Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 48


     
     1   Q.   So you are an expert at it are you?
     2        A.   No.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, no.  I do not accept that.  Anyone who
     5        has been involved in one or two burglary trials knows how
     6        to use a plastic card, even to get into their own house
     7        when they have locked themselves out, if you happen to have
     8        a slack lock.  By all means ask him if he is an expert of
     9        it but I should think quite a high proportion of the public
    10        might know how to get into their house with one of their
    11        credit cards.
    12
    13   MS. STEEL:  They might know it in theory but whether they can do
    14        in it practice is another matter.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They have probably done it--
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:  Pardon, Mr. Rampton?
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   By all means ask him if he is an expert in
    21        it if you think it goes to his credit, but do not assume
    22        because he has done it I will think he is an expert in it.
    23
    24   MS. STEEL:  Had you done it many times before?
    25        A.  No, I had not.
    26
    27   Q.   Never?
    28        A.   I do not recall.
    29
    30   Q.   You do not remember, so you might have done it before?
    31        A.   I do not remember.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  How long in total were you a private investigator?
    34        A.   In total?
    35
    36   Q.   Yes?
    37        A.   It would probably be about 6 or 7 years.
    38
    39   Q.   Six or seven years, and you cannot recall a single occasion
    40        of entering someone's premises uninvited?
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, is that what you really mean to put,
    43        slipping a lock, because there can be a world of
    44        difference?
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  You have never slipped a lock before as part of
    47        your professional duty?
    48        A.   I cannot recall.
    49
    50   Q.   Does that mean you cannot recall or you just don't 
    51        remember? 
    52        A.  It means, I may but I do not recall. 
    53
    54   Q.   But you remember doing it on this occasion?
    55        A.   Yes.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  Was it something you were trained to do when you
    58        became a private investigator?
    59        A.   No, I was not.
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