Day 077 - 25 Jan 95 - Page 67
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2 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, I will, but I may need the witness's help, my
3 Lord, so if I may I will pass him up the originals because
4 they are somewhat easier to follow.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Then if you care just to declare what total
7 you come to, if the Defendants wish to pursue it any
8 further they can.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: I will declare, and this is very provisional
11 because I have not had time to spend a long time on it, a
12 total of 83.87 short tonnes. May I also declare, or
13 perhaps I had better not declare the individual batches,
14 that might be controversial.
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16 Is the first document, Mr. Walker, before you typed in red
17 or not? May I have them back? I had better get them in
18 the same order. I will use the originals. Mr. Walker,
19 I am sorry about this. May I ask you to use the the copies
20 in the file? Have you got it open at tab 3 page 1 which is
21 headed W. Weddel & Company?
22 A. Yes.
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24 Q. Who are or who were Weddel & Company?
25 A. Weddel & Company were meat wholesalers, one of the
26 Vesty.
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28 Q. Meat wholesalers?
29 A. Yes.
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31 Q. Importers?
32 A. Yes.
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34 Q. Are they anything to do with the Vesty organisation?
35 A. Yes, they are one of the Vesty companies.
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37 Q. Is it a wholly owned subsidiary of the Vesty Group?
38 A. Yes, it is.
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40 Q. Do Weddel & Co. own or did they in those days own any
41 establishments overseas or not?
42 A. Not under the name Weddel, sir. I mean, they were all
43 part of the Union International Group and the Union
44 International Group was the holding company. They were
45 sister companies, you know, there were companies all over
46 the world that were sister companies.
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48 Q. You worked for Vesty Group, did you not, at one time?
49 A. Yes, I did.
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51 Q. Did you get to know them well or not?
52 A. Very well.
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54 Q. Do you know Lord Sam Vesty?
55 A. Yes, I do.
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57 Q. Is he the head of the family?
58 A. Yes, he is.
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60 Q. How old was he in 1983, do you know, roughly, a young man,
