Day 001 - 28 Jun 94 - Page 57


     
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         MR. MORRIS:  Could we have the sound this time?
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         MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I advance that not as evidence of the
     3        truth of anything that is said in it at all, but as
              evidence of, as said in one of the old cases, how far the
     4        defendants' poison has reached.
 
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you, Mr. Rampton.
 
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  It was made sometime earlier this year.
 
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The next stage is that you have an
              opportunity to open your cases to me.  You can start this
     8        evening if you want, though we will probably only go on
              for about a quarter of an hour, or you can put it over
     9        until the morning.
 
    10   MR. MORRIS:  We have some outstanding matters about the
              delivery of transcripts to us.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we deal with first things first.  Do you
    12        want to start your openings in the morning?
 
    13   MISS STEEL:  Yes.
 
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I say one thing about that because it
              will affect cross-examination as well.  You are separate
    15        defendants in the action, so since we have agreed that you
              can open the matter, you can each open your case.  When it
    16        comes to cross-examining, you can each cross-examine.  The
              normal order would be that you, Miss Steel, would go first
    17        because you happen to be the first of the two remaining
              defendants, then Mr. Morris would go next.  There would be
    18        no objection from me, and I doubt there will be any
              objection from Mr. Rampton, if you changed the order.
    19        I do not suppose if one of you starts and then the other
              asks some questions and the first one then does some
    20        tidying up, there will be any objection to that.  What it
              would be helpful to do obviously, whether in opening or
    21        cross-examination, would be to avoid unnecessary
              duplication.  I know you will bear that in mind.
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              Do you know how long your openings together, or your joint
    23        opening if that is what it is to be, will take tomorrow?
 
    24   MR. MORRIS:  We think about one day it should be completed.
 
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Now, what about the transcripts?
  
    26   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Yesterday Mr. Rampton said that we will get 
              -- you remember there was a discussion on yesterday when 
    27        the transcripts would arrive to the defendants of the
              day's proceedings.  Mr. Rampton said they would be sent to
    28        us by courier as soon as humanly possible.  You may recall
              that.  Well, we were informed last night or was it this
    29        morning -- I think I might have got a fax last night very
              late saying that the plaintiffs do not wish to send us the
    30        transcripts, but that we would have to collect them from
              their offices at our leisure sometime in the evening when

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