Day 306 - 26 Nov 96 - Page 10


     
     1        He says on page 82, line 44, about how "sometimes the
     2        longer version of the leaflet was out of stock"; this is
     3        from his notes.  Now, it can only go in and out of stock if
     4        new supplies are arriving.  There is no evidence at all
     5        and, in fact, every evidence to the contrary, that the
     6        leaflet was, that the fact sheet was reprinted.  Therefore,
     7        the evidence that we have that Veggies fact sheets were
     8        sent to the group from time to time from the evidence of
     9        Mr. Smith and Mr. Gravett, I think, indicates, in fact,
    10        that Veggies fact sheets, probably in small numbers, would
    11        arrive from time to time, which is not the leaflet
    12        complained of, although it looks identical to the untrained
    13        eye.
    14
    15        Then on page 83, lines 43 to 51, again there is more
    16        confusion.  Mr. Rampton was trying to get Mr. Bishop to say
    17        that the leaflets that were taken for distribution by
    18        persons attending meetings was the long fact sheet and
    19        Mr. Bishop answered, line 51:  "It would be the small
    20        leaflet."  At the top of page 86 he saw Jack Russell at a
    21        meeting and he reported on him being at that meeting and
    22        was told by the firm that he was actually an agent.  So, it
    23        is pretty clear that Mr. Russell must have attended another
    24        meeting, which only goes to show the unreliability of his
    25        memory.
    26
    27        Again, Mr. Bishop is saying at page 88, line 25, that in
    28        making his statement he used the reports that were
    29        submitted from the notes that he made and that that is what
    30        he based his memory on.  So, again, that is unreliable.  He
    31        said at line 41, page 88: "The statements were made by the
    32        solicitors.  I was asked if I agreed with them, which
    33        I obviously did, and I signed them."  (Pause).
    34
    35        Regarding him staffing the stall at the George Roby on
    36        page 89, he was asked, line 16: "The fact sheet which you
    37        have had a look at, that was on the stall at that event?
    38        Answer:  To the best of my knowledge, it was."  So, if that
    39        is the case, then the Plaintiffs are responsible for
    40        distribution through their agent of the words complained
    41        of.  As we have heard, Ms. Steel and myself had absolutely
    42        nothing whatsoever to do with that event.
    43
    44        On day 260, page 17, line 34, he talked about how people
    45        were very friendly at the London Greenpeace meetings, and
    46        then he said: "They were very informal meetings."  In fact,
    47        he had suggested at his very first meeting a topic for a
    48        public meeting which was accepted by that meeting, or
    49        accepted by the people present.  I said, on page 18: "But
    50        that kind of situation, where somebody can make a 
    51        contribution even if they are only at the first meeting, 
    52        and it would be listened to, that was the general feature, 
    53        was it, of meetings throughout the time you attended?
    54        Answer:  Yes, I would say so."  That only emphasises the
    55        egalitarian nature of the meetings.
    56
    57        Now, going on to the 2nd August, which is a meeting
    58        I attended, he said that his impression of the whole group,
    59        looking back three years later about the range of meetings
    60        that he attended, that myself, Helen and Mr. Gravett were

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