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     1        is about as strong as physicians tend to get in these
     2        kinds of data.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Shall we break off there and we can go on
     5        after lunch?
     6
     7                          (Short adjournment)
     8
     9                                                     2.00 pm.
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  I believe, Dr. Barnard, that we are moving on to
    12        some of the material that you gave to us.  It is not in
    13        your references file, in the supplementary lists.  Do you
    14        want to take us through those ones?  Do you want to
    15        identify them and I will say where it is on our list?  I
    16        do not think you have our list.
    17        A.  Yes.  I believe you have them now.
    18
    19   Q.   You have not got them with you?
    20        A.  No.
    21
    22   Q.   OK.
    23        A.  There was a booklet from the National Cancer
    24        Institute.
    25
    26   Q.   I will go through them one by one.  If we look at the
    27        Miscellaneous Supplementary List on Cancer, the first one
    28        is the Executive Summary of the World Health Organisation
    29        which I will come to later; the next one is the American
    30        Heart Association press release on Healthy Eating which
    31        was Geoffrey Cannon's document.  Then we have the Dr.
    32        Wheelock.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have that as Dr. Barnard No. 2.  Is
    35        that ----
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  This Miscellaneous List is not strictly
    38        Dr. Barnard's list; it is actually material that Geoffrey
    39        Cannon and Dr. Barnard both gave.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I appreciate that.  I have 1 and 2 down as
    42        Dr. Barnard, 3 as Mr. Cannon, 4 to 10 as Dr. Barnard and
    43        11 as Mr. Cannon.  It does not really matter who provided
    44        them.  You refer Dr. Barnard to whichever ones you want
    45        him to comment on.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  "The risk of death from cancer and ischaemic heart
    48        disease in meat and non meat eaters", Thoroughgood, is
    49        that one of yours?
    50        A.  No, that may be one of mine; that was not one of the 
    51        ones  ----- 
    52 
    53   Q.   You wanted to refer to?
    54        A.  Right.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have a copy of the list there?
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I have.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why not hand that up to Dr. Barnard and he

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