Day 182 - 02 Nov 95 - Page 26


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suggest you take up my suggestion and see
     3        where that gets you.
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     5   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  Just for ease of reference, it is appendix
     6        B, paragraph 37, first paragraph, the first paragraph of
     7        that section on page 22.
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     9        Moving on from that -----
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    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There is one question I would like to ask
    12        because it is the paragraph at the foot of the first page
    13        of your own statement, Mr. Jenssen.  When you say:
    14         "I worked almost every Saturday night for over a year",
    15        when was that?
    16        A.  That was from when I started working at McDonald's in
    17        the autumn of 1988, and through that.
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    19   Q.   So when you were 16 to 17?
    20        A.  Yes.
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    22   Q.   What time did you work to?  Did you work to the same time
    23        every Saturday night or did it vary?
    24        A.  It varied a bit.  The store closed at 11.30, but
    25        sometimes you would help clean up the kitchen or the front
    26        after you had worked for about 15 minutes, and that 15, 20
    27        minutes, half an hour, it depends how much.
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    29   Q.   So, is what you are saying that almost every Saturday night
    30        during that year you worked until between 11.30 and
    31        midnight, something like that?
    32        A.  Yes.
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    34   Q.   Yes.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  Just one question regarding the obtaining of the
    37        union agreement.  You have said about having an individual
    38        meeting with "Martin Graham, the supervisor of our
    39        restaurant".  Martin Graham, the supervisor, he covered a
    40        number of restaurants, did he?
    41        A.  Yes, I believe four or five.
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    43   Q.   Right.  So what happened around this time?  Can you just
    44        explain what happened around that time?
    45        A.  Well, he came into the restaurant and -----
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    47   Q.   Sorry, what period was this?  Was this just before?
    48        A.  That was just before the agreement was reached.  That
    49        was in the week before it.  He, well, I was in a meeting
    50        with him, alone, in the office of the Store Manager where 
    51        he laid out McDonald's position about the union and ----- 
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    53   Q.   Which was what?
    54        A.  Well, as I said, they were -- they believed that the
    55        union was not for McDonald's, that it would not work out,
    56        that McDonald's system was incompatible with a collective
    57        agreement, that it would pose such a difficulty for them to
    58        co-operate with the union, that it would be impossible.  He
    59        also stated that he did not believe that a union was
    60        working for its members.  It was just after harassing

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