Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 57


     
     1        A.  Yes, every Wednesday and the first Tuesday in every
     2        months.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It has a cattle market, has it, still?
     5        A.  Yes.  Generally it is a horse market now.  In those
     6        days it had cattle and calves.  Now it has other animals on
     7        the first Tuesday of every month and every Wednesday it has
     8        a few goats and sheep and some pigs, but the main mixed
     9        market is on other days.  I have also been concerned with
    10        other markets, Guildford is one, for example.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  Have you ever been directly concerned in animal
    13        husbandry?
    14        A.  My contact is, as I mentioned yesterday, I suppose the
    15        husbandry I am involved with is this farm in Burwash.
    16
    17   Q.   Can we leave that on one side?  I will come to that
    18        I promise.  Leaving that on one side, have you had any
    19        farming experience?
    20        A.  No.  I have worked for a week or so on a farm but that
    21        is all.
    22
    23   Q.   An old fashioned sort of farm?
    24        A.  Yes, mixed farming generally.
    25
    26   Q.   But not an intensive modern farm?
    27        A.  No.
    28
    29   Q.   Tell me a little bit, if you will, about this I think you
    30        called it a farm animal sanctuary, in effect, is that
    31        right?
    32        A.  Yes.
    33
    34   Q.   Where is it?
    35        A.  Burwash in East Sussex.
    36
    37   Q.   How long has that existed?
    38        A.  That has actually existed for, I think, 20 years or
    39        possibly a bit more.  I have not been involved with it for
    40        more than about seven or eight years.
    41
    42   Q.   I think you said it had roughly 60 heads of cattle and
    43        sheep?
    44        A.  Right.
    45
    46   Q.   How many of those are cattle?
    47        A.  Most of those are now cattle, I would think probably 50
    48        or 55.
    49
    50   Q.   Is that a stable population or does it change as you find 
    51        new animals to bring into the sanctuary? 
    52        A.  We cannot afford to bring any more in.  It changes 
    53        slowly as the elderly ones die.
    54
    55   Q.   That is the limit, apart from observations you have been
    56        making which I will ask you about as well, of your direct
    57        experience in animal husbandry, is it?
    58        A.  I have obviously visited a large number of farms.
    59
    60   Q.   But you have not worked extensively with the animals on a

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