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     1        animals consume a concern for -----
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is a matter of comment, is it not?  He
     4        has given what appears to be a candid answer.
     5
     6   MS. STEEL:   While we are discussing cattle feed, is it right
     7        that when the broiler sheds are cleaned out the environment/index.html">litter from
     8        the floor of the broiler sheds can get mixed into food to
     9        be fed to cattle?  You are not aware of that?
    10        A.  No.
    11
    12   Q.   What about slaughterhouse waste that is sometimes fed to
    13        cattle as well, is it not?
    14        A.  No, not unless you are talking about protein meal.  Not
    15        waste, no.  I mean, if we are going to talk about that you
    16        have to be very accurate in your definition of "waste".
    17
    18   Q.   So what is it that goes into the cattle feed then?
    19        A.  At this moment in time nothing because it is banned.
    20
    21   Q.   That is because of BSE, is it?
    22        A.  That was the reason for it.
    23
    24   Q.   So when was that brought in?
    25        A.  Two years ago.
    26
    27   Q.   So prior to that time there were no restrictions on the use
    28        of whatever by-products from slaughterhouses or waste
    29        faeces and what have you from farms being used in food?
    30        A.  No, no, not faeces.  If you are going to make protein
    31        meal you have got to start with protein.
    32
    33   Q.   Well, Mr. Gregory, McDonald's expert on animal welfare, did
    34        actually say that the environment/index.html">litter from broiler house floors when
    35        they were cleaned out was sometimes used for cattle feed?
    36        A.  I have never come across that in my life.  I have never
    37        heard of it before.
    38
    39   Q.   So McDonald's does not have any specifications to prevent
    40        that?
    41        A.  No, McDonald's does not have any specifications to
    42        prevent that.
    43
    44   Q.   Prior to the restrictions brought in with the thing about
    45        BSE, did McDonald's have any policy to prevent the use of
    46        slaughterhouse waste being used in the cattle feed?
    47        A.  I wish you would not use the word "waste" because
    48        I think I know what you are driving at and I do not agree
    49        with that.
    50 
    51   Q.   I cannot remember. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you be more specific?
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  What part were you saying was produced from ----
    56        A.  If you were making a protein meal you would make it
    57        with the bungs, the guts, the rumen, the tripe, the horns,
    58        the hooves, that makes protein meal.
    59
    60   Q.   So is any of that used in the cattle feed?

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