Day 118 - 01 May 95 - Page 24


     
     1        fantasy world.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You do not have to put matters like that,
     4        this is all argument.  You do not have to argue, in other
     5        words, with the witness about it.
     6
     7   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  But you are concerned in your company, are you
     8        not, about areas of the law which may infringe upon the
     9        law, areas of your business where there may be
    10        infringements of law?
    11        A.  Yes, of course we are.
    12
    13   Q.   You issue memos about them to guide your managers?
    14        A.  Sometimes yes.
    15
    16   Q.   You train your managers to be aware of these kind of
    17        issues, do you not?
    18        A.  Yes.
    19
    20   Q.   But in this case you cannot think of a single memo or a
    21        single instruction, or a single paragraph in any training
    22        programme about this -----
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is comment as well.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  That is correct, there is not a single memo
    27        instruction?
    28        A.  No, I did not say that.
    29
    30   Q.   Or paragraph that you know?
    31        A.  That I know of, but I do not get involved in
    32        training.   And I personally have not issued any memo on
    33        this particular subject other than a letter that I wrote to
    34        licensees regarding the employment of young children in
    35        their stores.
    36
    37   Q.   That is a different matter.
    38        A.  But I have not issued a memo on this subject.
    39
    40   Q.   You have not seen one?
    41        A.  And I have not seen one.
    42
    43   Q.   You said or somebody said, I cannot remember who ---
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you going on a different topic?
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  It is related.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Because we have to our five-minute break some
    50        time.  Do you want to ask this question first? 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  I will ask this one question.  When it comes to 
    53        industrial tribunals that if something is a matter of
    54        principle you fight it all the way basically, but if
    55        something is a fairly small matter then it is easier to
    56        settle out of court.
    57        A.  Yes when I was in charge of the department I made it a
    58        point to have a look at tribunals to see what the subject
    59        matter was and if I thought that an important principle was
    60        being challenged I would issue an instruction that that

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