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     1        that is the Amazon frontier.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  But he goes on to say that he does not
     4        accept that it was ever rain forest down to the red line,
     5        does he not?
     6
     7   MR. MORRIS:  He says, on page 66 at the bottom, he does not know
     8        where the deforestation has taken place, most of the
     9        deforestation that has occurred in the last 50 years.  Then
    10        he says, over the page, that he has not checked.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then he says that he does know that it did
    13        not go down as far as the red line, does he not?
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  Then I asked him, in the middle of the second
    16        page:
    17
    18        "You do not know what part of, say, for example, the dense
    19        forest may have been, in fact, originally all rain forest?"
    20
    21        He says:  "No, originally, I do not know."
    22
    23        Then you asked him whether the rain forest extended down to
    24        the Amazon frontier line.
    25
    26        He says:  "OK, that one, that one I know."
    27
    28        "How do you know that?"
    29
    30        "Because I had discussions with that."
    31
    32        So that is not based upon his knowledge.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But what are you relying on there as some
    35        positive evidence in your favour?
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  He accepts that that is the Amazon frontier, and
    38        beyond that -----
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are looking for rain forest, are you not?
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I understand that.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you had a good point on this, I would have
    45        thought it would not be that difficult to find someone who
    46        could say ------
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  I have not -- yes.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are going to come to that? 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I am going to come to that.  I am not 
    53        necessarily doing this in the best order.  I will come back
    54        to Dr. Gomez Gonzales in a minute.  We then come on to --
    55        I have here a copy of Collins' Atlas of the World, if I can
    56        hand up a copy of the section?  This is the Collins' Atlas
    57        of the World which was first published in 1983, reprinted
    58        four times up to the second edition in 1988, then reprinted
    59        in third edition, 1991, and fourth edition, 1993.
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