Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 28


     
     1        over.  However, it was not universally true; sometimes
     2        people did arrive later, sometimes they left earlier.
     3
     4   Q.   So, it was not an unusual occurrence for people to arrive
     5        late or to leave earlier, basically?
     6        A.  It was not an unusual occurrence for individuals
     7        throughout the time I was there that it happened; it was
     8        not unusual that it happened, no.
     9
    10   Q.   Sometimes, in your notes, you have not mentioned when
    11        individuals arrived or left; you just said so-and-so was
    12        present.  So, you did not note down every time when someone
    13        arrived and every time when someone left?
    14        A.  No, I did not.
    15
    16   Q.   So, for example, if you said on a particular date that
    17        there were seven identified people at that meeting, it
    18        would not mean those seven identified people were at the
    19        meeting the whole time, from the time you arrived to the
    20        time you left?  It may have been that some of them came in
    21        during that meeting or left early?
    22        A.  It may have been.  It was usual for me to note if
    23        people left early or arrived late, but I did not always do
    24        it.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:   1st March, we are on still.
    27
    28        "Present at this meeting were Helen Steel, Jane,
    29        Dave Morris, and the man from Catford, whose name I learned
    30        to be Alan."
    31
    32        So there were four people at this meeting; yes?
    33        A.  Yes, it seems, yes.
    34
    35   Q.   Two of whom were inquiry agents -- no, there were five
    36        people at this meeting, two of whom were inquiry agents?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.  "Due to the lack of numbers and lack of 'essential' people
    40        at the meeting, little was discussed of any import."  You
    41        would agree with that; yes?
    42        A.  That is what is written, yes.
    43
    44   Q.   Then you go on from there with just general information and
    45        personal information about people.  On the following page,
    46        you say, just under halfway down the page:
    47
    48        "Helen shares a house with other people (including
    49        Andrew Clarke)  There are six people in the house in total,
    50        and it is part of a housing cooperative." 
    51 
    52        You confirm that, yes? 
    53        A.  That is what it says, yes.
    54
    55   Q.   Mr. Morris was at this meeting.  If he had been living at
    56        the same house, you would have made a note of it?
    57        A.  Well, I would have made a note if I had known.  I can
    58        only make of a note of what I remember and what I learned
    59        at the meeting, what I hear.
    60

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