Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 51


     
     1        told me this.  He did not give me any details.  I do not
     2        know who he was told by this" are not what you told the
     3        solicitor, but the solicitor's record of, as it were, his
     4        or her impression of your state of knowledge; is that
     5        right?
     6        A.  It is very possibly true because the solicitors that
     7        I saw for the second statement just saw me literally for
     8        about half an hour to 45 minutes and they were not -- I got
     9        the impression that they were not as well informed as the
    10        previous solicitors.
    11
    12   Q.   I dare say.  Can you look at the last sentence where in the
    13        form I have it it says:  "His hours were cut and he was not
    14        promoted even though he should have been, and he left two
    15        months later."
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Who is the "he" -- is it you or is it somebody else?
    19        A.  No, it is certainly not me, no.  I was not that
    20        interested.
    21
    22   Q.   Did the solicitor make that up?
    23        A.  It is probably he is confusing it with something else.
    24
    25   Q.   You were telling the solicitor something you had heard
    26        about somebody else, were you not?
    27        A.  Yes.  I was telling the solicitor -- what I was telling
    28        the solicitor what I regarded as the truth and he might
    29        have confused the issue with another issue, and put them
    30        both together in the same sentence.
    31
    32   Q.   Am I right in thinking it was not you who was warning
    33        against collective activity but somebody who told you that
    34        he had been?
    35        A.  No, no.  The situation was this.  There were about four
    36        people, three or four people, in the grill area and
    37        specifically those people who were in the grill area, and
    38        they were feeling very cold, talked to each other and
    39        thought, you know:  "We cannot work under these conditions,
    40        so what we will do is to walk out and do not come back
    41        until the conditions have improved".
    42
    43        As a result of that, we were given T-shirts to wear under
    44        our clothes which improved the situation, but they were not
    45        actually -- we were still not happy with the conditions
    46        anyway.  Later on we were told, and I particularly remember
    47        we were not gathered in a corner in a meeting, but we were
    48        individually warned against collective activity separately.
    49
    50   Q.   You were only there, I think, for one day when you say the 
    51        temperature was too cold? 
    52        A.  That is right, yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   Can we now turn back -- I am afraid we are going to do a
    55        different thing now, Mr. Alimi -- to your first statement
    56        to page 4?
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have you finished checking where the
    59        information came from?
    60

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