Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 35


     
     1        A.  No, it does not.  It says "adequately stunned".
     2
     3   Q.   It does not give a -----
     4        A.  It does not qualify.  It uses adjectives like
     5        "adequate".
     6
     7   Q.   In terms of farming, perhaps, I do not know whether you
     8        know this or not, I do not know whether this is really your
     9        field, but do EC directives cover welfare on that in that
    10        area?
    11        A.  No.
    12
    13   Q.   They do not?
    14        A.  No.
    15
    16   Q.   Did you say you have had your farm for two years?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   You have not had a farm before that?
    20        A.  No.
    21
    22   Q.   You are actually involved on a day-to-day basis with the
    23        farm?
    24        A.  Yes.
    25
    26   Q.   You are?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   Q.   So you split your time between McKey and the farm now?
    30        A.  I have a meeting with my stockman every morning before
    31        I go to the office.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You live on the farm, do you?
    34        A.  Yes, sir.
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:  So they run the farm but they tell you what is going
    37        on?
    38        A.  They run the farm but I tell them what they are going
    39        to do.
    40
    41   Q.   But in terms of actually going out there and doing the
    42        work?
    43        A.  Do I drive a tractor and muck out -- yes, I do
    44        occasionally.
    45
    46   Q.   You do occasionally?
    47        A.  Yes.
    48
    49   Q.   So, really, your experience has been at the meat end of
    50        things, would you agree? 
    51        A.  If I came from farming stock; my family have always 
    52        been farmers and butchers and brewers. 
    53
    54   Q.   And brewers?
    55        A.  Yes.
    56
    57   Q.   Right.  Do you know Dr. Gregory?
    58        A.  I know of Dr. Gregory and I have read his report.
    59
    60   Q.   I think you have agreed with what he has said in his

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