Day 190 - 23 Nov 95 - Page 35
1 that, if my submission is correct.
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3 One notices the plural "stores", if one needs any further
4 clue as to what nature these interviews had when they were
5 conducted.
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I notice, I assume it is the solicitor has
8 put, "by what criteria", which, in any event, it might not
9 carry any weight, because one just does not know what it
10 means, "understaffed".
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12 MR. RAMPTON: No. But, in any event, it is hearsay on its face;
13 and, for the reasons which I have submitted, it cannot be
14 adduced as an admission by McDonald's.
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16 My Lord, then the next one, I think, is on page 5,
17 paragraph 4. So I am taking that to be the one "SP and HL
18 produced", if I have understood Mr. Morris' system.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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22 MR. RAMPTON: Again, I do not have any objection to that.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you.
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26 MR. RAMPTON: If I have the right paragraph. The next one is
27 page 8, which again I take to be, because the first one is
28 a nought -----
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think it starts from "SP pointed out" and
31 goes to the end of that paragraph, at the top of the page.
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33 MR. RAMPTON: Those are remarks by Steve Percy, not by
34 Harriet Lamb. So I do not see how we can possibly have
35 those. He is not a witness.
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37 MR. MORRIS: It is about the employee that worked in
38 Harriet Lamb's store. So that is the reason.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: I realised that. But one sees later on, when one
41 gets to it, that Harriet Lamb's information about this
42 comes from Steve Percy.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The position would be, if Mr. Morris embarked
45 on that with Ms. Lamb, one would have to see what her
46 answers were as to what her source of information was,
47 before one judged whether she should get any information.
48 You may be quite right. It looks as if it comes from him,
49 but one would have to wait and see finally.
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51 MR. RAMPTON: I mean, of course, I agree there are areas where
52 one is not clear. But this one, I think, is, because
53 I think it is -----
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is page 10.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, it is page 10.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The first complete paragraph.
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