Day 121 - 04 May 95 - Page 50


     
     1        be authorised by you ---
     2        A.  Yes, well .....
     3
     4   Q.   -- and possibly -----
     5        A.  No, I mean, Carmel Flatley as my deputy had authority
     6        to send out memos.  It depended upon the subject matter.
     7        If it was a matter of routine -- for instance, we have what
     8        we call a "benefit" in the summer months.  We start half an
     9        hour earlier and finish at 1 o'clock on Friday.  It is
    10        every year.  That would go out from the Personnel
    11        Administrator.  She would be authorised to send that out.
    12        It is only telling people, reminding them, that summer hour
    13        workings begins on such and such a day.
    14
    15   Q.   But if it was something to do with policy?
    16        A.  If it was to do with policy that affected the whole
    17        Company, and it was a personnel matter, it would come from
    18        me or from Carmel Flatley, if it was something to do with
    19        benefits and ------
    20
    21   Q.   If she sent out something about policy which you said
    22        afterwards:  "Blimey, you should not have sent that out; it
    23        is outrageous" -----
    24        A.  No, she would always refer to me.  She would let me
    25        know what she was sending out.
    26
    27   Q.   Right, but she might sign it?
    28        A.  She might sign it.
    29
    30   Q.   But you would take responsibility for it?
    31        A.  Oh, yes, because she would have referred it to me.
    32        That would be proper.  When it came to the day-to-day
    33        running of the Personnel Department, I left a lot of it to
    34        Carmel, supervising the regional managers, meeting with the
    35         -- this was in the later years, not in 84/85, but when
    36        I became heavily involved in franchising, I had to leave a
    37        lot of the day-to-day running of the Personnel Department
    38        to Carmel Flatley and a lot of the day-to-day running of
    39        the Security Department to Terry Carron, so that I could
    40        concentrate on franchising.  I was the only person in
    41        franchising.
    42
    43   Q.   I understand.
    44        A.  So they referred to me.  I met with them.  I tried to
    45        make it ------
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just leave it there and Mr. Morris will ask
    48        you more if he wants to.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  So this kind of approach which is the that the head 
    51        of the department sees things which are on matters of 
    52        policy, whatever you said before --- 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.   -- would that be unusual for your department or would that
    56        apply to all departments, that kind of thing?
    57        A.  Oh, I see what you mean.  Well, that was the way I run
    58        my department.  I cannot -- I would imagine other
    59        department heads did the same, that is accepting your
    60        responsibilities as a department head, but I cannot say

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