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1 court to see whether there is brain stem activity, but
absolutely no hope, it is suggested by the doctors, that
2 any recovery of consciousness. Is it that sort of
situation?
3 A. It is a bit more than that. In the context that the
animal has had its throat cut, lost some of its blood, so
4 the added chance of it coming round is diminished more.
5 MS. STEEL: That would depend on the type of cut?
A. It would indeed, yes.
6
Q. It would also depend on, might depend on the length of
7 time between that cut?
A. I have known of situations where birds have come
8 around. They have been taken off the line at that point
unconscious, then they have come around subsequently.
9 I have known this, but it is very unusual.
10 Q. But it is possible. That is why it is in the
recommendations?
11 A. Yes, fair comment.
12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Rampton, while Ms. Steel is taking
instructions, can you just make sure I understand, if
13 I look at tab 6 on the first page, it says, "it is the
defendants' case that the methods of slaughter used are
14 cruel". That is in relation to cattle, chicken and pigs?
15 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There is no request, is there, which asks in
what respects so that the defendants, as it were, are
17 asked to specify.
18 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, there is, on page 6.2. The answer is given
at (ii) on page 7; so far as chickens are concerned, at
19 the second part of that paragraph, which is the point
I was, I think, trying to make earlier. My Lord, I want
20 to make it clear. I am not trying to shut this evidence
out. I do want to know at what it is directed in due
21 course, what the case now is because, plainly, it is not
the case that is pleaded.
22
MS. STEEL: I do not understand this. We have to
23 cross-examine on what is in his statement.
24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a moment: I would have thought
it is arguable that it comes within the particulars in any
25 event, but I am not minded to be over technical about it.
26 MR. RAMPTON: Nor am I, but I would like to know what the case
is in due course.
27
MR. MORRIS: At the risk of labouring the point I would say it
28 does come under the defence.
29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You do not have to, Mr. Morris.
30 MS. STEEL: Just to finish off, you said that -- maybe I will
not, I will just leave it there.
