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1 because, although people might leave, they tend to be the
2 people who were still on the basic rate who were leaving,
3 so that the percentage would not vary very much?
4 A. It is not necessarily the people who are on the basic
5 rate who would leave. It may be a student who is quite a
6 bit above the basic rate who has finished his college
7 course and gone off to pursue another career. So, it does
8 not necessarily follow that the people on the basic rate
9 are the people who would turnover.
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11 MR. MORRIS: No, what I am trying to say is that if you have 230
12 people on your books in a year -- say you have 100 staff
13 and you have a turnover rate of 130 to 140 per cent ---
14 A. OK.
15
16 Q. -- so you have something between 230 and 240 people on your
17 books in a year, yes, the people that are staying on a long
18 time with the Company, four or five years ---
19 A. Sure.
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21 Q. -- are not going to appear continuously in those figures as
22 the people who are leaving and coming back. They are not
23 going to appear in the turnover figures. But the people
24 that are leaving more regularly, the people actually on the
25 starting rate, the people that have been there less than
26 four and a half months, say, are going to be people that
27 are the bulk of the turnover figure.
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29 I am not putting myself very clearly, but do you see what
30 I am saying?
31 A. I think I see what you are saying. What I would say is
32 that whilst the turnover rate with the crew who are less
33 than four and a half months would be slightly higher than
34 the average, then the overall turnover rate occurs at all
35 stages and pay rates.
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37 Q. Yes, I know. May be if I express myself a bit better; if
38 you have 230 people on your books in a year, say, for
39 example, and something like approaching a quarter are on
40 the starting rate at any one time?
41 A. Right.
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43 Q. It would be a far greater percentage than a quarter of all
44 the staff that you had on your books in that year that
45 would have been at the starting rate while they worked at
46 McDonald's because, the far greater percentage of those 230
47 people will be the people that are coming and going less
48 than -----
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That may be so but you can only have 100 per
51 cent at any given moment. What he is giving is the
52 percentage of that 100 per cent at any given moment who are
53 on the starting rate.
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55 MR. MORRIS: But it may be a fact that the majority of
56 McDonald's employees, even by your own admission, in a
57 year, if not at any one moment, would have been on the
58 starting rate for most of the time they were at McDonald's?
59 A. Right. I think I see what you are trying to get at.
60 Your assumption assumes that the majority of turnover
