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     1        A.  And was not provided with a meal on duty.
     2
     3   Q.   Yes.  Well, I am assuming that he was.
     4        A.  Fine, OK.  I just wanted to point that out.
     5
     6   Q.   The only other matter is this:  you were going to try to
     7        recall overnight whether you were involved in the
     8        consultation.
     9        A.  Yes, I was, according to the recollection of my
    10        colleague who was also a member of the council at that
    11        time.  But I have not been able to find my minutes of the
    12        meeting to confirm -- the meetings -- to confirm my
    13        attendance, but I was certainly a member at that time,
    14        according to my colleague's recollection.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, very well.  Thank you.
    17
    18                 Examination by the Defendants, continued
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  Actually, the first question you asked was one of
    21        the ones I was going to ask.  I think you put it a bit more
    22        clearly.
    23
    24        The other question I wanted to ask, Mr. Pearson, we have
    25        seen that there is a change between 1986 and 1987 in the
    26        form of the Wages Council order.  Do you know whether or
    27        not 1985 would have been similar to the 1986 in terms of
    28        the system, or was it completely different?
    29        A.  No.  The systems were identical.  The only changes,
    30        I think, in those two years were the pay figures, the
    31        hourly rates.
    32
    33   Q.   Right.  In terms of -- if I remember where the part is,
    34        about adding one-eighth and one-half, would those parts
    35        have been the same?
    36        A.  Well, to be honest, the best way to answer this is to
    37        look at the actual order for 1985.  So, if you rely on my
    38        recollection, my recollection is that the fundamentals, the
    39        calculation ratios, time and a quarter, time and an eighth,
    40        time and a half, the spread over principle and so forth,
    41        the fundamentals did not change, in my recollection; only
    42        the hourly rates that were attached to those figures.
    43
    44   Q.   OK.  Thank you.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Just on this vexed subject, can you get Defence
    47        document number 117 out?  I do not know actually what
    48        colour that is.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  It is kingfisher blue. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is the higher row of blues. 
    53
    54   MS. STEEL:  I think it is bundle IV.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is divider 17.  It is, in fact, 117, but
    57        the divider has a "17" on it.
    58        A.  Divider 17.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  I hope I have the right document.

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