Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 16


     
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     2   Q.   In terms of talking about the past history of that
     3        particular campaign?
     4        A.   Sorry?  I still do not get the question, sorry.
     5
     6   Q.   Well, rather than when a subject matter was brought up on
     7        the agenda as, say, something that had to be done or
     8        organised, or something like that?
     9        A.   Right.
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    11   Q.   People would talk about things that had happened in the
    12        past?
    13        A.   No, not necessarily.  The people that attended, from
    14        my recollection, were quite familiar with what was going
    15        on.
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    17   Q.   So, are you saying you never heard anyone talking about
    18        what had gone on in the past?
    19        A.  They may have done, yes.
    20
    21   Q.   Right.  So you do not remember?
    22        A.   No, sir.
    23
    24   Q.   If you have got your notes, please, and you have got page 7
    25        of your notes.
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    27   MR. RAMPTON:  It is not that volume.  It is the funny blue one.
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    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it is the blue one.  It is on the left,
    30        on the top.  The bright blue one at the far end with a
    31        white label.  (Same handed).
    32        A.  Sorry, page?
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:  Page 7, please.
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    36   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, that is page 60, at the bottom 55.
    37
    38   THE WITNESS:   Thank you.
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:  I cannot really say I have got 55 at the bottom.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, but since this is a complete bundle ----
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    44   THE WITNESS:   Yes.
    45
    46   MR. STEEL:  The page numbers are at the top.  It is page 7.  It
    47        is the meeting of the -----
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    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   If you give the date, then we can find what
    50        it is.  But, for the transcript, we had better have the 
    51        bundle pages as well.  If you cannot give them, then 
    52        someone will speak it out when we have got to the right 
    53        page.  So, that is page 60.
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    55   MS. STEEL:  It is 18th January, 1990.
    56        A.   Yes, I have that.
    57
    58   Q.   These were your notes which were made after you had left
    59        the meeting, presumably, because it says 22.25 hours?
    60        A.  That is correct, yes.

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