Day 143 - 27 Jun 95 - Page 48
1 Q. So you got that information from where?
2 A. From my owner/operators and the attorney that
3 represented the owner/operators.
4
5 Q. Anyway, you have a relationship with this union, have you
6 not, now?
7 A. Yes, we do.
8
9 Q. You have an agreement with them?
10 A. Yes, we do.
11
12 Q. So you must be satisfied with the way they conduct their
13 business in terms of making an agreement with you?
14 A. It took a long time in negotiations to get to where we
15 wound up.
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17 Q. Let us have a look at that. If we go to page 7, if you
18 read what the union claims are the sticking points in the
19 breakdown discussions on page 8, this would have been
20 in -----
21 A. Page 8?
22
23 Q. Yes, this would be after discussions with the union, union
24 and McDonald's discussions in 1983?
25 A. Yes.
26
27 Q. On page 8, they have what they claim are the sticking
28 points?
29 A. OK, so where do you want me to read from?
30
31 Q. Page 8, basically.
32 A. At the top in the middle of the sentence or the next
33 paragraph?
34
35 Q. I cannot quote the bits that I want to put to you so you
36 just read -----
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, what I suggest, all you need do is ask
39 Mr. Stein whether these were the differences between
40 McDonald's and the union, or some of them, and then just in
41 summary form put the first and so on.
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43 MR. MORRIS: Right.
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If he does not know the answer to the first,
46 then I suggest you ask him whether he knows anything about
47 the course of the negotiations and what the sticking points
48 were. If the answer to that is no, then you really have to
49 move on.
50
51 I appreciate, if I may so, that what you are seeking to do
52 in a number of these areas is to take advantage of the
53 course which the Court of Appeal said was a legitimate
54 course, to see whether there is evidence which may be
55 obtained from a witness called by McDonald's about
56 something. But, if the answer is no, I think you really
57 have to leave it there. You have had your go. That is my
58 first reaction.
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60 The second is this, that when you press there is always a
