Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 51


     
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     2   Q.   I will deal with recycling first.  To what extent do those
     3        cardboards that are used by McDonald's contain any recycled
     4        content?
     5        A.  Today?
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     7   Q.   Yes, today.
     8        A.  Substantially.  I would say it varies by supplier but
     9        I think the average today is around 59 per cent of all
    10        corrugated board is recycled.  Some suppliers will be much
    11        higher than that, some would be lower, but the average is
    12        around 57 to 59.
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    14   Q.   Are there any other kinds, major kinds -- I do not want
    15        little bit and pieces -- of paper packaging which is used,
    16        as it were, outside the inside of the restaurant, whether
    17        in the kitchen or in the transport or what, other than
    18        corrugated cardboard?
    19        A. Are there any other major kinds of packaging?
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    21   Q.   Yes, major kinds of paper packaging.
    22        A.  Paper packaging?
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    24   Q.   Yes, I want to deal with paper first and then I will come
    25        on to packaging generally.
    26        A.  In some cases there is a wrapped paper sleeve as
    27        against a corrugated cardboard.
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    29   Q.   Does that have any recycled content?
    30        A.  It would be certainly in excess of 50 per cent recycled
    31        content.
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    33   Q.   Since when, roughly speaking, again has McDonald's been
    34        using recycled content in its cardboard and paper wrapping
    35        packaging for transport and storage?
    36        A.  The story is very similar to packaging, the inner
    37        packaging itself.  It varies by a supplier.  A major
    38        supplier like McCane's, for example, has ever since I have
    39        been involved with them, 16 years, they have always had a
    40        percentage of recycled material in their outer packaging.
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    42   Q.   Can I ask you a bit more about that?  You mean that the
    43        processed potato which will end up as a french fry on the
    44        customer's, not plate, on the customer's table, or in his
    45        paper bag, is packed by McCane?
    46        A.  Yes.
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    48   Q.   Is that right?
    49        A.  It goes into an inner polythene bag and the inner
    50        polythene bags go into an outer corrugated case. 
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    52   Q.   What you are saying is that the outer corrugated case 
    53        supplied with the fries by McCane has, so far as you are
    54        aware since you have been working for McDonald's, always
    55        contained a recycled portion?
    56        A.  That is correct.
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    58   Q.   What sort of volume of cardboard packaging are we talking
    59        about for your french fries?  Let me ask you it perhaps
    60        another way:  Are french fries a popular item in your

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