Day 152 - 11 Jul 95 - Page 41


     
     1        A.  Yes, I have.
     2
     3   Q.   On other people?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   Can you turn then, please, to the third page, three pages
     7        up from the pie chart and there is a section about
     8        employment of young persons; do you see that?
     9        A.  No.  Section 6?
    10
    11   Q.   Yes, section 6.
    12        A.  Yes, found it.
    13
    14   Q.   "Legal continued, employment of young persons.  Under age
    15        employees under leaving school age 40; employment of under
    16        18 year olds knowledge and practice 100", and you score 140
    17        for that.  Can you tell us exactly what do those scores
    18        represent?  What do they mean?  What is being marked by the
    19        examiner?
    20        A.  Well, the fact that we are adhering to the regulations
    21        and legislation dealing with employment of young persons.
    22        So, both under age employees as in under school leaving age
    23        as in you are not employing anybody under school leaving
    24        age.
    25
    26   Q.   That is right.  It is not a bonus for employing a lot of
    27        them?
    28        A.  The legislation, as I remember it, was not as strict,
    29        you could not employ anybody less than 16 years old; it was
    30        of school leaving age, which may be 16 and three months or
    31        16 and five months dependent on the time of year and where
    32        that birthday fell.  As far as the employment of under 18
    33        year olds as that which we spoke of a minute ago dealing
    34        with females under 18 and males under 18, 12 o'clock and
    35        10 o'clock.
    36
    37   Q.   We have called this a personnel audit.  Is that a fair way
    38        of describing this document?
    39        A.  Yes, it is.
    40
    41   Q.   Mr. Stanton came and did a personnel audit on your premises
    42        and, presumably, filled in one of these forms.  Would he
    43        show it to you at the end of what he had done?
    44        A.  Yes, he would.
    45
    46   Q.   What did he look at in order to fill in, if anything, help
    47        him fill in this page, do you know?
    48        A.  He would look at the clock cords, he would look at
    49        payroll summary, he would look at the schedule, and within
    50        all those three things that would cover all the legislation 
    51        aspects of it. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Now when we were in Colchester in 1985/86 the procedures
    54        for making sure that there were not people working later
    55        than they should, and so on and so forth, they were all
    56        manual, were they?
    57        A.  That is correct, yes.
    58
    59   Q.   There were forms and there were clock cards?
    60        A.  Yes.

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