Day 101 - 10 Mar 95 - Page 69


     
     1        yesterday.  He seemed, at any rate for some of the time, to
     2        assume that a quality control check was the same thing as a
     3        specification; do you remember that exchange?
     4        A.  Yes, several times.
     5
     6   Q.   Do not volunteer unless you think I asked the wrong
     7        question, in which case please give an answer which
     8        corrects what I have asked you.  But can I ask you to look
     9        at, for example, quality control check No. 2, "Meat
    10        temperature on arrival"?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   You told us this morning, having thought about the matter
    14        and looked at your records, that, in fact, though they try
    15        to keep to four degrees they will, if they have to, go up
    16        to seven; is that right?
    17        A.  Seven is an absolute limit, yes.
    18
    19   Q.   Maximum.  Using Mr. Morris' somewhat bureaucratic approach,
    20        if something is between four and seven is it acceptable for
    21        your use?
    22        A.  If the further checks have been done on it and it is
    23        deemed acceptable, yes; a vigilant inspection would be
    24        carried out.
    25
    26   Q.   Assuming it passes its vital biological assays at both
    27        arrival and departure and in other respects it is the right
    28        temperature?
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   Q.   The fact that something happened to be 5.2 or even six
    32        degrees would not matter; is that right?
    33        A.  It would make very little difference to the quality of
    34        the meat.
    35
    36   Q.   Then look at check No. 6?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.   They, as I recall -- and I hope we do not have to look at
    40        it again -- those, I recall, impose on themselves -- your
    41        specification for McKey meat is 10 million, is it not?
    42        A.  That is correct.
    43
    44   Q.   They impose on themselves, as I think we have seen, a
    45        guideline of 5,000,000?
    46        A.  That is correct.
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  That is not true.  That is just not true.  Every
    49        single bit of evidence from Mr. Walker said it was 10
    50        million. 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  We will just have to look at the document.  Can 
    53        you turn to tab 2?
    54
    55   MR. MORRIS:  It is not a document.  It is end of
    56        Mr. Walker's ----
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At the end of the day I will have to decide
    59        what is right.  That is the point.
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