Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 50
1 the one hand, we have a Senior Supervisor who has contact
2 with the restaurant but has responsibility for another and,
3 on the other hand, you are saying: "Well, we are actually
4 calling someone who was there for a year". A lot is going
5 to depend on what I make of Mr. Cranna when he is called.
6 What I would have thought the headlines which you ought to
7 put, in however summary form, to Mrs. French are reluctance
8 to go to rap sessions, no-one wants to make waives, is
9 really what you are saying about that.
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11 MR. MORRIS: The thing is she says she does not remember any
12 specific rap session so I do not think there is not much
13 point asking her.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You do not have to take these, but they are
16 ones which you could touch on, if you want. OK? Let us
17 put that on one side. You can put on one side also high
18 pressure work because I have a picture and I will hear your
19 witnesses on that in due course; the meticulous attention
20 to the labour percentage, if you want to put something on
21 that, at the store. You do not, in my view, have to put
22 attitude to trade unions because I have had a lot of
23 evidence on that, and I am waiting to hear what your
24 evidence is and then to see how it falls into place in the
25 case as a whole.
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27 MR. MORRIS: Yes. Most of it is very general and regarding
28 policy rather than any specific incident.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, very well.
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32 MR. MORRIS: That is what I am trying to ascertain really is
33 just how much I need to ask questions.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there actually any need in the context of
36 -- I mean, I may be making a problem where none may exist
37 even by going through this.
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39 MR. RAMPTON: I was going to respectfully suggest that was
40 probably right, my Lord, with this possible exception, the
41 bit about wage costs because, according to Mr. Cranna, that
42 is something which was not, as it were, internalised at the
43 store but came from and was the subject of discussion with
44 superior people. That, I believe, ought to be put because
45 if it were so Mrs. French would surely know about it.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would have thought that is probably right
48 because that comes from -- your suggestion is generally in
49 the case -- above and it is Mrs. French who is the person
50 overall responsible for that. But you are really being
51 given the green light by Mr. Rampton and me, on reflection,
52 that you do not have to put really any of the other
53 matters. You can call Mr. Cranna and either lead or take
54 him through his evidence so that I can do my best to get
55 the measure of him.
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57 MR. MORRIS: We have already heard a lot of evidence on the
58 labour targets and things like that, so I do not see
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