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1 required, then that is a different people, but if it is
2 merely to repeat what is already there then, frankly, it
3 is a waste of time.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Bear it mind, Mr. Morris. When you want to
6 draw attention to particular parts of references, I
7 understand that, because I make no bones of the fact that
8 I am not reading all the references to all the statements,
9 so it is right I should be referred to the parts which are
10 particularly important. But when you go through
11 Dr. Lobstein's statement, he need not repeat anything
12 which is there. If you have an elaboration, deal with it
13 by all means.
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15 MR. MORRIS: OK.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you are anxious that only I have read it
18 and you have read it and Mr. Rampton and the rest of the
19 McDonald's team have read it and you want it to come out
20 in open court, well, just read out the paragraph aloud.
21 But just deal with any elaboration or explanation.
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23 MR. MORRIS: It certainly is not my intention to -- on the
24 record it is because I wanted to emphasise what I think is
25 quite an important point which is, very briefly, when
26 McDonald's say they are using basic products such as can
27 be found in people's kitchens, is that telling the full
28 story?
29 A. In the sense that they make statements that they use
30 basics ingredients such as meat, milk, potatoes, bread,
31 I think is the phrase they have used, clearly that is not
32 the whole story because the whole purpose of not being a
33 grocery but being a fastfood store is to convert those
34 into meals, and the means by which they do that, by and
35 large (and this is the point at issue) is to increase the
36 fat content, increase the sugar content and increase the
37 salt content of those foods. So, it is not simply enough
38 to say that they serve meat, bread, potatoes and milk.
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40 MS. STEEL: You mention in your first statement (and this
41 follows on) that you have looked at the nutritional makeup
42 of McDonald's food. I do not know whether you have a copy
43 of Good Food, Nutrition and McDonald's but, if not, there
44 will be one on the shelf behind you.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you give me the reference?
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48 MS. STEEL: It is pink volume VI.
49 A. I have one.
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51 Q. Just to be on the safe side, can you tell us the date of
52 the one you have so we have the same one because there is
53 a different version?
54 A. Is the date written on it?
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56 Q. I think it should be on -----
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you look at the very first page sometimes
59 they have been written on in longhand, Dr. Lobstein.
60 A. I have on the very last page, I think it is, first
