Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 52
1 of paper.
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3 Q. So I can, say can I, that if one is dealing in tonnage
4 rather than square metres of carton board on the one hand
5 or paper on the other, if one is working in tonnage, the
6 figures of tonnage pulp required are going to be pretty
7 similar, are they?
8 A. Fairly similar, excluding the recycling element we
9 talked about.
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11 MR. MORRIS: In other words, if 1,000 tonnes of office paper,
12 you know, standard paper like this, was needed, would it be
13 near the same figures of 1,590 tonnes of pulpwood plus 180
14 tonnes of sawmill residue, would it be roughly the same to
15 produce this kind of quality paper as opposed to that kind
16 of quality?
17 A. Mr. Morris, I have to say that that would be a question
18 better addressed to Mr. Bateman simply because he is a
19 papermaker and I am not. My only view would be on this
20 matter is that you have to take into account that if a
21 proportion of hardwood pulp is involved, then you have got
22 a denser basic material and, therefore, the input tonnage
23 would produce less in terms of output product.
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25 Q. Again, in point 1 on page 4 you said for "Every saleable
26 1,000 tonnes of carton board". I know you are not the
27 paper production person, but presumably material is lost in
28 the process. Is that correct?
29 A. Yes.
30
31 Q. In the production process. Have you included that in your
32 figures?
33 A. Yes, I have given you an input figure.
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35 Q. I see, the input figure produced 1,000 tonnes of carton
36 board. We could probably be here all day trying to work it
37 out exactly. You were going to say something a bit earlier
38 on when you moved on to something else about sawmill
39 residues. I do not know what you were going to say. Were
40 you going to say something to the effect of residues could
41 be characterised as "recycled"? Is that what you were
42 going to say?
43 A. This is something which I gather that in the world of
44 recycling waste material is taken into account, and
45 sometimes in calculating the percentage of recycled
46 material that waste material includes otherwise burned
47 material such as the residue from sawmills. This is
48 something I do not know because I gather this sometimes
49 varies as to what is included as recycled and what is not.
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51 Q. I think that is all I have to ask on the figures for the
52 moment anyway. If we go back to page 3 under Sweden and
53 Finland, in the middle of the page you talk about the
54 increase in softwood stocks. Has the area of hardwoods
55 decreased in those countries, in Sweden and Finland?
56 A. No. The area of hardwoods in recent years in Finland,
57 on which I do have some information, has actually
58 increased, although there was a time in the postwar period
59 when they cut extremely heavily into their Finnish birch
60 stocks as part of their reparation programmes with Russia,
