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     1        mellitus.  Again I do not read the section, only the
              conclusion at 3.7.4 on page 55: "Conclusions: The Panel
     2        concluded that there is no evidence for a direct effect of
              dietary fat on the development of either insulin-dependent
     3        or non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus.  The Panel
              endorsed recent dietary recommendations that in diabetes
     4        fat should provide about 30-35 per cent of energy, with no
              more than about one third of that from saturated fatty
     5        acids".  So we are getting back to our 33 per cent, 10 or
              11 per cent?
     6        A.  That is right.
 
     7   Q.   In 3.8 do they give an overall DRV for fat?
              A.  Yes, that is right.
     8
         Q.   Having considered the range of possible conditions to
     9        which it might be related ---
              A.  Yes.
    10
         Q.   -- they come to this:  "Saturated fatty acids should
    11        provide an average for the population of 10 per cent of
              total dietary energy."   Then there are a number of other
    12        paragraphs.  Go to the last of the recommendations, (vi):
              "Total fatty acid intake should therefore average 30 per
    13        cent, and total fat intake ie including glycerol 33 per
              cent, of total dietary energy including alcohol or 35 per
    14        cent of energy derived from food".
 
    15        Can one conclude from that, Professor Wheelock, that for a
              well brought up child of, say, nine years old who does not
    16        drink alcohol (or certainly should not) one would take the
              higher figure, 35 per cent?
    17        A.  That is right, because there is energy in alcohol but
              there is no fat.
    18
         Q.   Please turn to -- I am going to come back to what is
    19        called "dietary fibre" later on -- I would like to have a
              passing glance at sugars on page 72, which is chapter 5.
    20        Only the conclusions, starting at 72 but I am going
              directly to 73 at paragraph 5.5:  "Conclusions.  The panel
    21        agreed with following conclusions of the COMA panel on
              dietary sugars."   COMA is an acronym for what?
    22        A.  This is the Committee on Medical Aspect of Food
              Policy.
    23
         Q.   The Committee on Medical Aspect of Food Policy?
    24        A.  It is the same organisation as produced this report.
 
    25   Q.   So, it is agreeing with itself?
              A.  Yes, but it is a panel which reported a year or two 
    26        earlier. 
  
    27   Q.   Tell me something about the way these people proceed-
              these authorities, if may call them that- if, after a two
    28        year period, the people who sat on these panels had seen
              reason to review or revise COMA's conclusions, would they
    29        have done so, do you suppose?
              A.  I would imagine that they would make representations
    30        to the Secretariat.
 

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