Day 111 - 30 Mar 95 - Page 62
1 A. He is British, yes.
2
3 Q. Do your children eat hamburgers?
4 A. No, they do not normally.
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6 Q. Do they eat meat?
7 A. Yes.
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9 Q. What is your objection to their eating hamburgers?
10 A. Well, at the moment it is BSE in this country.
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12 Q. Oh, I see. Have you got that German document there,
13 Physikalische Verfahren zur Haltbarmachung?
14 A. Yes, the one about ------
15
16 Q. With the table?
17 A. Yes.
18
19 Q. I probably was not listening carefully enough. Can you
20 tell me what the words above the column of temperature
21 figures mean in English?
22 A. Minimal growth temperatures.
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24 Q. Does that mean, according to the authors of this work at
25 any rate, that they will not grow below those temperatures
26 generally?
27 A. Generally, yes.
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29 Q. So that, for example, it is thought, according to this
30 authority, that salmonella will not grow below, I do not
31 know which species of salmonella that is, but below 6
32 degrees centigrade?
33 A. Yes, that is right.
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35 Q. The enteropathogenic E.coli types, including, I assume,
36 0157, will not grow below 8 to 10?
37 A. Well, at the time when this was written, E.coli 0157
38 did not exist. It had not been ------
39
40 Q. It had not been discovered?
41 A. So they had not obviously made any experiments on that.
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43 Q. Do you know the date of this work?
44 A. This book was publicised in 1980.
45
46 Q. 1980. Do you have any reason to suppose that E.coli
47 0157: H7 proliferates at a higher temperature than, say, 8
48 degrees or 7 degrees centigrade?
49 A. No, scientific reason.
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51 Q. This is one of the things I want to find out overnight, you
52 appreciate. Have you got your statement there that you made
53 for these proceedings?
54 A. Yes.
55
56 Q. I would like you to look at paragraph 6. Have you got
57 paragraph 6 there?
58 A. Yes, I do.
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60 Q. I would like you to look at the two sentences or paragraphs
