Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 39
1 Q. Yes, I have not come to the details of that yet; I am just
2 talking about in general, the thinnings, yes?
3 A. The thinnings in terms of number of trees, yes.
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5 Q. Right. Do you happen to know what the volume of thinnings
6 is compared to the final felling, the clear cutting, the
7 volume of a typical Fin tree? What I am saying is that the
8 trees that are thinned go to the mill like the ones that
9 are felled?
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a movement and collect your
12 thoughts on the question and then ask it.
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14 MR. MORRIS: When the trees are thinned, they go to the mill in
15 any event, yes? So, what would be the average size of the
16 maybe 4,000 trees that are thinned compared to the ones
17 that are felled?
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you answer that question? Some of
20 them -----
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22 MR. MORRIS: Are they half the size?
23 A. You are asking me how long is a piece of string, the
24 question. It is very difficult to tell you because we are
25 talking about three thinnings; the first thinning is going
26 to produce relatively small trees, the second thinning,
27 relatively larger trees; the third one, deficient trees in
28 one form and another and, finally, the reason for the final
29 felling is that the ones remaining are fundamentally of
30 value for sawmill product. They are, therefore, trees of
31 this sort of substance and not of that sort of substance.
32 For me to give you an answer is really to give you a false
33 answer, because it could be anything between X and Y.
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35 What he is saying here is quite logical, is what does a
36 hectare or an acre, whichever way you look at it because he
37 starts with acres for some reason, what it will yield? He
38 also is showing what it will grow on an annual basis. The
39 growth is 5.4 metre cube per acre. Now, in fact, in
40 England just to show you how varied this is, I mean England
41 and Scotland, we get five metre cube per hectare. He is
42 talking about five metre cube per acre. Now, why is that?
43 One would have to ask the question why you have a very
44 different factor here. And it just shows how varied these
45 forests are.
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47 One must assume he is talking -- no, actually, he is not;
48 he is talking about "A" is annum; it is not acre. So, he
49 is talking about five metre cubes/A meaning annum, and that
50 means five metre cube per hectare per annum, which is
51 comparable to our own. I am sorry, but I have not seen
52 this document before. "A" means "annum" and not "acre".
53 So, he has a growth rate there which is comparable to our
54 own growth rate and, therefore, when we do come around to
55 my figures for yield from the forest, it looks as if his is
56 comparable.
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58 Q. When they are doing thinnings, would that, in general, go
59 to pulp or would that go to sawmill?
60 A. The thinnings, generally, will go to pulp because they
