Day 307 - 27 Nov 96 - Page 47


     
     1        I set out what I thought the principles of law were, in my
     2        view, to be applied?
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   All the legal things have been -- well, same as
     5        everything, actually, it is pretty chaotic.  We have some
     6        lawyers who have been trying to look up individual matters
     7        of law, and some of them we have had bits and pieces back
     8        from that we need to discuss with them for finalising, you
     9        know, the document or whatever.  Others we have not had
    10        anything back from them and we have to do some chasing up,
    11        and it is not particularly easy to chase people up when
    12        they are out on other court cases.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Leave it there.  Our plan is that you are
    15        going to be sitting down in the middle of tomorrow.  You
    16        obviously have to read what Mr. Rampton provides you and
    17        you have to listen to what he says, but to some extent the
    18        pressure is off you because you are not going to have to
    19        stand up each morning and carry on with your own
    20        arguments.  But you really must use that time to get any
    21        propositions of law which differ from those which
    22        Mr. Rampton has put forward -- or go beyond those which are
    23        put forward -- word-processed preferably, so that you can
    24        put them before me expeditiously and I can take them away
    25        with me.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:   That is what we were hoping to do, set them all out
    28        in documents and maybe refer to each one for five minutes
    29        at the most, or something like that.  Obviously, if more
    30        explanation was needed or you wanted to ask questions,
    31        whatever, that might take longer, but the intention was not
    32        to do them all verbally.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  Carry on now with -----
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:   Can I say one other thing?  You did originally say
    37        that you expected, because Mr. Rampton was not going to
    38        take so long, that we would have something like three or so
    39        days after he served the things to read.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I don't know, I will just have to wait to
    42        see.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:   All I am saying is, we had kind of prepared to
    45        meet up with each other at the beginning of next week,
    46        Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, if those dates were going to be
    47        off court, to kind of review where we are and what we still
    48        have to do, all that kind of stuff.  I don't know if that
    49        is still-----
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   At least I am going to ask Mr. Rampton a 
    52        significant number of questions.  I am expecting him to be 
    53        on his feet in court really all next week, and the question
    54        mark is how much longer and after that is he going to be on
    55        his feet?
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:   I thought you said that when he handed in his
    58        submissions you wanted a few days off to read it.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   The plan is, as I expressly said, was that

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