them straightaway, would you not? Or are you saying that
26 you propose to serve statements to that effect or expand
27 your evidence to that effect?
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29 MR. MORRIS: If we come along to Mr. Monbiot's statement.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, refer me to that.
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33 MR. MORRIS: Do you have Mr. Monbiot's statement?
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Tell me where to find it. I have read all
36 the statements at some stage in the past but, as I have
37 said more than once, I cannot pretend to keep their
38 contents in my mind.
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40 MR. MORRIS: It is our statement. It is not a Civil Evidence
41 Act Notice so it would be in our rain forest statements.
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43 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is in 1C.
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is in my pale blue 1C in section G,
46 No. 3. Yes?
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48 MR. MORRIS: First of all, in the first part under his
49 "Expertise" on the first page of his statement, in the
50 second paragraph, he says he spent approximately two years
51 in Brazil investigating the causes of deforestation in the
52 Brazilian Amazon. Actually, I have not been able to speak
53 to him for an enormous long time so I have been trying to
54 get more maps and things like that off him.
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56 Then he says: "The Issue: Cattle ranching has been and
57 probably remains the greatest cause of deforestation in the
58 Brazilian Amazon. It is both a primary and a secondary
59 cause of deforestation: some forest is cleared for cattle
60 ranching when ranchers move in as the first arrivals on a
