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     1        A.  -- the UK and Ireland.  In the rest of Europe, several
     2        countries in February 1992 switched from zero per cent
     3        recycled to 100 per cent recycled, and then a large group
     4        switched at that time and later on individual countries
     5        switched to the 100 per cent as well.
     6
     7   Q.   Have they had problems with the 100 per cent?  Have they
     8        continued with the 100 per cent?
     9        A.  They have all continued, once they had the
    10        100 per cent, they have all continued using the
    11        100 per cent.  There is a difference between the two
    12        suppliers, as I indicated earlier.  The supplier that is
    13        responsible for the content is a Continental supplier,
    14        Schisler, and they use mostly post-industrial material
    15        which is of a slightly higher quality than post-consumer --
    16        no, sorry, I should say of a slightly more consistent
    17        quality why it is possible or which enables them to go
    18        through to a 100 per cent recycled material.
    19
    20   Q.   So prior to February 1992 the other countries were not
    21        using recycled paper in their bags?
    22        A.  In their carry-out bags, that is correct.
    23
    24   Q.   In this country and Ireland has the situation remained
    25        consistent with the 50 to 80 per cent or has that changed?
    26        A.  After they had changed to 80 per cent, they have
    27        remained at 80 per cent.  As I said, this 80 per cent
    28        should be considered as to be a minimum specification.  It
    29        can be anywhere up to 100 per cent but we guarantee 80.
    30        They have -- I have been recently with them in contact and
    31        they are now that far that they expect that by March of
    32        next year we can go to 100 per cent of recycled material.
    33
    34   Q.   We saw one of the charts that some of the bags that were 60
    35        per cent and some of them were 80 per cent?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   What I am trying to get at is whether after 1991 all the
    39        bags were 80 per cent or whether the situation remained?
    40        A.  No.
    41
    42   Q.   They were all 80 per cent?
    43        A.  By the end of 1991 all of them were 80 per cent and we
    44        have not used the 60 per cent bags since.
    45
    46   Q.   What is the situation with napkin?
    47        A.  Napkin has been recycled since January of 1991 which is
    48        basically before my starting, so I could not tell you
    49        really what it was exactly before that.
    50 
    51   Q.   You do not know what the position was before that? 
    52        A.  No. 
    53
    54   Q.   But it was in January 1991 that the change was made?
    55        A.  Let me check the notes.  I made a note on that briefly.
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  We have no objection to him looking at any notes.
    58        A.  Sorry?
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look at your note, if you wish, Mr. Van Erp.

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