Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 63


     
     1        the same, I have looked at the reference I think it is the
     2        same study that you have referred to:
     3
     4        "Willett and others reported findings from the nurses
     5        health study, a prospective study involving more than 85
     6        thousand women showing the intake of trans-isomer fatty
     7        acids was significantly and independently associated with
     8        the incident of CHD."
     9
    10        So far so good?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.  "The association was seen from only (reads to the words)
    14        mainly different trans-isomers from ruminant fats did not
    15        show such an association."
    16
    17        Is that a true report of Willett's findings on that?
    18        A.   It could well be that that is what he found.  I do not
    19        know.  I want to look that the paper again to be absolutely
    20        certain of that, because he has in other cases in terms of
    21        prostate cancer incriminated very specifically animal
    22        products.  I think it is very difficult to separate them
    23        because, you know, if you are -- one of the major uses in
    24        the United States of America of hydrogenated vegetable oils
    25        is, in fact, in the cooking of the chips and burgers,
    26        chickens and that kind of process.  They are then
    27        associated with the trans-isomers which come from the
    28        animal fat.  So I am not quite sure how he makes that
    29        distinction.
    30
    31   Q.   I am not sure you are right?
    32        A.   I may not be right on that, I am quite willing to
    33        admit it.  I would like to have a look at that paper again.
    34
    35   Q.   May be, my Lord, will have to have a look at it again?
    36        A.   The reality is that he does make a very strong point
    37        about the impact of trans fatty acids on the risk of heart
    38        disease.
    39
    40   Q.   I am not in a position to dispute that.  Can we turn over
    41        to the next page of your current statement, please?  I am
    42        going ask you to think again the consequence of the
    43        mathematics in the third paragraph?
    44        A.   Yes.
    45
    46   Q.   Can I understand what, so that I have got it clearly in
    47        mind, what it is you did.  You took the figure of 1.9
    48        million?
    49        A.   Yes.
    50
    51   Q.   Yes?
    52        A.   Yes.
    53
    54   Q.   You divide had that in 7 because you calculate that
    55        McDonald's, the McDonald's meal is going to contribute 7th
    56        degree of the saturated fat; is that right?
    57        A.   That is correct.
    58
    59   Q.   Is that what happened?
    60        A.   Yes.

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