Day 020 - 28 Jul 94 - Page 68
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Q. Is that under the minimum recommended current?
2 A. Let us see what the figure is, if somebody can help
us.
3
Q. It is the same page. It is on page 281, it says 1.3 amp,
4 so.
5 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is .447, or .45?
A. Could you repeat the question, Ms. Steel?
6
MS. STEEL: The minimum recommended current comes under the
7 code of practice No. 64?
A. I am with you.
8
Q. There is a chart. You have the chart?
9 A. That is correct.
10 Q. At the bottom it says 1.3 amp?
A. Yes, that is correct.
11
Q. So this was under the minimum?
12 A. It was under the minimum as stated there. There are,
in fact, two recommendations being put out; one is 1.3
13 amps, such as here; another one is .4 amps when the
electrodes span the head of the animal. This 1.3 amps
14 would be relevant to where the neck is spanned.
15 Q. The neck being spanned is what was going on here, was it
not?
16 A. That is what it says, yes.
17 Q. So that the relevant figure would be 1.3?
A. In order to achieve an instantaneous stun, yes. Can
18 we expand on this because you pointed out the first
sentence of that sub-paragraph which is on page 9.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Paragraph 3, is it?
20 A. Could you repeat that?
21 Q. Is it paragraph 3 you are looking at?
A. I am looking at page.
22
Q. Comment 3. Where are you looking?
23 A. I am on part one, page 9, of my submission "At the
Start of Stunning".
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
25 A. The first sentence reads: "At the start of stunning
the tongs were usually placed across the neck of the pig.
26 Once the pig had fallen to the ground the tongs were
repositioned with one electrode over an eye, and the other
27 electrode behind the opposite ear." In that placement the
electrodes span the brain, but in the initial placement
28 across the neck they would not span the brain.
29 MS. STEEL: So they would get pain from the first stun?
A. What would happen, we suspect -- this is speculation
30 because it was not established during the inspection
procedure -- what could happen, is that a proportion of
