Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 52


     
     1   Q.   No idea?
     2        A.  No idea at all.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:   In terms of people who were regulars, the names
     5        that you said this morning, what about John; was he someone
     6        you considered a regular -- New Zealand John?
     7        A.  I suppose he was regular, in that I saw him on a number
     8        of occasions.  I have to know what you mean by "regular" to
     9        be able to answer that.
    10
    11   Q.   It was actually you who agreed with who -- I think you were
    12        asked who the regulars were.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He is merely asking for clarification now.
    15
    16   MS. STEEL:   I am using the same terms as whatever was used this
    17        morning.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  But it seems to me fair enough that if
    20        one wants to be more specific, rather than just speaking in
    21        general terms, if you want to ask about a particular
    22        person, it is just as well to know what "regular" is to
    23        mean for the purpose of question and answer.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:   (To the witness)  You put down Paul Gravett,
    26        myself, Mr. Morris, Jane Laporte and Andrew Clarke as
    27        regulars.  Would you also agree, by that definition that
    28        you have given for those people, would you also agree that
    29        John, Marion, Jonathan, Charlie, or any of those, would fit
    30        into that category?
    31        A.  Yes, it is possible that maybe Charlie -- to be
    32        perfectly honest with you, I do not recall who John is.
    33        The name, you say New Zealand John.  I presume that is the
    34        chap who went over to New Zealand and came back again.  But
    35        this is a long time ago, and a lot of individuals I do not
    36        remember, because I did not speak to very much or very
    37        often.
    38
    39   Q.   Is part of the reason you do not remember a lot of these
    40        people because they were not the ones that either became
    41        defendants in the case or became witnesses for the defence?
    42        A.  Well, I was not aware at that time that a case was
    43        being formed.
    44
    45   Q.   I know.  But you said you do not remember John, New Zealand
    46        John, for example; and he actually gets extensive mention
    47        in your notes.  So, in terms of the regulars that you have
    48        remembered -- I mean, have you read all of our witness
    49        statements, for example, Jane Laporte's statement,
    50        Charlie Brooks' statement, Paul Gravett's statement 
    51        and ----- 
    52        A.  I think I have, yes, but a long time ago.  I certainly 
    53        have not read them recently.
    54
    55   Q.   And of course you saw Jane Laporte in court yesterday?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   So, is it possible that the reason you gave those names
    59        this morning is because you have been reminded, either by
    60        the proceedings or by seeing those people, that, you know,

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