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     1        there were three different rates.
     2
     3   Q.   We are going to go back to your original statement in a
     4        minute.  I am working through my notes.  What was the
     5        Company's attitude to trade unions, or what did you hear
     6        about trade unions while you were at the store?  I am not
     7        talking about the specific McDonald's Freedom Fighters and
     8        that incident, but -----
     9        A.  Just a basic rumour around the store that I had heard
    10        from various managers, saying that McDonald's does not like
    11        unions; when a store tried to start a union -- no specific
    12        store mentioned -- the store was closed and staff were
    13        brought in from another store.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Pause there.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  You say the store was closed and staff brought
    18        in -----
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:   My Lord, I do not know that we can get much
    21        further down this road.  Mr. Morris is now trying to
    22        establish a fact which is plainly -----
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I have understood perfectly well what
    25        he said the rumour was.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:  I just thought, in terms of clarification, the staff
    28        coming in to re-open the store, I do not know whether it is
    29        worth clarifying.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is what I had understood it meant, yes.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  One final question on the additional notes:  Litter
    34        patrols:  Have you anything to say about the Company's
    35        attitude or use of environment/index.html">litter patrols?
    36        A.  I would say that they were very rarely done.  Usually
    37        as a punishment, a Manager would punish a member of staff
    38        by sending them on a environment/index.html">litter patrol.  The immediate area
    39        outside the front of the store would be kept free of environment/index.html">litter
    40        by the lobby hostess.
    41
    42   Q.   Going back to your statement -----
    43
    44   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, again I am not trying to be difficult,
    45        but I wonder how much we are going to get which is not in
    46        the statement of which we have had no notice.  I hate to be
    47        a bore about it, but your Lordship did say that any
    48        substantial extension of what is in the witness statement,
    49        though your Lordship might give leave for it, had to be the
    50        subject of an application. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, just tell me what sort of things you 
    53        want to ask about.
    54
    55   MR. MORRIS:  Basically, to explain what it says in the
    56        statement, and if Mr. Rampton wants to object to any
    57        particular question, he should do it at the time
    58        because  -----
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord my objection is that Mr. Morris has

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