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     1        thousands of samples and they publish it six-monthly, the
     2        result of all their tests.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   Have you ever had any contact at all with the farms
     5        supplying meat for McDonald's?
     6        A.  Yes, I have been on a couple of farms which were
     7        connected with abattoirs, yes.
     8
     9   Q.   That is for cows, is it?
    10        A.  No, it was steers and heifers.
    11
    12   Q.   OK.  Was that just as a matter of interest or what?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   It was?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Could you just pause there a moment?  The
    19        picture I have, rightly or wrongly, is that your
    20        investigation or your specification and investigation
    21        reaches out as far as the abattoir?
    22        A.  Yes, sir.
    23
    24   Q.   But not beyond that?
    25        A.  No, sir.
    26
    27   Q.   Going back down the line?
    28        A.  It is not practical sir.
    29
    30   MS. STEEL:   So have you ever made any input in terms of
    31        suggesting farming methods or anything like that?
    32        A.  Have I?
    33
    34   Q.   Yes.
    35        A.  No.
    36
    37   Q.   Has McKey's?
    38        A.  No.
    39
    40   Q.   Has McDonald's ever asked you to do that?
    41        A.  No.
    42
    43   Q.   Is that something you have asked the abattoirs to do?
    44        A.  No.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sit down for a moment, if you want to collect
    47        your thoughts.
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:  Thank you.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You remember I said sit down whenever you 
    52        want, Mr. Walker. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Walker, you said in your statement that meat is
    55        never any longer than 24 hours maximum from arrival to the
    56        freezer; is that correct?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   So when the meat arrives it actually takes you, say,
    60        something like 20 minutes, something like that, to make a

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