Day 265 - 19 Jun 96 - Page 60


     
     1        after driving about two miles away.
     2
     3        Now, that is his evidence.  What it means is that what
     4        appears in the notes in front of me is his evidence of what
     5        he recalled happening at the meetings.  So that is where we
     6        start at and that is why it is important that you challenge
     7        it, if there is a challenge to it.
     8
     9   MR. MORRIS:  Well, I assume that is not -- if all the notes are
    10        evidence, then I am going to have to go through challenging
    11        every meeting, but some of the ones that Mr. Rampton has
    12        asked him specifically all about.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   No.  He said in-chief, all the notes -- the
    15        way -- you remember we had an interchange about this?  He
    16        said:  "I have no reason to believe that any of the notes,"
    17          which I took to be the notes which we had displayed, "are
    18        substantially inaccurate."
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  So we have got to challenge every single thing in
    21        that?
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, which is another way of averring they
    24        are the truth.  You do not have to challenge him on
    25        absolutely everything that is in there which you disagree
    26        with.  You have got to challenge him on things which you
    27        consider are relevant to the issues in the case.  That is,
    28        so far as you are concerned, any participation.  Anything
    29        which might go to participation by you in publication of
    30        the leaflet in question and therefore, anything which might
    31        go as being evidence of participation by you in publication
    32        of antiMcDonald's material generally, or antiMcDonald's
    33        events generally and then the same applies to Ms. Steel.
    34        Anything which might reflect on your motive, participation
    35        in any such publication and anything which might, because
    36        that may go to malice, and anything which might reflect on
    37        the issue of alleged consent to publication.
    38
    39        It is not difficult because you read the notes.  I assume
    40        you have read the notes.  You will each know where there
    41        are references to yourself which might associate you with
    42        antiMcDonald's activities.  That is the main thing.  You
    43        will each know whether there are references to things done
    44        either by Mr. Claire or someone else who may be an inquiry
    45        agent from which you would wish to argue by consent to
    46        publication on behalf of the Plaintiffs.  So that is what
    47        you have to concentrate on, if you dispute it.  A lot of
    48        those instances at the moment, I do not know whether you
    49        dispute it because it is not clear on the statements you
    50        have served which are relatively short on this topic, 
    51        whether you dispute the specific matters, accept all the 
    52        specific matters or not. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  If you go to your notes of that day.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Page 87.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  Please, 1390, you do not mention me saying about,
    59        that I was absent looking after my female partner and my
    60        child who had broken bones after an accident?

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