Day 265 - 19 Jun 96 - Page 35
1 indirectly, are based on your notes?
2 A. To a large part, and my recollection.
3
4 Q. Yes. Looking at this page which is dated the 18th January,
5 1990, this is also apparently at 5 Caledonian Road. You
6 see the third line?
7 A. That is correct, yes.
8
9 Q. When you put a time like 22.23, probably that is?
10 A. 25.
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12 Q. At the top, is that the time of the meeting or the time of
13 the notes, or what?
14 A. I recall that would probably be the time I had made
15 the notes, following the meeting.
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17 Q. And it said that "not many attended this meeting although
18 there were some familiar faces. Andrew was present in the
19 beginning." 'A,' something I cannot...
20 A. "A guy turned up".
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22 Q. "A guy", sorry, turned up later from Leeds", and then Paul
23 is there and you say next page for "ex-refs." We will
24 come to that in a moment. Then there is a report of what
25 Paul was saying in relation to antiMcDonald's leaflets, and
26 so on. Just run your eye over that (pause) I am not going
27 to ask you about it, accept for one thing. Tell me when
28 you have finished reading that paragraph. It is quite hard
29 I know to read.
30 A. Yes.
31
32 Q. It says at the end of that paragraph, the last sentence,
33 talking about Paul: "Main activist and antiMac." Yes?
34 A. That is correct.
35
36 Q. Is that what he said to you or was that your impression?
37 If you don't remember do not say.
38 A. It would definitely have been my impression. As to
39 whether he particularly said it on that occasion I cannot
40 accurately recall.
41
42 Q. And then I do want to ask you about the next bit, which I
43 will read out. If I get your handwriting wrong, please
44 tell me. "Girl by the name of 'Ellen'. And then you put an
45 oblique.
46 A. I had heard the name and at that stage it was either
47 Ellen or Helen.
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49 Q. Yes, and then you put "see next page". "Also arrived".
50 "She seemed to take control. She also wrote the minutes
51 and the agenda. She ran the meeting. She seemed to know
52 about..." and then go over two pages, "a lot about the
53 group and most campaigns. She has also..."?
54 A. "She has a lot" , that is.
55
56 Q. "... has a lot of knowledge on all McDonald's activities".
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, I go from page with a 7 in the top
59 right-hand corner, numbered 60, to a page with an 8 in the
60 top left-hand corner which I have numbered 61.
