Day 245 - 07 May 96 - Page 75


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness):  You have seen this leaflet
     2        before, this is an A5 two-sided leaflet?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   You have seen this before, and at the top it has "Outside
     6        Harlow" -- I cannot read the next word -- "25th June '94".
     7        A.  It is very faint; I cannot read it.
     8
     9   Q.   This is one of your documents.  If you note on the second
    10        side, it says, "McLibel trial starts Monday, 27th June" at
    11        the bottom, yes?  So this was on the eve of the trial?
    12        A.  I am sorry, you are looking where?
    13
    14   Q.   Look to the second side; it has at the bottom, "McLibel
    15        trial starts on"?
    16        A.  27th June, yes.
    17
    18   Q.   So that seems to be the leaflet that was being circulated
    19        on the eve of the trial around the same time the press
    20        statements were issued, yes, that you issued your press
    21        statements, yes?
    22        A.  It could be.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is after that, is it not?
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  It is after that.  I will continue to read:  "The
    27        leaflets which you circulate at your store continue to be
    28        circulated to all our customers" -- leaflets continue to be
    29        -----
    30        A.  I think so, yes.
    31
    32   Q.   Yes.  This leaflet in front of you, is that the one that
    33        generally gets handed out on the streets around this
    34        country from your knowledge of looking at the bundles of
    35        what has been handed in from different stores?
    36        A.  Well, it certainly was handed out.  Is it generally?
    37        I do not know.  I do not know how to categorize that.
    38
    39   Q.   Let us just say it was then.  Can you find a single
    40        sentence there in that leaflet on the issues that are in
    41        involved in this case that is not -- that is either untrue
    42        -- sorry, that is untrue and not fair comment?
    43        A.  Well, I have not read the whole thing in detail; I am
    44        not a scientist.  I cannot tell you much about methane, for
    45        example.  As to whether our packaging is unnecessary, I
    46        would dispute that.  I think we use just what is necessary;
    47        no more.  But I think people are entitled to make comment,
    48        sure.
    49
    50   Q.   Is there anything in there which you know as a fact is 
    51        untrue? 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where are we going again now, because -----
    54
    55   MR. MORRIS:  It is because just in -----
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is not helpful to ask an individual person
    58        if he knows it is untrue.  I have heard a lot of evidence
    59        and I am going to have to decide whether it is true or
    60        untrue.

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