Day 259 - 10 Jun 96 - Page 51
1 looked at?
2 A. No, I certainly cannot, no.
3
4 Q. Right. OK. What specifically did he look into on one of
5 these visits?
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you remember?
8 A. Well, he looked to make sure that the correct rate of
9 pay was being adhered to for the age or the level of the
10 crew member and that we were adhering to the minimum rates
11 at that time.
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13 MR. MORRIS: To do that, he would have to look at specific
14 things, check the hours worked, check the age of the
15 employee, check the timings the person worked, check
16 whether they were getting the social, anti-social increase?
17 A. It was not difficult. All the information was there
18 for him within the office. It was not a difficult job for
19 him to do.
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21 Q. But he had to check all those things for a dozen
22 employees,? When he looked at crew, he looked at about a
23 dozen crew members, did he, or more than that?
24 A. No, I would not have said more than that; possibly
25 about a dozen.
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27 Q. Yes, a dozen. Was checking overtime part of your
28 responsibility?
29 A. No. I have already said it was not.
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31 Q. If you looked at a chart, would you be able to look at that
32 chart and say fairly easily, in your expertise, when you
33 are chatting with Mr. Mills, "Oh, yes, it looks like there
34 is a bit of a discrepancy there. This person worked
35 43 hours and only", whatever -----
36 A. If I had been asked to at that time, I would have been
37 able to, but it was not my specific role to do so.
38
39 Q. So, it was not your specific area, but did you have an
40 overall grasp of what the laws were on overtime,
41 specifically?
42 A. I had an overall grasp as to the company policy and
43 company procedure, yes.
44
45 Q. Company policy was not that people should not work over
46 39 hours; and the Company did not pay overtime, did it?
47 A. Again, it was not my area. My area was on the tax
48 side, the calculation of the wages, right through to the
49 net pay. There were other people who were responsible for
50 making sure that people, if they should not work over
51 39 hours, did not do so.
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53 Q. Right.
54 A. That was not my area.
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56 Q. If the Company did not pay specific overtime payments,
57 which was the policy, not to pay overtime, then so far as
58 you were concerned, that is the end of it; it did not come
59 into your remit; you did not have to do overtime
60 calculations, because the Company's policy was not to pay
