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     1        in some areas are -----
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is exactly what he said in the last
     4        paragraph on that page.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  The point I am making is that a percentage on
     7        top of the sheer cubic volume of wood which we have used in
     8        these calculations would have to be added to take into
     9        consideration, would you say that would be ----
    10        A.  That is a fair statement ---
    11
    12   Q.   Yes.
    13        A.  -- and it will vary.
    14
    15   Q.   Would you say something like 20 per cent would be
    16        reasonable?
    17        A.  Yes, to give a reasonable example, the Forest
    18        Enterprise when calculating the yield for the forest for
    19        which it is responsible has to take into account any
    20        revenue foregone because of all the kind of activities you
    21        are talking about, but a yield class 12 in a forest managed
    22        such as those in south Scotland and in northern England,
    23        this is a reasonable figure of what it will actually
    24        produce.  We can find examples where it has been decided
    25        not to bring all the forest into production and, therefore,
    26        there are variations and, therefore, these figures are not
    27        and cannot be absolutely accurate.
    28
    29   Q.   So would you say some kind of extra, say, 20 per cent or 30
    30        per cent would take into consideration all those
    31        other  -----
    32        A.  Mr. Morris, I would be perfectly happy to take either
    33        figure where it is relevant.  It will depend entirely on
    34        the processes, as I say, of silviculture in different
    35        regions.
    36
    37   Q.   But something in the area -----
    38        A.  We would be reasonably happy between us to take either
    39        10 or 20, I think, of revenue foregone because of
    40        environmental considerations in the management of forests.
    41
    42   Q.   We cannot put trees on a river or anything.  What I am
    43        saying is there are inevitable areas that are not under
    44        trees.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not forget we are dealing with areas which
    47        are felled or thinned.  You are not going to cut down
    48        hectares of river surface or things like that.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  That is the point I am making, that when we talk 
    51        about forest size that is needed to provide X volume, and 
    52        if we calculate the cubic volume on the basis of a standard 
    53        hectare, as Mr. Thompson has done and, as he says at the
    54        end, "there also is an indeterminate amount of extra forest
    55        area needed" on top of these calculations, then you think
    56        something like 15 per cent would be a reasonable working
    57        figure?
    58        A.  I think for the purposes that we are talking about
    59        here, a figure of that nature would be very reasonable to
    60        understand because he is drawing attention to this very

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