Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 58
1 Q. Right. So, if a demonstration was organised at
2 Headquarters by London Greenpeace involving, as you claim,
3 circulation of the fact sheets, that would be a
4 particularly strong piece of evidence?
5 A. No, no.
6
7 Q. The actual coming to your Headquarters -----
8 A. What I was after were the people who were the authors
9 and the distributors world wide, not who was standing
10 outside of restaurants. I have got plenty of photographs
11 of people handing them out outside of restaurants.
12 I wanted to know who the main organisers were.
13
14 Q. There you have London Greenpeace organising a demonstration
15 right outside your Headquarters, which you say involved the
16 distribution of the London Greenpeace fact sheet, and you
17 have come and given evidence about it -- you included it in
18 your statement because you thought it was a significant
19 moment?
20 A. Yes.
21
22 Q. So, you would have been aware that that particular
23 demonstration would be evidence in any likely future case?
24 A. Not strong evidence. That is not the evidence
25 I wanted. I wanted to know who the organisers of
26 London Greenpeace were.
27
28 Q. Yes. You had met with the Special Branch a month before.
29 They have shown you photographs of people which you then
30 observed at the demonstration at the Headquarters. So you
31 made a point to be there yourself, that you remembered the
32 photographs that were shown to you -- you probably even had
33 copies of them, I do not know ---
34 A. No.
35
36 Q. -- and it sticks in your mind to this day?
37 A. Yes.
38
39 Q. Because that was a very important demonstration?
40 A. That was not what I was after. I must repeat, I was
41 after who -- if I could find out the author, the main
42 people concerned, the distributors and the printer.
43 I wanted everyone in the net, if I could get them. I was
44 not going to get that from a demonstration outside of Head
45 Office. As far as I was concerned, at that time, what the
46 demonstration outside of Head Office provided me with was
47 an opportunity to take some photographs of the people
48 involved. Nothing else.
49
50 Q. You looked at the photographs and you have pointed out
51 particular -----
52
53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We are going over and over the ground. You
54 are just arguing with the witness now what you have to
55 argue to me in due course, putting it in its proper context
56 as you see it. I mean, we had this on a previous occasion
57 when Mr. Preston was being cross-examined. Rightly or
58 wrongly, he says he did not have enough for his purposes.
59
60 MR. MORRIS: Can we just, on one subject -----
