Day 009 - 08 Jul 94 - Page 40
1 Q. But in the meantime you are going to continue using
packaging which damages the environment?
2 A. We are going to continue using packaging that serves
the function of providing the breakfast meal to our
3 customers and then minimise the environmental impact by
doing so.
4
Q. What about the foam that is used in Europe and in other
5 countries, the foam packaging that is used?
A. The question?
6
Q. I understood it concerned you that foam was harmful to the
7 environment and that was why you switched to sandwich
wraps?
8 A. I did not say that. I said that our switch in the
United States was based on minimising the environmental
9 impact, different options, so if could you rephrase your
question?
10
Q. Do you not want to minimise the environmental impact in
11 Europe?
A. Absolutely.
12
Q. So why have you not switched over to sandwich wraps in
13 Europe?
A. Why have we or have not?
14
Q. Why have you not?
15 A. That is a generic statement. Can you give me one
country in particular?
16
Q. England.
17 A. OK, in England? First of all, I cannot give you the
exact answers since I do not run.
18
Q. I thought you oversaw worldwide?
19 A. I can give you my perspective on it.
20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Does not Mr. Oakley deal with packaging in
England?
21
MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
22
MISS STEEL: Yes, he does but Mr. Langert did say he oversaw
23 something about worldwide package and that it was his
concern to make sure that countries did not keep repeating
24 the experiments that had gone on previously.
25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That may still allow someone knowing more
with regard to England. I am just checking more for my
26 own benefit that Mr. Oakley is packaging UK, so far as the
plaintiffs are concerned, the second plaintiff is
27 concerned?
A. I will give the answer from my perspective. The
28 answer from my perspective is, we made our decision in the
United States based on very specific packages made by
29 specific suppliers compared to other packages. In the
life cycle study that we did was based on those actual
30 manufacturing plants, you know, located in the United
States, the actual source of raw materials, the exact
