Day 146 - 03 Jul 95 - Page 19


     
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     2        There is no mention in the statement, the witness
     3        statement, of the allegation that the pithing rod itself
     4        constitutes a contamination hazard because it goes through
     5        the head and into the body of the beast.  Mr. Bone deals
     6        with that (as one would expect) by saying:  Well, no, it
     7        does not; it goes down the spinal cord so it never touches
     8        the muscle".
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    10        Paragraph 23, again an unnoticed allegation in Ms. Hovi's
    11        statement, that the meat inspectors and the OVS do not have
    12        access or easy access to sterilizers and hand basins.
    13        Easily enough dealt with if one knows that it is going to
    14        be made.
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    16        Then, my Lord, in paragraph 24, the confusion of Ms. Hovi
    17        by the creation of an additional one or two people between
    18        those who stun, shackle, pith, hoist, stick the animal.  In
    19        fact, they are all the same person.  Once again, if one had
    20        known Ms. Hovi was subject to that kind of confusion and
    21        made that kind of an error, one would have been able to
    22        deal with it.
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    24   MR. MORRIS:  Can we make a strong objection to the way
    25        Mr. Rampton is conducting this application by constant
    26        reference to the inadequacy of our witness?  I just think
    27        it is completely unacceptable.
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    29   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I shall continue in a similar vein.
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We are having an argument about it.  I have
    32        seen nothing offensive in the way Mr. Rampton is doing it.
    33        You will have your opportunity to answer if, in fact, you
    34        do want to oppose Mr. Bone being called to give evidence.
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    36   MS. STEEL:  The thing is that Mr. Rampton keeps saying that she
    37        is confused.  The point is we have had her evidence.  We
    38        have not had any evidence from Mr. Bone.  As Mr. Rampton
    39        keeps saying, what someone says in a statement is not
    40        evidence.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We really do not have to worry about that.
    43        We are in chambers.  You must trust me to distinguish what
    44        is argument and what may be evidence in due course.
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    46   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I have, for perfectly good reasons of
    47        saving time, obviously telescoped what I am saying.  If the
    48        Defendants wish me to say every single time that if this is
    49        a confusion and we had had notice of it Mr. Bone would
    50        expose it I will, but, frankly, it is a waste of time. 
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    52        My Lord, page 13, paragraph 25, at the top; that again is a 
    53        completely new allegation about the lack of sterilization
    54        for hide puller chains.  It is, of course, a facet of a
    55        general proposition there is no proper separation between
    56        the dirty and clean, but if one is a Jarrett person and one
    57        knows that all the high puller chains are sterilized, one
    58        is not going to think to oneself one is not capable -- at
    59        least I am not -- of that kind of imaginative exercise,
    60        "Oh, well, she might be saying that the high puller chains

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