Day 277 - 10 Jul 96 - Page 49


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  I am not sure we can.
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It has got the same registration number.
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     5   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord, I can see the front--
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     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is quite right.  Yes.  Just coming
     8        and going.  That is quite right, yes.
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    10   MR. RAMPTON:  Then turn over the page, please, Miss Steel to
    11        photograph 9?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   Q.   This is a slightly different message but ultimately it may
    15        be the same placard saying "Save the forests, smash
    16        McDonald's"; is that right?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   Now, there you are at the head of that procession.  It was
    20        a protest march, presumably, against the proceedings in
    21        this case in large part was it not?
    22        A.  It was a protest march against McDonald's and their
    23        attempts to silence their critics.
    24
    25   Q.   And do you disassociate yourself from the sentiment "smash
    26        McDonald's"?
    27        A.  I would like to see a world without multinationals, and
    28        that includes McDonald's.
    29
    30   Q.   Now, I would like to turn, if I may please, to some of the
    31        meetings that you attended in 1989 and 1990.  For that
    32        purpose you will need the--
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have a problem with the suggestion
    35        which Mr. Rampton has put to you on a number of occasions
    36        about smashing McDonald's?
    37        A.  I think--
    38
    39   Q.   Are you agreeing you would like to see a world without
    40        multinationals, including McDonald's; what is the
    41        distinction in your mind?
    42        A.  I think it is because I have just got this feeling that
    43        Mr. Rampton is going to try and make out that it means some
    44        kind of violent activity that is all, whereas that is not
    45        what it means.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  No, I am not suggesting that, my Lord, never
    48        have.  No need to be afraid of that, Miss Steel.  I take
    49        'smash' to be used in its metaphorical sense, destroy,
    50        remove from the surface of the world so that it no longer
    51        exists as a successful multinational company?
    52        A.  I would like McDonald's to be removed from the surface
    53        of the earth in common with all multinationals which are
    54        exploiting the earth, causing it damage, exploiting the
    55        people that live on it, murdering animals, and so on.
    56
    57   Q.   And you really would not--
    58        A.  Because I would like to see a world without
    59        exploitation and oppression.
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