Day 073 - 13 Jan 95 - Page 41
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2 MR. RAMPTON: -- so is the whole of Ontario. That is very
3 informative, thank you. Would you like to see a map?
4 I can pass you a map so long as you undertake to pass it
5 back.
6 A. I do not exactly know where it is.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, Mr. Rampton has brought his school atlas
9 and you can have a look at that.
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11 MR. RAMPTON: It is a bit better than a school atlas. I have
12 looked it up in the Gazatteer and I cannot find Gordon
13 Cousins Forest, otherwise I would not have asked you the
14 question I did.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you think if you were actually handed an
17 atlas and it is as detailed as most household atlases
18 go -----
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20 MR. RAMPTON: It is The Time's.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I thought I recognised it. Do you think
23 you would be able to pin it down then?
24 A. I might be able to; I am not certain is the answer to
25 that, not to sort of -----
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27 Q. Is there anything in the script besides the photograph that
28 which helps you?
29 A. I am just reading down the script now. No, I cannot
30 see anything that would pin it down precisely.
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32 MR. RAMPTON: As it is not in the Gazatteer, then there is no
33 point in us looking at the map, my Lord.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The trouble with Canada is you have
36 absolutely phenomenal areas?
37 A. Yes.
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39 Q. You can drive for hundreds and hundreds of miles -- I do
40 not know whether that is right in the forest because you
41 get to a certain stage and you just have to fly because you
42 cannot get through by any other means of transport?
43 A. It is a very big country.
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45 Q. If you can find a bit of higher land (which is not always
46 easy) you can look around you and you see nothing but trees
47 as far as the eye can see even on a beautiful, clear day,
48 can you not?
49 A. Yes, particularly if you are driving through you will
50 see nothing but trees because the Canadian and the American
51 industry leave what they call "beauty strips", partly
52 because of the tourist industry and, particularly along the
53 major highways, you will often see nothing but forests,
54 simply because there is 100 metres either side of forest
55 preserve. I have often walked through those 100 metres
56 which, if you were just a tourist driving through, say,
57 northern Alberta, you walk off those roads through 100
58 metres of forest and behind that it is pure clear cut, but
59 unless you know to look, you will not know. They are
60 called "beauty strips" -- that is their own language in
