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1 after driving about two miles away.
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3 Now, that is his evidence. What it means is that what
4 appears in the notes in front of me is his evidence of what
5 he recalled happening at the meetings. So that is where we
6 start at and that is why it is important that you challenge
7 it, if there is a challenge to it.
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9 MR. MORRIS: Well, I assume that is not -- if all the notes are
10 evidence, then I am going to have to go through challenging
11 every meeting, but some of the ones that Mr. Rampton has
12 asked him specifically all about.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. He said in-chief, all the notes -- the
15 way -- you remember we had an interchange about this? He
16 said: "I have no reason to believe that any of the notes,"
17 which I took to be the notes which we had displayed, "are
18 substantially inaccurate."
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20 MS. STEEL: So we have got to challenge every single thing in
21 that?
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, which is another way of averring they
24 are the truth. You do not have to challenge him on
25 absolutely everything that is in there which you disagree
26 with. You have got to challenge him on things which you
27 consider are relevant to the issues in the case. That is,
28 so far as you are concerned, any participation. Anything
29 which might go to participation by you in publication of
30 the leaflet in question and therefore, anything which might
31 go as being evidence of participation by you in publication
32 of antiMcDonald's material generally, or antiMcDonald's
33 events generally and then the same applies to Ms. Steel.
34 Anything which might reflect on your motive, participation
35 in any such publication and anything which might, because
36 that may go to malice, and anything which might reflect on
37 the issue of alleged consent to publication.
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39 It is not difficult because you read the notes. I assume
40 you have read the notes. You will each know where there
41 are references to yourself which might associate you with
42 antiMcDonald's activities. That is the main thing. You
43 will each know whether there are references to things done
44 either by Mr. Claire or someone else who may be an inquiry
45 agent from which you would wish to argue by consent to
46 publication on behalf of the Plaintiffs. So that is what
47 you have to concentrate on, if you dispute it. A lot of
48 those instances at the moment, I do not know whether you
49 dispute it because it is not clear on the statements you
50 have served which are relatively short on this topic,
51 whether you dispute the specific matters, accept all the
52 specific matters or not.
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54 MR. MORRIS: If you go to your notes of that day.
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Page 87.
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58 MR. MORRIS: Please, 1390, you do not mention me saying about,
59 that I was absent looking after my female partner and my
60 child who had broken bones after an accident?
