Day 267 - 21 Jun 96 - Page 69


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I have to say that I am not at all well-up
     2        on the various groups who are active in relation to animal
     3        rights and if it is important to an actual issue in the
     4        case that I keep the difference between one and another and
     5        know about them, clear and know about them, you will have
     6        to educate me about it.
     7
     8   MS. STEEL:  Well, there is one group.  Hackney and Islington
     9        Animal Rights Group which is the group that was basically
    10        organizing all the antiMcDonald's literature at that time.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have no difficulty remembering that because
    13        it could have an acronym HAIR and therefore I could
    14        remember that.  If you are--
    15
    16   MR. MORRIS:  I would like to be able to finish early today if
    17        possible.  We will definitely be finished by 1 o'clock on
    18        Monday.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is up to you.  You can break now.   My
    21        concern is you finish by 1 o'clock on Monday.
    22
    23        I have made that a deadline.  My experience is it sometimes
    24        helps you if I tell you how long you have got.
    25
    26        Now the other aspect is this.  Thank you Mr. Claire.  Will
    27        you be back in time to start again at 10.30 on Monday
    28        please?
    29        A.   Yes, my Lord.  (The witness withdrew)
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   If there is any possibility of you wanting
    32        Mr. Bishop or Mr. Pocklington back, and I am not suggesting
    33        they should be because of the new notes you have got, I
    34        think you should tell Mrs. Brinley-Codd that first thing on
    35        Monday morning because then she can see for instance
    36        whether there is -- and you must say, give an indication of
    37        how long they will be required.  You know, say is it a
    38        couple of questions or is it half-an-hour or what because
    39        if that is so, we have got to think when they might be
    40        slipped in.
    41
    42             Mr. Rampton, if Mrs. Brinley-Codd can make some
    43        inquiry as to whether, for instance, if they were required
    44        they would be available on Wednesday in case there is time
    45        then, well and good, because what I hope to have done by
    46        the time we adjourn on Wednesday, if we sit on Wednesday is
    47        to have finished Mr. Clare, finished Professor Crawford,
    48        dealt with any recall of Mr. Bishop or Mr. Pocklington was
    49        it not because Mr. Russell, the state of the evidence at
    50        the moment, there was no other inquiry agents and certainly 
    51        no notes had been disclosed.  So that when you know whether 
    52        your appeal has been successful, wholly or in part, or not 
    53        at all, you can then, very promptly, make your decision as
    54        to who you want to call and get straight on with those
    55        witnesses.  So I would like you to give some thought before
    56        the Appeal.  I would like you to consider because you know
    57        your grounds and basis of appeal and I do not, what the
    58        various permutations are, depending upon whatever the
    59        result of the appeal is.  So that you can make a decision
    60        immediately.

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