Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 31


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  And they sell those granulates?
     2        A.  That granulate can be sold either on its own or mixed
     3        with post-industrial waste or even mixed with virgin waste,
     4        virgin polystyrene, if you will.
     5
     6   Q.   So are they selling all the granulates they produce?
     7        A.  At this point in time they can actually, but something
     8        I indicated earlier, the prices of virgin polystyrene have
     9        risen sharply over the last -- in the last year so,
    10        therefore, the recyclate market has picked up considerably
    11        as well, and they can find markets for it quite easily at
    12        the moment.
    13
    14   Q.   Are they selling all of it or some of it?
    15        A.  At the moment they can sell practically all of it.
    16
    17   Q.   So a year ago they had problems in that they could not find
    18        buyers?
    19        A.  Yes, it started changing around the beginning of this
    20        year.
    21
    22   Q.   So would it be fair to say that as from the beginning of
    23        this year they have begun to actually commercially use what
    24        they have produced?
    25        A.  They have commercially used it always but in the past
    26        it has been a loss making or barely-break even process, and
    27        since in -- when exactly, I do not have the information on
    28        when this has actually become like a real feasible option
    29        because of the situation, the international market price
    30        for virgin polystyrene, it has actually now become a
    31        feasible operation for them.
    32
    33   Q.   I am just trying to get on top of this.  What were they
    34        doing with it, with the material that they received at the
    35        plant, for turning into granulates?  What were they doing
    36        before they commercially viably sell it?  What were they
    37        actually doing with it?
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Presumably, they were selling it but not
    40        selling enough of it to do more than make a loss or barely
    41        break-even?
    42        A.  Or sell it at lower prices.  Eventually, you will sell
    43        it but -----
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Eventually you sell it but at -----
    46        A.  Yes, or you have to store it temporarily until you can
    47        sell it, but -----
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  What I am saying is, they were collecting from, is
    50        it, four restaurants originally? 
    51        A.  I do not know.  The Manchester trial -- because I have 
    52        not been involved in that first trial; I have only been or 
    53        involved in -- I am aware of the Manchester trial which has
    54        involved five restaurants, if I am not mistaken, and that
    55        still is ongoing.
    56
    57   Q.   But of the material that was collected, the polystyrene
    58        material that was collected, in those restaurants by the
    59        customers, put in by the customers in the separate bins,
    60        and taken to -- would it all have been taken to the Lin Pac

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