Day 197 - 07 Dec 95 - Page 40
1 A. I was either a Trainee Manager or Security at the
2 time. As I said earlier on, I cannot remember the exact
3 position. I know I was involved in it. I know what
4 actually happened. I was there at the time.
5 Unfortunately, I have got no records with me so I was
6 actually doing it from memory.
7
8 Q. I know. I am not criticising you for that. But, looking
9 at that, you are disputing the accuracy of that document
10 which was looked at?
11 A. I am not. I am not saying that is wrong. I am saying
12 when I actually wrote my statement I had nothing to refer
13 to. I was doing it from memory as far as dates were
14 concerned.
15
16 Q. I understand that. Do you remember that we sent to
17 Mr. Morris, and he passed on to you, a request for further
18 information about this incident, amongst others?
19 A. Yes.
20
21 Q. You should find that as the third document in the section
22 which contains your statement?
23 A. That is correct, yes.
24
25 Q. We asked you under the heading "Trade unions" on page 9,
26 yes?
27 A. Yes.
28
29 Q. "Please state how you know" -- this is what you put in
30 your first statement -- "that 'the Company took this'",
31 the McDonald's Freedom Fighters, "very seriously".
32 Mr. Morris has noted your response which you have signed
33 and verified as being accurate: "I was told we had to get
34 rid of those involved, but to do it on pretexts. It came
35 up at a weekly Managers meeting I attended". Do you see
36 those words?
37 A. Yes.
38
39 Q. Is that a true answer to our question?
40 A. Absolutely true.
41
42 Q. When you were a Security Co-ordinator or at most a Trainee
43 Manager?
44 A. Yes. During my time as a Security Co-ordinator, I
45 became increasingly involved with the managerial side of
46 the store, which is why I was asked to become a Trainee
47 Manager.
48
49 Q. Then, if you turn over the page, we asked a further
50 question on page 10 at the top, paragraph (3) in the
51 brackets: "Please state (A) who told you 'to sack some of
52 those involved under the pretext that they were (a)
53 disruptive influence and (b) when and where you were told
54 this and (c) what position you held at the time." Your
55 answer to (a) was: "Would have been Mark Davis and Frank
56 Stanton". You did not answer (b). In answer to (c), what
57 position you held at the time, you said: "Second,
58 possibly First Assistant", which indicates, does it not,
59 by reference to your career record, that it happened
60 either at the beginning of 1985 or in 1986?
