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1 asked you a question about the other forest, the Devon one;
2 I think that would be woodland defined by Mr. Mallinson's
3 standard?
4 A. It would be, yes.
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6 Q. Very well. It may not matter. If you basically agree with
7 Mr. Mallinson's terms, or agree with the way he used the
8 terms or in general use ----?
9 A. That is OK by me.
10
11 Q. - among the experts, then if you could follow the same
12 regime, as it were, it would help.
13 A. I will try to.
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15 MR. MORRIS: I think the distinction between natural as woodland
16 and plantation as forest probably is not very helpful in
17 terms of something we compared to Mr. Mallinson's evidence,
18 because I think we have used the terms "natural forest" or
19 "plantation forest". So, it might be helpful if we --
20 would it be fair to say that something that is small
21 isolated woods could be called "woodland" but something
22 that is larger becomes a "forest"?
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us see how we go.
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26 MR. MORRIS: So, you have been visiting UK forests; you were
27 explaining what you do when you visit?
28 A. Yes. Normally I will walk around the boundary; then
29 I will try to take a straightest line as I can right
30 through the middle of the woodland or the forest to try to
31 see what is there. I take a straight line so I am not
32 using the pathways that are in the woodland or forest.
33 I think that gives me a better idea what is happening if
34 I do a straight line right through the middle and out the
35 other side.
36
37 Q. What do you look for?
38 A. I will be looking for what management has been done.
39 The first thing I would look for is probably, well,
40 obviously whether it is a broad leaf or coniferous forest
41 or woodland. If it is a coniferous forest, is it on
42 agricultural land or is it on land that was previously
43 broad leaf woodland? I am looking for the management
44 regime there. I am looking to see how much the management
45 regime has affected the biodiversity or is making
46 allowances for the biodiversity. I am looking at the
47 quality of the timber from a commercial point of view.
48 I am also looking for things like timber and fallen timber,
49 dead timber, rotting timber, which is very important for a
50 lot of fungi, and vertebrates, things like that.
51
52 Q. I want to move on. We will come back to the UK when we
53 deal with that. I want to move through the statement.
54 I am going to skate through most of it, if you are happy
55 with that, Mr. Hopkins. If I miss anything out that you
56 want to highlight on a particular page but it is all taken
57 as evidence as it is.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I am most interested in -- I say "most
60 interested in" -- is where and how what Mr. Hopkins can say
