Day 060 - 02 Dec 94 - Page 40
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2 MS. STEEL: I think we have finished on CFCs. I do not know
3 whether ----
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We will break then until 2.00.
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7 (Luncheon adjournment)
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9 2.00 p.m.
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11 MR. MORRIS: I just want to deal with three brief outstanding
12 matters from the morning's evidence. There was the New
13 Zealand document which you have now read, yes?
14 A. Yes, I did.
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16 Q. Apparently, in New Zealand the recycling scheme was quite
17 extensive, was it not?
18 A. I have to say, prior to reading these two newspaper
19 cuttings, I had no knowledge of what was happening in New
20 Zealand.
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22 Q. Right.
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24 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, in that case it means, does it not, if
25 I may submit it, that this witness has no relevant evidence
26 to give on this matter?
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not know. It may very well mean that.
29 It means it is pointless asking him anything about ---
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31 MR. MORRIS: In detail.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- whether he knows anything or it probably
34 means it is pointless asking him anything about New
35 Zealand. If you think that may be wrong, then tell me what
36 you have in mind.
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38 MR. MORRIS: If it was true or if it was established to be true
39 that a recycling scheme, if we can call it a scheme, a bin
40 separation scheme which might be a more appropriate way of
41 describing it, was virtually national throughout the
42 country -- I will ask you a general question rather than on
43 New Zealand. Do you not think it is conning customers that
44 they should believe that McDonald's is playing its part in
45 a recycling system when they are playing their part as
46 customers?
47 A. I do not -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, do not answer that question. There might
50 be legitimate ways you could put it. But you are assuming
51 a state of facts which is not established, and since you
52 clearly are beginning to base it on what happened in New
53 Zealand and he said he did not know -----
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55 MR. MORRIS: It also applied to Nottingham.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, we have been through Nottingham, have we
58 not? You may or may not have a good point on Nottingham.
59 I have read what is there and I understand your point that,
60 for instance, however that paragraph started off, it
