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     1        A.  Yes.
 
     2   Q.   RDA (recommended daily amounts) was used, at any rate, up
              to or beyond 1979?
     3        A.  Yes.
 
     4   Q.   Perhaps 1979 was when they first changed that from RDI, is
              that what happened?
     5        A.  I think so.
 
     6   Q.    Now we get: "DRV:  Dietary reference value. A term used
              to cover LRNI, EAR, RNI and safe intake".  We are coming
     7        to those in a moment.  Is that the state of the art
              terminology "DRV" in this country?
     8        A.  Well, that is what has emerged from this report.
 
     9   Q.   EAR is the "Estimated Average Requirement of a group of
              people for energy or protein or a vitamin or mineral.
    10        About half will usually need more than the EAR, and half
              less".  That would depend on what they are doing, who they
    11        are, what their size is and so on and so forth?
              A.  Yes.
    12
         Q.  "LRNI:  Lower Reference Nutrient Intake for protein or a
    13        vitamin or mineral.  An amount of the nutrient that is
              enough for only the few people in a group who have low
    14        needs".  Then: "RNI:  Reference Nutrient Intake for
              protein or a vitamin or mineral.  An amount of the
    15        nutrient that is enough, or more than enough, for about
              97% of people in a group. If average intake of a group is
    16        at RNI, then the risk of deficiency in the group is very
              small".
    17
              Does that mean that when we are talking about the needs of
    18        the population at large, if we are going to generalise for
              a particular vitamin or mineral or protein, we use RNI?
    19        A.  Yes, that is what we normally do.
 
    20   Q.   "Safe intake: A term used to indicate intake or range of
              intakes of a nutrient for which there is not enough
    21        information to estimate RNI, EAR or LRNI.  It is an amount
              that is enough for almost everyone but not so large as to
    22        cause undesirable effects".  Then there are "Terms
              relating to fat".  I will not trouble you with those now
    23        because we are going to come to those.  "Terms relating to
              carbohydrates" and "Terms relating to proteins".
    24
              Did the committee which produced this report whose
    25        membership we see on page (ix) give birth to a number of
              different panels to look at different problems? 
    26        A.  Yes, as I understand it, that is how the procedure was 
              conducted. 
    27
         Q.   Do we see the membership of the different panels listed on
    28        the next succeeding pages as far as little (xvi)?
              A.  Yes.
    29
         Q.   Taking as an example, the panel on DRV's (as I will call
    30        them, if you do not mind) "Working Group on Fat and
              Carbohydrates" on page (xii).  Cast your eye down the

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