Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 38


     
     1        40% of energy towards the 20-30%.
     2
     3        Now, that is in 1990?
     4        A.   Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   You, I take it, would disagree with so -- what shall I
     7        say -- a cautious approach?
     8        A.  Not entirely, Mr. Rampton.  I think I will qualify
     9        that.  I do not know quite where the final recommendations
    10        are in this report, because what they are referring to is
    11        table 2, see page 67.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is table 11?
    14        A.   Table 11, is it?
    15
    16   Q.   But do refer back to it if you want.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  Please do.
    19        A.  And my guess is that table 11 will refer to many
    20        different types of cancer, some of which are not related to
    21        dietary fats.
    22
    23   Q.   I have not fallen into that trap.  I am going to show you
    24        something else in a minute.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  Can the witness look at that?
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just wait.  We can go back to it again.
    29
    30   MR. RAMPTON:  So far as that is concerned, you are absolutely
    31        right, it is talking about cancer overall, and if you look
    32        at 67 there is no doubt that colon and breast cancer are
    33        the two which have been most heavily implicated, if I may
    34        use those words?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   In relation to diet?
    38        A.  Yes.
    39
    40   Q.   Although, in fact, prostate gets two plus in the table and
    41        breast cancer only gets one?
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Breast cancer gets a body weight plus as well.
    44
    45   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, I can read, thank you, Mr. Morris.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  Well, Mr. --
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Morris, please just -- we had this
    50        argument before.  It may be a tiresome way of doing it, but
    51        if you want to make the point you have got to come back to
    52        it in re-examination, which is what you did.
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  But Mr. Rampton is not allowed to put selective
    55        inaccurate points.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let Mr. Rampton put what he wants to and then
    58        you put what you want in re-examination.
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  So, at any rate, when one is talking about breast

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