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1 ask you about that. Then you write this: "Government
2 figures show a tragic tendency" (one can argue about
3 tragedy until the cows come and I do not ask you about) "a
4 tendency for younger eaters to be eating large quantities
5 of fastfood such as burgers and french fries". You give
6 as the authority for that proposition the Department of
7 Health or the COMA publication we looked at earlier today,
8 do you not?
9 A. Yes.
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11 Q. What puzzles me about that statement of yours is this,
12 Dr. Lobstein. I have looked at it quite carefully now,
13 though I have not had more than a few hours to do so.
14 I have also now had an opportunity of looking at the
15 tables at the back of it. I cannot find in this document
16 any support for the statement that there is a tragic
17 tendency or a tendency for younger eaters to be eating
18 large quantities of burgers. I find plenty of reference
19 to what the Department in this country calls "chips", but
20 I cannot find where you support the statement about
21 burgers. Do you have a copy of the whole thing?
22 A. I do not know if any of the tables that refer to
23 foods. Burgers come in after sausages and other offals.
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25 Q. Tables 50 and 56 -- I do not know if your Lordship has
26 that?
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I have not, but carry on now and I would
29 like a photocopy, so when I come back to the transcript I
30 can take the point.
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32 MR. RAMPTON: Tables 50 and 56. 50 is food consumed by boys
33 aged 14, 15 years on page 179, running through to page
34 185, does it not? Table 56, which is food consumed by
35 girls of the same age groups, starts on page 217 and runs
36 through to page 223. Right?
37 A. Yes.
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39 Q. You will see -- let us go back to the beginning of table
40 50 on page 179 -- there are under the main heading "type
41 of lunch" we find sub-columns: "Paid school meal, free
42 school meal, paid school meal, free school meal, home,
43 packed lunch, home, cafe"?
44 A. We do.
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46 Q. If you turn back in the text, please, to page 34,
47 paragraph 9.5.6, this is dietary pattern for boys of the
48 14/15 age group. "Type of lunch consumed during the school
49 week did not markedly influence dietary patterns, table
50 50. As with the younger children, the older boys who took
51 a packed lunch to school had the highest consumption of
52 bread, biscuits, crisps, other vegetables and apples.
53 There were 68 older boys who ate out of school at cafes,
54 take-away and fast food outlets. These boys were eating a
55 self-selected meal at weekday lunch times, and they ate
56 the most eggs, other meat products, chocolate and colas."
57 There is no reference to burgers there in that paragraph,
58 is there?
59 A. Not for the boys, only for the girls.
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