Day 168 - 03 Oct 95 - Page 53
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mrs. French is up in Hertfordshire, is she?
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4 MR. RAMPTON: Sorry, my Lord?
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It looks as if Mrs. French is up in
7 Hertfordshire?
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9 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, she is. She is at Letchworth.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We will go on until about ten past or quarter
12 past four. I would like you to give me your best estimate
13 then, because it seems to me that she could certainly be
14 not before 12, and what we will consider at quarter past
15 four is whether it is best to say two o'clock; something of
16 that kind.
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18 MR. MORRIS: (To the witness) The grease trap dripping, although
19 it did not drip on to anybody's person ----
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would like to know just what the grease
22 trap is. For some reason I thought it was under the floor
23 somewhere and it is clearly not that.
24 A. That is the grease trap. He is actually referring to
25 the grease trough in his statement, which it actually sits
26 between -- where you have the bottom platens of two grills
27 together you will have a trough in the centre which the hot
28 fat and grime and carbon off the grill will go down once
29 the grill is scraped. That is -- the grease trough is what
30 actually catches that. That is all.
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32 MR. MORRIS: You have used the word "trap" in your statement as
33 well as Mr. Logan?
34 A. I actually said trough. I think in the translation it
35 got ....
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37 Q. Right. But, in any event, how long was that broken for
38 approximately?
39 A. It -- I would say it probably breaks once a week or
40 once every two weeks; there is something wrong with it.
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42 Q. That is the situation now?
43 A. Yes, I believe the Company has actually got someone
44 working on a different design of grease trap made out of
45 different material because, at the moment, it is made out
46 of stainless steel and it is very rigid and it sits on a
47 stainless steel set of hot posts underneath two grills, and
48 the idea being that when you, if you move the grill even
49 slightly then you will split a piece of the stainless
50 steel.
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52 Q. That is the situation now?
53 A. That is the situation at this moment, yes.
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55 Q. That is the standard equipment in all stores at the moment?
56 A. In a lot of stores they would have that equipment.
57 I cannot speak for every store in the country.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: At the moment, Mr. Morris, I do not
60 understand just what the problem is said to be and the
