Day 058 - 30 Nov 94 - Page 10


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  But we do not know if they have deducted the waste
     2        before they gave him the figures or whether they have
     3        included that?
     4        A.  I think, Mr. Morris, and I must read the figures as you
     5        must read the figures, that the total input figure is
     6        appropriate.
     7
     8   Q.   It does not say "input" there, does it, it says -----
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It says "pulpwood", you see, and that is not
    11        pulp.  That is, I think, what Mr. Mallinson is trying to
    12        say.  "Pulpwood", that is what you start off with and
    13        carton board is what you end up with.  So, if 1590 tonnes
    14        of pulpwood and 180 tonnes of sawmill chips are required to
    15        produce 1,000 tonnes of carton board, the former amounts of
    16        pulpwood and chips are what go in at the beginning of the
    17        process and the 1,000 tonnes of carton board is what comes
    18        out at the end.  So, it must have taken account of the
    19        wastage, if any, during the process because that is what
    20        those terms on the face of it mean.  Whether Mr. Thompson
    21        is right or not is another matter, but that is the
    22        information which Mr. Mallinson has been given.
    23        A.  That is right.
    24
    25   Q.   I would thought that is what it clearly means.
    26        A.  My Lord, if it is of any help, on page 4 of my original
    27        statement I quote Mr. Thompson directly in his statement
    28        that for every saleable 1,000 tonnes of carton board, the
    29        production process will use 1590 tonnes of pulpwood plus
    30        180 tonnes of sawmill residue.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, that is why I say those figures came
    33        from your original statement?
    34        A.  The two are consistent.  We have to rely, obviously, on
    35        the experience of those in that business as to the yield.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  It then says:  "If we are to sustain the 1,000
    38        tonnes of pulpwood production we would need 10.19 times
    39        production now 40 hectares".
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is because 156 goes into 1590, 10.19
    42        times?
    43        A.  Correct.
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  It is just that I do not understand the "if we are
    46        to sustain 1,000 tonnes of pulp wood production" because
    47        that has not been mentioned before; there is no figure of
    48        1,000 tonnes that has been mentioned.  Does that mean 1590
    49        tonnes, is that the position?
    50        A.  No, Mr. Morris.  I refer you back to the reply I gave 
    51        just a while ago that in my original statement I quoted 
    52        Mr. Thompson as using the words, "1,000 tonnes of carton 
    53        board for the production process will use that amount of
    54        wood".  I suspect that -----
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think he has put "pulpwood" in instead of
    57        "carton board", has he not?
    58        A.  My own feeling is that he should have used the word
    59        "carton board" in this one here, because that is what his
    60        whole figure, original calculation was based upon.

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