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     1        USA is in the hands of secondary or even tertiary suppliers
     2        of McDonald's in Germany.  What documents the farmers who
     3        form the Raffeisen co-operative might have I know not, but
     4        it is no obligation of my clients to find out.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have ready to hand the Professor
     7        Doctor's reference?
     8
     9   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord.  He has made two statements.  He is
    10        at the moment I think not even a Civil Evidence Act
    11        statement because it is our intention to bring him over.
    12        He will need to be interpreted.  He is volume yellow XI,
    13        numbers 3 and 4.  They have, I think, been translated.  He
    14        is not a McDonald's person.  I think he is engaged by, not
    15        employed, the co-operative, not the meat suppliers, but I
    16        am not sure about that.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Those taken together with the ones you listed
    19        are all the matters I had on my 27, the remainder being
    20        ones where I had either heard you in reply or given some
    21        indication of what should happen, which I can repeat if
    22        necessary, or where a solution was in the pipeline.
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  I can deal with almost anything at short notice if
    25        required.  My Lord, if there is time this afternoon, which
    26        I believe there is, it is entirely a matter for Lordship,
    27        I would like the opportunity this afternoon to deal with
    28        the question of the Defendants' employment witnesses.
    29        I have some concrete things to say about them.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you want to reply to these matters which
    32        you are going to reply to?
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  If your Lordship would like me to I certainly can.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then if Mr. Morris wants my ruling on it
    37        I can go away and think about it and give it in due course.
    38
    39   MR. RAMPTON:  Certainly, my Lord.  Before I do that may I hand
    40        out what I thought I always had and I was for once in my
    41        life right about, a copy of the Bowes' brochure I had in
    42        the boot of my car.  I will give that to the Defendants to
    43        feast their eyes on over the weekend.
    44
    45        For the purposes of Oregon and Silver Spring in 1982 and
    46        1987 respectively, I ask your Lordship to look at (this is
    47        in the context of an application for discovery by the
    48        Defendants) volume yellow XII at tab 14.  My Lord, the
    49        allegation is at the top of page 4 of tab 5 of the abstract
    50        of pleadings; it is the first paragraph on the page.  It is 
    51        useful, in my submission, in the light of the application 
    52        for discovery in relation to this issue to see what is 
    53        alleged and then to compare it with what Mr. Rummel says in
    54        paragraph 3 of his statement.  That is Oregon.  Silver
    55        Spring is at the bottom of page 3 of the pleading and in
    56        paragraph 2 of Mr. Rummel's statement.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, the first thing to observe, and I do not

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