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     1        things was witness schedule, our witnesses, packaging
              witnesses.  We are calling Brian Lipsit.  We have assured
     2        him that we will pay him the money when he gets here.
              I know Mr. Rampton is keen to have a definite 100 per cent
     3        answer.  As far as we are concerned, he is coming.  He
              arrived on Saturday, assuming he gets a ticket.
     4
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where has he got to come from?
     5
         MR. MORRIS:  From America.  I have not got a schedule here.
     6
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have you got one?
     7
         MR. MORRIS:  I know we are a bit behind schedule.  But I think
     8        that once we get on to the basic witnesses of fact it will
              speed up.  Mr. Lipsit is coming on Saturday the 9th and he
     9        wants to hear -----
 
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Has he told you how long can he stay here?
 
    11   MR. MORRIS:  But I think he can stay for a week.  I cannot
              guarantee, but he would like to hear some of the
    12        plaintiffs' evidence, if that was possible.  So rather
              than putting him on the Monday, if we could just say
    13        assuming that there is going to be some of the plaintiffs
              witnesses on that Monday, he should at least have a chance
    14        to hear the plaintiffs' witnesses.  We have had some
              problem obviously getting documents to him and whatever.
    15
              The other thing that is relevant to packaging is that our
    16        expert witness, Mr. D. L. Hopkins, cannot actually come
              the week of 11th which is not making it easier to organise
    17        things, but he is very keen o hear Mr. Mallinson who he is
              compared with.  I am sure Mr. Mallinson would likewise
    18        want to sit in probablely on Mr. Hopkins.  So, we were
              going to propose, obviously it depends on what the
    19        plaintiffs are able to do, that Mallinson and Hopkins are
              heard on the 7th and the 8th, which would mean putting
    20        Mr. Ashworth and Mr. Oakley back.
 
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have I got Mr. Hopkins' statement here?
 
    22   MR. MORRIS:  It has been disclosed.
 
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It has been put in the bundle.  You said
              that in the hearing of Mr. Rampton and those who instruct
    24        him.  So we will see what happens.
 
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  I have to say, my Lord, there is little I can do
              at the moment to accommodate Mr. Morris.  It is nobody's 
    26        fault.  Mr. Hopkins is resident in this country. 
              Mr. Langert is not.  He has to finish by the end of the 
    27        week, so does Mr. Kouchoukos.  Mr. Mallinson is
              immovable.  I say "immovable" because that is the only day
    28        he can manage.  The only concession I can make is that
              I can shift Mr. Oakley.  Professor Ashworth cannot do
    29        Friday 8th anyway, but at the rate we are going at the
              moment, since Professor Duxbury has to be Wednesday
    30        morning, we shall still be on Mr. Langert on Friday.
 

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