Day 073 - 13 Jan 95 - Page 41


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  -- so is the whole of Ontario.  That is very
     3        informative, thank you.  Would you like to see a map?
     4        I can pass you a map so long as you undertake to pass it
     5        back.
     6        A.  I do not exactly know where it is.
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, Mr. Rampton has brought his school atlas
     9        and you can have a look at that.
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    11   MR. RAMPTON:  It is a bit better than a school atlas.  I have
    12        looked it up in the Gazatteer and I cannot find Gordon
    13        Cousins Forest, otherwise I would not have asked you the
    14        question I did.
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you think if you were actually handed an
    17        atlas and it is as detailed as most household atlases
    18        go  -----
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    20   MR. RAMPTON:  It is The Time's.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I thought I recognised it.  Do you think
    23        you would be able to pin it down then?
    24        A.  I might be able to; I am not certain is the answer to
    25        that, not to sort of -----
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    27   Q.   Is there anything in the script besides the photograph that
    28        which helps you?
    29        A.  I am just reading down the script now.  No, I cannot
    30        see anything that would pin it down precisely.
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    32   MR. RAMPTON:  As it is not in the Gazatteer, then there is no
    33        point in us looking at the map, my Lord.
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    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The trouble with Canada is you have
    36        absolutely phenomenal areas?
    37        A.  Yes.
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    39   Q.   You can drive for hundreds and hundreds of miles -- I do
    40        not know whether that is right in the forest because you
    41        get to a certain stage and you just have to fly because you
    42        cannot get through by any other means of transport?
    43        A.  It is a very big country.
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    45   Q.   If you can find a bit of higher land (which is not always
    46        easy) you can look around you and you see nothing but trees
    47        as far as the eye can see even on a beautiful, clear day,
    48        can you not?
    49        A.  Yes, particularly if you are driving through you will
    50        see nothing but trees because the Canadian and the American 
    51        industry leave what they call "beauty strips", partly 
    52        because of the tourist industry and, particularly along the 
    53        major highways, you will often see nothing but forests,
    54        simply because there is 100 metres either side of forest
    55        preserve.  I have often walked through those 100 metres
    56        which, if you were just a tourist driving through, say,
    57        northern Alberta, you walk off those roads through 100
    58        metres of forest and behind that it is pure clear cut, but
    59        unless you know to look, you will not know.  They are
    60        called "beauty strips" -- that is their own language in

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