Day 072 - 12 Jan 95 - Page 28


     
     1        A.  Yes.
     2
     3   Q.   They consider it to be a significant part of the environment/index.html">litter
     4        that is lying around in that Square area?
     5        A.  Well, they consider it to be, yes.
     6
     7   Q.   But you do not?  Are you saying it is?
     8        A.  Oh, no, I believe there is a lot of McDonald's environment/index.html">litter,
     9        yes, but I am not going to be committed to saying how much
    10        of that environment/index.html">litter is ours.  I cannot tell you that for a fact.
    11
    12   Q.   This letter is at the end of the summer.  The staff going
    13        out on environment/index.html">litter patrols, you said, would have been in
    14        uniform?
    15        A.  Well, it depends.
    16
    17   Q.   If they are going out every half an hour, surely, it is
    18        inevitable that at least somebody from the residents
    19        association is going to spot them?
    20        A.  That would be obviously depending on the weather as
    21        well.  I would not say they would always be out just in
    22        uniform.  It was not a very good summer, as I can recall.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It might be thought, for instance, one way of
    25        seeing is if you see a McDonald's french fries carton when
    26        you are setting off on a little walk or trip and when you
    27        come back two hours later it is still there, something has
    28        gone wrong, you see?  That is the sort of thing a local
    29        residents might observe.
    30        A.  Yes, there is also a possibility that, you know, the
    31        trash walk can miss things.  It is not a perfect system of
    32        removing all the rubbish.  There is a possibility that a
    33        wrapper or a straw wrapper or a cup may be missed,
    34        especially if it is underneath a car or in a gutter or down
    35        a basement.  So, I have not stated that the trash walk is
    36        an ideal means of removing all the rubbish.  There may well
    37        be some rubbish hidden and blown across the streets by the
    38        wind.
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:  So the people doing the environment/index.html">litter patrols pick up the
    41        obviously visible pieces; they would not, you know, go and
    42        fish them out of the gutter or pick them out of bushes if
    43        they have blown into bushes or what-have-you?
    44        A.  If they saw them, they would, yes, they would remove
    45        them from beside cars or underneath cars, if they could see
    46        them.  But they do not investigate every single area.  It
    47        would not be feasible to expect them to spend up to two
    48        hours looking around every nook and cranny.  The main point
    49        is we are trying to control the situation, not alleviate it
    50        100 per cent; that would not be possible. 
    51 
    52   Q.   On page 783 there is a letter from someone who 
    53        indicates that they are McDonald's next door neighbours.
    54         "It would seem that the McDonald's environment/index.html">litter patrol does not
    55        extend to your next door neighbours.  Could you please
    56        ensure that empty McDonald's cartons are removed from my
    57        doorstep on a regular basis".  They are not talking there
    58        about basements, are they?  They are talking about
    59        doorsteps.
    60        A.  And people sit in these doorsteps, the ones beside the

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