Day 119 - 02 May 95 - Page 57
1 I think it is also done on crew; I am sure it is.
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3 Q. That would apply also to the reasons for sacking people,
4 would it?
5 A. Yes.
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7 MR. MORRIS: Can we make a formal application for those
8 statistics or trends?
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10 MR. RAMPTON: I do not at the moment see any relevance to them
11 at all. It needs to be argued properly and reason given
12 why we should disclose such things, if they do exist.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If Mr. Rampton is taking the stand that it is
15 not relevant, then I have to have an argument about it and
16 decide on the matter. Let us see how we go with
17 Mr. Nicholson's cross-examination and see whether we have
18 any time at the end of the week to deal with it. I see you
19 making a note in your book.
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21 MR. MORRIS: Yes. I am trying to remember everything, but I
22 have missed quite a lot out.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you are writing them down you will be able
25 to -- it looks as if it is important to deal with it
26 comfortably before Miss or Mrs. Mead gives her evidence.
27 She starts on Monday, 12th June, according to the present
28 schedule.
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30 MR. MORRIS: Do you happen to remember or know what the reasons
31 are for people, what the main reasons are for people
32 leaving, saying why they are leaving the Company?
33 A. No.
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35 Q. Do you happen to know what the main reasons given by the
36 Company are for people being sacked?
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38 MR. RAMPTON: I am sorry, I am afraid I must intervene again.
39 I should have said -- Mr. Morris ought to understand that I
40 am making an objection to his line of question -- even if
41 Mr. Nicholson knew the answers to those questions, it would
42 not constitute admissible evidence.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If, for instance, enquiries are being carried
45 out to Mr. Nicholson's satisfaction which disclose that the
46 reason for leaving was to move to better remunerated
47 employment, might that not be relevant and admissible?
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49 MR. RAMPTON: It might be relevant if it were admissible, but it
50 would be hearsay.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not know. It depends in the form it is
53 accumulated. If it was accumulated in a form from which
54 the inference could be drawn that the UK Company accepted
55 that that was the reason, then it would be admissible. You
56 see, at the moment we do not know how the enquiries were
57 carried out and what form they took.
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59 MR. RAMPTON: If it is just a record of the reasons people gave
60 which are no more reliable than anything else which is at
