Day 181 - 01 Nov 95 - Page 56


     
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     2   Q.   Lynne Mead, and it is a document E3.
     3        A.  Can you tell me the heading?
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is on the page after the one you were
     6        looking at a little while ago.  It has "current employees
     7        by length of service for the company" on it.
     8        A.  Yes.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Mr. Rampton referred to this document?
    11        A.  Yes.
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    13   Q.   This shows the length of service of current employees as of
    14        those particular dates specified -- if we just look at the
    15        first column, for convenience.  If, for all 28,000
    16        employees, this is the length of service at any one time of
    17        current employees, what does that tell you about the
    18        turnover in the Company ---
    19        A.  I am afraid -----
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    21   Q.   -- of people that leave and how long they may have stayed
    22        with the Company?
    23        A.  It is very difficult, is it not, to work out actual
    24        turnover figures from length of service figures?  You can
    25        only -- because turnover figures are always annualised, and
    26        these service figures cover up to 120 months.  So, you
    27        know, you have not got proper turnover figures here.  But,
    28        nevertheless, you can see from the proportion that had been
    29        working for the Company for less than six months, which is,
    30        you know, getting on for 35 per cent, 30 per cent -----
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    32   Q.   In fact, in the previous quarter, which is less than six
    33        months, it is about 40 odd per cent?
    34        A.  Yes.  So that begins to suggest, you know, a high
    35        turnover figure.  Certainly, yesterday we talked about the
    36        industry average, 35.6 or 36.4, or something, one of those
    37        two -- 36.4.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you look at the figures, the ones who fall
    40        in the brackets up to six month come out at 39.2 per cent.
    41        A.  Yes.
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    43   Q.   There are 56.25 per cent in the total of the brackets up to
    44        12 months, and there are 74.61 per cent in the total in the
    45        brackets up to four months.
    46        A.  Yes.  I mean, it is slightly surprising to me that the
    47        actual annualised turnover figures -- perhaps they have
    48        been made available, but -- are not provided for this
    49        current period, because it must be possible to get them
    50        from the same data that provides -- the same database -- 
    51        the same database that provides these data, this printout, 
    52        should be able to generate quite a lot of other profiles, 
    53        including annual turnover.
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    55   MR. MORRIS:  I think we have got the annual turnover.  OK.  All
    56        I am saying is -- it may be a slightly leading question
    57        and, fair enough, but I do not mind if it is given no
    58        weight; I am just trying to say what I am trying to say --
    59        if something like between 13 and 20 per cent in the Company
    60        have worked with the Company less than two months on those

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