Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 39


     
     1   Q.   Yes, I have not come to the details of that yet; I am just
     2        talking about in general, the thinnings, yes?
     3        A.  The thinnings in terms of number of trees, yes.
     4
     5   Q.   Right.  Do you happen to know what the volume of thinnings
     6        is compared to the final felling, the clear cutting, the
     7        volume of a typical Fin tree?  What I am saying is that the
     8        trees that are thinned go to the mill like the ones that
     9        are felled?
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause a movement and collect your
    12        thoughts on the question and then ask it.
    13
    14   MR. MORRIS:  When the trees are thinned, they go to the mill in
    15        any event, yes?  So, what would be the average size of the
    16        maybe 4,000 trees that are thinned compared to the ones
    17        that are felled?
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you answer that question?  Some of
    20        them  -----
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  Are they half the size?
    23        A.  You are asking me how long is a piece of string, the
    24        question.  It is very difficult to tell you because we are
    25        talking about three thinnings; the first thinning is going
    26        to produce relatively small trees, the second thinning,
    27        relatively larger trees; the third one, deficient trees in
    28        one form and another and, finally, the reason for the final
    29        felling is that the ones remaining are fundamentally of
    30        value for sawmill product.  They are, therefore, trees of
    31        this sort of substance and not of that sort of substance.
    32        For me to give you an answer is really to give you a false
    33        answer, because it could be anything between X and Y.
    34
    35        What he is saying here is quite logical, is what does a
    36        hectare or an acre, whichever way you look at it because he
    37        starts with acres for some reason, what it will yield?  He
    38        also is showing what it will grow on an annual basis.  The
    39        growth is 5.4 metre cube per acre.  Now, in fact, in
    40        England just to show you how varied this is, I mean England
    41        and Scotland, we get five metre cube per hectare.  He is
    42        talking about five metre cube per acre.  Now, why is that?
    43        One would have to ask the question why you have a very
    44        different factor here.  And it just shows how varied these
    45        forests are.
    46
    47        One must assume he is talking -- no, actually, he is not;
    48        he is talking about "A" is annum; it is not acre.  So, he
    49        is talking about five metre cubes/A meaning annum, and that
    50        means five metre cube per hectare per annum, which is 
    51        comparable to our own.  I am sorry, but I have not seen 
    52        this document before.  "A" means "annum" and not "acre". 
    53        So, he has a growth rate there which is comparable to our
    54        own growth rate and, therefore, when we do come around to
    55        my figures for yield from the forest, it looks as if his is
    56        comparable.
    57
    58   Q.   When they are doing thinnings, would that, in general, go
    59        to pulp or would that go to sawmill?
    60        A.  The thinnings, generally, will go to pulp because they

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