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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  It is your belief then, Ms. Mead, that this is the
     3        most up-to-date information available at the time when this
     4        chart was prepared?
     5        A.  Yes, because there are -- I think they are updated, the
     6        survey is updated, for different sectors of industry at
     7        different times, and so it is a kind of rolling process.
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     9   Q.   This gives us some basis for comparison particularly,
    10        perhaps, for catering, I do not know.  The government
    11        information relates to shop assistants, shelf fillers,
    12        catering, chefs, cooks, barmen and cash handling clerks.
    13        Below that we see what the McDonald's figures are, yes?
    14        A.  Yes.
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    16   Q.   Then there is a summary -- presumably again coming from the
    17        government -- of basic rates for industry, hotel and
    18        catering and then retail, yes?
    19        A.  Yes.
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    21   Q.   Do you notice that in industry or in this sector of
    22        industry, generally, women seem to get paid less than men
    23        do you see that?
    24        A.  Yes.
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    26   Q.   Whereas at McDonald's they get the same?
    27        A.  Yes.
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    29   Q.   So far as the men are concerned, you will see that the men
    30        start off at McDonald's at significantly less -- perhaps
    31        you might agree -- than hotel and catering men do.  Do you
    32        see that?
    33        A.  Yes.
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    35   Q.   Then if you look at the next document G2 -- do you know who
    36        compiled this document, External Survey of Hourly Rates,
    37        Retail and Catering?
    38        A.  I believe it is members of the Human Resources
    39        Department.
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    41   Q.   By?
    42        A.  People -- members of the Human Resources Department.
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    44   Q.   I see, yes.  Your Department?
    45        A.  Yes.
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    47   Q.   Do you know the date of this?
    48        A.  No, not of this document precisely, no.
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    50   Q.   Do you think it is more recent than ----- 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I just say it is quite true that if one 
    53        looks at the figures on G1 the starting rates are less, but
    54        the rates in the New Earnings Survey, if my recollection is
    55        correct, are not starting rates, they are just overall, are
    56        they not?
    57        A.  Yes, that is right.
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    59   Q.   There are various New Earnings Surveys?
    60        A.  Yes, that is right.

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