Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 67
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2 Q. Do you remember was he both? Did he transfer from one to
3 the other while you were at the store?
4 A. As far as I know he was a Floor Manager, but now
5 looking back I considered he was actually carrying out the
6 duties of Manager, proper Manager, because he was in charge
7 of shifts, he was running shifts. So he was actually --
8 what I am saying is that his job title was Floor Manager,
9 but, as far as we were concerned, he was the Manager on the
10 shift when he was running it.
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12 Q. He had authority of the shift?
13 A. The authority, yes.
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15 Q. The Manager you referred to, I cannot remember his name
16 now, the one with the Italian sounding name?
17 A. Daniel Rizzardini.
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19 Q. His position was what?
20 A. He was a trainee Manager and then he became Second
21 Assistant Manager.
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23 Q. How often did you speak to him about things?
24 A. Quite frequently because he was the only Manager
25 I actually socialised with outside the work time.
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27 Q. What you say in your statement about the Manager, was there
28 anything contradicted by him when you would talk to him?
29 A. No. I mean, if anything, I think he would tell you, he
30 would give you the picture I have depicted there. He would
31 give you a lot more than what is in my statement. I mean,
32 his whole attitude, I believe it took him a long time to
33 move from trainee management into a proper management
34 position because he was not, he was reluctant to comply
35 with certain aspects of his work which he regarded as
36 unfair, like sending people home because of their
37 appearance, sending people home because, you know, the
38 store does not seem to be as busy as they expected.
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40 Q. So when you give an impression of management, you say, for
41 example, on page 7, "Management would also cut the number
42 of scheduled works hours of anyone who refused to do the
43 extra hours on late shift," etc.
44 A. Yes.
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46 Q. That collective impression, would that include
47 conversations with Daniel Rizzardini?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. That applies to any time you use the word "management",
51 does it?
52 A. Yes, it is collective authority I am referring to.
53 That is right. When I am generally talking about
54 management, as another aspect to it, I did want to say a
55 specifically this and that and that and that Manager did
56 it, because generally any Manager who was in charge would
57 have done it.
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59 Q. The same thing?
60 A. The same thing, so I refer to it as management.
