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     1        they?
     2        A.  No, no.  It will be done one at a time and shackled and
     3        go away, but the norm is one or two.
     4
     5   MR. RAMPTON:  Why would it be one instead of more than one which
     6        I think you told us you prefer to have more than one at a
     7        time because it is for the comfort factor?
     8        A.  Because when you are droving the pigs into the pen,
     9        there is no point in trying to force two or three in; if
    10        one would go in, if two or three will gently walk in, that
    11        is the method.
    12
    13   Q.   So you are not going to force two more in ---
    14        A.  Not for the sake of it, no.
    15
    16   Q.  -- If they do not want to go?  I want to ask you about the
    17        stunning current that you use at G.D. Bowes & Sons.  As you
    18        will have noticed, Dr. Gregory made a calculation based on
    19        the assumption that the impedance or resistance in a pig's
    20        head was 300 ohms, and he knew that your voltage was 134.
    21        He divided 300 into 134 and got a figure, according to ohms
    22        law, of about .45 of an amp, is that or is it not accurate?
    23        A.  The calculation is.
    24
    25   Q.   No, no, I am not talking about arithmetic; I am talking
    26        about the fact?
    27        A.  The fact is that we have done, as a company, quite a
    28        lot of work in this area and, as previously stated, water
    29        on the pig, on the pig's head, is ultra-important, we
    30        believe, for the conductivity of electricity.  We have
    31        worked with the Meat and Livestock Commission and various
    32        companies in trying to measure and assess what is
    33        effective.  The work that we have done with the Meat and
    34        Livestock Commission shows that approximately the current
    35        going through the pig is approximately 1.1 to 1.4 through
    36        the ramp.
    37
    38   Q.   My Lord, I have just been given, which as one can see from
    39        the fax date on it came down from Bowes of Norfolk to
    40        Barlow Lyde Gilbert at 10.42 this morning, some sheets of
    41        paper.  I will not say anything about them.  I will give
    42        some to the Defendants and to your Lordship.  I will get
    43        Mr. Bowes just to have a look at them.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, very well.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  I can come back to them.  I just want him to say
    48        what they are.  Then I will come back to them very briefly
    49        (because I ought almost to finish by the adjournment) at
    50        five past two or something like. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Anyway, you want Mr. Bowes to identify 
    53        them before you go away and people have an opportunity to
    54        look at them?
    55
    56   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, so that the Defendants know what it is that
    57        he is going to refer to.  I make no apology for this, my
    58        Lord, because they are not McDonald's documents.  I did not
    59        know of their existence until this morning.
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