Day 021 - 29 Jul 94 - Page 46
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2 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do have something to say about it; at
what stage I should say it, I do not know.
3
MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think this afternoon.
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MR. RAMPTON: All right.
5
MR. JUSTICE BELL: Any other time but not this afternoon.
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MS. STEEL: I do not know if you could get pink volume VI?
7 A. OK, I have it here.
8 Q. If we could turn to document No. 4, page 51. Mr. Rampton
put this to you when he was -----
9 A. Can I be sure I have the right page? It says: "What
else is needed for a healthy diet?"
10
Q. That is the one. The paragraph: "In recent years doctors
11 and nutritionists have also become aware of other
important factors in healthy eating. There is a
12 considerable amount of evidence to suggest that many of
the diseases which are more common in the western,
13 affluent world- diseases such as obesity, diabetes, high
blood pressure, heart disease, stroke and some forms of
14 cancer are related to diet. The typical western diet is
relatively low in dietary fibre (roughage) and high in
15 fat, salt sugar".
16 Mr. Rampton asked you whether, as a statement of the state
of knowledge in 1985, or thereabouts, whether you thought
17 that that struck you as being fair and accurate, and you
said, yes. Do you feel that it is a fair and accurate
18 statement now of the situation?
A. Yes.
19
Q. You do. Moving on to page 1 of your first statement.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Tab 5 of yellow V?
21 A. Is that page 23?
22 MS. STEEL: 24.
A. OK.
23
Q. Actually, you said in court previously that you had put
24 the links between fat and cancer at three out of 10.
Where would you put the links between diet and cancer on
25 that scale?
A. What do you mean by "the links"?
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Whether what you eat is related causally to
27 cancer?
A. Right. In that sense, I would tend to go along with
28 Doll and Peto who estimated that it is somewhere, I think,
between 10 and 70 per cent.
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MS. STEEL: But on your scale of one to 10, where would you put
30 the links between diet and cancer?
A. You cannot relate it in the way you can to a specific
