Day 158 - 19 Jul 95 - Page 24
1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I mean, I am not saying you are wrong but
2 where do we get that from?
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4 MR. MORRIS: That is my belief.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there anything in Mr. Shane's statement
7 you want to direct me to? I remember that he had something
8 to say about US beef.
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10 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But did he have something to say about
13 Brazilian rain forest?
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15 MR. MORRIS: I will check that. If I just finish referring to
16 this particular paragraph: "... 244 per cent between 1975
17 and 1978 of the Territory of Rondonia, 193 per cent in the
18 state of Goias", which McDonald's admits having received,
19 well, they admit that their most northern-most suppliers
20 are based in that State, "and 160 per cent in the state of
21 Para", which is another matter.
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23 Then it says underneath that: "Additional information
24 pertaining to cattle ranching and related activities in the
25 tropical forest areas of Latin America is required in order
26 to more completely assess the problem of tropical
27 deforestation". Therefore, the implication here is that we
28 are talking about tropical forest which, as far as
29 I understand it, is rain forest.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: In fact, we cannot see or I cannot see the
32 tropics on the coloured map. But you are assuming, and for
33 all I know you may be right, but I do not know at the
34 moment that tropical forest is synonymous with rain forest.
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36 MR. MORRIS: Yes ----
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I mean, if one start from the fact it means
39 forest in the tropics, is all forest in the tropics
40 rain forest?
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42 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord, no, it is not. My Lord, it is now
43 Costa Rica and there can be no question ------
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am asking Mr. Morris. I do not know. If
46 all the lined areas on the coloured map are in the
47 tropics ---
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49 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I can tell your Lordship that -----
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- dense forest and sparse forest is in the
52 tropics as well.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, that is absolutely right. In fact, my Lord,
55 the tropic of Capricorn which is the southerly of the two
56 tropics runs slap bang through the middle of Sao Paolo.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is the sort of line and comes out at
59 Salto Augusto on the other side. That is the line addition
60 to the ---
