Day 290 - 30 Oct 96 - Page 24
1 late '70s and early '80s. He said that about five years
2 ago.... Sorry. (Pause) He said that - I cannot remember
3 whether I have given the reference, day 88, page 58,
4 starting at line 12 - 15 years ago we would have had 10
5 percent of our pigs outside. Ten years ago he was not
6 sure, but it had increased.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just take this more slowly. Fifteen years
9 ago there were what?
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11 MS. STEEL: We would have had 10 percent of our pigs outside.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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15 MS. STEEL: Ten years ago, he said it had increased but he was
16 not sure what the figure was. Five years ago, he said
17 about 30 percent would have been outside. So ten years ago
18 presumably it was somewhere between 10 and 30 percent.
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20 He said, further down on the same page, that pattern would
21 have been reflected in the other farms that were supplying
22 Bowes with the pigs, and he said it was a trend that had
23 taken place all over the country. (Pause)
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25 I seem to have gone off the sows. That was about the pigs
26 in general. I was just trying to bunch them together.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We will break off now until two o'clock
29 anyway. May I repeat, obviously if you can take it in some
30 logical sequence, be it by order through the life of the
31 pig or in different categories, it helps. But I would
32 rather you kept going than attempt to do that as you are
33 going along, if it is going to hold you up, because I can
34 sort it all out later. It is helpful if I have it all in
35 nice order in the first place, but if that can only be done
36 at the cost of breaking up your flow, just carry on anyway.
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38 (Luncheon Adjournment)
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40 MS. STEEL: The point I was making earlier about the sows --
41 the fact that they are not the ones going to slaughter all
42 the time -- in fact Mr. Bowes said that of their own herd
43 of sows, 6,300 of them, between twenty-five to 50 go to
44 slaughter each week. He said some weeks it might be none,
45 other weeks it might be eighty. That was day 88, page 51,
46 line 6. He said the breeding stock are eight to ten months
47 old when Bowes purchased them. That was day 88, page 51,
48 line 10. He said that some are bred for outdoor production
49 and some for indoor, there were two different streams.
50 That was day 88, page 152, line 56. The indoor pigs for
51 breeding indoors would have been born indoors and reared
52 indoors for the eight to ten months before Bowes got them.
53 Day 88, page 50 two, line 56.
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55 He said that the Bowes farm itself had never used dry sow
56 stalls but suppliers had, although he said that currently
57 less than ten percent of the suppliers used dry sow
58 stalls. He said five years ago he did not know how many
59 were using dry sow stalls, but it would have been more than
60 ten percent. That was day 88, page 66. Obviously, one of
