Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 52
1 restaurant?
2 A. Very.
3
4 Q. What are the size of the packages which arrive from McCane
5 in their frozen state?
6 A. Ten and half kilos.
7
8 Q. Which in volume is how big? I mean, I cannot envisage --
9 like that?
10 A. Like that. (Indicating)
11
12 Q. Have you any idea how many of these are used in a year?
13 A. We are using approximately 50,000 cartons a week
14 currently.
15
16 Q. 50,000 cartons a week. Has that number grown since 1978?
17 A. Substantially, it grows by around 12 to 14 per cent per
18 year.
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20 Q. Is that a significant part of your packaging use, the
21 packaging of french fries, for example?
22 A. It is probably the greater part of all outer packaging
23 that we use. It would certainly be substantially more than
24 hamburgers, for example.
25
26 Q. Then if we may look back with an overview of the evidence
27 you have been giving us since 2 o'clock, perhaps before,
28 how do you react to the suggestion that only a tiny
29 percentage or proportion of McDonald's packaging is or has
30 been recycled?
31 A. It is untrue.
32
33 Q. Now I want to ask you a bit more about packaging generally
34 and what we discussed earlier today, reduction. Are the
35 means by which you can eliminate quantities of packaging by
36 what one might call changes of scale?
37 A. Changes of scale meaning size?
38
39 Q. In the amount of material contained within a package of
40 whatever the package might be made.
41 A. There are means of eliminating packaging.
42
43 Q. All right, sorry, you tell us about that.
44 A. OK. Coca Cola in our restaurants today is delivered in
45 bulk tanks or, to be more precise, each restaurant has a
46 bulk tank. The distribution truck has a bulk tank also.
47 The two tanks are connected by a pipe at the time of
48 delivery and the tank in the restaurant is refilled.
49
50 Prior to this happening, all Cola syrups were delivered to
51 the restaurant in five litre jugs and a substantial number
52 of five litre jugs have been eliminated from the system.
53 In fact, all packaging relating to syrups has pretty much
54 been eliminated from the system as the packaging is now
55 permanent.
56
57 Q. The containers which have now been replaced, what were they
58 made of?
59 A. Plastic, polyethylene.
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