Day 151 - 10 Jul 95 - Page 28


     
     1        22nd March.  76 seems OK.  22nd February, that was before
     2        my time, so I would not like to even hazard a comment on
     3        that.  But I would have to find out the reasons, if I was
     4        presented with these payslips -- on the assumption that
     5        Siamak was working every single week or they were regularly
     6        over 39 -- about why.  He may, you know, have been asking
     7        for it himself, rather than the fact that the store were
     8        anything short.  I mean, I could not even hazard a guess
     9        this far back.
    10
    11   Q.   Did you not investigate this at the time?
    12        A.  I do not remember this case being bought to my
    13        attention or me thinking that this was excessive, to be
    14        honest, but it is a long time ago.
    15
    16   Q.   You do not remember this incident as incredibly unusual?
    17        A.  I do not remember the incident.
    18
    19   Q.   But if it never happens that crew are scheduled more than
    20        39 hours a week, or they work more than 39 hours a week,
    21        expect in extremely rare circumstances, would this not
    22        stick out like a sore thumb?
    23        A.  To take the first part first, then, assuming that the
    24        manager had scheduled, then, yes, it would have stuck out.
    25
    26   Q.   You do not recall it?
    27        A.  I do not recall it sticking out.  So maybe, then, the
    28        second point of investigation for me would be to ask why,
    29        if Siamak was asking for the hours, or there was any bout
    30        of sickness or there were a load of holidays at the time.
    31        As I mentioned earlier on, this would then provide me with
    32        a reason to have a look at it.  I cannot remember if it
    33        stood out or whether or not I looked at it.  It is a
    34        complete memory failure.
    35
    36        I certainly, again, look at 17th May, 1986, and see there
    37        is a Bank Holiday in there of 10 hours.  So, once again,
    38        I would stand to be corrected by my Human Resources people,
    39        but I am pretty sure then that if you were a full-time
    40        employee and you worked a Bank Holiday, you were given
    41        eight hours as well or a sort of full shift.
    42
    43   Q.   Even if that is the case, Mr. Stanton (which I would not
    44        accept), it would still be more than 39 hours a week, would
    45        it not, because that would only take you down to 84?
    46        A.  Certainly, yes; if I was to divide by two, yes.
    47
    48   Q.   These did not stick out like a sore thumb, Mr. Stanton,
    49        because it was a regular occurrence, was it not, that crew
    50        worked more than 39 hours a week? 
    51        A.  One person out of 55. 
    52 
    53   Q.   One person's records who we happen to have, who you do not
    54        recall this being an unusual incident. (sic)  That is
    55        because it was not unusual, was it?
    56        A.  This has stuck out.  It would have been unusual,
    57        certainly.  As I say, I cannot remember if it caused me to
    58        do any investigation.  But one out of a payroll of 55 would
    59        strike me as a symptom, but not necessarily a big wider
    60        problem.

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