Day 208 - 24 Jan 96 - Page 39
1 Manager, or one of the assistants.
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3 Q. So, you do not really know what caused it or anything?
4 A. Not personally.
5
6 Q. So, it might be fair to say that you do have no knowledge
7 or experience of problems with the chicken vats, apart from
8 what you have heard?
9 A. Yes.
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11 MS. STEEL: Do you still have bundle 1 with the rap sessions?
12 A. Yes.
13
14 Q. Can you turn to very first page of tab 10, page 189?
15 A. Yes
16
17 Q. Do you see under "Equipment", it says: "The toasters need
18 replacing, keeps breaking down and keeps falling off and
19 burning people." Do you remember that?
20 A. No.
21
22 Q. Can you think of any reason why it might be in there if was
23 not true?
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, I do not suppose he can.
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27 MS. STEEL: Right. (To the witness) Would you accept that
28 where you say you do not recall, it could well have been
29 happening?
30 A. It could well have been happening.
31
32 Q. You said this morning that Managers had no control over
33 when people came back from their breaks. That is not
34 correct, is it, because otherwise you could end up with, if
35 everybody comes back from their breaks earlier, there could
36 be too many people on the stations and they would be paying
37 everybody's wages when they do not want that many people on
38 the floor?
39 A. It happens.
40
41 Q. It happens?
42 A. Yes.
43
44 Q. So you are saying that the Managers do not have any control
45 at all?
46 A. Within reason. I mean, if somebody comes back at
47 40 minutes after they have gone on a break, they have not
48 had a 45 minute break, but the Manager is not going to know
49 exactly how long they have had.
50
51 Q. But if they come back after 15 minutes into their 45 minute
52 break, the Manager will notice, will he not?
53 A. Yes, the Manager would notice, yes. It is down to the
54 individual to decide.
55
56 Q. It is in the Crew Handbook that crew have to take their
57 breaks at the time specified by the Manager?
58 A. I could not -----
59
60 Q. So people do not have a choice?
