Day 133 - 12 Jun 95 - Page 44


     
     1        establishments".  I do not know how much further Ms. Mead
     2        is expected to take it.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:  Yes, but it does not say where that information was
     5        compiled or for what year.  (To the witness):  Do you know
     6        whether the whole document might give those details?
     7        A.  I do not think it would because I do not think those
     8        previous pages will have been relevant because if this says
     9        External Survey of Hourly Rates, I think it would have been
    10        on a different topic relating to pay.  But I do not
    11        actually know what the first four pages contain, so I am
    12        making an assumption.
    13
    14   Q.   You cannot remember?
    15        A.  No, it may be that I have not seen all of -----
    16
    17   Q.   It would have been about crew pay in general?
    18        A.  I believe so.  It may be that I have not seen all of
    19        the total document.  It is possible.  I do not know if you
    20        heard what I said?  I do not know whether I have ever seen
    21        pages 1 to 4; I am not certain whether I had.
    22
    23   Q.   I thought you said you had?
    24        A.  No, you said, had I seen, I thought you meant this
    25        document which I am looking at now.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is what you are saying, you have seen the
    28        papers which we have in front of us now?
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   Q.   You can read what we can read on the page which has a "6"
    32        at the bottom?
    33        A.  Yes.
    34
    35   Q.   You can read that it is an external survey of some kind
    36        from page 5?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.   But you know no more than we do just reading those sheets?
    40        A.  Yes.
    41
    42   Q.   You know no more than we do whether what is said on those
    43        sheets is accurate or not?
    44        A.  No, that is right.  It is not research I have conducted
    45        personally.
    46
    47   Q.   No, or been responsible for conducting?
    48        A.  No.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:   So, was it you who found this document last week or 
    51        was it nothing to do with you? 
    52        A.  It was not me who found this document, no.  I think it 
    53        will be something produced by the Human Resources
    54        Department, but it was not me personally, no.
    55
    56   Q.   Do you know when the first time was that you saw it?
    57        A.  No.
    58
    59   Q.   Do you have any idea whether it was last week or a couple
    60        of years ago?

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