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1 face and you standing on the touch lines screaming,
2 'fucking collaborator'?
3 A. I don't know where you get these stories from, but they
4 are just not true. I have never seen Mr. Morris shake his
5 fists in anybody's face, least of all Mrs Brinley-Codd's,
6 and I have never shouted "you fucking collaborator" at Mrs
7 Brinley-Codd either.
8
9 Q. Right. Let us get on with these notes, Miss Steel. Pass
10 now, please, to page 68. Yes, 25th January 1990. These
11 are, I think, Mr. Pocklington's notes and he has written
12 down that Mr. Gravett -- this is in the first paragraph --
13 you, Andrew Clarke, John, Jonathan, Moe, Dave and Marion
14 were there. This is at 6 Endsleigh Street. But I do not
15 know whether the address is correct or not. Do you accept
16 that you were there?
17 A. 6 Endsleigh Street, yes.
18
19 Q. Have you got your answers to interrogatories there?
20 A. Yes.
21
22 Q. Can you please turn to interrogatory 29?
23 A. Yes.
24
25 Q. Question: "Did you not on 25th January 1990 attend an open
26 meeting by London Greenpeace at 5 Endsleigh Street, London
27 WC1?" Answer, "No"?
28 A. Yes.
29
30 Q. Is that an honest answer?
31 A. Yes. You have hit the nail right on the head. It says
32 5 Endsleigh Street. When we got advice about answering
33 these we were advised to answer, no, because we had not
34 been to any meetings at 5 Endsleigh Street.
35
36 Q. Did the people who advised you tell you the rule about
37 against swearing by the card; do you know what that means?
38 A. No.
39
40 Q. Being clever, clever, and saying, "You have got the wrong
41 address therefore I can give a clever answer, no".
42 Wouldn't the honest answer have been--
43 A. Nobody said anything to me about that.
44
45 Q. But think about it, never mind what the advice was, think
46 about it. Wouldn't the honest answer have been, "Yes, I
47 was at a meeting but you have got the address wrong"?
48 A. It is probably on a par with the sort of things that
49 your clients do when they answer about whether or not they
50 have got documents and whether they have -- as far as I was
51 concerned, this was legal advice that we were given that we
52 should answer, no, and, you know, if that is the way that
53 people in the legal profession normally do things, then why
54 is it up to me to say something different?
55
56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In my experience it is certainly not, you
57 see, but you say that is the advice you were given?
58 A. Yes. In my experience it is the way that people in the
59 legal -- obviously, I am not saying everybody, but the way
60 that people in the legal profession carry on because, for
