Day 307 - 27 Nov 96 - Page 23
1 The other point, on the point that you are asking, is that
2 you said that it did not make any difference which leaflets
3 had been distributed.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I did not mean to say that. You have
6 explained your point.
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8 MS. STEEL: I did not mean it like that. An additional point,
9 in actual fact when I was being cross-examined and
10 Mr. Gravett was being cross-examined Mr. Rampton did
11 actually make some comment about how the leaflets had
12 changed, or something, and he gave an indication that he
13 did not consider the current leaflets to be defamatory and
14 so, obviously, you know, in that case...
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I did not understand that.
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18 MR. RAMPTON: I don't think I said that.
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20 MS. STEEL: I will have to find the part of cross-examination.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There must be a misunderstanding, because I
23 don't think that is so. Anyway, you have answered the
24 query I have in mind that -- well, I am not going to repeat
25 what you have said. You have answered my query.
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27 MS. STEEL: OK.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Anyway, your last point was that the evidence
30 you have called and some of that given by the Plaintiffs'
31 witnesses does support the other leaflet.
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33 MS. STEEL: Yes. I mean, certainly I personally would never
34 distribute a leaflet which I believed to be untrue and
35 which I did not have some good reason for believing was
36 true. I mean, I did say that in the witness box.
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You gave evidence to that effect.
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40 MS. STEEL: Yes, I cannot speak for every single leaflet in all
41 publication bundles, because (a) I have not read them, and
42 (b) some of them are from groups that I have not even
43 remotely heard of and I have absolutely no idea where they
44 got their facts from. I am not saying that any of them are
45 untrue, just that I cannot speak for all of them because I
46 have not read them all. Certainly, any leaflets which
47 I have ever distributed I believe to be true. I mean,
48 there was one in the bundles from a fascist organisation.
49 I have no idea. I can't remember what it says, I don't
50 really think I would be -- I mean, I am not in agreement
51 with fascists, but I don't know what they specifically say
52 about McDonald's, but I might very well not be in agreement
53 with that.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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57 MS. STEEL: Maybe I will say it now, I did say yesterday that
58 most of those leaflets are completely irrelevant because
59 McDonald's have not shown any link between us and those
60 leaflets.
