Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 66


     
     1        The females are smaller.
     2
     3   Q.   So how much would the females weigh?
     4        A.  Roughly about five.
     5
     6   Q.   Do you know what the stunning current is that is used when
     7        the chickens are slaughtered?
     8        A.  In what country?
     9
    10   Q.   In America.
    11        A.  Yes, I do.
    12
    13   Q.   Can you tell us what that is?
    14        A.  For our suppliers, they are currently using 12 to 14
    15        volts.
    16
    17   Q.   12 to 14 volts.  What type of current is that?
    18        A.  Direct.
    19
    20   Q.   What is the amps?
    21        A.  O.6.
    22
    23   Q.   Do you know what equipment is used by the poultry slaughter
    24        plants?
    25        A.  They use -- you mean in terms of electrical versus gas
    26        or some of the others?
    27
    28   Q.   No.  Is it Simmons Engineering?
    29        A.  I do not know which brand name.  There are a number of
    30        suppliers of equipment that can provide you with that, but
    31        that does not sound familiar for the US.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  When you were talking about the birds, Mr. McDonald
    34        birds, I think you said they were "our birds".  They do not
    35        belong to McDonald's, you do not own them; they are
    36        supplied by the suppliers, yes, but you put a lot of energy
    37        into working with the supplier, yes, in equipment and in
    38        all the methods that are used, yes?
    39        A.  We do, depending on the country.  Those needs will
    40        change.  We can recommend a supplier for equipment,
    41        particular equipment, that we know, we have used it in
    42        another country and we have under those conditions will
    43        provide, will fulfil our needs.  So, we can, yes, in the US
    44        that is always left to the supplier decision.  If they want
    45        to buy it or not, that is up to them.
    46
    47   Q.   I think you said before -- I cannot remember exactly the
    48        circumstances -- about Coope Montecillos, for example, you
    49        actually -----
    50        A.  About what? 
    51 
    52   Q.   About Coope Montecillos, you said something about helping 
    53        people develop certain kinds of equipment?
    54        A.  Oh, yes.
    55
    56   Q.   Do you also do that for bird production, actually put some
    57        money into in some countries, developing equipment?
    58        A.  It would depend on the type of equipment.  You have to
    59        be more specific, but we work with suppliers to -- we used
    60        to do that -- let me take it a little bit back.  We used to

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