Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 79


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Divider 12 there.  Behind it is the Willett
     3        Hunter Cohort Studies and the European Journal of Cancer
     4        Prevention.  Do you have those?
     5        A.  Yes.
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     7   MR. RAMPTON:  These are quite up to date figures, it would
     8        appear, in table 5, Professor.  Do you have table 5 there?
     9        A.  Are we talking about the Hunter paper now?
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    11   Q.   I am sorry, no, I was talking about the Hill paper which
    12        should precede that.
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    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It should be in front of that.
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    16   MR. RAMPTON:  I am on page 11.
    17        A.  No.
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    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you look behind Hunter then and see if it
    20        is there?
    21        A.  Yes, you are quite right.  Which page?
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    23   MR. RAMPTON:  Page 11, please.
    24        A.  Page 11, yes.
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    26   Q.   There is a table 5, "Mortality from cancer at various sites
    27        in men in various European countries"; yes?
    28        A.  Yes.
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    30   Q.   It says that the data come from something written by Levy
    31        and Others in 1990 and the fourth column along is,
    32        according to the key, 150 to 154 cancers of the large
    33        bowel; yes?
    34        A.  Yes.
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    36   Q.   You see at the bottom, it goes oro, pharynx, oesophagus,
    37        stomach and then large bowel?
    38        A.  Right.
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    40   Q.   You will see, for all the butter and meat they eat, the
    41        French have an index of 21.2 and, my Lord, I take it that
    42        these are numbers per 100,000, but I do not know.  Would
    43        you be able to help us with that, Professor?
    44        A.  I think that is correct.  It is annualised.
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    46   Q.   Right.  Germany has 22.5.  At the bottom of the page
    47        England and Wales have 21.5, Scotland has 22.3, and
    48        Northern Ireland 25 exactly, which averages out for the
    49        United Kingdom at about 23, which is roughly the same as
    50        Germany and a bit more than France.  Notice, however, 
    51        Professor, that in Greece the figure is 6.6. 
    52        A.  Yes. 
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    54   Q.   In Spain it is 16.3.  Is olive oil the whole reason for
    55        those differences?
    56        A.  Well, as I said before, in China we put comparable
    57        figures in there much less than that.  We can get down
    58        close to zero in rural China in the first instance.  In the
    59        second instance, the reduction in colon cancer rates in
    60        Greece and, to some extent, Spain, although I am not sure

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