Day 192 - 27 Nov 95 - Page 28
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2 Q. He had found out that there were people trying to organise
3 a union; is that correct?
4 A. Yes.
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6 Q. I am trying to get on top of this. As soon as he found
7 out, he invited day staff into his office one by one to
8 "chat", you said?
9 A. That was also the day that a Head office lady from
10 McDonald's personnel was sent down. I think her name was
11 Marion Drummond.
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13 Q. Was that the same day?
14 A. I believe so, yes.
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16 Q. Did either of them ask to speak to you?
17 A. No.
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19 Q. What was the atmosphere like while this was going on? You
20 said this had never happened at McDonald's before?
21 A. Yes. From my understanding, people were pretty
22 nervous, because they had never heard of this
23 Marion Drummond woman from Head Office personnel, coming
24 down to speak to them. So they knew something was
25 obviously up, because of the union drive; and what I gather
26 from these women that told me about this is that, when they
27 were in the office with Cam or being interviewed by
28 Marion Drummond, she never said the word "union", or he
29 never said the word "union", because it is illegal for them
30 to do so, but they hinted about management and crew
31 relations.
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33 Q. Do you know what day this was, which day of the week? Is
34 this around the time or after the application, was it?
35 A. Let me think for a second. I have a feeling that it
36 was probably after, but I do not want to say that for sure.
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38 Q. So it was around the time of the application?
39 A. It was within a few, like, two or three days, not
40 counting the weekends; like, either the Monday or Tuesday
41 after, or the Thursday or Friday before. But I cannot say
42 for sure. I do not remember.
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44 Q. Was it before the Tuesday, October 5th crew meeting held by
45 Cam?
46 A. Yes, yes, it was.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You cannot remember whether it was just
49 before or just after the application?
50 A. Just after; but I know it was not that weekend.
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52 MR. MORRIS: It was not on the Saturday or Sunday?
53 A. No, it was not.
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55 Q. Now, you have said about an anti-union petition
56 circulating?
57 A. Yes.
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59 Q. Was management involved or not involved with this petition;
60 or which management were involved, if they were?
