Day 095 - 02 Mar 95 - Page 35
1 Q. But the size that they are, that is quite normal?
2 A. The size will change but that will give you an
3 indication, yes.
4
5 Q. Carry on please.
6
7 (The video recording continued).
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9 Q. If you could pause. Those methods of loading there, would
10 they be fairly typical?
11 A. No, absolutely not.
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13 Q. In what way?
14 A. They were not handled that way, that roughly.
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16 Q. They are being held upside-down which is what you said
17 happened?
18 A. Yes, but not in that manner. It even looks like the
19 film was speeded up.
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21 Q. Carry on, please.
22
23 (The video recording continued).
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25 Q. Could you pause please. The loading conditions -- I see
26 you are laughing.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just ask if you have seen anything like it.
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30 MS. STEEL: Is that typical?
31 A. No, absolutely not. It looks like a thing from the
32 1920s. In terms of facility, no.
33
34 Q. The goads, the use of goads is not unusual though?
35 A. No.
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37 Q. Nor the type of stick that that man was holding?
38 A. No. They do not use sticks like those. If they use
39 they use a prod.
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41 Q. They just use the electric prods?
42 A. What I have seen, yes.
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44 Q. Carry on, please.
45
46 (The video recording continued).
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48 Q. Just pause. The loading of cattle, there was not anything
49 unusual about that?
50 A. Yes, usual. The thing looks like it is 40 or 50 years
51 ago. That is not how it is done today and I have never
52 seen anything like that, absolutely not.
53
54 Q. But it was not filmed 40 or 50 years ago, but you think it
55 has changed over the last 10 or 15 years?
56 A. I do not know when it was filmed. The cattle loaded,
57 it is not like that. It goes one at a time.
58
59 Q. How long has that been the case?
60 A. As far as I can remember.
