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     1        that or the next thing, whether it is food or other
     2        commodities.  So, I think it is a real force if a company
     3        that size is going to actually use it as an example of the
     4        way it can benefit sales.
     5
     6   MS. STEEL:   Just one final thing on this paper which might be
     7        relevant is on page 377, the section on nutrient intake at
     8        the bottom of that page, about where children were
     9        deriving their energy.  You have mentioned some of it but
    10        that is the summary?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   Do you want to say anything about that?
    14        A.  Actually, I have to be perfectly frank and I thought
    15         -- I was expecting higher figures than actually worked
    16        out in practice.  I think the concern that we had was more
    17        in relation to the nutrient and vitamin intake which we
    18        were -- we were also particularly concerned that the girls
    19        were worse off than the boys, because these were, so far
    20        as we were concerned, these children are going to be the
    21        mothers in a fairly short space of time.
    22
    23   Q.   The figures that are given in terms of amount of energy
    24        obtained from fat and saturated fat, they are above the
    25        government's recommended dietary guidelines?
    26        A.  Yes, they are not spectacular.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When you say you were expecting figures
    29        higher than you found -- in what respect?
    30        A.  Well, I would have thought their total fat intake
    31        might have been closer to 40 per cent on inspection of
    32        some of the data from what I knew, but it turned out that
    33        it was 35 per cent, so that is -----
    34
    35   Q.   Can you say, quite shortly, what kind of dietary data it
    36        was which led you to expect 40 per cent?
    37        A.  Well, I am actually giving you a wrong steer here
    38        because, in fact, the way the dieticians have expressed
    39        this information is to really talk about how many were
    40        above a certain level.  In other words, it really says
    41        that 63 per cent of the children were above 35 per cent of
    42        the energy, and I am not sure that I have answered your
    43        question.
    44
    45   Q.   No.  What I was asking is, what was the data or what kind
    46        of data was it which made you expect 40 per cent?
    47        A.  General population data, that the population as a
    48        whole is closer to 40 per cent, and so, therefore, you
    49        would expect, if that is the sort of average, that more
    50        than 50 per cent of the intakes would be above 40 per 
    51        cent.  That was the sort of data that made me anticipate 
    52        we would have, but it may be partly due to the way the 
    53        dieticians expressed this information.
    54
    55   Q.   Does that mean the school children were really doing
    56        better than the population as a whole?
    57        A.  In terms of the total fat intake, yes.
    58
    59   Q.   Looking at that column, nearly two-thirds of the children
    60        were just about on the recommendation ---

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