Day 193 - 28 Nov 95 - Page 12
1 his card back if he wanted to?
2 A. No, I did not.
3
4 Q. Did you recruit Steve Fox?
5 A. I believe I did.
6
7 Q. Tell us what grade he was in; same one as you?
8 A. He was in the same grade as I was.
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10 Q. Did he telephone you the same night as you recruited him,
11 towards the end of September, and ask for his card back?
12 A. No.
13
14 Q. He did not?
15 A. No.
16
17 Q. Do you remember being angry that Kristian de Haus wanted
18 his card back?
19 A. Of course I was upset. Kristian had flip-flopped on
20 me. He had signed and then he had said, "No, I want my
21 card back", and then he said, "No, keep it." Then, after
22 I had submitted the cards to Rui, he said, "Well, I am not
23 too sure about this any more." I said, "Listen, I do not
24 have your card. I cannot do anything about it. Here is
25 Rui's phone number. You can call him and, you know,
26 whatever you want to do." But that situation was out of my
27 hands.
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29 Q. Was Mr. Amorim with you on some of these occasions when
30 people were signed up?
31 A. Not really; maybe on two or three, but not -- no, not
32 usually.
33
34 Q. Are you saying that Steve Fox never asked for his card
35 back?
36 A. I am saying that.
37
38 Q. It follows that you did not tell him: "It is too late.
39 They went in on 20th September"?
40 A. I did not say that. How would I have been able to say
41 that if I had had a conversation with Michelle? I mean, if
42 he wanted his card back, he would have been able to call
43 Rui, because if you are saying, you know -- if I signed
44 Michelle up on the 27th, he would still have been able to
45 call Rui; and I would have told him that, had he asked me
46 for his card back, but he did not.
47
48 Q. Did you sign up Carl Peterson? (Pause) Let me give you
49 some detail; maybe it will remind you: after the close at
50 about two in the morning, in your car, where you made a
51 presentation to him, a speech. Do you remember that?
52 A. I do not remember the situation quite that well. I did
53 not know him that well.
54
55 Q. So you would not remember telling him that he would get an
56 automatic five to 10 per cent increase?
57 A. I never promised that to anyone. I told them the only
58 thing that is guaranteed is job security, dignity and
59 respect, and that all other aspects would have to be
60 negotiated.
