Day 124 - 10 May 95 - Page 56
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2 MR. MORRIS: Are you aware there was controversy over publicity
3 where he condemned his former role and said: "I apologise"
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6 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, this again is being presented as though
7 there has been some evidence in this court; there has not
8 been any at all. The question is: "Are you aware whether
9 there is" not "that there was" and -----
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think it is just Mr. Morris' use of
12 language.
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14 MR. RAMPTON: I know it is, but it is not very fair on the
15 witness because the witness may be misled into thinking
16 there was some evidence of it.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, he has been asked whether he was aware of
19 it. You start again because we have got this potential
20 difficulty that he has not heard of someone called Geoffrey
21 Juliano.
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23 MR. MORRIS: Yes. If I can maybe jog your memory, that ---
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25 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I am sorry.
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27 MR. MORRIS: -- was there controversy ----
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29 MR. RAMPTON: No, I am sorry, my Lord, Mr. Morris must -----
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31 MR. MORRIS: Why do you not just tell the witness what to say?
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33 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord, I must make an objection. Your
34 Lordship will recall, in fact, that this part of the
35 Defence the Defendants were compelled to amend into the
36 direct allegation put into reported speech, as it
37 originally was, in the mouth of Geoffrey Juliano of whom,
38 of course, nobody has ever heard.
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40 MR. MORRIS: People have heard of him because we have talked to
41 him.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We have not had a witness yet; we may have
44 many more witnesses to come. Just pause a moment.
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46 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship will remember that my
47 objection -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am just looking into the Abstract to find
50 how it stands at the moment.
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52 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know how it stands at the moment but I do
53 recall your Lordship's ruling which I may be able to find.
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55 MR. MORRIS: With respect, it is all completely irrelevant
56 because I am trying to ask the witness -----
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, do not worry you will have plenty of
59 opportunity to ask what you want to. For my own
60 education, I am not going to read it out, I just want to
