Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 34


     
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     2   Q.   How high is the ramp above the ground?  Are the people
     3        standing on the ramp?
     4        A.  Probably about one metre.
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     6   Q.   And people would be standing on that ramp, would they, to
     7        load the lorry?
     8        A.  Yes.
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    10   Q.   Is the lorry kind of split in half and the cages either
    11        side that extend right to the middle of the lorry?
    12        A.  I do not remember the middle of the lorry.  They
    13        usually go by one side -- they are smaller trucks, so they
    14        go one side and then the other.
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    16   Q.   How narrow are these cages?
    17        A.  "Narrow" -- probably -- I do not know what you mean by
    18        that, but they are usually close to a metre.
    19
    20   Q.   Right.
    21        A.  In length, a little bit less.
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    23   Q.   They must put more than four chickens in those cages, must
    24        they not, otherwise it would be far more than three to five
    25        lorries?
    26        A.  Said about four.  That is what I said it could be.
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    28   Q.   It must be more; you would agree with that, surely?
    29        A.  It could be, yes.
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    31   Q.   How high are they stacked, the cages?
    32        A.  Probably six.
    33
    34   Q.   Six cages high?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   Are there any limits on the length of travel time for the
    38        chickens?
    39        A.  No, not that I am aware of.
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    41   Q.   How long is the average length of travel for McDonald's
    42        chickens?
    43        A.  Probably the average would be five miles.
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    45   Q.   The birds that are dead on arrival, what generally do they
    46        die from?
    47        A.  I have not seen the Tyson data.
    48
    49   Q.   You have not asked to look at the Tyson data?
    50        A.  No, I have not. 
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    52   Q.   You have not, right.  McDonald's have not asked you to look 
    53        at that?
    54        A.  No.
    55
    56   Q.   Is there anybody else in McDonald's who has made enquiries
    57        about that?
    58        A.  I do not know.
    59
    60   Q.   You do not know?

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