Day 253 - 21 May 96 - Page 28


     
     1        observed that the United Kingdom has a coronary heart
     2        disease mortality exceeding the French rate by about four
     3        times, yes?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Not currently.
     7
     8   MR. RAMPTON:  They decline somewhat towards the end of the
     9        1980s.  We also notice, do you see, that the United
    10        Kingdom's rate exceeds that of West Germany.  Do you see
    11        that?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   Q.   An also that of The Netherlands?
    15        A.  Yes.
    16
    17   Q.   Now, in the middle of the chart, we see figure C1 which
    18        heads itself "The Percentage of Food Energy from Fat in
    19        various countries", no specificity so far as the fat is
    20        concerned.  That is right; is it not?
    21        A.  Yes.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry, which one are we looking at now?
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON: Figure C1 in the middle?
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At the top.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  We see that The Netherlands, which has a lower
    32        heart disease mortality rate than we do, has it looks like
    33        over 50 per cent of its food energy derived from fat.  Do
    34        you see that?
    35        A.  Yes, this is so.
    36
    37   Q.   We see that Germany, which is 6 down, I think it is, is
    38        nearer 50 per cent; yes?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    41   Q.   France is between 14 and 50 per cent, whereas we are just
    42        about on 40; do you see that?
    43        A.  Yes.
    44
    45   Q.   The first question is this:  Are those differences
    46        significant in relation to the fat content of the diet or
    47        the energy derived from fat content of the diet?
    48        A.  These are very substantial differences in fat intake,
    49        yes.
    50 
    51   Q.   Then if you look at the right-hand set of column charts -- 
    52        I do not know what they are rightly called, "blocks" or 
    53        "columns" -- the United Kingdom is conveniently delineated
    54        as a white block; do you see that?
    55        A.  Yes.
    56
    57   Q.   And the others are all in red.  Can we look at what one
    58        might call the "wicked substances".  Most of those appear
    59        in the right-hand side, figure 2.43, yes?
    60        A.  Yes.

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