Day 292 - 01 Nov 96 - Page 51
1 than paper in April 1991. That was put to him, and I think
2 he reluctantly accepted that.
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4 Page 72, I have put 'important' there,. One to 46, I mean,
5 you can read it for yourself, but, yes, it says there,
6 'Sums up McDonald's PR department lies re environmental
7 damages of foam. Also see-----'
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Advantages -----.
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11 MR. MORRIS: 'Advantages of foam'. See also page 73, line 14,
12 up to there. Basically, you can read it for yourself but
13 they are saying one thing which he now in court would be
14 forced to retract. You conclude at the bottom of the page,
15 "Regarding the document I have been reading out it is a
16 bit of a plug for Polystyrene packaging, is it not", that
17 page. So that is quite an important part.
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19 Page 72, line 52, we have dealt with that. Page 73, they
20 are claiming the plastic packaging is recyclable in 1990.
21 They are still, that was in 1990. They were claiming their
22 plastic packaging is recyclable, and therefore the same
23 considerations would apply to that regarding the deceptive
24 nature of that as would apply to other points about
25 recycleability of paper packaging, whatever. That was in
26 1990. They are not doing it now. It says there, "Judge
27 weighs in", page 74, line 15.
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29 MR JUSTICE BELL: Who was I weighing into? You or Mr. Oakley?
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31 MR. MORRIS: You just weighed into the discussion. You said,
32 "So the foam packaging used by Mcdonald's in the middle of
33 1990 was not actually recyclable." He said, "We have not
34 said that the packaging used by McDonald's is recyclable".
35 And then you read out the bit that says it is recyclable.
36 The words are, line 22 page 74, from the document, "it is
37 recyclable." Mr. Oakley, said it is.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What was that, 74, 22?
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41 MR. MORRIS: Yes, 74, lines 5 to 22, to 24. In fact 26.
42 Involved you and discussing about whether something is
43 recyclable or not. Basically, it clearly was not.
44 Mr. Oakley was claiming both it was and it was not at the
45 same time. So that is day 60.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you want to go on and finish him, you
48 can, but it is quarter past -----
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50 MR. MORRIS: Funnily enough, I have actually got a babysitter
51 tonight, so I have a bit of extra time. Shall I finish off
52 the next -----
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54 MR JUSTICE BELL: I would not go further than the end of
55 Mr. Oakley. You can do page 61, if you want.
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57 MR. MORRIS: Yes. I might as well do day 61. Page 10: toilet
58 rolls and kitchen rolls not made from recycled paper before
59 July 1989. So, they can be effectively ruled out of the
60 equation.
