Day 138 - 20 Jun 95 - Page 46
1 there anything in the process which ended up with Kahan's
2 operation being organised that gave you any discomfort?
3 A. None whatsoever.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Has he stayed as an owner/operator or a joint
6 venture partner?
7 A. Yes, he has.
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9 Q. How many restaurants does he have now, do you know?
10 A. Saul would have 12 to 15.
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12 MR. RAMPTON: Thank you. Now, Mr. Stein, we will move a few
13 miles north to Chicago, but a few years back in time to
14 1978?
15 A. OK.
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17 Q. The Lyon Webber affair?
18 A. Sure.
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20 Q. Let me read you what the Defendants allege. It is in two
21 parts, my Lord, 49 and 112 in the abstract. The first one
22 is quite short, Mr. Stein: "In the United States in or
23 around 1978/79 the Plaintiff was hostile to the union
24 recruitment drive. A Chicago labour report criticised
25 McDonald's for unlawful retaliation methods". Pausing
26 there, is that true?
27 A. No, that is not true.
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29 Q. Then it is expanded at 112 which, my Lord, is on page 40 at
30 the top: "In Chicago in January 1978, following a majority
31 of vote for union affiliation in a Chicago McDonald's, an
32 employee who was a member of the hotel and restaurant
33 employees union". Is that one of the ones that you
34 mentioned to his Lordship earlier?
35 A. Yes.
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37 Q. Which specialises in the sort of work that your people do?
38 A. That is correct.
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40 Q. "An employee who was a member of that union asked for union
41 recognition. The store management tried to persuade
42 employees not to join by running an anti-union publicity
43 campaign". Before I ask you questions of fact, Mr. Stein,
44 is this something with which you have personal knowledge?
45 A. Yes, I did.
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47 Q. Were you involved?
48 A. Yes, I was.
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50 Q. I do not know whether this is one store or more, is it?
51 Can you remember?
52 A. Sure I can. The principal store involved was the
53 Warbash Avenue store in Chicago.
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55 Q. That is right?
56 A. Lyon Webber are two partners who are owners and Lyon
57 Webber had a total of 8 stores, if I recall correctly, at
58 that time.
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60 Q. Now the pleading, the allegation, goes on as follows: "The
