Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 51
1 Q. OK. But there may have been some exceptions?
2 A. There may be.
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4 MS. STEEL: Can I just ask: when you said there may have been
5 later meetings when you did not mention everyone who
6 attended, you were referring to people whose names you did
7 not know, so you could not mention their names?
8 A. Yes, yes, people who I did not know. There were
9 occasions when two or three people would attend meetings
10 that I had never seen before.
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12 Q. But in terms of people whose names you knew, you would have
13 made a note of their names had they attended?
14 A. I am fairly sure I would, yes.
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16 MR. MORRIS: You then named a list of people who attended
17 regularly, do you remember, when Mr. Rampton asked you --
18 the "regulars" you called them; do you remember?
19 A. I do not remember calling them regulars. I remember
20 giving a list.
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22 MS. STEEL: You did actually call them regulars.
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24 MR. MORRIS: You named, I think, what you called regulars:
25 Paul Gravett, Helen Steel, Dave Morris, Jane,
26 Andrew Clarke; and there were some other regulars, what you
27 called regulars; yes?
28 A. Yes.
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30 Q. The people that only attended a handful of meetings or less
31 than a handful of meetings while you were going, in that
32 period you were going, they would not have been able to
33 have any influence on what was going on generally; do you
34 agree with that?
35 A. No, I do not agree with that. I am not quite sure what
36 you mean by "handful", to begin with. But, secondly, there
37 were obviously some people who had had an association with
38 the group for a long time and whose views were respected;
39 and those people were generally listened to, should they
40 attend.
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42 Q. But in terms of organisational matters, they would not have
43 been involved in the day-to-day organisational matters?
44 A. I am not sure enough about what you are saying and
45 about you what you mean by "handful". I am not sure who
46 you are referring to.
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48 Q. Right. You attended 26 meetings at least; those are the
49 ones that are named; and I presume you attended others
50 where the details have not gone down in the statements and
51 in the notes. Obviously, you turned over all your notes,
52 did you not, to the agency?
53 A. I did, yes.
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55 Q. But only the ones that have been disclosed, that the
56 solicitors decided to rely on; yes? Do you know how many
57 meetings -- have you any idea of how many meetings did not
58 crop up in the statements in the end?
59 A. I have no idea at all, no.
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