Day 094 - 01 Mar 95 - Page 50
1 probability that does not happen, yes.
2
3 Q. What are the other things you can do then?
4 A. You can use what is a bunging technique where you have
5 to, also the area, the anus is also tied up. You could
6 apply a -- cover the tail with plastic.
7
8 Q. Cover the tail with plastic?
9 A. Yes, with a plastic bag to prevent it from
10 contaminating the carcass or other carcasses.
11
12 Q. But how would that help with contamination from leaking or
13 breaking the bladder ingestor from the paunch and bile from
14 the liver. That would not help with that, would it?
15 A. I think in the whole digestive tract, and the part, let
16 us start with the anus, will contaminate, the tail will be
17 part of that. So, if you cover that area and tie it up on
18 both sides with both ends, that will help prevent that. By
19 creating a higher conscious with the employees, you will
20 get that not very often.
21
22 Q. So does it depend on how carefully they do the job?
23 A. To some degree, yes.
24
25 Q. So the faster they are doing it, the less care they are
26 likely to be taking?
27 A. No, that is incorrect. There is plenty of evidence
28 that that is not the case. It is fairly well documented.
29 If that was the case there would be regulations limiting
30 the speed of the animals to the speeds at which they are
31 run today.
32
33 Q. Is it illegal for this kind of contamination to take place?
34 A. Yes, faecal, there is a regulation that requires
35 (indecipherable) tolerance, so faecal contamination is
36 considered an adulterant, a tainted meat.
37
38 Q. What about ingestor from the paunch and bile from the
39 liver, would that be breaking any laws?
40 A. It is -- yes.
41
42 Q. It would be?
43 A. Any part of the ingestor, yes.
44
45 Q. So when you have seen it happen has that meat been
46 immediately rejected then?
47 A. That is correct.
48
49 Q. So do the companies reject a large percentage of the meat
50 because of this?
51 A. No.
52
53 Q. Does that happen anywhere in the United States?
54 A. Yes, that has happened.
55
56 Q. Would you agree that once the spillage from the large
57 intestine occurred everything on the table including the
58 by-products become contaminated?
59 A. If there is a spillage of the digestive tract, yes, it
60 becomes contaminated.
