Day 117 - 27 Apr 95 - Page 30


     
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     2        (To the witness):  Thank you, Mr. Nicholson.  You will be
     3        asked to come back at 10.30 on Monday.  Unless Ms. Steel or
     4        Mr. Morris make any objection, I am content that you should
     5        talk to Mrs. Brinley-Codd, Mr. Hill, Mr. Rampton or
     6        Mr. Atkinson about anything to do with the conduct of the
     7        case generally or anything to do, I do not suppose it will
     8        arise, with the publications aspect in this case, but not
     9        in relation to the evidence you have given or any question
    10        you think you might be asked by Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris
    11        about the various employment matters.
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    13   THE WITNESS:  Yes, I fully understand that.
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    15                        (The witness withdrew)
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    17   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, as far as I am concerned, there are three
    18        things which I should like to mention, two of them your
    19        Lordship is already aware of.  Can I deal with one that
    20        your Lordship mentioned when we were last here ---
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    24   MR. RAMPTON:  -- last term which is the question of Miss Hovi
    25        and Jarretts?  I said that I would try to tell your
    26        Lordship what my intentions were today or by the end of
    27        this week; since we are not here tomorrow, I will do it
    28        now.  I would wish Ms. Hovi to be recalled for further
    29        cross-examination whenever it is convenient to her and to
    30        your Lordship.
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    32        I would also invite your Lordship to give me leave to call
    33        evidence in rebuttal of the allegations that she made
    34        without notice when she gave evidence-in-chief.  I will
    35        serve, of course, in due course as soon as I can a witness
    36        statement setting out the evidence which I would wish to
    37        give in rebuttal.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It seems to me, obviously, it is important
    40        that Ms. Hovi be recalled as soon as possible, so that the
    41        matter is out of her way, quite apart from anything else,
    42        but that the first thing to do is to have the statement or
    43        statements of any witness or witnesses whom you would seek
    44        my leave to call in rebuttal.  If there is any issue as to
    45        whether you should have leave, then obviously one wants to
    46        know what topics it is proposed that any witness would
    47        cover.  So, what is the timing in relation to service?
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    49   MR. RAMPTON:  That is not entirely in my hands.  We have said
    50        that it is urgent.  We will do it just as soon as we 
    51        possibly can.  One of the things I will reveal now which is 
    52        taking a little bit of time that I want to have done and 
    53        can be done is being done, is that the plan we have of the
    54        Jarrett layout is, apparently, in some important respects
    55        defective.  We are having a new one done by the people who
    56        did the original one to scale which we will be
    57        comprehensive.  That has taking a little bit of time since
    58        it is a professional drawing, but it is being done
    59        specifically in order to deal with some of the assertions
    60        made by Ms. Hovi of which we have not had notice.  That is

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