Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 59
1 Q. So did you not actually recycle any of it?
2 A. We were not able to. There was no infrastructure but
3 it did set us to encourage Lin Pac to establish their
4 plant.
5
6 Q. Four years later?
7 A. Yes.
8
9 Q. What I was getting at when I was asking you about paragraph
10 7, is the first reason you have given in paragraph 8 about
11 why paragraph 7 is untrue is because you say you first
12 started considering the use of recycled materials in 1988,
13 and I did ask you about whether you were aware of the
14 difference between a recycling programme and ----
15 A. You did.
16
17 Q. --- using recycled materials and you said you were aware of
18 the difference?
19 A. Yes.
20
21 Q. They are two separate things, are they not?
22 A. Yes, they are.
23
24 Q. So far as recycling anything that came out of your stores,
25 nothing happened until this plant was set up in Cheshire?
26 A. Well, I think what I have said here, if we read the
27 text of what I have actually said, that McDonald's took its
28 first step towards developing a waste minimisation and
29 recycling programme, the first step being the recycling we
30 asked our customers to do in the restaurants. I do not
31 actually say "we were recycling". I have said we have
32 taken our first step towards developing a recycling
33 programme, which is true and this happened in 1988.
34
35 Q. Well, the customers were not recycling, were they? They
36 were just sorting out things into different bins?
37 A. I think we are getting hung up on semantics. I have
38 said we took our first step, and I think we did take our
39 first step at that time.
40
41 Q. But you would recognise that you were not actually
42 recycling anything produced in your stores until 1992?
43 A. Yes.
44
45 Q. Right, OK.
46 A. Yes, I still stand by the statement, we took the first
47 step.
48
49 Q. OK. You stand by what you say there in paragraph 8 that
50 you first started considering the use of recycled materials
51 in 1988?
52 A. Yes.
53
54 Q. Lower down in paragraph 8 you mention about the task force,
55 the environmental task force developing and publishing
56 corporate environmental policy. When did that happen?
57 A. I am not sure. I was not directly involved with this
58 task force at all. Although it says "The makeup included
59 purchasing", that would not have been me specifically.
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