Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 64
1 matter entirely.
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3 MS. STEEL: To be honest, I have a document which is not in the
4 bundles but we have not put it in the bundles because we
5 have to do some filtering of what is relevant. I was not
6 aware that anybody was coming who had any experience about
7 Australia, but when Dr. Gomez Gonzalez mentioned this the
8 other day, I thought I may as well as put to him what is
9 here but I deliberately -----
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What you are entitled to ----
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13 MR. RAMPTON: That is quite permissible, my Lord. I said I had
14 no objection.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, what you are entitled to do, provided you
17 have a source of information which you think is reasonably
18 reliable, you are entitled just to ask questions without
19 putting a document or any particular challenge.
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21 MR. RAMPTON: I thought maybe I had missed something about
22 Australia that was coming in the evidence, but if there is
23 not, then I do not mind.
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25 MS. STEEL (To the witness): Then after the calves are taken
26 from their mothers at one day old, is it right that they
27 are enclosed in individual crates that measure about
28 three-quarters of a metre by 1.5 metres?
29 A. I have never seen that.
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31 Q. You have not seen that?
32 A. No.
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34 Q. Do you know what happens to them after they are taken from
35 their mothers?
36 A. They could be -- it depends on the country, it depends
37 on the feed lot, what they do with them. I do not know,
38 they could send them to slaughterhouse, they could send
39 them to a farm and raise it on a farm, but I have never
40 seen anybody putting them in such a small confinement.
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42 Q. Is that the standard practice for feed lots in America as
43 well -- the calves will be taken away at one day old?
44 A. Yes.
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46 Q. That is right?
47 A. It would, again it would depend on the feed lots. It
48 is up to them to do whatever they want. They will do just
49 about everything, the options that I mentioned before, but
50 you do not want -- never mind.
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52 Q. What are the stocking densities in America for pigs, the
53 minimum stocking, maximum stocking densities?
54 A. As far as I can remember, there is no set amount of a
55 stocking density.
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57 Q. There is no law about that?
58 A. As far as I can remember, no. Most suppliers will fall
59 around half a metre, square metre per hog, but it depends
60 on supplier. It can be exceeded, it can be -- I do not
