Day 077 - 25 Jan 95 - Page 66


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I would respectfully not wholly agree
     2        with your Lordship's definition of the issues.  In my
     3        respectful submission, it is the Defendants' case that
     4        there were four consignments of beef amounting roughly to
     5        80 tonnes for a period between 1983 and 1984.  It is the
     6        Defendants' suspicion, or allegation I should say, that
     7        that beef might have come from rainforest areas of Brazil.
     8        It is not the Defendants' case, since they have no basis
     9        for making it, that on any other occasion any beef was
    10        imported to this country on behalf of McDonald's from
    11        Brazil.  I asked the question "had it ever happened since
    12        this particular batch" and I got the answer "no".  If
    13        Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris know of a reason to contradict
    14        that answer of Mr. Walker, why then, no doubt they will
    15        disclose the relevant documents and put it to him in
    16        cross-examination.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not propose to comment on that.  I read
    19        the documents through.  I underlined some.  If it is easy
    20        for you just to put the invoices in order for me so I can
    21        make a note of the dates and the page numbers, then that
    22        would be helpful.
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  May I to make that easier, I am sorry we have not
    25        had time to number these pages -----
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have got my numbered.  They start at 4 and
    28        at the beginning of tab 4 and tab 5 they go through 1 to
    29        26, and tab 5 of tab 5 which you are no longer on is
    30        numbered 1 to 12 in my bundle.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  May I ask whether your Lordship's invoices begin a
    33        page 1?
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  Page 1 is the 11th March letter to which
    36        you have referred.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  Tab 3 is what I think we are on.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We are now on tab 3.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  We are about to be on tab 3.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  My tab 3 is numbered 1 through to 18.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:  I do not think these are in exactly the right order
    47        either.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  By all means pick up any point you want to
    50        make in cross-examination of them.  I am merely inviting 
    51        Mr. Rampton -- does it involve going through all of them? 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  All I can say is that I have tried to do the
    54        arithmetic and within sort of 10 or 12,000 pounds of the
    55        total of I think something like 84 tonnes, I cannot make it
    56        quite add up.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What would help me is if you can give me what
    59        you think is the first document in time and the last
    60        document in time.

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