Day 117 - 27 Apr 95 - Page 16
1 does not differentiate between Inner and Outer London. Did
2 the Wages Council ever differentiate between Inner and
3 Outer London?
4 A. No, I do not think so -- certainly not to my memory,
5 no.
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7 Q. This is to the same year as your memo. In the table under
8 "Grade or Description of worker", we see different groups
9 of people. I would like you just to look at those groups
10 with particular reference to groups 3, 4 and 5 and then
11 I will ask you a question. I do not want to read them all
12 out; it is tedious. There are different types of work and
13 different ages dealt with there, you see?
14 A. Yes.
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16 Q. If you can look at that and then look at the McDonald's
17 document, your memo of 23rd June 1986?
18 A. Yes.
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20 Q. What I would like you to help us with is where the
21 McDonald's people would fit into those different groups.
22 Group 3, this is Assistant cook, clerk (perhaps we can
23 forget about), floor supervisor - aged 18 or over; do you
24 see that?
25 A. Yes.
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27 Q. Whereas your table has Floor Managers, Lobby Host/ess,
28 Training Coordinator.
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30 MR. MORRIS: Sorry, where are we looking? I am lost.
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32 MR. RAMPTON: 639.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: 639 and 625. Mr. Rampton is pointing out
35 that the descriptions of the way the people attach to the
36 rates described are not the same, so he is asking
37 Mr. Nicholson what might be equivalence.
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39 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know the answer to this, Mr. Nicholson;
40 perhaps you do.
41 A. I used to. It is a long time since this kind of
42 document has been produced. I think this was the last year
43 ---
44
45 Q. It was.
46 A. -- that they went into this kind of detail.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But I think one way of putting it might be
49 crew 18 plus, for instance, on 625. Can you tell us which
50 category you would put them in on page 639? Would it be
51 group 3, group 4, group 5?
52 A. It was not 1 or 2, certainly.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: No.
55 A. I am trying to remember. I think we used to classify
56 them along with group 3.
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58 Q. Maybe it does not matter terribly, my Lord. When one looks
59 at the figures ---
60 A. We are paying over it.
