Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 48


     
     1        A.  No.
     2
     3   MR. MORRIS:  You said wads of leaflets were in the hold-all,
     4        people picking them up, handing them out?
     5        A.  Yes.
     6
     7   Q.   But that, presumably, was all the various different types
     8        of leaflets, whatever they were, being kept?
     9        A.  The first time I saw anyone pick up leaflets was when
    10        I first went to the thing, there was a large group of bags,
    11        haversacks, I think there was a cardboard, someone came
    12        across and picked up some leaflets.
    13
    14   Q.   By that wall?
    15        A.  No, no, these were in the middle of the pavement.  It
    16        was a large collection of bags and things at one point, and
    17        I saw someone come there, open one of the hold-alls and
    18        take out some leaflets.
    19
    20   Q.   Right.
    21        A.  Yes.
    22
    23   Q.   What I am saying is that you did not see the nature of all
    24        the different types of leaflets that were in the hold-all?
    25        A.  No, I did not see in any of the hold-alls really.
    26
    27   Q.   Right.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL: You do not know, as I understand it, whether
    30        there were ----
    31        A.  No.
    32
    33   Q.  --  lots of different times of leaflets?
    34        A.  No.  I now know there were two, because the next day
    35        Mr. Carroll had been handed a different type of leaflet,
    36        simply the content was more or less the same, the cartoons
    37        were more or less the same, but it was a different type of
    38        leaflet.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  So, if somebody picked a wad of leaflets in
    41        the hold-all it could have included more than one type of
    42        leaflet?
    43        A.  Yes, it could have included anything.
    44
    45   Q.   Right.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  The only reason you know this is the leaflet
    48        complained of is from the front cover -- this one here,
    49        this is about the same distance?
    50        A.  Sure, yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Yes? 
    53        A.  Yes.  I have never seen any of the leaflets with that
    54        frontispiece other than that one.
    55
    56   Q.   Right.
    57        A.  If you know what I mean, the whole frontispiece with
    58        that document, that is the only leaflet ----
    59
    60   Q.   You did not follow any member of the public up the road and

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