Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 66
1 The females are smaller.
2
3 Q. So how much would the females weigh?
4 A. Roughly about five.
5
6 Q. Do you know what the stunning current is that is used when
7 the chickens are slaughtered?
8 A. In what country?
9
10 Q. In America.
11 A. Yes, I do.
12
13 Q. Can you tell us what that is?
14 A. For our suppliers, they are currently using 12 to 14
15 volts.
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17 Q. 12 to 14 volts. What type of current is that?
18 A. Direct.
19
20 Q. What is the amps?
21 A. O.6.
22
23 Q. Do you know what equipment is used by the poultry slaughter
24 plants?
25 A. They use -- you mean in terms of electrical versus gas
26 or some of the others?
27
28 Q. No. Is it Simmons Engineering?
29 A. I do not know which brand name. There are a number of
30 suppliers of equipment that can provide you with that, but
31 that does not sound familiar for the US.
32
33 MR. MORRIS: When you were talking about the birds, Mr. McDonald
34 birds, I think you said they were "our birds". They do not
35 belong to McDonald's, you do not own them; they are
36 supplied by the suppliers, yes, but you put a lot of energy
37 into working with the supplier, yes, in equipment and in
38 all the methods that are used, yes?
39 A. We do, depending on the country. Those needs will
40 change. We can recommend a supplier for equipment,
41 particular equipment, that we know, we have used it in
42 another country and we have under those conditions will
43 provide, will fulfil our needs. So, we can, yes, in the US
44 that is always left to the supplier decision. If they want
45 to buy it or not, that is up to them.
46
47 Q. I think you said before -- I cannot remember exactly the
48 circumstances -- about Coope Montecillos, for example, you
49 actually -----
50 A. About what?
51
52 Q. About Coope Montecillos, you said something about helping
53 people develop certain kinds of equipment?
54 A. Oh, yes.
55
56 Q. Do you also do that for bird production, actually put some
57 money into in some countries, developing equipment?
58 A. It would depend on the type of equipment. You have to
59 be more specific, but we work with suppliers to -- we used
60 to do that -- let me take it a little bit back. We used to
