Day 254 - 22 May 96 - Page 69
1 finish his answer then you can ask your question again?
2 A. I had finished.
3
4 Q. You lost it?
5 A. All I was saying was that experiments have been done
6 which show that high calorie intake and low fat intake
7 animals get breast cancer more frequently than animals who
8 are given high fat diet and low calorie intake, these
9 experiments have been done.
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11 MR. MORRIS: The general trend, which is what we were talking
12 about earlier on, you said you have to look at trend, the
13 general trend is that epidemiological studies and animal
14 experiment studies have found the relationship between fat
15 and breast and colon cancer?
16 A. Certainly, epidemiological studies would suggest that
17 there is a relationship. We have agreed all this this
18 morning. But there is a degree of inconsistency in animal
19 experiments, it is not entirely in one direction.
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21 Q. I am trying to get through this, so we can finish today.
22 I do not know how much time Mr. Rampton wants to finish
23 -----
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do your best to complete your
26 cross-examination and then we will see how much time we
27 have got left.
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29 MR. MORRIS: (To the witness): You are very much a person that
30 works on -- I think the last time you were here, from my
31 vague recollection, you were very concerned about the
32 biological pathways to identify the causation, the causes
33 of cancers; yes?
34 A. Well, that is certainly one thing that I am interested
35 in, yes.
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37 Q. Right.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It would be absolutely lovely if you could
40 solve that.
41 A. I would be a millionaire!
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43 Q. You would be out of a job as well. This is not belittling
44 Mr. Morris' question, because he is quite right. If you
45 could -----
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47 MR. MORRIS: I mean, that is always the last -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That would be the quick route to cancer
50 prevention and cure?
51 A. Indeed, yes.
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53 MR. MORRIS: The point is that is the last, the one that is
54 least likely to be found, is it not, because even with
55 cancer and smoking they cannot identify the exact
56 biological pathways causing the cancers?
57 A. Yes.
58
59 Q. We had this last time.
60 A. Yes, that is right.
