Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 66
1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not let us embark on the argument now; you
2 be prepared in case it is not. I have got the point as to
3 what it may mean to a member of the public if the read that
4 something is recycled. Just pause for a moment because you
5 have, no doubt, been distracted by all that argument. Let
6 us go on to about quarter past four.
7
8 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Could you just explain the
9 documents, the supplementary documents? There is a whole
10 list after the delivery shipping date print-out things?
11 A. Yes.
12
13 Q. There is a whole list of documents which at the bottom say
14 "changes since last issue" and it says "first issue", yes,
15 and all through those documents it says "first issue"?
16 A. Yes.
17
18 Q. What does that mean? Does that mean that these items that
19 are at the top -- could you just explain what that means
20 anyway?
21 A. These are relatively new currently used specifications.
22
23 Q. So were there specifications before that or these were the
24 first time specifications have been made?
25 A. No, there were specifications before this, maybe not
26 for all these items, but for just a different ring number
27 because the case packaging changed or something like that.
28
29 Q. Some of the specifications include recycled content such as
30 the third one, it says "Material recycled content minimum
31 72 per cent". The first one says, 80 per cent recycled
32 unbleached paper, the A bag. The ones that do not have
33 recycled content specified in these specifications -----
34 A. Just to clarify, these are three specifications. You
35 have a first page and a second page on every
36 specification. All three of these specify a recycled
37 content.
38
39 Q. These are only for three items then?
40 A. Yes, these were more examples than anything else as to
41 how we specify to our suppliers to use a certain amount of
42 recycled content.
43
44 Q. I see. It is only for the items that you produced anyway?
45 A. Yes.
46
47 Q. That you are responsible for?
48 A. Yes.
49
50 Q. When it says at the end of that "copyright 1994" on the
51 last one of those series?
52 A. Yes.
53
54 Q. Is that because it is a print-out from a computer?
55 A. Not that is when -- these were made in 1994. As
56 I said, these are recent specifications.
57
58 Q. I see.
59
60 MS. STEEL: Say on the fry carton on page 1 of 2: "A supplier
