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     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I just explain one thing?  You have done
              it before.  It is not up to the witness whether he or she
     2        can get it or is prepared to get it or not get it.  If
              there is a document which you think you ought to have and
     3        those who represent the plaintiffs are not willing
              voluntarily to give it to you if it is available, you have
     4        to ask me -----
 
     5   MS. STEEL:   OK.
 
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  --- whether to order it or not.
 
     7   MS. STEEL:   Can we apply for that then, please?
 
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you should carry on with your
              cross-examination and put that on your note of things we
     9        have to clear up, because you do not have to argue
              everything thing with the actual witness, if you see what
    10        I mean.
 
    11   MR. MORRIS:  No, I understand.  It is just because of
              administrative problems it is easy for us to forget
    12        something.
 
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is why I was going to say, if I have
              not got that far, make yourself a check list of the things
    14        you want to raise, then we can do it all in one go and
              I can give a ruling.  There is no harm in you saying out
    15        loud in court: We would look to see that if in due course
              you are prepared to order that we do.  Then that focuses
    16        the plaintiffs' mind on whether indeed it exists and if it
              is available and what their attitude to disclosure is.
    17
         MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    18
         MS. STEEL:   Having had this, having had the rest of the
    19        questions in this survey drawn to your attention and being
              concerned with promoting good nutrition as you said, would
    20        it concern you enough now to find out about these things
              or does it not worry you?
    21        A.  Well, I think if you look at the report that I made
              and if you also look on page 200, clearly there is an
    22        issue here that is of some concern in the sense that there
              is a proportion of staff, and I think you must remember
    23        that many of these are young men in their late teens or
              early 20's, on the right-hand side you will see that the
    24        consumption of alcohol and those who take exercise zero
              times a week which is on the left-hand side, that is 14
    25        per cent, so there is about 4 per cent who are smoking
              more than 20 cigarettes a day, and again going back to the 
    26        alcohol, 16 per cent are taking 20 units or more.  Some of 
              them, if I recall correctly, took a lot more than 20 units 
    27        per week.  So clearly there is an element in the
              McDonald's staff who really do not take healthy eating or
    28        anything else very seriously at all.
 
    29        I suspect that if you were to look at any cohort like this
              that you might well find the same kind of thing emerge.
    30        So, I think the question is from the point of view
              McDonald's is how far do they see that, how far do they

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