Day 131 - 06 Jun 95 - Page 74


     
     1        A.  I do not claim to be -- I am, Mr. Morris.
     2
     3   Q.   You claim to be, that is your evidence; it does not mean
     4        that I agree with it.  In fact, I specifically stated that
     5        I do not agree with it by asking the questions.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are actually saying that he is not an
     8        expert, are you?  That is what you are putting to him?
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  No, not independent.  I recognise your expertise
    11        but not your independence.
    12
    13   MR. RAMPTON:  I think the accusation, is my Lord, that the
    14        evidence is tainted or corrupt ---
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  -- because Mr. Purslow takes some small part of
    19        his fee income from McDonald's.
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  If you say that it is no good
    22        getting people to work faster on a particular job because
    23        there is a set time -- let us go to the observation check
    24        list at 57 in that pink XIII.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Tab 57?
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  57-O.
    29        A.  I am sorry, I am lost.
    30
    31   Q.   It is pink XIII.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  57 and then there are a number of letters,
    34        57-0.
    35        A.  Thank you, my Lord.  Thank you.  Observation check
    36        list, yes.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  If we go to page 8, for example?
    39        A.  This is check list 8 on the top right-hand corner?
    40        This is hash browns and hot cakes; is that right?
    41
    42   Q.   Yes.  There is nothing in there about hustle as far as
    43        I could find.  Why is that, if it is something that runs
    44        through the Company and it is about co-ordination and care
    45        and frequency, and all that kind of stuff, it does not
    46        mention it there?
    47        A.  I am sorry, I do not understand your point.  Are you
    48        saying that hustle should be included on this?
    49
    50   Q.   This is the reality of what McDonald's are calling on their 
    51        workers to do, their actual job specifications, saying they 
    52        are making hash browns and hot cakes which, I believe, are 
    53        in deep oil; is that correct?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   That is something that maybe would concern you that ---
    57        A.  Yes ---
    58
    59   Q.   -- may get some burns?
    60        A.  -- they are placed into a basket and they are loaded

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