Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 55


     
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     2   Q.   But that happens?
     3        A.  Where?
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     5   Q.   In the United States.
     6        A.  In the open?
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     8   Q.   On the open range.
     9        A.  Yes, of course, it could happen.
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    11   Q.   It does happen?
    12        A.  It does happen.  That is not to say -- does it happen?
    13        Yes, there are animals that get lost, that get sick and
    14        untreated, yes.  Anywhere in the world it can happen.
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    16   Q.   After several months on the range they are transported to
    17        feed lots where they are fattened on grain which you have
    18        agreed with.
    19        A.  Was that a question?
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    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is what we have understood the position to
    22        be.
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    24   MS. STEEL:   Is it right that in a typical feed lot tens of
    25        thousands of animals are crowded in together into areas
    26        that are often muddy, fly infested and manure filled?
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us break it down.  What about crowded
    29        first of all?
    30        A.  Crowding, they are concentrated, so what changes is
    31        that instead of it being an extensive production, they are
    32        now under an intensive production.  They are in pens.  It
    33        is intensive.  Your definition of "crowded", I do not know
    34        what you mean by that.  They are more animals per ----
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    36   Q.   I think probably "crowded" you have given some answers to
    37        anyway.  You were not suggesting that tens of thousands of
    38        animals were in ----
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    40   MS. STEEL:  One pen.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  --- one feed lot?
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    44   MS. STEEL: No.
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are just looking over ----
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    48   MS. STEEL:  Yes, in one feed lot but, no, not in one pen.
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    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us deal with that first of all.  Can you 
    51        have so many pens together that you end up with tens of 
    52        thousands of cattle in one feed lot? 
    53        A.  That is correct, you can.
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    55   MS. STEEL:   There are about 42,000 feed lots in 13 States, is
    56        that right?
    57        A.  I do not have the exact numbers.
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    59   Q.   Would that sound about right?
    60        A.  No.

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