Day 007 - 06 Jul 94 - Page 70


     
     1   Q.   Was that the only one at that time that had recycled paper
              in it?
     2        A.  Unless you are trying to catch me -- I think I was
              talking about napkins, happy meal cartons in addition.
     3
         Q.   Napkins and happy meal cartons.  So would it be fair to
     4        say that of that 6 per cent that was recycled, it is quite
              possible that 3 or 4 per cent of that could be corrugated
     5        shipping?
              A.  No, I said that corrugated did have recycled content,
     6        but the 6 per cent you were talking about is for the
              consumer packaging you are asking about.
     7
         Q.   I thought the chart applied to paper and paper board, does
     8        that not include corrugated?
              A.  No.  Point me to the chart and I can look at it.
     9        Usually the quantifications that I do, I know what is in
              corrugated, but I do not put that in the customer
    10        packaging numbers that is what the 6 per cent is in
              reference to.
    11
         Q.   I cannot remember what page it is on now.  349:
    12        "McDonald's paper packaging consumption".  It looks at
              the total paper consumption?
    13        A.  I am still trying to find it -- I am sorry.
 
    14   Q.   349.
              A.  For instance -- there is another chart in here.
    15
         Q.   It is in tab 4, virtually at the back.
    16        A.  Yes.  You cannot tell from that if it includes
              corrugated or not, but a subsequent chart you can.
    17
         Q.   This figure of 181,000 for 1992 -----
    18        A.  Does not include corrugated.
 
    19   Q.   Does not?
              A.  Does not, no.
    20
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where are we going on this, Mr. Morris?  If
    21        your cross-examination on this point is successful, what
              answer are you hoping for?
    22
         MR. MORRIS:  I think we can look into this later, but I want to
    23        try to establish that that 6 per cent may include, 5 of
              that 6 may include corrugated packaging?
    24        A.  No, it is not true.
 
    25   Q.   So this chart is only for the consumer ---
              A.  The customer. 
    26 
         Q.   -- customer packaging? 
    27        A.  Correct.
 
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, maybe I can help.  If one looks at
              page ----
    29        A.  Page 50 was the chart I was looking for.  If you
              notice on page 51 there is a percentage quoted for
    30        corrugated, broken out from page 50, and the number of
              corrugated, the weight from corrugated containers is not

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