Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 64


     
     1        ask you about that.  Then you write this:  "Government
     2        figures show a tragic tendency" (one can argue about
     3        tragedy until the cows come and I do not ask you about) "a
     4        tendency for younger eaters to be eating large quantities
     5        of fastfood such as burgers and french fries".  You give
     6        as the authority for that proposition the Department of
     7        Health or the COMA publication we looked at earlier today,
     8        do you not?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   What puzzles me about that statement of yours is this,
    12        Dr. Lobstein.  I have looked at it quite carefully now,
    13        though I have not had more than a few hours to do so.
    14        I have also now had an opportunity of looking at the
    15        tables at the back of it.  I cannot find in this document
    16        any support for the statement that there is a tragic
    17        tendency or a tendency for younger eaters to be eating
    18        large quantities of burgers.  I find plenty of reference
    19        to what the Department in this country calls "chips", but
    20        I cannot find where you support the statement about
    21        burgers.  Do you have a copy of the whole thing?
    22        A.  I do not know if any of the tables that refer to
    23        foods.  Burgers come in after sausages and other offals.
    24
    25   Q.   Tables 50 and 56 -- I do not know if your Lordship has
    26        that?
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, I have not, but carry on now and I would
    29        like a photocopy, so when I come back to the transcript I
    30        can take the point.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  Tables 50 and 56.  50 is food consumed by boys
    33        aged 14, 15 years on page 179, running through to page
    34        185, does it not?  Table 56, which is food consumed by
    35        girls of the same age groups, starts on page 217 and runs
    36        through to page 223.  Right?
    37        A.  Yes.
    38
    39   Q.   You will see -- let us go back to the beginning of table
    40        50 on page 179 -- there are under the main heading "type
    41        of lunch" we find sub-columns:  "Paid school meal, free
    42        school meal, paid school meal, free school meal, home,
    43        packed lunch, home, cafe"?
    44        A.  We do.
    45
    46   Q.   If you turn back in the text, please, to page 34,
    47        paragraph 9.5.6, this is dietary pattern for boys of the
    48        14/15 age group. "Type of lunch consumed during the school
    49        week did not markedly influence dietary patterns, table
    50        50.  As with the younger children, the older boys who took 
    51        a packed lunch to school had the highest consumption of 
    52        bread, biscuits, crisps, other vegetables and apples. 
    53        There were 68 older boys who ate out of school at cafes,
    54        take-away and fast food outlets.  These boys were eating a
    55        self-selected meal at weekday lunch times, and they ate
    56        the most eggs, other meat products, chocolate and colas."
    57        There is no reference to burgers there in that paragraph,
    58        is there?
    59        A.  Not for the boys, only for the girls.
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