Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 50


     
     1        A.  Sorry, London Greenpeace.  I have met with Special
     2        Branch to do with animal rights activities, which were of
     3        much more concern to me at that time than
     4        London Greenpeace.
     5
     6   Q.   But the very first time you met with Special Branch
     7        about-----
     8        A.  As far as you were concerned; as far as
     9        London Greenpeace was concerned.
    10
    11   Q.   So, you may have had meetings with Special Branch prior to
    12        June 1989?
    13        A.  Yes, to do with animal rights.  I have been meeting
    14        with Special Branch since 1984 to do with animal rights.
    15
    16   Q.   What, on a regular basis?
    17        A.  No, no.
    18
    19   Q.   But quite a few times?
    20        A.  Half a dozen maybe, over the course of six, seven
    21        years.
    22
    23   Q.   Was that at your initiation or at theirs?
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look, I really must ask you to put what you
    26        are aiming at here, because I just do not know.  I do not
    27        want this case on either side just to be an information
    28        gathering exercise.  It has to be applied to the particular
    29        issues in the case.
    30
    31   MS. STEEL:   It was before, but, yes -- I have gone a bit -- it
    32        was the point about having, you know, not him saying, I do
    33        not know, the first time he met was in September.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If what I will call "background information"
    36        is relevant to cast doubt on some of the evidence about
    37        publication, as I understand it, if background information
    38        is relevant to the suggestion of some improper motive for
    39        bringing the proceedings or putting out the material upon
    40        which your counterclaim is founded, I understand that.  But
    41        what I would like you to make sure you do do before you end
    42        your cross-examination is if there is any suggestion of
    43        that kind, put it straight to Mr. Nicholson, because he is
    44        one of the people whom, understandably, you have specified
    45        as the flesh and blood of the malice allegation.  If you
    46        say he had improper motives which cast a shadow over the
    47        Second Plaintiff, then you should put it to him.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  Talking about why you were concerned about or why
    50        you brought the action, in that leaflet, the Aims and 
    51        Objectives leaflet, it talks about London Greenpeace being 
    52        actively involved in -- maybe it is worth getting that 
    53        leaflet out.  It is actually behind Paul Preston's
    54        statement appendix 1.  I am not sure where that would be.
    55        Publication volume 2, I think.  Yellow.
    56        A.  Yellow 1?
    57
    58   Q.   Is it yellow 1.  I have got 2 here.
    59        A.  Paul Preston is in yellow 1.
    60

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