Day 118 - 01 May 95 - Page 53
1 thought to concealing any kind of system regarding hours
2 worked.
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4 MS. STEEL: Whether or not you are on fortnightly pay you could
5 quite easily print out weekly, and the fact you do not
6 print out the weekly hours worked is a deliberate way of
7 avoiding ---
8 A. No.
9
10 Q. -- finding out how frequently it goes on?
11 A. If that is your question my answer is no. That is not
12 the reason we do it.
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14 MR. MORRIS: Maybe we will move on to another. The labour
15 percentages, can you turn to the Management Development
16 Programme? It is tab 15 in one of the files. I am not
17 sure which one it is in.
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19 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is pink XII.
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21 MR. MORRIS: If you can turn to tab 15 page 595, you can see
22 here -- this is how managers are trained, is it? This is
23 the training guide for managers?
24 A. Yes.
25
26 Q. So this is compulsory training for every manager in the
27 McDonald's system in the UK, is that correct?
28 A. Well this particular one is compulsory training for
29 first assistants.
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31 Q. For first assistants, I am sorry.
32 A. Yes.
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34 Q. Is that because they do scheduling of hours?
35 A. I would have thought so.
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37 Q. If we turn over to page 596, paragraph "Pay for
38 performance"?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. "If you are paying someone £5 an hour are you getting £5
42 worth of work or service from that individual? Are you
43 getting more or less. An individual's rate of pay should
44 reflect their dependability, versatility, experience and
45 ability". You have said -- you have said or Paul Preston
46 has said -- that people at McDonald's work very hard. Is
47 that correct? Do you believe that, that people at
48 McDonald's work very hard?
49 A. Yes, I think so.
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51 Q. The crew?
52 A. Everyone.
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54 Q. But the crew only get around about the minimum wage, plus a
55 few bits and pieces?
56 A. No. No the crew in the provinces start round about
57 the minimum wage.
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59 Q. We have heard a lot of evidence on that. Whatever they
60 get, the fact is you are not paid at McDonald's are you,
