Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 63
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2 MR. MORRIS: I think with Dr. Gomez Gonzalez, unfortunately he
3 is the only person we can ask about animal welfare and
4 hygiene.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am well aware of the fact that he is the
7 person employed by McDonald's whom you can ask questions of
8 in relation to the practices in the United States and some
9 parts of the world in relation to animal welfare and to
10 some extent in relation to hygiene.
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12 MR. MORRIS: I think if I just ask one question on cattle which
13 is to save time. McDonald's does not have any policy that
14 is left up to the suppliers, you said that before, as far
15 as the slaughter techniques or conditions are concerned?
16 A. That is correct.
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18 Q. If we move on to hygiene, we could usefully look at the
19 Tysons' document. I have the numbers but I do not know
20 where they are. This was the 127 page Tysons report we got
21 from the US DA. I do not know if they were put in the
22 witness -----
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24 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Morris, constantly on the prowl for
25 co-operation, has given a list of where all these documents
26 are to be found. My Lord, it is in Defendants'
27 supplementary documents bundle V.
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29 MR. MORRIS: It should be at the front of the bundle. It should
30 be 127 or something pages of sanitation.
31 A. I think I have it.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When you say "supplementary five" ----
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35 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, the witness's version of that is right at
36 the back behind the Defendants' documents.
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38 MR. MORRIS: Do you want to turn to page 58, please?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. This is a sample document here. Have you seen these kinds
42 of documents before?
43 A. Yes, I have.
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45 Q. This is the US DA monitoring of process plants, yes?
46 A. That is correct.
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48 Q. I think we looked at it briefly when Mr. Rampton was
49 questioning you?
50 A. That is correct.
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52 Q. If we just look at the top row of inspection tasks, it
53 says: "Scheduled", "Unscheduled", Performed" it is the
54 "Performed" column that is the actual number of tests
55 done, is it?
56 A. That is correct.
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58 Q. Then it says: "Total minor", "Total major", "Total
59 critical"". These are lapses in procedures, are they, and
60 whether they are minor, major or critical?
