Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 49


     
     1        Things were running a bit slowly.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:   There is a brief reference to this in one of your
     4        notes; but would you also agree that it was a general
     5        feature of the group that when a specific agenda item was
     6        being discussed, somebody would go through the history of
     7        that particular campaign, or whatever, so that everybody
     8        else who perhaps had never been to the group before or had
     9        not been to many meetings would know something of the
    10        background of the campaign and, therefore, be able to
    11        participate if they wanted to?
    12        A.  That was not always the case.  There was a certain,
    13        I suppose, level of assumed knowledge about certain
    14        issues.  However, it was also apparent that certain people
    15        had similar, maybe outside issues, maybe a similar
    16        Animal Rights group, and it would not necessarily be a
    17        single person who would voice an opinion on a single issue;
    18        it may be supported by other people also.  But I would say
    19        you did not always get the history of any particular
    20        campaign.
    21
    22   Q.   OK.  Not on every occasion, but generally speaking, would
    23        there be some kind of brief background given to what was
    24        being discussed?
    25        A.  I think it depended on who was present at the
    26        meetings.  If it was assumed that the people present were
    27        people who would know, then, no, it was not.  However,
    28        there were enough occasions when there were new people
    29        present that things would be explained to them.
    30
    31   MS. STEEL:  OK.  Thank you.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  Just going on from what Mr. Rampton asked you,
    34        before we go on to the actual details, you said you first
    35        saw the London Greenpeace fact sheet, if we can call it
    36        that -- when I say that, I mean that is the official
    37        description of it -- the leaflet complained of, at
    38        Caledonian Road office, or it may have been at the
    39        Endsleigh office?
    40        A.  It may even have been at the London Greenpeace fair.
    41        To be honest with you, it is a long time ago, and I do not
    42        really remember the chronology of the meetings.  I said
    43        I believed that, and then I was told that the Greenpeace
    44        fair actually occurred before my first meeting, before the
    45        Endsleigh Street meeting.  So it is quite possible that
    46        that was one of the leaflets there.  I do not really
    47        remember.
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:   When were you told that the Greenpeace fair
    50        actually occurred before your first meeting? 
    51        A.  As far as I am aware, from what I understand what from 
    52        was said this morning -- as I said, I do not personally 
    53        remember the actual chronology of the meetings and events
    54        I attended -- but from what I understand from what was said
    55        this morning, the first thing I went to was the
    56        Blackstock Road meeting and the second event I went to was
    57        the Greenpeace fair.  Without checking my notes, I do not
    58        know if that is true.
    59
    60   Q.   But you said you believed that what you said this morning

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