Day 007 - 06 Jul 94 - Page 57


     
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         MISS STEEL:  That is right.  People keep fridges for a long
     2        time, do they not?  Also, I believe it is now possible to
              reclaim the blowing agents from fridges and re-use them?
     3        A.  It now very well could be.  Can I make one additional
              point? The home refrigerator is not the only refrigerator
     4        though, as we were talking before.  So I was not trying to
              equate complete CFC refrigerant use on page 35 to that of
     5        home refrigerators on page 37 because, as we have
              discussed, there are institutional food processing uses
     6        for refrigerants.
 
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where the escape is simultaneous with the
              use, you mean, or more or less?
     8        A.  It is difficult to say when it would escape.  That is
              why I was trying to put it in terms of sales in 34 and 35
     9        because it is difficult to say what would have been
              released.
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         MISS STEEL:  But industrial refrigerators also would be used
    11        for quite a number of years before they were disposed of?
              A.  You would think so -- I am not certain though.
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         Q.   I mean, it is going to affect the total used; it is not
    13        just the home refrigerators that it affects, is it?
              A.  No matter how long the refrigerant is in the
    14        refrigerators, wherever they maybe, would not impact the
              total annual sales that are reflected by the industry.
    15        I mean, no matter where they sold into, they did sell into
              their market, no matter how long it lasts, that was still
    16        their annual sales for that year, yes.
 
    17   Q.   I am not clear that is what your figures are saying,
              because I asked you about the three pounds of CFCs per
    18        refrigerator?
              A.  Yes.
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         Q.   Those were the figures that you said you got from them and
    20         -----
              A.  Which may be true.  There maybe three pounds of
    21        refrigerant in a refrigerator.  That is not my area of
              expertise, however, so I am not sure, and yet I was
    22        recording here.
 
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we look at page 38, the fourth blob on
              that page, where you say it will take McDonald's so many
    24        years of manufacturing foam to have the same environmental
              impact.  Might that need some modification in the light of
    25        this point?
  
    26        What you are really saying is the potential for release is 
              this amount in refrigerants, this amount in blowing 
    27        agents, this amount in solvents and so on, is that right,
              or is that over-simplifying the matter?
    28        A.  Let me look through here for a recall because I think
              that is the only place that I could have gotten the auto
    29        numbers from is from that section.  It looks like I may
              have been making that assumption because it does not --
    30        I am trying to see if I broke out autos in the previous
              annual sales documents.  It does not appear as I did.

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