Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 61


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  Potatoes and chips were treated seperately.
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     3   MR. MORRIS:  What page are we on?
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     5   MR. RAMPTON:  Page 46 table 8 and it is the bottom section.
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     7   MR. MORRIS:  We do at not have that page?
     8        A.   There is no doubt that potatoes, even fried potatoes,
     9        are a good source of vitamin C, I will accept that.   I
    10        think that is fair evidence.
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    12   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I can come back to that later on in that
    13        case, we do not need any figures now.  One small final
    14        point on this page Professor Crawford, at the bottom you
    15        have written:
    16
    17        "Many factors are involved in the geographical and
    18        socio-economic contrast in heart disease and cancer, diet
    19        being one."
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.  "Author Willett and Powell Rosemund(?) (reads to the words)
    23        contribute to 30 thousand deaths a year in the USA."
    24        A.  Yes.
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    26   Q.  "Trans-isomers are a biological equivalent to saturated fat
    27        and are derived from fats of ruminants, such as sheep, and
    28        hydrogenated vegetable oils."
    29
    30        The trans-isomers or trans fatty acids which are found in
    31        ruminants are not thought to constitute a hazard to human
    32        health, are they?
    33        A.   On what grounds?
    34
    35   Q.   On what grounds?  I have the answer to your question as it
    36        happens?
    37        A.   Biologically the trans-isomer, whether it is in a
    38        ruminant animal or whether it is produced by catalytic
    39        hydrogenation is the same, chemically.
    40
    41   Q.   Let me try putting something to you?
    42        A.   You get a much wider rage of trans-isomers when you
    43        hydrogenate vegetable oils than you do from the simple
    44        ruminant process.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But the trans-isomer in the ruminant is
    47        passed, is it, into the human system?
    48        A.  Yes.
    49
    50   Q.   If you eat animal meat?
    51        A.  Yes, if you eat animal fat.
    52
    53   Q.   Yes?
    54        A.  It is not in the meat itself as it so happens, it is
    55        predominantly in fat.
    56
    57   Q.   I am sorry, but if you eat an animal meat dish which has
    58        some animal fat in it?
    59        A.  Yes.
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