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2 MR. MORRIS: -- during that year?
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: As I understand it, when we are looking at
5 these figures, they are not the same at all from year to
6 year. For instance, 1989 was nearly 300, internal, and a
7 figure which I cannot read but must be less than 400,
8 external, which is clearly more than half internal. Then,
9 as Mr. Morris has pointed out, in 1990 the ones hired as
10 management were less than half internal, less than half
11 internal 92, considerably more than half internal 1992.
12 But, as I understand it, these are numbers hired ---
13 A. Yes.
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15 Q. -- during the year; is that not right?
16 A. Yes.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Put it so Ms. Mead can understand.
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20 MR. MORRIS: All the internal -----
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Listen for a moment. If you disagree with
23 that, put your question to her and then put to her and show
24 her the document which you say is inconsistent with it, if
25 you do say it is inconsistent.
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27 MR. MORRIS: Just all the internal, external hires at the end of
28 each year, the internal hires are substantially less than
29 the external hires.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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33 MR. MORRIS: Is that not correct? For every year that we have
34 information in front of us, except actually for March 31st
35 1995 which is the very last, that is only one quarter?
36 A. Where is that?
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38 Q. Sorry, that is actually sheet F but we can come to that
39 later.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is why I asked you to put it, you see,
42 because I am still in a twirl.
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44 MR. MORRIS: Sorry. (To the witness): Certainly in terms of
45 between 1989 and 1993, up to September 30th, each year
46 summarised is less hires from internal sources than from
47 external sources. That is a fact, is it not, if these
48 figures can be believed?
49 A. Yes, that is what these figures show.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Point to the document which you suggest is
52 inconsistent with that, if there is one.
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54 MR. MORRIS: That is what we just heard before about what
55 percentage of management grades come from crew.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But I think you should put it so we can see
58 whether it is hiring or people in post.
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60 MR. MORRIS: It is document B, apparently. It says: "All
