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1 would feel there was a bit of a smell about it. So all we
2 have established is that which is pretty obvious, that if
3 McDonald's asked for payroll records, they are given them.
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5 MR. MORRIS: Did you take any disciplinary action, or take it up
6 with the stores that refused to give you payrolls?
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Have any stores refused to give you payrolls?
9 A. They did not refuse, my Lord. It just never came in in
10 time, the time when the TPF & C had sat; and TPF & C said
11 that, statistically, it did not matter, and they just went
12 ahead.
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14 MS. STEEL: That is what TPF said?
15 A. That is correct -- and the professor.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I just want to find my note where the whole
18 business of the PUP matter came in to Mr. Stein's
19 evidence-in-chief.
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21 MS. STEEL: Day 138, page 22 onwards.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. But where did that come amongst other
24 matters; that is all I am asking.
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26 MS. STEEL: I see. I think it is just before Madrid.
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28 MR. RAMPTON: It would have been the second specific matter that
29 I dealt with. I dealt with the general wage rate in
30 Philadelphia, I think, first. I took them in the order in
31 which they are in his written statement, as far as I can
32 recall.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: On day 138, you carried on with the words of
35 art (as Mr. Stein called them) in tab 6. You went on to
36 the policy about trade unions. You dealt with John Cook's
37 firing squad. You then dealt with -- I have it now, yes.
38 Thank you very much.
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40 MS. STEEL: (To the witness) Just to clarify one thing, the
41 data for five of the stores, you did not get that data
42 either for the internal McDonald's verbal report that you
43 did?
44 A. That is correct.
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46 Q. You did not think it was appropriate to chase them up to
47 ensure that they got it to TPF & C in time?
48 A. With regard to TPF & C and the professor, they felt
49 they had sufficient data; statistically, it would not make
50 any difference; and, therefore, we did not, as you say,
51 chase it up.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I would like you to put -- perhaps you
54 can do it at two o'clock -- because I was trying to
55 remember how the whole PUP business came into the case at
56 all, which is why I asked the question I did just now. It
57 came in initially route of item 99 in your particulars.
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59 "In around 1989 or 1990 in Philadelphia, in response to a
60 community campaign over wage rates at McDonald's, the First
