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1 in some areas are -----
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is exactly what he said in the last
4 paragraph on that page.
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6 MR. MORRIS: Yes. The point I am making is that a percentage on
7 top of the sheer cubic volume of wood which we have used in
8 these calculations would have to be added to take into
9 consideration, would you say that would be ----
10 A. That is a fair statement ---
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12 Q. Yes.
13 A. -- and it will vary.
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15 Q. Would you say something like 20 per cent would be
16 reasonable?
17 A. Yes, to give a reasonable example, the Forest
18 Enterprise when calculating the yield for the forest for
19 which it is responsible has to take into account any
20 revenue foregone because of all the kind of activities you
21 are talking about, but a yield class 12 in a forest managed
22 such as those in south Scotland and in northern England,
23 this is a reasonable figure of what it will actually
24 produce. We can find examples where it has been decided
25 not to bring all the forest into production and, therefore,
26 there are variations and, therefore, these figures are not
27 and cannot be absolutely accurate.
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29 Q. So would you say some kind of extra, say, 20 per cent or 30
30 per cent would take into consideration all those
31 other -----
32 A. Mr. Morris, I would be perfectly happy to take either
33 figure where it is relevant. It will depend entirely on
34 the processes, as I say, of silviculture in different
35 regions.
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37 Q. But something in the area -----
38 A. We would be reasonably happy between us to take either
39 10 or 20, I think, of revenue foregone because of
40 environmental considerations in the management of forests.
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42 Q. We cannot put trees on a river or anything. What I am
43 saying is there are inevitable areas that are not under
44 trees.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not forget we are dealing with areas which
47 are felled or thinned. You are not going to cut down
48 hectares of river surface or things like that.
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50 MR. MORRIS: That is the point I am making, that when we talk
51 about forest size that is needed to provide X volume, and
52 if we calculate the cubic volume on the basis of a standard
53 hectare, as Mr. Thompson has done and, as he says at the
54 end, "there also is an indeterminate amount of extra forest
55 area needed" on top of these calculations, then you think
56 something like 15 per cent would be a reasonable working
57 figure?
58 A. I think for the purposes that we are talking about
59 here, a figure of that nature would be very reasonable to
60 understand because he is drawing attention to this very
