Day 266 - 20 Jun 96 - Page 26


     
     1        high in burgers at risk from vitamin C deficiency.  I have,
     2        in the past, heard of cases where they have been
     3        approaching scurvy -- and there was one actually in the
     4        literature that I read, about approaching scurvy when the
     5        diet consisted mainly of hamburgers.
     6
     7   Q.   May be you mistake the purpose of my question.  When you
     8        made your remark a moment ago you were asked a question
     9        about McDonald's food and you responded in general terms.
    10        Am I right that your response was indeed a general response
    11        and what you are talking about are overall dietary
    12        deficiencies or excesses?
    13
    14   Q.   Which particular response are you referring to?
    15        A.   The one you gave just now, the last question Miss
    16        Steel asked you.  She asked you a question about McDonald's
    17        food and you responded by saying that a diet that is high
    18        in fat, or whatever it may be, and low in vitamins and
    19        minerals is bad for you?
    20        A.   Correct, yes.
    21
    22   Q.   I then asked you which minerals and vitamins you proposed
    23        that McDonald's food is low in?
    24        A.   Well, there was one that I mentioned, vitamin C.
    25
    26   Q.   Yes?
    27        A.   Would be one.  The antioxidant nutrients is another.
    28        The antioxidant nutrients have been almost becoming a
    29        category of vitamins in themselves, they have been quite
    30        recently brought into the public view.  They are found
    31        exclusively in fresh fruit and vegetables, and I would say
    32        that a McDonald's type meal is lacking particularly in
    33        those antioxidant nutrients, also vitamin C and assuming,
    34        it is quite possible, that people having a McDonald's type
    35        diet would not put the cheese on and would not put the
    36        diary products because they may be thinking they want to
    37        avoid the fat, and it is quite clear that if you put the
    38        cheese on, if you have the milk then, I am not aware that
    39        the McDonald's type food is of the lower fat type diary
    40        products, and the lower fat diary products are now
    41        recommended by people because, you know, the diary products
    42        themselves in some respects they might provide calcium but
    43        in other respects they are actually very high in fat.  So I
    44        think it is quite possible for somebody to be having a
    45        McDonald's type meal and then having a diet low in calcium.
    46
    47   Q.   Yes.  Thank you.  Can we pass to something else?  I am
    48        going to come back to the question of diet in a moment.
    49        Can you please find that NACNE Report?  I have called that
    50        as an acronym.  It is a slightly unattractive one.  It is
    51        tab 3 in the file which has your name and the number 1 on
    52        it, the pale green file? 
    53        A.   This one?
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, that is the one.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  I would like you to turn to tab 3 behind your name
    58        which is the NACNE Report, and page 35 of that report which
    59        is, I think, part of the recommendations, or something like
    60        that anyway.  You will find the page number--

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