Day 123 - 09 May 95 - Page 45
1 paper and make the inference that ---
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3 Q. It is related to -----
4 A. -- that is related, you know, I do not support that.
5 It is wrong.
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7 Q. But what I am saying is, in terms of the, say, just
8 focusing on the cancer as an example -- in what I read to
9 you before -----
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you are really arguing the case with
12 Mr. Beavers. All these are really matters for me.
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14 THE WITNESS: My Lord I would make this point.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
17 A. I have been employed by McDonald's for 31 and a half
18 years and I have been a consumer of McDonald's for much
19 longer than that. I have raised four kids. They all are
20 consumers of the McDonald's products. I have a grandson
21 now, and I have had the opportunity to take him to
22 McDonald's, and I know that our food is nutritious and
23 wholesome. Like anything else, anything consumed in
24 moderation you know, is fine.
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26 MR. MORRIS: But you said you welcomed the people getting
27 dietary guidelines or advice, and what the London
28 Greenpeace fact sheet says, it talks about -----
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, you are arguing the case ---
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32 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- with the witness, I am afraid.
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36 MR. MORRIS: I am trying to see why -----
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He has.
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40 MR. MORRIS: He should have sued London Greenpeace or sued us.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In giving you credit for the purposes of my
43 comment of genuinely holding a certain point of view, it
44 appears to me that Mr. Beavers holds an almost
45 diametrically opposite one; it is not diametrically
46 opposite. You are not going to persuade him that you are
47 right and he is wrong. It does just end up as an argument
48 about whether it is right or wrong. That is the argument
49 you are going to be putting to me. This is in very general
50 terms, but essentially that is the argument you are going
51 to put to me on one topic or another, including the
52 "nutrition", as we have called for the purposes of the
53 trial. It is not, I think, advancing the matter at all, in
54 in, effect arguing the rights and wrongs with Mr. Beavers.
55 You put your point of view and Mr. Beavers comes back --
56 and you have done it on about a dozen occasion now -- and
57 puts his point of view. We are just not getting anywhere.
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59 MR. MORRIS: So just to sum up then, Mr. Beavers, the paragraph
60 that I read out to you.
