Day 184 - 06 Nov 95 - Page 53


     
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     2        Apart from the ones we have mentioned, were there any other
     3        cons which you believed at that time could occur as a
     4        result of having a union branch at the store, apart from
     5        the ones we have mentioned, such as losing paid breaks or
     6        half price food?  I cannot think of -- is there any other?
     7        A.  Are you talking about benefits we could lose at
     8        McDonald's?
     9
    10   Q.   The cons.
    11        A.  The cons of having a union?
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What does that mean?
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know -----
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The against or the deceits -- because it
    18        could mean either, could it not?
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  The things that might get worse because of -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Factors against?
    23        A.  The only things -----
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  Things that would get worse -----
    26        A.  We never said things would get worse.  We just said
    27        that, you know, some things you might not be aware of is
    28        that you have to negotiate.  They said, you know, it does
    29        not happen often, but people with unions, they go on
    30        strike; and we did not say McDonald's is definitely going
    31        to go on strike; we said it could happen, and that like --
    32        I cannot remember any more.  I mean, we were just letting
    33        them know.
    34
    35   Q.   Jodie Morris was one of the intervenors, was she not?
    36        A.  She wrote a letter.
    37
    38   Q.   She wrote a letter, and her parents were involved in
    39        advising her to pull out of the union, were they not?
    40        A.  Yes, as far as I know, yes.  I mean, they tried to help
    41        us out, and Mr. Morris went to the first day of court, from
    42        what I understand, in Toronto.  Then he tried to inform the
    43        other parents about what was going on.
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    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Shall we take the five minute break there,
    46        Mr. Morris?
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  Can I deal with one thing in the letter from
    49        Jodie Morris?  The only problem is, I do not know what page
    50        number it is, because they are in a different order from 
    51        what has been given to the court. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think it is fairly near the top.
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    55   MR. MORRIS:  It is a typewritten one.
    56
    57   THE WITNESS:   In the pink, it is 1705.  In the pink book, it is
    58        1705.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is helpful.

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