Day 259 - 10 Jun 96 - Page 81


     
     1        26th July 1990?
     2        A.  There is.
     3
     4   Q.   What I am after is a typewritten note for 9th August 1990?
     5        A.  Yes, I have that.
     6
     7   Q.   The last question I have to ask you before I sit down is
     8        this:  You say, "I arrived at 5 Caledonian Road" -- this
     9        appears, as I have said, to have been a note you made the
    10        next day, 10th August?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   "... at 19.30" -- or, as we say in English, 7.30 p.m..
    14        "Present were Jonathan, Jane, Alan from Catford, Charlie
    15        and Mark.  The meeting followed the normal pattern with no
    16        disruptions from the agenda and was 'chaired' by Jane".
    17        Can you remember now, at this distance of time, why you put
    18        the word "chaired" in inverted commas?
    19        A.  Because there was no chair person as such.  The chair
    20        was taken by whoever wanted to at each meeting.
    21
    22   Q.   Then you say:  "The meeting lacked the direction of last
    23        week, probably due to the absence of the leading members of
    24        the group."  I am going to come back to that.  "Most of the
    25        discussion was taken up with trying to decide which
    26        organisations were to be invited to participate in the
    27        so-called workshops planned for the coming Greenpeace
    28        fare.  I had the impression that no one present wished to
    29        be definitive about such matters because whatever they said
    30        would be overruled by the 'non-existent' hierarchy if the
    31        latter disagreed".  Then there is what I take to be a
    32        comment of your own, "so much for anarchy"?
    33        A.  Yes, it was.
    34
    35   Q.   Can I ask you:  At this stage, 9th August 1990, can you
    36        remember who you perceived to be the leading members of the
    37        group or, as you ironically put it, the non-existent
    38        hierarchy?
    39        A.  Paul Gravett, Dave Morris and Helen Steel.
    40
    41   Q.   What was it that -- by this time you had been going a few
    42        times since the middle of May of the same year; this is now
    43        the beginning part of August -- what was it that led you to
    44        the conclusion that the hierarchy, the leading members were
    45        Mr. Gravett, Mr. Morris and Ms. Steel; do you remember now?
    46        A.  My impression was formed mainly because decisions that
    47        were made by these three seemed to be followed by the
    48        remaining members of the group.
    49
    50   Q.   You saw Mr. Morris you told us, for example, in action at 
    51        the meeting on 2nd August, 1990? 
    52        A.  Yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   That is from your first statement.  You have been in court,
    55        I think, today, have you not?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   Is that the first time you have been in court?
    59        A.  Yes.
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