Day 275 - 08 Jul 96 - Page 31


     
     1        A.  Okay.
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Two 2 o'clock.
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     5                       (Luncheon adjournment)
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     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have dealt with 8th February 1990, or Mr.
     8        Claire's note of it.
     9        A.  Right.  The next one, I think, is page 87.
    10
    11   Q.   1st March 1990.
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  Which person is this?
    14        A.  Which is Alan Clare.  Going through it in the order it
    15        is in.  Firstly, about Dave.  I have never heard him say
    16        that he has helped to organise the 1989 fayre,
    17        anti-McDonald's fayre, and I would have been very surprised
    18        if he had have done, because, as far as anybody who had any
    19        participation in the group at any time, would know that it
    20        was Paul that organised it with Charlie helping with the
    21        entertainment, and I have never heard Dave -- I have also
    22        never heard Dave say that he helped produce the leaflets
    23        for the anti-McDonald's campaign or that he had great
    24        involvement in it, or that he was organising the 1990
    25        London Greenpeace fayre.  Well, like I say, I am sure I
    26        would remember it if he had said any such thing because as
    27        far as I am concerned it would not be true from my
    28        knowledge of other things that had been said at the
    29        meetings.
    30
    31             In terms of what I am supposed to have said, I would
    32        not have said that Paul Alan was preparing a leaflet.  If
    33        somebody had said, "Oh, what has happened to that leaflet
    34        that Paul said he was writing", I might have said "He is
    35        still doing it as far as I know", but I would not have used
    36        the name Paul Alan and I have not known him as Paul Alan,
    37        and anyway, people usually only use their first names at
    38        the meetings.
    39
    40             The next bit about Dave is just basically the same as
    41        what I said, it seems to be repetitive that.  It is
    42        certainly not my impression that he was every strongly
    43        involved in the anti-McDonald's campaign.  In fact, I do
    44        not remember him having anything to say about McDonald's
    45        generally apart from times when he said that the group
    46        should be moving on to other issues.
    47
    48             Just on Anthony Pocklington's notes of 1st March, page
    49        90, it is not a particularly important bit, but the last
    50        full paragraph on the page, it was actually an antipoll tax
    51        demonstration or rally.  If it was a rally he may have
    52        thought it meant meeting, but the other thing is that I was
    53        not the secretary of the antipoll tax group, I was the
    54        treasurer.  At the beginning of the notes where
    55        Mr. Pocklington says about "due to lack of numbers and lack
    56        of essential people at meeting at the meeting little was
    57        discussed".  Just that there weren't any people who were,
    58        strictly speaking, essential.  However, if there weren't
    59        many people there, or weren't many people who were regular
    60        attenders, then sometimes, you know, there might be less

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