Day 190 - 23 Nov 95 - Page 38


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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     4   MR. RAMPTON:  Then there is Ian on page 10.  Again, it looks
     5        like hearsay from Steve Percy.  We will have to find out
     6        her source of knowledge about John Solomon.  That is the
     7        second complete one from the last.  The middle one about
     8        the wage rates I have already answered your Lordship's
     9        query.  The last one goes over the page, and again it looks
    10        as if this is pure hearsay from the employees.  Trade
    11        unions, no, not the second paragraph.  I do not know --
    12        yes, he wants the whole page, says Mr. Morris.
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    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So, you say query hearsay about the taxis, do
    15        you?
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    17   MR. RAMPTON:  I am on page 11, my Lord, sorry.  I am looking at
    18        Mr. Morris' chart.  He wants the first part of 11, the
    19        incomplete paragraph at the top of page 11, which is
    20        doubtful (I would suggest) but we will have to wait and
    21        see; the second paragraph I take to be the one "GFG asked",
    22        but I am not sure.
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    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is really no more than introduction to
    25        the second sentences in the next paragraph.
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    27   MR. RAMPTON:  I agree with that.  I agree with that, and if your
    28        Lordship were disposed to allow it for the limited reason
    29        given, and if Miss Lamb has actually heard it from several
    30        McDonald's workers, then no doubt your Lordship will allow
    31        it to be given.  Then the taxis - again, we will have to
    32        wait and see what the grounds of her knowledge are.  The
    33        last one, I think, is paragraph 2 on page 14.  I cannot see
    34        why that should be a problem.  I cannot see what relevance
    35        it has either.  It does not matter really.
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    37   MR. MORRIS:  If it helps, she was told by them that there was a
    38        case conducted against McDonald's.  Where that takes us we
    39        do not have any details of.
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    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I quite agree.  I do not think that takes us
    42        anywhere, unless you have some evidence about what -----
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    44   MR. MORRIS:  I do not.  I would have to ask her about that.
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So you are not going to pursue that?
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    48   MR. MORRIS:  I think it may help the court if she can identify
    49        what she heard.  Then it is possible we can identify what
    50        the case was. 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you should ask her before she comes 
    53        to the witness box.  It does not seem to me that is a
    54        matter of evidence.  By all means, ask her what she was
    55        with a view to try and tracking it down.
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    57   MR. RAMPTON:  That is all, I believe, that I need to say for the
    58        moment about Miss Lamb's evidence, and your Lordship will
    59        see why it is that I have taken so much time over it.
    60        Whatever the result of your Lordship's ruling on this

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