Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 55


     
     1        particularly wanting to do their job.
     2
     3   Q.   With a hangover?
     4        A.  Well, yes; some of them with a slight hangover, yes, in
     5        which case they would not be performing their duties and
     6        their responsibilities and their attitude may not be the
     7        desired attitude for the rest of the crew to work with let
     8        alone the management, and that may have been one of the
     9        reasons why a crew member would have been sent home without
    10        pay.
    11
    12   MS. STEEL:   But this was specifically about answering back;
    13        they would not necessarily have to be hung over or drunk or
    14        whatever, would they?
    15        A.  No, not necessarily, but it depends on what the
    16        incident of answering back was in relation to.
    17
    18   Q.   You said that during the period that you were responsible
    19        for West Ealing you do not recall any incidents of
    20        employees failing to return to work after suspension apart
    21        from those who had been dismissed.  What you are referring
    22        to there, if the crew had basically either been sent home
    23        for answering back without any kind of formal disciplinary
    24        procedure or had got fed up with repeated toilet duty, or
    25        something like that, then you would not actually get to
    26        hear about it anyway, would you, because there would not be
    27        any kind of formal disciplinary procedure?
    28        A.  In relation to -- no, I probably would not if it was
    29        just where they did not return to work, it would not
    30        necessarily be something that would be brought to my
    31        attention.
    32
    33   Q.   Have you ever been told by a crew member that they have
    34        joined a union?
    35        A.  No.
    36
    37   Q.   Or that they were a member of a union?
    38        A.  I have known of crew members being members of unions,
    39        but it was not a relevant issue really.
    40
    41   Q.   It was not something they told you themselves?
    42        A.  Well, it was something that if you are having a
    43        conversation with somebody, because McDonald's is quite a
    44        social or we have social events where you meet people
    45        outside the work environment and you have one on one
    46        conversations with them and it is something that could have
    47        just been mentioned in passing, but it was not an issue or
    48        anything that I remember distinctly, anybody making a
    49        specific point about.
    50 
    51   Q.   There were not active members? 
    52        A.  I have no idea. 
    53
    54   Q.   You do not remember them organising other crew members in
    55        the store?
    56        A.  Absolutely not.
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:  I have got no further questions.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.

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