Day 173 - 16 Oct 95 - Page 51
1 get an answer which hedges back on that answer and puts you
2 in a worse position, but you are not going to do better.
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4 MS. STEEL: Were the business trips out of the country to do
5 with the dispute with the union, meeting people like
6 Mr. Copeland or anybody else in connection with that?
7 A. No, not from memory.
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9 Q. You say in this letter, "None of my employees have come to
10 me and expressed a desire to be represented by your union
11 and they have not expressed any dissatisfaction with their
12 wages and conditions". That was a lie, is it not?
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14 MR. RAMPTON: There are two statements there. Are they both
15 lies or are they separate lies?
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let the witness answer. Deal with the whole
18 or parts as you choose, Mr. Mehigan.
19 A. Sorry, may I ask you to repeat the first part of your
20 question?
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22 MS. STEEL: I read the paragraph out and I said "This is a lie,
23 is it not"?
24 A. Which, the entire paragraph?
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26 Q. That they have not -- well, you say what the position is
27 then. You tell us yourself.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Look at the third paragraph on page 969,
30 "None of my employees have come to me and expressed a
31 desire to be represented by your union and they have not
32 expressed any dissatisfaction with their wages and
33 conditions". Ms. Steel is suggesting to you, now we have
34 looked at the memorandum, that that is untrue, in all
35 respects, she says.
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37 MS. STEEL: The first part is misleading at the least, if not an
38 outright lie; you were well aware that crew, that employees
39 were interested in being represented by a union even if
40 they had not expressly stated it to you. That is correct,
41 is it not?
42 A. They have not expressed it to me that they wished to be
43 represented by a union.
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45 Q. But you were well aware they were interested in being
46 involved with a union and union activity and being
47 represented by a union?
48 A. Well, there were some rumblings as indicated earlier
49 on.
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51 Q. The second part of that is a blatant lie, is it not,
52 because Mr. Mosrek, at the very minimum, had expressed
53 dissatisfaction with his wages and there had been other
54 complaints about conditions?
55 A. Yes, he expressed unhappiness with his rate of pay, but
56 he did not represent the entire workforce.
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58 Q. It says, "None of my employees", I would remind you.
59 Is it possible to have a five minute break?
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