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     2   MR. MORRIS:  "... that the foam is then collected for recycling
     3        into such things as plant pots, coat hangers" ----
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  "... and installation".
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     7   MR. MORRIS: "... for use in homes, even fillings for duvets".
     8        Do you think such recycling schemes -- this was at four
     9        restaurants out of 400?
    10        A.  Yes.
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    12   Q.   At the time or something like that.  What is your opinion
    13        of such schemes?
    14        A.  Well, I would answer the question in two ways.  It
    15        seems to me it is entirely practical and sensible before
    16        introducing something on a nationwide basis to do a pilot
    17        scheme, that seems to me to be very sensible.  I presume it
    18        was sensible to do it in restaurants or a group of
    19        restaurants that were typical rather than atypical.
    20        I believe it is the sort of thing that members of the
    21        general public, because recent research has shown that in
    22        environmental terms the one kind of message that has been
    23        understood is about the merits and benefits of recycling,
    24        and if you can provide a simple and straightforward way of
    25        ordinary people contributing to that sort of pre-selection
    26        process, then that also is commendable.
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    28        I also believe that it makes very good sense to look at the
    29        ultimate uses that can be found for materials that are
    30        recycled, particularly where you recognise that in the case
    31        of plastic each time they are recycled there will be a
    32        degrading and, therefore, the uses to which they can be put
    33        are progressively more and more limited.
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    35   Q.   Do you think that such schemes serve as an example to
    36        customers, even if they do not cover all the stores?
    37        A.  Yes, I think they do and I think that is a perfectly
    38        sensible way of addressing or enquiring into and conducting
    39        a controlled enquiry into whether or not it would work.
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    41   Q.   What is the message that McDonald's is sending to their
    42        customers nationally with that paragraph?
    43        A.  I think they are saying we use in the course of our
    44        business materials that are capable of being recycled for
    45        good purposes and that you can play your part in helping us
    46        to do that.
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    48   Q.   So how are those materials capable of being recycled?
    49        A.  Well, in the way they talk about in terms of being
    50        recycled for purposes such as the creation of coat hangers, 
    51        insulation material, so on and so forth. 
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    53   Q.   If we go to the Defendants' witness statements -- is it the
    54        light blue?
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    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Volume IB is your Recycling and Waste.
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    58   MR. MORRIS:  It is the statement of Clay Harris.
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    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is section C2.  It is pale blue.

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