Day 253 - 21 May 96 - Page 34
1 aspects of lifestyle as a whole, one must not be looking at
2 individual components of the diet, because you can be very
3 misled by that. This accounts for the very many
4 inconsistencies that are pointed out in this diagram here;
5 that countries that have all of the risk factors to a much
6 greater extent than we have have a lower experience of
7 heart disease, so there must be some other explanation for
8 it, and the explanation, I think, is in lifestyle and in
9 the overall composition of the diet.
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11 The examples that keep coming up are of Spain and Greece,
12 who consume more fat than just about anybody else -- very
13 high fat intakes and a very low experience of cancer and
14 of coronary heart disease. There are other factors
15 involved, and they may well be dietary but there are also
16 factors that concern lifestyle.
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18 Q. These charts do not, for example, give us any figures for
19 average numbers of hours of exercise?
20 A. Nothing about exercise, which is a very important
21 aspect of lifestyle, and I am glad to say has been
22 addressed really for the first time in the report on
23 cardio-vascular disease. Yes, that is just one example in
24 the proportion of organisation, subjection to stress and
25 everyday life, and so on.
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27 Q. They do not say anything about alcohol either?
28 A. Nothing about alcohol here.
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30 Q. Thank you, Professor Naismith. My Lord, that is the end of
31 my re-examination.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Thank you, Professor Naismith. Just
34 leave everything there, please, and leave the witness box.
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36 (The witness withdrew)
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38 Are you prepared to continue to some extent with Mr.
39 Nicholson? What is it suggested is done next?
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41 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have nothing to offer except Mr.
42 Nicholson. I have not had a chance to digest that proposed
43 amendment about Brazil. My feeling was, when your Lordship
44 raised it the other day, that as an amendment, frankly,
45 I do not much mind one way or the other. But I would like
46 to have a chance to discuss it with Mrs. Brinley-Codd and
47 see whether we have any actual objection to what is here
48 pleaded, which I am afraid I have not digested. I have not
49 read Miss Branford's transcript either; I would like to do
50 that first, if I may. So, perhaps one could put that on
51 one side for the moment.
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53 MS. STEEL: I have brought most of my files for dealing with
54 Mr. Nicholson, so in theory I could carry on, but having
55 spent all the time preparing for Professor Naismith my
56 papers are not in very good order and I certainly would not
57 want to start before lunch.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would not call on you to start before 2
60 o'clock.
