Day 105 - 16 Mar 95 - Page 63


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  We shall get on a lot faster if I am allowed to
     2        finish my line of questioning.  I have actually, my Lord,
     3        now got a copy of the regulations; it belongs to
     4        Mr. Bennett.  One part came into force on 1st October 1992
     5        and the second part on 1st January.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I not just look at those -- not now
     8        necessarily.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  No, it is a thicket.  I would not suggest your
    11        Lordship look at it now.  I do not propose to disclose it
    12        as it is a public document and I will get a copy for your
    13        Lordship, of course.
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  Whether it is public or not, if it is relevant it
    16        should be disclosed.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, it is a statutory or regulatory
    19        provision.  In fact, if I get a copy, I will make sure you
    20        get one, so do not worry about it.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  I probably will too, but I am not obliged to.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is not disclosable any more than Gattley
    25        on Libel and Slander is.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  What I was actually going to ask
    28        as a question of fact, which is what I was leading to up to
    29        before Ms. Steel stood up, is this:  Do you know, as a
    30        matter of fact, Mr. Bennett, and if you do not, say so,
    31        what period of grace Jarretts had and whether they did what
    32        they did within that period of grace or not?
    33        A.  I do not know a positive answer to that.  I could only
    34        draw from conclusions.
    35
    36   Q.   Do not speculate then.  Secondly, what actually did they do
    37        to their detention room, physically speaking?  Did they
    38        just put in a refrigerator or whatever, or did they do
    39        something more than that?
    40        A.  They refrigerated the detention section of that
    41        particular part of the plant.  There was a detention room
    42        and condemned room next to it.  The changes that were made
    43        was that refrigeration was put into the detention room.
    44
    45   Q.   Excuse my ignorance, but if you refrigerate a room in a
    46        building, do you have to put in insulation and so on and so
    47        forth or not?
    48        A.  Not for a small room, it is not essential.  It is
    49        rather more expensive to hold the temperature at the
    50        correct temperature and for that it is usually better to 
    51        insulate it. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Do you know whether they did or whether they did not?
    54        A.  I honestly could not answer that.
    55
    56   Q.   Finally this, Mr. Bennett, you spoke -- this is something
    57        which we are only, I think, partly dealing with so far in
    58        this case -- of a stage at which the spoilage bacteria
    59        begin to replace, or displace, or obliterate, I do not know
    60        what it is, any pathogenic bacteria that might be on the

Prev Next Index