Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 54
1 your right to join a union".
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3 MR. MORRIS: It is just that Sabina said: "He said it was up to
4 us to decide whether wanted a union".
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6 THE WITNESS: Right.
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8 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Entirely ---
9 A. He was not.
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11 Q. -- the crew's decision?
12 A. It was our choice.
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14 Q. Your choice. When Mr. Ballantyne petitioned the Labour
15 Court that people under 18 should not have a right to join
16 a union, did you feel betrayed, misinformed and lied to by
17 Mr. Ballantyne when you found out about it?
18 A. I was not under 18 so it really did not bother me at
19 all.
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21 Q. It did not bother that other people who had previously said
22 at a meeting of all the staff that it was their choice to
23 join a union ---
24 A. That is his right to say -----
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26 Q. -- had been lied to and misinformed?
27 A. That is his right to say how he feels. I cannot say
28 why he did that or why he did not do it. I do not know why
29 he said it, and I do not know how everybody else feels
30 about it.
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32 Q. Do you have any views about it?
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you know what the law is in Canada or in
35 Ontario?
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37 MR. MORRIS: I do not know. I know that that was not resolved
38 at that hearing, because of the agreement to take a vote.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I mean, I do not know either.
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42 MR. MORRIS: I am sure if it had been -----
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There are some pretty restrictive practices
45 in Canada. You are not supposed to go into a bar and buy a
46 beer -- or you were not some years ago -- until you were
47 21; so there is a trade in forged driving licences, as a
48 result. I am not going to assume that things are the same
49 in Orangeville, Ontario, as they are here in London.
50 I just do not know. I have assumed that you can join a
51 union under 18, because otherwise I would have thought that
52 ---
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54 MR. MORRIS: It would have been a clear law -----
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- it would just say clearly that they cannot
57 join because they are under 18; it would not be a matter of
58 argument. I just raise it in case there is any doubt about
59 it at the end of the day.
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