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     2   Q.   Then you will see that in the letter from Monfort to
     3        Keystone -- are Keystone direct suppliers of McDonald's?
     4        A.  Yes, they are.
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     6   Q.   Monfort are suppliers of meat to Keystone, is that right?
     7        A.  Yes, they are.
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     9   Q.   You will see in the first paragraph the writer, Paul
    10        Clayton, says that: "A copy of the recommended animal
    11        handling guidelines for meat patties published by the
    12        American Meat Institute is also enclosed. Our company
    13        practices those handling techniques in addition to our
    14        tailored welfare policy." If you go past the documents
    15        marked "Confidential" you come I think to that document?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Is that document recommended animal handling guidelines for
    19        meat packers a document with which you are familiar?
    20        A.  Yes, it is.
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    22   Q.   Are you confident that Monfort does in practice use these
    23        animal welfare policies?
    24        A.  Yes, I am.
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    26   Q.   I am trying to be as orderly as I can but, largely
    27        speaking, re-examination follows the scheme of
    28        cross-examination.
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    30   MR. MORRIS:  Is it appropriate like the last one when the
    31        witness has already said he had not visited Monfort?
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    33   MR. RAMPTON:  He said he had not visited Montfort plant at Grand
    34        Island.
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    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Have you visited other Monfort plants?
    37        A.  I have visited their corporate offices.  I have visited
    38        some plants, but not with McDonald's, where I was before
    39        McDonald's, but with McDonald's have I visited some plants,
    40        I do not remember.  I might have but I do not remember the
    41        specific plant.  I have worked quite extensively with Paul
    42        Clayton who is named in this document.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  I am moving on a little bit.  I apologise for
    45        that, Dr. Gomez Gonzalez.  Let me ask you this.  You test
    46        for E.coli?
    47        A.  Yes, we do.
    48
    49   Q.   Or your suppliers do.  I think you told us yesterday or the
    50        day before or the day before that that your tests had not 
    51        found it very often? 
    52        A.  That is correct. 
    53
    54   Q.   Have you any rough idea of how often it has been found
    55        since the testing started?
    56        A.  It is definitely less than 1 per cent.
    57
    58   Q.   Mr. David Walker when he gave evidence told us that since
    59        they started testing in 1990 in fact -- not 1991 -- they at
    60        McKeys had found it once, one of their suppliers had found

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