Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 55


     
     1        Let me just ask one thing, because it may be important.
     2        (To the witness): It is no slur on Orangeville that it is
     3        not one of the major metropolises in the world.  Are there
     4        any really big industries in Orangeville; are there any big
     5        factories?
     6        A.  We have -- they are not huge factories, but we do have
     7        factories in the town, like.
     8
     9   Q.   Do you know whether they are unionised at all?  As a result
    10        of all of this, have you learned whether they are
    11        unionised?
    12        A.  I know where my boyfriend used to work, it is
    13        unionised; and the one he is working at now is being
    14        unionised.  It is a factory.
    15
    16   Q.   Was a member of the union?
    17        A.  Where he worked?
    18
    19   Q.   Yes.
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.   Are other members of your family, do you know, union
    23        members?
    24        A.  They are not members of unions, no.
    25
    26   Q.   But unions are not strange to Orangeville.  I mean, there
    27        are unions -----
    28        A.  The only place I really know of them is in the
    29        factories and the hospital; that is the only place I know
    30        of, that I can think of right now, where unions are.
    31
    32   Q.   There is not a big pulp mill, or anything like that, in
    33        Orangeville?
    34        A.  No.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  You said that the fact that the under-18s at the
    37        store, that Cam Ballantyne wanted to take away their choice
    38        to join a union, in his application to the Labour Court,
    39        would not bother because you were over 18; is that correct,
    40        you said that?
    41        A.  Yes, I did.
    42
    43   Q.   Yes.  So you do not really care about other people's rights
    44        then, just yourself; is that correct?
    45        A.  No.  I do care about other people's rights.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  The Defendants have to make a case against the
    48        Plaintiffs in this action that something happened at
    49        Orangeville which is attributable to some kind of worldwide
    50        policy whose effect is to do everything that is possible, 
    51        to compel franchisees to do everything that is possible, to 
    52        obstruct unionisation.  What does it matter what Miss Wetli 
    53        thinks about the rights of 18-year-olds?
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not think it is going to help me.
    56        I mean, one -----
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  I think it is very significant.  What Miss Wetli
    59        thinks may be a separate matter, but it is important in
    60        terms of her evidence that she was given against our

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