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     1        million tonnes, with all but about 40 million tonnes, is
              that right?
     2        A.   Yes.
 
     3   Q.   Now, if (as we hope to do during the course of this case)
              we are able to calculate the amount of beef in percentage
     4        terms of the world's total consumption of beef that
              McDonald's uses annually, are we going to be able to
     5        arrive at a rough estimate of their responsibility for
              contribution to methane in the atmosphere?
     6        A.   Yes, we are.
 
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you?
              A.   Yes, I am.
     8
         Q.   You have to include dairy cattle, have you not?
     9        A.   Yes.
 
    10   Q.   And some areas where there are an awful lot of dairy
              cattle they would never dream of eating the animal,
    11        however it died.
              A.   That is certainly true, my Lord.
    12
         Q.   That does not affect the figures.
    13        A.   Early this morning it was suggested that what one
              could do was come up with a worst case estimate for other
    14        things, and the figure I came up with is effectively a
              worst case estimate of what will actually happen.
    15
         MR. RAMPTON:  Would you like to put it in?
    16        A.   My worst case estimate for 1990 is about 0.4 million
              tonnes, or 0.39 million tonnes.
    17
         Q.   Of what, by whom?
    18        A.   That is the estimate of total methane emissions
              associated with beef cattle which are used for production
    19        of products by McDonald's which is about 0.6 per cent of
              the world total.
    20
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The world's total of what?  Heads of cattle?
    21        A.   Yes.
 
    22   Q.   That assumes that every head of cattle is turned into beef
              somewhere along the line.
    23        A.   No, it actually assumes that all cattle, whether they
              are used for beef cattle or for milk production, they emit
    24        methane.
 
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I was not going to ask Professor Duxbury
              to do the calculation.  I merely asked the question: If we 
    26        are able to show what is McDonald's proportion of the 
              world's beef consumption annually, are we then going to be 
    27        able to deduce what their contribution is to the total
              methane load annually?  That was my question.  There will
    28        be evidence later on, from Mr. Gonzales, to demonstrate
              what McDonald's percentage of annual world beef
    29        consumption is.
 
    30   MISS STEEL:  The figures which have been given- could we be
              given the starting figures so that we could try and work

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