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2 If you do not look at the entire, whole picture you will
3 not be successful. So, by those terms I am highly
4 qualified. As I expressed before, I do not know anybody
5 who has spent so much time in the whole chain from the time
6 the animal is born to the time the animal is grown, fed,
7 processed and sold as a product. I do not know of anybody
8 to answer directly your questions, yes. How much am
9 I qualified? More than anybody I ever seen, and I hope
10 that answers your question.
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12 Q. Have you written any specific papers specifically on animal
13 welfare?
14 A. Specific what?
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16 Q. Specifically on animal welfare?
17 A. As I tell you before, every single aspect is related to
18 animal welfare, from nutrition to slaughter to microbiology
19 to hygiene. I have published articles on those.
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21 Q. Would you say you are better qualified, more experienced
22 than Dr. Gregory?
23 A. Dr. Gregory is well qualified in a very specific area
24 of how the animals are treated from the humane side. I am
25 better qualified than Dr. Gregory when we look at the
26 entire welfare of animal; when it comes to nutrition and
27 all factors that I have already mentioned before, I have
28 that, that opinion or I am of that opinion.
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30 Q. Going back to Australia, is it right that the calves born
31 at the feed lot only remain with the mothers for one day?
32 A. A calf born on a feed lot?
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34 Q. Yes.
35 A. That is correct.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I am not making an objection so Ms. Steel
38 need not get excited. We have heard a lot about
39 Australia. I cannot find anything about Australia in the
40 Defendants' witnesses' statements. That does not mean to
41 say Ms. Steel is not entitled to ask questions about
42 Australia -- she certainly is -- but I was just wondering
43 whether there is something I had missed in the Defendants'
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I had assumed not, although that may not be a
47 right assumption, because you have asked questions,
48 Ms. Steel, rather than specifically putting this, that or
49 the other happened wrongly. I mean, you asked questions
50 about them having to put their heads through the rails but
51 you did not mention specific tragedies or anything like
52 that which had been observed.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: I say that for this reason, that if there is
55 something that I have missed or some documents that are
56 going to be produced by one of the Defendants' experts, and
57 this point in cross-examination may or may not be taken,
58 then it is not being done the right way. If, on the other
59 hand, all Ms. Steel is doing (which she is quite entitled
60 to do) is making enquiry about Australia, that is another
