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     1        it.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Make them in due course.  If Ms. Mead had
     4        said that she had carried out some research or particular
     5        enquiry, she might be able to elaborate but she said that
     6        she has not.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  From your knowledge, say, for example, if we look
     9        at 0 to one month -----
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  About one in 15 people.
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  They do not all leave after one day ---
    14        A.  No.
    15
    16   Q.   -- do they, or they do not usually leave exactly on the
    17        month.  If we can fair enough say it should be somewhere in
    18        the middle?
    19        A.  Yes, you could certainly -----
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  No, she might say that most of those leave in one
    22        day.
    23
    24   THE WITNESS:  I do not know.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am sorry, this is supposed to be the
    27        evidence; not Mr. Morris makes the witness try to agree
    28        with what may or may not be a common sense assumption
    29        which, in any event, is for your Lordship and not for the
    30        witness.  If the witness knows as a fact that it is so,
    31        that the average leaving time within that bracket is two
    32        weeks or whatever, then let her say so.  If she does not
    33        know, then this questioning should stop and we should go
    34        somewhere else.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If Ms. Mead does not know, I cannot attach
    37        any weight to her answer whether she agrees or not.  Do not
    38        forget, it is not saying when people leave; it is saying
    39        the length of time they have actually been in service.  You
    40        may ask me in due course to draw a conclusion that on
    41        balance probabilities that means X per cent.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  It has to, if it is over a year it has to.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  All that document shows -- you have your
    46        turnover figures which you may wish to combine with this to
    47        invite me to draw a conclusion, but all this says is that
    48        in this quarter and the equivalent quarter for the previous
    49        year something like one in 15 employees had been with
    50        McDonald's for a month or less.  Unfortunately, Ms. Mead 
    51        cannot help us any further on her own experience. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  Rather than ask questions, if I can just make my
    54        calculation on the basis of these figures on the length of
    55        stay, a typical length of stay, of McDonald's employees,
    56        that based upon the first quarter quoted of the figures,
    57        the percentages, if we take an average store of a 100
    58        people as an example to make the calculation easier --
    59        other people can make this calculation, if they wish --
    60        I have calculated that from the bottom upwards the first

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