Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 72


     
     1   Q.   I am sure you are familiar, not with this document, but
     2        with this material.  Could I ask you to refind that sheet.
     3        My Lord, it is the table taken from the COMA Report on
     4        cardio-vascular disease.
     5
     6        This is dealing with mortality, Professor, from heart
     7        disease and stroke in Europe by and large, European
     8        Community I think.  I would ask you, first of all, to look
     9        at the columns on top right-hand side of the sheet.  The
    10        United Kingdom is conveniently identified with a white
    11        column.  The other nations alas are all the same colour.
    12
    13        Can we look at the 6 blocks on the right, first of all,
    14        please:  Average for these consumptions are mostly measured
    15        in grams per person per day but sometimes in calories.
    16        First of all, 8, and I ask you to look at 3 countries:  The
    17        United Kingdom, which is in the middle, is somewhat under
    18        40 grams of egg per person per day?
    19        A.  I am sorry, I do not see this.
    20
    21   Q.   I am sorry, I am going a little fast.  Do you see a heading
    22        "figure 2"?
    23        A.  I see, yes, OK sorry.
    24
    25   Q.   The first lot of columns is eggs?
    26        A.  Yes.
    27
    28   Q.   The United Kingdom is just under 40 grams per person per
    29        day of eggs?
    30        A.  Right.
    31
    32   Q.   Go to your right and you will find France, which is just
    33        about on 40, and then if you to go Germany you will find
    34        you are about 45.  Do you see that?
    35        A.  Yes, I do.
    36
    37   Q.   Then if you go to the next diagram, cheese.  Now cheese
    38        contains a lot of saturated fat, does it not?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    41   Q.   As a rule, particularly hard cheese.  United Kingdom
    42        consumes just about 50 calories in cheese, just over, per
    43        person, per day.  The Germans, on the other hand, consume
    44        about 140, something like that.  Do you agree?
    45        A.  Yes.
    46
    47   Q.   And the French approaching 200, maybe 170.  Yes?
    48        A.  Right.
    49
    50   Q.   Then if you go down? 
    51        A.  I am sorry, the French in the case of cheese is more 
    52        like 180. 
    53
    54   Q.   Did I say?
    55        A.  I thought you said 280 or 270.
    56
    57   Q.   No, I said approaching 200, something like 170?
    58        A.  I am sorry.
    59
    60   Q.   As between, for example, France and the United Kingdom,

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