Day 306 - 26 Nov 96 - Page 22
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2 Answer: You and others." He has been given incorrect
3 information which has prejudiced his ability to observe and
4 record what was going on.
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6 Page 14 of day 267, on line 47, he makes the distinction
7 between the public meetings at Endsleigh Street and the
8 non-public meetings that were at Caledonian Road. Of
9 course, we have heard that some of the Endsleigh Street
10 meetings were, in effect, not public either because they
11 had not been publicised or they were used as an internal
12 discussion. He cannot recall how leaflets ever arrived on
13 the table at Endsleigh Street, top of page 15. Helen asked
14 him at the top of page 17 about him saying that she
15 admitted to helping with all anti-McDonald's information
16 leaflets and their distribution and other things, he says,
17 line 30: "It would have been what I gleaned from that
18 meeting. I cannot recall whether you said it or somebody
19 else said it." Then she puts to him -- well, it says she
20 admitted:
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22 "Are you saying that might have actually come from somebody
23 else?
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25 Answer: No, I am saying that if that is what my notes say,
26 it will probably mean that you had said something for me to
27 have made those notes." "Said something", probably; so he
28 is not saying, "Oh, blimey, if I use that word, then it is
29 definitely absolutely the very words that she said". So,
30 even that cannot be taken literally. Then on top of
31 page 18 I say:
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33 "You do not have a recollection of me holding up particular
34 leaflets at this time?
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36 Answer: Not at all.
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38 Question: Or identifying any particular leaflets that I
39 was talking about or allegedly talking about?
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41 Answer: I do not recall."
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43 He did say on page 19 that he did not hear and he would
44 have recorded it if anybody was actually trying to chivvy
45 Paul along to get this fact sheet done which he had
46 promised to update. So, there did not seem to be really
47 any interest in republishing, updating the fact sheet.
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49 He misdescribed the drawer in the office that he had swiped
50 the lock of to get in. About McDonald's, he characterised
51 it as McNasty; and there was no drawer marked McNasty. On
52 page 24 he remembered that people in the group were
53 involved with the Hackney and Islington Animal Rights
54 group. I am trying to whip through as fast as I can.
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56 I have marked some things on page 39. I cannot grasp
57 exactly what way I have marked them, but it might be worth
58 having a look. It is about him sending out letters -- yes,
59 and about him not recording that a meeting took place that
60 he attended, based on Mr. Pocklington's notes. So that
