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     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I have read two statements of yours,
     2        Dr. Lobstein; the first is dated 19th July 1993, which is
     3        at 2A in the appropriate bundle, and then a response to
     4        the evidence, or part of the evidence, and statement of
     5        Professor Wheelock, which is dated 4th February 1994.
     6
     7   THE WITNESS:  Yes.
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You adhere to what you said in those
    10        statements, do you?
    11        A.  Yes, I do.
    12
    13   Q.   I should take them as part of your evidence?
    14        A.  If you would.
    15
    16   MR. MORRIS:  Can you speak up, Dr. Lobstein?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   It is being recorded for the record.
    20
    21        If we move on.  What is the kind of diet which responsible
    22        organisations, medical bodies or governmental bodies,
    23        advisory bodies, international bodies are recommending as
    24        a healthy diet?
    25        A.  In summary, they are recommending a move away from a
    26        typical diet, particularly in this country, from the
    27        proportion of fats in the diet, particularly, to a lower
    28        fat diet, to a diet with a greater consumption of starchy
    29        carbohydrates, to a diet with less consumption of sugary
    30        carbohydrates, to a diet with less salt in it, and to a
    31        diet with a greater quantity of fruits and vegetables,
    32        nuts and seeds.  That is a summary of the World Health
    33        Organisation's statement.
    34
    35        I believe the government's COMA Committee, Dietary
    36        Reference Values, came up with similar recommendations;
    37        the precise figures I could reel off, but I expect you
    38        have those already.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  We have looked at those in some
    41        detail.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Would you support those recommendations?
    44        A.  I would, on the basis of the evidence that they
    45        themselves produce in their reports.  It would appear they
    46        are linked to the general public health, which I support.
    47
    48   Q.   We will come to some specific surveys a bit later.
    49        Generally, are there concerns about the average diet as
    50        eaten in this country by large numbers of the population? 
    51        A.  Yes, indeed.  I believe the purpose of producing those 
    52        reports was precisely because of those concerns, and, 
    53        indeed, evidence from other government documents would
    54        indicate those concerns would be correct, that heart
    55        disease rates and obesity rates and so on are serious and
    56        are, in the case of obesity, increasing.
    57
    58   Q.   Presumably, sugar related problems as well?
    59        A.  Yes, in pockets they are certainly increasing.  Dental
    60        caries, for example, is increasing rapidly in certain

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