Day 207 - 23 Jan 96 - Page 09


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, thank you.  I had completely forgotten
     2        that so it is just as well it has been raised now.
     3
     4   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  (To the witness):  But it is still Company
     5        policy, is it not, to schedule people past for women 10.00
     6        and males 12.00, or do you know what the Company policy is
     7        on the scheduling of under 18s?
     8        A.  It is that, yes, as you stated.
     9
    10   Q.   Right, that girls should not work past 10.00 and boys
    11        should not work past midnight -- under 18s?
    12        A.  I am not entirely sure about the female time limit but,
    13        so far as I am aware, it is definitely for male persons
    14        under that age it is 12.00.
    15
    16   Q.   You are the person in charge of scheduling, yes?
    17        A.  I have been, yes.
    18
    19   Q.   You still are?
    20        A.  I still do the schedule.
    21
    22   Q.   You still do the schedule.  Yes.  The third point on that
    23        list is:  "Nine breaks not taken, two short -- not taken or
    24        too short out of 10 days checks".  If you go to page 169,
    25        we can see that on four occasions people got no break at
    26        all and on five occasions there were insufficient breaks,
    27        according to this list here.  Is that worrying to you?
    28        A.  From the evidence I have got in front of me in the
    29        audit, it would concern me unless I knew the
    30        circumstances.  Well, it does worry me, yes, without any
    31        circumstances to support, you know, what is in the -----
    32
    33   Q.   Is it illegal for people not to have a break when they
    34        should have done?
    35        A.  So far as I am aware, yes, they should have breaks.
    36
    37   Q.   It is the law, is it not, yes?  On page 167, there was five
    38        out of 30 with a score under breaks taken five out of 30.
    39        The final comment, 168, on that audit was:  "It was a great
    40        improvement in standards over the last few months due to
    41        revised systems".
    42        A.  I think that is an overall view of all the audit, is it
    43        not?
    44
    45   Q.   That is the whole audit?
    46        A.  Yes, rather than just specific sections, I think.
    47
    48   Q.   Was David Wynne brought in especially to make improvements
    49        at the store?  There was some problem with the previous
    50        Manager, was there? 
    51        A.  Alan Charlesworth, I know, was moved to a branch in the 
    52        Galleries, but, as for the reason he was moved there, I was 
    53        not party to discussion he had with the Ops Manager, which
    54        was Pat McRoy, I think, at the time, so ......
    55
    56   Q.   Can you tell me what the law is on when breaks should be
    57        scheduled?
    58        A.  The law is as regards if a person works nought to three
    59        hours, their break entitlement, so far as I am aware, is no
    60        break entitlement which, if they work four to five is 15

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