Day 159 - 20 Jul 95 - Page 28


     
     1   Q.   Do you remember anybody called Dave Magee?
     2        A.  The name sounds familiar, but I cannot put a face to
     3        him.  The name sounds familiar.
     4
     5   Q.   Have you read the statement which he has written for this
     6        case?
     7        A.  I did.
     8
     9   Q.   Can I ask you (and I only need one word or one sentence;
    10        I am not going to ask you to comment on it in any detail)
    11        what your reaction was when you had read Mr. Magee's
    12        statement?
    13        A.  I thought, "what a liar".
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  If she is going to say he is a liar, then you will
    16        have to put everything in the statement and identify which
    17        bits are lies, we submit.
    18
    19   MR. RAMPTON:  I will leave that to the Defendants.
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  Otherwise then it can be ignored as a piece of
    22        evidence.
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, if the Defendants wish to challenge that
    25        answer, then it is open to them to do so.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  No, I believe the obligation is on the Plaintiffs.
    28        We were put under obligation -----
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let the evidence come in-chief and then you
    31        ask the questions you want in cross-examination.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  I believe that yesterday, or whenever it was, we
    34        were told that we had to put the matters in our statements
    35        where -----
    36
    37   MR. RAMPTON:  That is because you were cross-examining.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When we come to cross-examination, I will
    40        help you, if need be, with what you do, but I am not going
    41        to interrupt the way Mr. Rampton takes his own witness
    42        in-chief.  He was entitled to ask the question.  You have
    43        the answer.  We can pick it up again when you come to
    44        cross-examine.  If you want some help from me about just
    45        what you need to put or do not, I will give it to you.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Rampton knew what the answer was going to be
    48        when he asked the question.  Therefore, the obligation
    49        should be on him.  It is not our obligation to challenge
    50        it. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You may be right about that, but bother about 
    53        that when you come to cross-examination.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  Thank you, Mrs. Farrer.  I am not
    56        going to ask anything more about Mr. David Magee or his
    57        statement except this:  Do you remember whether or not in
    58        1986/1987 Mr. Magee or anybody else in the restaurant was
    59        running a recruitment campaign to try to get people to join
    60        a union?

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