Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 27
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2 Q. Is that what you want to ask about?
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4 MR. MORRIS: If fat is yellow, you said you do not take the
5 species of cow that automatically have yellow fat, such as
6 the Jersey?
7 A. No, we do not take, not as a species, there is nothing
8 wrong with them as a species, but if you remember I was
9 talking about culled cows and young cows and old cows.
10 Well, a Guernsey/Jersey dairy herd is usually so pampered,
11 so looked after, that the cows are never killed until they
12 are right at the end of their lactation so they would be
13 outside our specification in any case.
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15 Q. So the feed that may turn a cow's fat yellow and show up in
16 the bin, for example, as yellow, do you know what the feed
17 would be to have caused that?
18 A. No, I do not. I mean -- no, I do not. Barley does not
19 turn fat yellow. I do, based on experience -- you have
20 just triggered something in my mind but it has nothing to
21 do with McDonald's -- out in Zimbabwe by law they have to
22 feed them maize, and when you go into an abattoir in
23 Zimbabwe all the fat is yellow because they eat maize.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us stick to meat coming in -----
26 A. Well, yes, that is my point, sir. He asked me a
27 question.
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29 Q. Do you know what it might be -- do not take the breeds of
30 cattle which have yellowish fat?
31 A. Well, based on my observations out there, sir, if
32 anybody fed cattle on a very high ration of maize, the fat
33 would go yellow but I had not thought about that for years.
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35 MR. MORRIS: But when you see yellow in a bin arriving, or one
36 of your inspectors, or whatever, sees yellow in the bin, do
37 they assume it is from some feed from the cattle or some
38 other reason?
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you are just being asked what would
41 your reaction be if you saw meat with yellowish fat in one
42 of the combo bins?
43 A. If I am being asked that, sir, and the quality of the
44 meat was right and it did not show evidence of being a very
45 old cow, I would accept it. It would not affect the meat.
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47 MR. MORRIS: When you say in your statement: "50 to 56 per cent
48 of the meat used in McDonald's hamburgers comes from steers
49 and heifers which are the top quality butcher shop
50 meat" ----
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you can give the paragraph when you say
53 this ---
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55 MR. MORRIS: Paragraph 37.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- so that I can look at it.
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59 MR. MORRIS: Paragraph 37. I am not quite sure what the meaning
60 of that is. Are you saying that the steers and the heifers
