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     1        to do it if we have this Jack rabbit stuff going on.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is you say here and now that
     4        you would like The Times section reproduced with enough
     5        copies for everyone in a way which leaves it legible,
     6        because it did have a number of potentially interesting
     7        things on it really in almost every column or every other
     8        column.
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:  I think that would be helpful.  The photocopier
    11        round the corner has got A3, but I cannot actually fit a
    12        whole newspaper on the copier in one go.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Rampton, now he knows it needs to be
    15        done, is going to see what can be done.
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:  I have various questions about the other figures
    18        that are given as well, but I am just wondering if it would
    19        not be better to wait until we see what is in this
    20        suppliers' file.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, in the first instance, I said that we
    23        would look at the suppliers' file.  It may contain nothing
    24        of any interest or significance in which case, no go.  I do
    25        not want to bring Mr. Oakley back.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest is you do put your points of
    28        contest in relation to amounts of recycled paper.  You have
    29        done the paper bags.  If there are other ones, do it. If
    30        you have got something as apparently straightforward as
    31        Smith Anderson saying "this very year 80 per cent" rather
    32        than 100 in relation to other items, perhaps it is worth
    33        coming back to that straightaway.  It may not be as clear
    34        cut as regards to other items, I do not know.
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:  Mr. Oakley did say that there would be documents in
    37        the suppliers' file.  That being so, the point is they
    38        should be disclosed.  We did apply for them some time ago
    39        and I think the answer was they did not exist.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That may be.  Mr. Rampton's point is only
    42        this, that if you do not ask Mr. Oakley about it now, you
    43        are going to say at some stage in the future:  "I would
    44        like him to come back so I can cross-examine him about
    45        that", or you may very well do.  If you ask him some
    46        questions, at least, on each of the topics which you
    47        challenge, it may very well not be necessary for him to
    48        come back or someone else may be provided in his place if
    49        it is inconvenient for him.
    50 
    51   MS. STEEL:  Firstly, I think I should say I am not going to 
    52        finish this afternoon anyway. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, I had understood that.  Since you are not
    55        going to finish anyway, pick a time at about 4 o'clock and
    56        we will break off then.  I think you should put the essence
    57        of the dispute anyway on any item where you do dispute the
    58        percentage or the date to Mr. Oakley while he is here.
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:  Napkins, you said that prior to January 1991 they

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