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     2   THE WITNESS:  I understand.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Quite apart from Mr. Rampton's
     5        cross-examination, there may be re-examination, I do not
     6        know.  What sort of notice do you have to give to change
     7        your flight?
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     9   THE WITNESS:  I have not checked on that, but I came here to
    10        provide evidence to the court and I am glad to do that for
    11        as long as necessary.  I will take whatever steps are
    12        needed.  If it is possible for me to return back to
    13        America on Thursday I would like to do that, but if not
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is always difficult to estimate the
    17        length of cross-examination.  Is it thought that there
    18        will be any risk that cross-examination and re-examination
    19        will extend beyond the close of play on Thursday?
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    21   MR. RAMPTON:  No.  I would hope your Lordship now appreciates
    22        that I am of the general, at least, if I can be, of the
    23        short rather than the long route cross-examiner, but there
    24        is a lot of reading that Dr. Barnard and I shall have to
    25        do together which has not been done yet.  That is bound to
    26        take all of tomorrow.  I would expect I might trickle into
    27        Thursday, but I would hope and am almost certain that
    28        Dr. Barnard would be free to leave on Friday.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I would advise you to do, Dr. Barnard,
    31        is see if you can change your flight to Friday and leave
    32        yourself available to be in court the whole of tomorrow
    33        and the whole of Thursday.
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    35   THE WITNESS:  Very good.
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    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What it looks like is that you will be in
    38        the witness box all of tomorrow.  That being so, if at any
    39        stage during the day you would like a break say so.  The
    40        cross-examination may go into Thursday.  We will probably
    41        then have a bit of a break so that Ms. Steel and
    42        Mr. Morris can think about any re-examination and then we
    43        will complete the re-examination on Thursday.
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    45   THE WITNESS:  Very good.
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    47   MR. MORRIS:  There is just one point about the Food for Life
    48        book.  Mr. Rampton, I am not making a cheap point, always
    49        complains that we do not have a full document.  I do not
    50        mind that he has only given us parts of the document, but 
    51        as it seems to be used for credit.  If Mr. Rampton is 
    52        using it for more than that, I do not know whether the 
    53        rest of it should be copied or whatever, but if it is for
    54        that purpose only then it does not matter to us to have
    55        the whole document.
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    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a book which is actually written by
    58        Dr. Barnard himself.  So, I would expect that if
    59        Mr. Rampton takes a point on one page and Dr. Barnard
    60        thinks that that is a partial view of the matter, he will

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