Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 16
1 shells, you print a varnish on to it, so that the bun, the
2 food, does not stick to the carton.
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4 Q. Then we see that the first piece of sandwich proper is 70
5 per cent of post-industrial recycled -- I am only going
6 slowly because I am finding it difficult to read -- and 30
7 per cent virgin material, is that right -- can you read
8 yours?
9 A. Sorry, yes.
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11 Q. Top liner of 50 grammes?
12 A. Yes.
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14 Q. Then the inner layer is 100 per cent post-industrial
15 recycled material, yes?
16 A. Yes.
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18 Q. Then the bottom liner is the same as the top liner, is it
19 not?
20 A. Yes.
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22 Q. The same weight, the same proportions?
23 A. Yes.
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25 Q. While we have that in front of us -----
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I had assumed, Mr. Rampton -- perhaps
28 I should be told if I was wrong -- that the thicker clay
29 coating was because that is the side which would come into
30 contact with the food, because under that it is more
31 recycled material than virgin, the next layer. I can see
32 that on the outside you need clay coating as well for
33 printability.
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35 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship can say that, of course, I cannot.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I know. Might that be the reason why it
38 is not only clay coated by five times as thick?
39 A. To my understanding, that is exactly the reason.
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41 MR. RAMPTON: While we have this open in front of us, we notice
42 the recycled paper, wood fibre used in this particular
43 product is post-industrial?
44 A. Yes.
45
46 Q. I do not know that you have exact figures in your head or
47 anything like that. Are you able to give his Lordship in
48 the broadest possible way any kind of a proportion for
49 McDonald's use of recycled fibre in Europe generally, any
50 kind of a proportion between the use of post-industrial and
51 post-consumer waste?
52 A. It would be a complete guess; I can mention some of the
53 products which are.
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55 Q. That might be helpful.
56 A. OK. The main product that was made of recycled paper
57 is napkins. They are made mainly of post-consumer recycled
58 waste. Another big product which is made of recycled
59 material are the carry-out bags. Here in the UK the
60 recycled part of that is mainly post-consumer recycled
