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1 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know whether it is in a different
2 format. That I do not know. What I do know it is a
3 distinction of substance, because the one that he was shown
4 in the witness box was the amended Veggies leaflet.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. But my impression was that he was
7 saying, particularly when he looked at the back, which has
8 the Veggies Veggies striking page, that he had never seen a
9 leaflet like that before, never seen that leaflet before.
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11 MR. RAMPTON: That may very well be true, because I have no
12 idea.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is because I have got to decide about
15 that, that -----
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17 MR. RAMPTON: What I do not know is what format the original
18 Veggies leaflet was in.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It was always in that -- unless I disbelieve
21 Mr. Smith, and on that point it seems I have no reason to
22 -- it was always eight page with the Veggies Veggies back
23 page and the additional page.
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25 MR. RAMPTON: What I do not remember -- and, again, it is my
26 fault for not remembering -- is whether the evidence was
27 that it was folded in a completely different way from the
28 London Greenpeace leaflet. (Pause)
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30 My Lord, I can tell your Lordship this: there is a pink
31 file called "words complained of" ---
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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35 MR. RAMPTON: -- and in that file are collected the documents
36 which Barlow's had issued by people against whom the
37 complaints about McDonald's have been made. Number 6 in
38 that file is a Veggies leaflet. I do not say it is the
39 Veggies leaflet. It looks like that. It is a single
40 sheet.
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42 MS. STEEL: That is not the fact sheet. That is a leaflet that
43 they put out about the case.
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45 MR. RAMPTON: Ms. Steel has had her chance to give evidence.
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47 MS. STEEL: All right, then. I will not try and be helpful
48 then.
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50 MR. RAMPTON: What I do not believe there is in this file -- and
51 it may be an oversight, I do not know; it may, however,
52 lead to a negative inference -- what there is not in this
53 file is a copy of what Ms. Steel would have us believe is
54 the Veggies fact sheet.
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I had better look at that, I think.
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58 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship had better look at it, I agree.
59 Beyond that, I am afraid I am not able to help. In any
60 event -----
