Day 272 - 02 Jul 96 - Page 56


     
     1   Q.   Yes.  So you were expecting the press to read the leaflet
     2        and you were hoping that the public would see its contents
     3        in the columns of the newspapers and on television in due
     4        course, were you not?
     5        A.  I do not think that is really how the press works.  We
     6        had almost nil coverage from the press for the
     7        anti-McDonald's coverage in all those years in terms of the
     8        national press and media.  They were not interested in it.
     9
    10   Q.   But the point is you had sufficient copies to send out to
    11        the national and no doubt local media available in August,
    12        1989, did you not?
    13        A.   There would have been enough copies available then.
    14        It does not mean that there were many.  It was not a large
    15        mail out.  It was not like the national Day of Action mail
    16        out to hundreds of groups.  It would have been sent out to
    17        national newspapers, radio stations, TV companies.
    18
    19   Q.   Can you look at the next paragraph:
    20
    21        "On October 16th groups throughout the world will be
    22        protesting outside their local branch of McDonald's.  For
    23        details of the campaign and how to obtain leaflets please
    24        send a stamped addressed envelope to Greenpeace London, 5
    25        Caledonian Road."
    26
    27        What leaflets were those, Mr. Gravett?
    28        A.   Those would have been the leaflets that we told people
    29        were available from other organisations, not our own.  We
    30        did not encourage groups to hand out our leaflets.  We
    31        wanted groups to hand out their own leaflets.  We wanted
    32        them to be autonomous. That was part of the London
    33        Greenpeace ethic.
    34
    35   Q.   It is obviously a lot cheaper and easier for you if other
    36        groups simply reprint your anti-McDonald's fact sheet and
    37        put their own name on it, is it not?  That is what you were
    38        really hoping for, was it not, because it would save you a
    39        lot of time and money?
    40        A.   We hoped they would make up their own leaflet with
    41        their own group details on, their own information about
    42        their own groups.  We wanted a network of thriving local
    43        groups of all types who would have an anti-McDonald's
    44        campaign as one of many campaigns.
    45
    46   Q.   The first version of the Veggies leaflets, before they were
    47        spotted by McDonald's, the first version of the Veggies
    48        leaflet must have been almost identical to yours, was it
    49        not, before they changed the bit about the rainforest?
    50        A.  I imagine so, yes.  I mean, it has been a long time
    51        since I have seen it.
    52
    53   Q.   I cannot show it to you because I do not have it.  Do you
    54        know when it first appeared?  Do you remember?  The Veggies
    55        version?
    56        A.   I really do not remember.  I imagine sometime in the
    57        mid-1980's.
    58
    59   Q.   Then can we, if you have still got this page open, can you
    60        look at the next bit:

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