Day 035 - 12 Oct 94 - Page 32
1 A. I must be in the wrong place.
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3 Q. 16 of part 2?
4 A. Thank you. I am with you.
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6 Q. Part 2, section 16. This, as I said, comes from a
7 magazine or journal called Cancer Research and Clinical
8 Oncology, published by the German company Springer Verlag,
9 1988. It is a guest editorial. If we look at the
10 asterisk, it takes us down to the bottom of the page and
11 we see this: "The 'Journal of Cancer Research and
12 Clinical Oncology' publishes in loose succession
13 'Editorials' and 'Guest Editorials' on current and/or
14 controversial problems in experimental and clinical
15 oncology. These contributions represent exclusively the
16 personal opinion of the author", and the author of this
17 particular piece, Dr. Barnard, is Sir Richard Doll who is
18 the Imperial Cancer Research Fund, and so on and so forth,
19 at Oxford.
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21 He writes an introduction about epidemiology and he says
22 -- perhaps I will read it by way of introduction:
23 "Epidemiology, like other branches of medical science,
24 advances for the most part slowly on a broad front.
25 Occasionally, however, observations are made that alter
26 our thinking about the way disease is produced, open up
27 qualitatively new methods for the control of disease, or
28 lead to such effective intervention that the results can
29 be seen in a change in the trend of mortality in a whole
30 country. Once such change in thinking" -- can I pause
31 there, Dr. Barnard, so that we know for the future whether
32 we are speaking the same language. By "intervention" do
33 you understand both preventative and therapeutic
34 intervention or only the latter?
35 A. Sorry, that word appears here?
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37 Q. The word "intervention", yes. "Such effective
38 intervention that the results can be seen in a change in
39 the trend of mortality in a whole country". Do you use
40 the word in both senses?
41 A. "Intervention" is a broad enough term that it could
42 include steps taken for prevention or to alter the course
43 of disease once it has manifested.
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45 MS. STEEL: The copy we have has "COPY" across it for some
46 reason, and it makes it really quite difficult to read
47 parts of it. I do not know whether there is another copy
48 available?
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is that on all the pages?
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52 MS. STEEL: Yes, it is.
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54 MR. MORRIS: It is on all the references in this file, or most
55 of them.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: That may be an error. The reason for it,
58 I suspect, is this, that so far as the Plaintiffs' own
59 documents are concerned, the word "COPY" was by leave or,
60 indeed, may have been a direction that Mr. Justice Drake
