Day 208 - 24 Jan 96 - Page 17


     
     1        couple of people that have not attended any.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:  If people are tripping on a tile, or something like
     4        that, and it is something they want raised at a rap
     5        session, they do not all have to go, do they?  They can
     6        say, you know:  "Fred is going, he is going to raise it,
     7        let us leave it to him"?
     8        A.  Yes, that is the way it works.  To be perfectly honest
     9        with you, the notice will go up saying that the rap session
    10        will be in two weeks, or whatever time, at what time and
    11        what day, and by the time, you know, an hour or two before
    12        the meeting, everybody knows what is going to be said in
    13        the meeting, because everybody has discussed it, or you
    14        find little groups that have discussed things; and you can
    15        always tell.
    16
    17   Q.   So, generally, things that are said are not necessarily
    18        just like an isolated person, just one person?
    19        A.  They may not be, they may be; it depends.  I could not
    20        tell you on every single incident.  But the people with the
    21        major complaints such as PRs, and that sort of thing, then
    22        yes, they would go along.  It is the kind of more minor
    23        things, such as the equipment in the store, that six of you
    24        do not go along to complain about the fact that we have not
    25        got any spatulas or have not got enough spatulas, or .....
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They go along because they have some
    28        particular point to make, and then they would be asked
    29        about all these other things anyway?
    30        A.  Yes.  It is structured with the questions, yes.
    31
    32   Q.   If there was not a spatula, they would have the opportunity
    33        to mention it, I assume, even though that was not the
    34        reason why they went in the first place?
    35        A.  Yes, sure.
    36
    37   Q.   So, you were not suggesting that there were more complaints
    38        than there might be because it was the people with
    39        attitude ---
    40        A.  Not -----
    41
    42   Q.   -- who went along to the meeting?
    43        A.  No.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE RAMPTON:  Very well then.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:  In your statement -- it is actually the last page,
    48        paragraph 31, page 8:  "There are regular rap sessions and
    49        crew meetings, some of which I have attended."  They are
    50        supposed to be held how often? 
    51        A.  Quarterly, I believe, or every four months.  I am not 
    52        sure of the amount. 
    53
    54   Q.   Would it surprise you that there was no rap session between
    55        June 1992 and May 1993, a period of 11 months?
    56        A.  Yes, it would.
    57
    58   Q.   So you do not remember that?
    59        A.  No.
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