Day 143 - 27 Jun 95 - Page 65


     
     1        something that inured to the Corporation?  Clearly, it was
     2        certainly for benefit of the operator, to become an
     3        operator.  There was no legal obligation.
     4
     5   Q.   But in the course of reaching a conclusion on the legal
     6        situation, did you investigate or were you told for how
     7        long he had worked on McDonald's matters?
     8        A.  No, my Lord.  I was told of the things that he would be
     9        doing which were the normal things that someone does to get
    10        ready to become an owner/operator.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  Can I just say that we have not got a copy of that
    13        particular thing in our trial bundles, the Supreme Court
    14        ruling.  It would be very helpful to get that.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When I rise in a quarter of an hour, make
    17        enquiries about that.
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  I am sure we have at home.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look at home tonight.  If you are not happy
    22        in the morning, raise it with Mrs. Brinley-Codd when you
    23        come in.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  It would be of concern to you if a
    26        franchisee was OK until he started making criticisms about
    27        hygiene matters?  If a trainee franchisee was discriminated
    28        against because he made complaints over hygiene matters,
    29        would that concern you?
    30        A.  We would not do that -- let us put it that way.
    31
    32   Q.   But if it did happen, would you be concerned?
    33        A.  I think that people in the Company would be very
    34        concerned who handle those matters, licensee matters.
    35        I think they would be enormously concerned.
    36
    37   Q.   Subject to checking overnight, I think we have finished
    38        that one.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us see if we can do another topic and
    41        perhaps go on for another quarter of an hour.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, we are getting through all the pleadings.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I am not making any criticism.  You are
    46        getting through item by item.  If I have shown impatience
    47        from time to time it is because I think, in all fairness to
    48        you, you have got as far as you have got and you are not
    49        going to achieve any more.  That has been my own view on
    50        one or two occasions, and you must judge for yourself 
    51        whether it is right or not.  Apart from generalities, there 
    52        are 116 specific allegations under this head, Mr. Stein, so 
    53        it is bound to take considerable time.
    54
    55   MR. MORRIS:  If I can just collect my thoughts?  I would prefer
    56        if we did not finish too late today for personal reasons.
    57        I do not know if it may be a good time to stop?
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will go on until quarter past and stop
    60        then.

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