Day 096 - 03 Mar 95 - Page 65


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You said there would be 4 per cent difference
     3        between them?
     4        A.  Yes.
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     6   Q.   So I have assumed if the outdoor are 100 per cent then it
     7        is 95 or 96 per cent of that inside?
     8        A.  Yes,.
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    10   MR. RAMPTON:  A question about the new equipment that you
    11        mentioned which measures he impedance in the pig's head.
    12        Can you explain exactly how it works?  You explained that
    13        in some way it is associated with the current which is
    14        delivered or efficiency of the tongs?
    15        A.  I have brought an exact description of it from the Meat
    16        and Livestock Commission.
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    18   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, might he refer to that?
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    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is it?
    21        A.  It is the fail safe monitor, sir, I mentioned before.
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that what you are asking about?
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    25   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  I wanted to know exactly how it worked as I
    26        do not know.
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    28   THE WITNESS:  I will try to explain if you wish.
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    30   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you can take it quite shortly.
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    34   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, there is no need to be too technical about
    35        it.
    36        A.  When the tongs are applied to the pig there is a
    37        measuring system that goes across the pig's head to see
    38        what the resistance is.  If the resistance is too high the
    39        tongs will not operate and the pig will not be stunned.
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    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Does that give the pig any sensation?
    42        A.  No, none whatsoever none whatsoever, other than the
    43        feel of the tongs.
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    45   MR. RAMPTON:  What happens next?
    46        A.  Then that throws out the machinery.
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    48   Q.   That is automatic?
    49        A.  Yes, that is totally automatic.  That is recorded as a
    50        non-stun, but it also records all successful stuns as well. 
    51          So, if there is a non-stun one then has to adjust the 
    52        equipment accordingly. 
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    54   Q.   To raise the amount of current for that particular pig?
    55        A.  Yes, correct.
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    57   Q.   I understand.  When you went to America, how recently was
    58        that?  You did say but I cannot remember.
    59        A.  Last May.
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