Day 207 - 23 Jan 96 - Page 57
1 go on to somebody else.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Unless you are keen to start Mr. Cox, even if
4 there is only ten minutes left, Mr. Rampton?
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6 MR. RAMPTON: No, I think it much better not, because I shall
7 have some re-examination which will involve an examination
8 of documents, and that always take a bit of time.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There is no point in Mr. Cox sitting around
11 for just five minutes at the end of the day, anyway, is
12 there?
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14 MR. RAMPTON: No.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If he wants to go, fair enough.
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18 MS. STEEL: (To the witness) They are quite serious complaints,
19 are they not, that accident books do not get filled in
20 (sic); they are not used unless you pressurise or you make
21 a big fuss about it?
22 A. If there are worrying complaints, yes.
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24 Q. Do you remember any investigation into those complaints at
25 the time they were made?
26 A. No. As I say, the answer I have given previously is
27 that the Store Manager would have formulated an action plan
28 and then dealt with it from there.
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30 Q. So there were action plans on all sorts of things as a
31 result of the rap session, but you cannot remember what any
32 of them said or ---
33 A. No.
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35 Q. -- anything that was carried out as a result?
36 A. No.
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38 Q. You said you would like to see larger numbers at rap
39 sessions. What efforts are actually made to get crew to
40 attend?
41 A. People from on the shift would attend, and a poster
42 would be put up in the crew room to notify that there was a
43 rap session about to happen.
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45 Q. Are you aware of complaints in the rap session notes that
46 the posters were not going up until shortly before the rap
47 sessions took place?
48 A. I think there was a complaint I have seen, that I have
49 seen within rap sessions, saying that -- I cannot remember
50 which one it was -- that there was not notice.
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52 Q. Was that correct, that not much notice was given of the rap
53 sessions?
54 A. I cannot remember the exact length of notice and how
55 they were organised. Basically, it depends on who would do
56 the rap session, as I understand it, and how they were
57 arranged with that individual.
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59 Q. I have made a note of this. There were 15 people attending
60 the first rap session; nine, the second; then six, eight,
