Day 073 - 13 Jan 95 - Page 30
1 Q. From, yes.
2 A. Yes. They are the same. It comes from a different
3 train of thought because the situation in Scotland is
4 different; the problems in Scotland are different to the
5 ones in England. But I would maintain, and I still
6 maintain, that paper from both of those sources has an
7 adverse effect on the environment but for different reasons
8 in the two kingdoms.
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10 Q. Are you saying that one sheet of paper has an adverse
11 effect, or are you saying a significant use of paper has an
12 adverse effect?
13 A. One sheet of paper will have some microscopic
14 immeasurable effect on the environment, but sheets of paper
15 mount up. Eventually the use of paper, of which McDonald's
16 are a part, is damaging to the environment.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is that a convenient moment to break off?
19 Let us break off there until two o'clock.
20
21 (Luncheon Adjournment).
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23 MR. MORRIS: I am just working through the statement noting the
24 references really, the important references. On page 30
25 you have quoted the International Union for Conservation of
26 Nature in 8.5.2 in the statement on endangered species in
27 Sweden. One of your references which is No. 10 is a letter
28 to you Karin Lindahl. Do you want to say who that is?
29 A. Karin Lindahl. Karin Lindahl is a board member of the
30 Swedish Society for Nature Conservation. She is also the
31 co-ordinator. She has been seconded to the TIAGA Rescue
32 network which is an environmental organisation --
33 T-I-A-G-A.
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35 Q. That is a network that you are part of?
36 A. I am part of that network.
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38 Q. I do not know if you have a copy of that letter there?
39 A. I am just looking to see if I have a copy of Karin's
40 letter -- I have, yes.
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42 Q. Have you highlighted certain pieces?
43 A. I have highlighted certain bits, yes.
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45 Q. Do you want to just mention anything of particular
46 interest?
47 A. I think the most important thing or one of the
48 important things is I asked Karin for some details of what
49 had happened before 1990 because, apparently, I understand
50 this is a critical date, and that is was not so easily
51 available to me in this country, so she replied.
52 Basically, she is sending me information about a survey
53 done on biodiversity and species lost in Finland.
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55 Q. Can you speak a little bit more slowly and clearly?
56 A. Right, she is talking about species lost due to
57 forestry in Finland -- sorry, not Finland, in Sweden,
58 excuse me.
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60 Q. Can I hand this to the Judge? It is my copy. (Same
