Day 058 - 30 Nov 94 - Page 14
1 feature here in his final paragraph, that you cannot just
2 work on a mathematical calculation, it is much more
3 complex.
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5 Q. Then we come to your specific figures. You have calculated
6 it on the basis of the original hectare -----
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Really, going from the penultimate paragraph,
9 having made the point on the last paragraph, logically one
10 goes next to that line on page 1 which starts "407.7
11 hectares" because that is the figure with which the
12 penultimate paragraph on page 3 ends.
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14 MR. MORRIS: Yes. So, the 1.57 square miles produces the 1,000
15 tonnes of pulpwood and then there will be some 15 per cent
16 amenities or space, river, or whatever, pathways, on top of
17 that?
18 A. Mmm.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can we pause there?
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22 MR. MORRIS: Sorry, when you say "Mmm", do you mean "yes"?
23 A. Yes.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Again might I suggest that it should be 1,000
26 tonnes of carton board?
27 A. Yes.
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29 Q. Because that is what the 1,000 tonnes was?
30 A. Yes.
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32 Q. In the next line 13,949 tonnes, it should again be carton
33 board, because that picks up the figure at the top of page
34 6 of your original statement which is the consumption of
35 packaging, not pulpwood, but consumption of packaging,
36 excluding recycled material?
37 A. You are absolutely correct, my Lord. I followed the
38 mistake Mr. Thompson made and I have repeated it here. It
39 should be "carton board".
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41 Q. I do not think it matters as long as we are aware of what
42 it should be.
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44 MR. MORRIS: Are you absolutely sure that is exactly what you
45 mean, pulpwood is carton board in those two points that
46 Mr. Justice Bell made?
47 A. Yes, Mr. Morris. Taking the original statement of
48 Mr. Donald Thompson ---
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50 Q. A Freudian slip?
51 A. -- and there he makes it very clear that he speaks of
52 1,000 tonnes of carton board.
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54 Q. So this 13,949 tonnes of packaging, which is on top of
55 page 6 of your statement, that McDonald's have told you
56 they use, yes?
57 A. That was the starting figure from which I have been
58 asked to work.
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60 Q. Yes, excluding recycled material?
