Day 180 - 31 Oct 95 - Page 18


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  The witness's one has been done, my Lord.  He is
     3        fishing for the kingfisher; he should be fishing for the
     4        powder blue.
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     6   MR. MORRIS:  It is the one at the top.  I do not know what
     7        number it is though.
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     9   MR. RAMPTON:  It is 3.
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    11   MR. MORRIS:  Could we just request a five minute break now?
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    15   MR. MORRIS:  It is page 3 of his statement, I believe.  That is
    16        the relevant page.
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    18   THE WITNESS:  I have it.
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    20   MR. MORRIS:  May we have a five minute break?
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I just wanted to get myself a bit
    23        organised.  What I suggest is you go on about your break,
    24        just ignore me and I will move the statements across to the
    25        bundle.  Just carry on.
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  Five minutes break.
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    29                         (Short adjournment)
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am organised it into the new bundles now.
    32        Thank you.
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  We are on page 3.
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    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have that?
    37        A.  I do.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  You can put it in front of you.  If you just look
    40        down that page and say, if you want to -- what do you want
    41        to say about those matters?
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    43   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not believe that is the right way of
    44        proceeding.  There is only one matter on that page about
    45        which Mr. Pearson could possibly have any knowledge at all,
    46        and that is possibly the first two sentences of the first
    47        complete paragraph.
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    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You see, all this arises, I assume, from
    50        paragraph 11 of Mr. Pearson's second statement.  I had 
    51        anticipated that you would want to ask him about the David 
    52        McGee matters as he experienced them, that is, ask for such 
    53        admissible evidence as Mr. Pearson could actually give.
    54        Then I would hear Mr. Pearson's evidence about that in the
    55        normal way -- just sticking to what Mr. Pearson actually
    56        saw or heard himself.
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    58   MR. MORRIS:  I was just going to ask Mr. Pearson -----
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    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The difficulty is, you see, if you just ask

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