Day 107 - 24 Mar 95 - Page 48


     
     1        Government".
     2
     3   THE WITNESS:  I have the paper but all I have is the actual
     4        paper numbers -----
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  I gave you ---
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Page 222.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  -- a printed page number, top left-hand corner of
    11        page?
    12        A.  I am sorry, yes, I have it.
    13
    14   Q.   I have not independent page numbers because most pages are
    15        numbered.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He has it now.
    18
    19   MR. RAMPTON:  Appendix B, paragraph B.4, entitled End Point
    20        controls.  This is in April 1989 which is some 13 years
    21        after 1976?
    22        A.  Yes.
    23
    24   Q.   You say this -- it is you, is it not?
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   "That millions of meals are prepared and served daily
    28        suggest that millions of cooks daily are able to prevent
    29        salmonella food poisoning"?
    30        A.  Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   Bear with me.  "It is worth considering that very few cooks
    33        are actually responsible for food poisoning outbreaks
    34        compared to the proportion that are not."
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   It is a small problem, is it not, in public health or human
    38        health terms?
    39        A.  Proportionately, yes.  Mr. Rampton, there are two
    40        answers to this.  Obviously, you can see which direction
    41        I was coming from.  In absolute terms it is considered a
    42        major public health problem.  As a proportional problem, it
    43        is a very small proportion.
    44
    45   Q.   Assume it to be common ground between yourself and
    46        McDonald's that it would be highly desirable, Mr. North, if
    47        there were no cases of food poisoning anywhere in the world
    48        at any time ever more.  Assume that McDonald's accept
    49        without reservation, if you will, your proposition made
    50        earlier today that to cause food poisoning in its customers 
    51        is commercial suicide for a food caterer? 
    52        A.  It tends to be. 
    53
    54   Q.   Yes.  Now, please, turn to page 229, appendix D, of this
    55        paper.  I will read the whole of this to you before I ask
    56        you a question about it.  "Elimination of eggs".  You are
    57        concentrating on the proposition that British eggs were
    58        dangerous.  "To the question:  'Should I give up eating
    59        eggs?' the advice is as follows:  It is a personal
    60        decision, but if you feel that there is sufficient grounds

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