Day 263 - 14 Jun 96 - Page 62


     
     1        A.  Simply because I did not make contemporaneous notes of
     2        the events.  I think -- I mean, that was completed in May
     3        1993.  I may have thought I had at that time, but later
     4        realised I had not made any contemporaneous notes.
     5
     6   Q.   You had a notebook in that meeting, did you not, and you
     7        were taking notes of what was going on at that meeting?
     8        A.  No, I am sure I did not take notes there because I
     9        would have thought -- I am sure I would have thought it
    10        inappropriate to do so.
    11
    12   Q.   You told the meeting that you were a journalist?
    13        A.  I said I was Jack from Mitcham.  I do not recall
    14        describing myself in any other way.
    15
    16   Q.   I put it to you that you did have a notebook at the
    17        meeting, that you told the meeting that you were a
    18        journalist and you made notes of the meeting at the time?
    19        A.  No, I am pretty sure I did not because I would have
    20        thought, frankly, it would have been imprudent for me
    21        there, in the capacity I was, to make notes.  I would have
    22        then stood up rather more than I would have wanted to.
    23
    24   Q.   But, of course, that would have tallied with your
    25        statement?
    26        A.  It tallies with my statement, yes.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It does not tally with your statement because
    29        you crossed it out and initialled it, but you mean it
    30        tallies with the draft which ---
    31        A.  Yes, I am sorry, my Lord.
    32
    33   Q.   -- you were asked to read and correct, if necessary.
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it says "After the meeting".  In fact,
    36        even in the draft it says "After the meeting".
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I appreciate that.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  So, you told the solicitor that you had made a
    41        contemporaneous note?
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that right or not?  Mr. Morris is putting
    44        it to you.  You cannot tell him that is what he said.  Ask
    45        him whether he did.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  I thought it had been accepted.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not sure it has, you see.  It might have
    50        been from the way Ms. Steel asked her question and the way 
    51        the answer was given, I quite agree. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  Is the situation that you told the solicitor who
    54        wrote -- your statement was typed up by the solicitors,
    55        yes?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   And is it that you told the solicitors that you had made a
    59        contemporaneous note and then they put that in; then later
    60        you remembered that you had not?

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