Day 081 - 31 Jan 95 - Page 19


     
     1
     2   Q.   You did not see any documents relating to that?
     3        A.  No.
     4
     5   Q.   Did they say what the diseases were or anything like that?
     6        A.  No.
     7
     8   Q.   They did not?
     9        A.  No.
    10
    11   Q.   On the following page there are a couple of mentions of the
    12        "hazard analysis critical control point" being in use.
    13        Did you ask about when that was introduced by the firm?
    14        A.  I do not recall asking them that, no.
    15
    16   Q.   Do you know when it was introduced?
    17        A.  No.  Unless, if I can refer to the notes I made at the
    18        time, I might have made a note of it?
    19
    20   Q.   Yes, OK.
    21        A.  I just made a note that the checks were done hourly but
    22        not when they were first started.
    23
    24   Q.   OK.  In the third paragraph on page 3 of the statement, you
    25        have said:  "Quality control procedures were in place
    26        throughout the process operation to ensure a quality
    27        product free from contamination".  What do you mean by
    28        "free from contamination"?
    29        A.  Well, this is to try to ensure there is no unnecessary
    30        contamination from the gut contents of the bird.
    31
    32   Q.   But is it actually possible to have a situation where it is
    33        completely free of contamination?
    34        A.  No, not that I know of.
    35
    36   Q.   It is not?  On page 4 of the statement in the final
    37        paragraph under "overall impression", I do not know whether
    38        you just want to read that again?  You have made mention of
    39        records being maintained at every stage of the process, and
    40        I wanted to know whether you saw those records and what
    41        those records were of.
    42        A.  There were records from the time that the birds came in
    43        and at the HACCP stages throughout.  I did see the HACCP
    44        records.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I think you are being asked, first of
    47        all, did you actually see the records or was this what you
    48        were told?
    49        A.  No, I did see the HACCP records, sir.
    50 
    51   Q.   I think Ms. Steel is asking you what form they took, what 
    52        did they actually record? 
    53        A.  Yes, these were A4 sheets with columns which were
    54        filled in.  I cannot remember the details on the sheets, to
    55        be honest.  I did not make a note on that.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  You do not remember what details were recorded?
    58        A.  No, I am afraid I do not.
    59
    60   Q.   So did you actually look at the records or did you just see

Prev Next Index