Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 71
1 A. They will have some problems that will increase, yes,
2 but you have to remember that the breeding stock where
3 those eggs come from, that will develop the chicks, go
4 through, they get to live more than a year. Now they do
5 have some, they will have some problems, yes.
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7 Q. Would McDonald's be able to make a decision that it wanted
8 Tysons to keep the birds until a year-old in the broiler
9 sheds, probably you have to have less density, or would it
10 just be impossible for that particular breed of bird to
11 live?
12 A. No, I do not want to speculate upon things that ----
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am not sure, quite candidly, whether it is
15 useful. The practice which is criticised, you say
16 justifiably, in the leaflet is a practice which does not
17 allow broilers, save for breeding stock which is not what
18 the leaflet is aiming at, living beyond six or seven weeks
19 anyway. So, quite apart from any comment you have got in
20 relation to killing them off at that stage, you have to
21 look at how they fair and in what conditions until that
22 age.
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24 MR. MORRIS: OK. I think we are nearly at the end.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Sit down, take a pause and get to the end of
27 a section and we will break off then.
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29 MR. MORRIS: There is one thing I wanted to get clarified. When
30 you said that two-and-a-half pounds of chicken flesh would
31 come off a broiler chicken, something like that.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Deboned meat.
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35 MR. MORRIS: Deboned, does that all go to McDonald's or does
36 some of that go -----
37 A. No, we only used the breast and the thigh meat. What
38 is called the "drum stick", the leg, goes to -- we sell it
39 normally to Japan with some of the other products, but for
40 McDonald's US we only use the thigh. The white meat which
41 is the breast sometimes we use the wings depending on the
42 promotions. It is not a year round product. The drum
43 sticks we sell them.
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45 Q. So of that two-and-a-half pounds, say, of deboned chicken
46 flesh, how much of that would McDonald's actually use,
47 would it be a pound, one-and-a-half pounds?
48 A. I am not sure because those changed throughout the
49 year, depending on promotions, depending on new products,
50 depending on export opportunities, so it is ------
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52 Q. Give us some rough figure because we need to have a rough
53 figure to calculate?
54 A. I cannot do it here on the stand. I need to go figure
55 out, work out the numbers.
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57 Q. If you take the drumsticks, that is both sides of the
58 chicken's legs, is it not?
59 A. Out of the drumstick there is 110, 135 grammes.
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