Day 142 - 26 Jun 95 - Page 53
1 Q. But it would have been concerned with unions and there were
2 disputes with unions at that time in San Francisco?
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is Santa Barbra south of Los Angeles?
5 A. Yes, it is.
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7 Q. And Los Angeles is 400 miles from San Francisco?
8 A. At least that, my Lord.
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10 MS. STEEL: It is in the same State?
11 A. Yes. It is a pretty long State.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is a very different area?
14 A. Totally different. The setting my Lord was Mr. Kroc
15 had a ranch in Santa Barbra, California, and it had lodging
16 facilities and a meeting room facility and it was used by
17 the Company at that time for various business meetings.
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19 MS. STEEL: The meetings in Chicago, were they at the Head
20 Office?
21 A. Yes, they were. They were at the corporate office.
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23 Q. What were they about?
24 A. Similar kinds of things. McDonald's was just really
25 developing its Human Resource function and they would be
26 reviewing various matters that they were doing. There may
27 be some training involved as to again the National Labour
28 Reactions Act. There were things such as that.
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30 Q. So, amongst other things, they wanted your advice about how
31 to deal with unions?
32 A. They wanted my advice as to what the procedure and
33 process was. They did not have anyone in-house who had
34 that speciality. They did have fine other outside lawyers,
35 but they were looking for someone to work with them. There
36 were people in-house to make sure that they were doing what
37 they should be doing. I did not get into specific union
38 organising attempts or anything like that in those
39 meetings.
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41 Q. You mean individual attempts?
42 A. Individual attempts.
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44 Q. Just a general strategy on how to deal with unions?
45 A. A general strategy on what is required, the rights and
46 obligations, respective rights and obligations, of the
47 parties in these matters.
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49 Q. Was that part of the preparation of a report about unions?
50 A. To my knowledge no report ----
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52 Q. I think it was in 1973.
53 A. I took no part in preparing any report.
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55 Q. A McDonald's report about union ----
56 A. No, there was no report that I took part in.
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58 Q. Were you involved in any way in the preparation or filing
59 of a legal suit in January 1973 filed by Ray Kroc against
60 the Golden Gate Restaurant Association, the Hotel Employers
