Day 094 - 01 Mar 95 - Page 50


     
     1        probability that does not happen, yes.
     2
     3   Q.   What are the other things you can do then?
     4        A.  You can use what is a bunging technique where you have
     5        to, also the area, the anus is also tied up.  You could
     6        apply a -- cover the tail with plastic.
     7
     8   Q.   Cover the tail with plastic?
     9        A.  Yes, with a plastic bag to prevent it from
    10        contaminating the carcass or other carcasses.
    11
    12   Q.   But how would that help with contamination from leaking or
    13        breaking the bladder ingestor from the paunch and bile from
    14        the liver.  That would not help with that, would it?
    15        A.  I think in the whole digestive tract, and the part, let
    16        us start with the anus, will contaminate, the tail will be
    17        part of that.  So, if you cover that area and tie it up on
    18        both sides with both ends, that will help prevent that.  By
    19        creating a higher conscious with the employees, you will
    20        get that not very often.
    21
    22   Q.   So does it depend on how carefully they do the job?
    23        A.  To some degree, yes.
    24
    25   Q.   So the faster they are doing it, the less care they are
    26        likely to be taking?
    27        A.  No, that is incorrect.  There is plenty of evidence
    28        that that is not the case.  It is fairly well documented.
    29        If that was the case there would be regulations limiting
    30        the speed of the animals to the speeds at which they are
    31        run today.
    32
    33   Q.   Is it illegal for this kind of contamination to take place?
    34        A.  Yes, faecal, there is a regulation that requires
    35        (indecipherable) tolerance, so faecal contamination is
    36        considered an adulterant, a tainted meat.
    37
    38   Q.   What about ingestor from the paunch and bile from the
    39        liver, would that be breaking any laws?
    40        A.  It is -- yes.
    41
    42   Q.   It would be?
    43        A.  Any part of the ingestor, yes.
    44
    45   Q.   So when you have seen it happen has that meat been
    46        immediately rejected then?
    47        A.  That is correct.
    48
    49   Q.   So do the companies reject a large percentage of the meat
    50        because of this? 
    51        A.  No. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Does that happen anywhere in the United States?
    54        A.  Yes, that has happened.
    55
    56   Q.   Would you agree that once the spillage from the large
    57        intestine occurred everything on the table including the
    58        by-products become contaminated?
    59        A.  If there is a spillage of the digestive tract, yes, it
    60        becomes contaminated.

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