Day 085 - 08 Feb 95 - Page 41


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us have a look at that.  Can you give me
     2        the volume reference?
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   It is yellow VII.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  It is yellow VIII, Food Poisoning.
     7
     8   THE WITNESS:  Any particular page?
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which part of this?
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  We are on page 11.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where are the grill temperatures?
    15
    16   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, with respect, in relation to your
    17        Lordship's earlier ruling to that there is a difference
    18        between drawing your Lordship's attention to a passage in a
    19        document in order to answer questions which your Lordship
    20        was putting to Ms. Steel and involving the witness.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The witness is not involved at all.  I am
    23        just talking to Ms. Steel.
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord, he sought to intervene which is why I
    26        stood up.
    27
    28   THE WITNESS:  I apologise.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, just sit down for a moment.
    31
    32   THE WITNESS:  Is it possible to take a short break?
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, come back as soon as you are ready.
    35        Where do I find anything which helps me?  I am not
    36        suggesting it is not there.  I just want to know about
    37        grill plate temperatures.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  It is page 11 -- it is about the internal
    40        temperature of the patties.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that.  If we were looking at a
    43        sheet of paper which had internal temperatures of patties
    44        on it and testing those, I would not have asked the
    45        question in the way I did if, indeed, I would have asked a
    46        question at all.  But we are on grill area temperature,
    47        plate temperatures, at the moment.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  That has to relate to the final temperature of the
    50        patty. 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:  To be honest, I feel this is a bit unfair because 
    53        the Plaintiffs have put in a document ---
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just answer the question first.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  -- and if we are not allowed to ask questions to
    58        understand it, then it -----
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that, but I am not entirely

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