Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 68
1 looked at these notes of rap sessions, have you not?
2 A. Yes, sorry.
3
4 Q. To save time, there is a number of references to breaks
5 being missed or people having to take them early?
6 A. I think I noticed six out of seven or something, the
7 PRs and breaks were complained about.
8
9 Q. Were you aware at the time that these complaints were being
10 raised by crew members at rap sessions or in the store
11 generally?
12 A. Yes, it was a general gripe of most people that PRs
13 were not, they were just never on time.
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15 Q. Right. Did people complain about breaks, to your knowledge
16 in rap sessions or in the store?
17 A. I am not sure about breaks. They used to -- you would
18 have the, you know, did not get a long enough break, did
19 not take a break yesterday, I did not get, I did not get
20 paid for it, things like that, but they were only general
21 comments made to me in the crew room and stuff. I did not
22 have anything officially, people going: "I am not getting
23 enough breaks" but people were generally, in my opinion,
24 quite unhappy with the breaks they got.
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26 Q. Right.
27 A. Just because they were all -- they tended to be at
28 early or late times.
29
30 Q. Right.
31
32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Pause a moment.
33 A. Pardon?
34
35 Q. Just pause a moment, please?
36 A. Yes. Yes.
37
38 MS. STEEL: So sorry, just to clarify, they did not actually
39 make a formal complaint but they generally moaned about it?
40 A. They generally, well, yes, they generally moaned about
41 it. I do not see how they -- I do not know what a formal
42 complaint would be.
43
44 Q. I was just trying to understand what you were saying.
45 A. Right, I see. I suppose they could go and see whoever
46 was the shift Manager, the scheduling Manager ---
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48 Q. Right.
49 A. -- Or the Store Manager, but I just think they would
50 have been seen as being trouble makers so they would not,
51 you know, people did not openly complain to the Manager who
52 caused them to have an early or late break. They would
53 complain to other Managers.
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55 Q. Generally, was something done about it when they did
56 complain?
57 A. No, it was just considered, you know, they were
58 gripeing and moaning.
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60 Q. Right.
