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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  That is right.
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     4   MS. STEEL:  This is the notes of Mr. Pocklington and it is the
     5        paragraph just after the part that has been blanked out?
     6        A.  Right.
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     8   Q.   Have you read that?
     9        A.  Yes.
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    11   Q.   Do you have any comments to make about -- were you at this
    12        meeting?
    13        A.  Yes.
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    15   Q.   Do you have any comments to make about that?
    16        A.  I remember the meeting, I remember the discussion about
    17        Paul appearing on the BBC World Service.  What
    18        Mr. Pocklington says here tallies with what I remember.  I
    19        am not sure about Alan Claire's.  He says "would use the
    20        fact that McDonald's stood down as victory literature".
    21        That is quite over the top, really.  I do not know.  Then
    22        he says--
    23
    24   Q.   Sorry.  Can you keep your voice up?
    25        A.  Sorry.
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  Can you speak slowly and clearly because we cannot
    28        hear the asides?
    29        A.  I mean, Alan Claire said here "certain members of the
    30        group think that McDonald's refusal is lucky because if
    31        McDonald's had said yes they may be..."  What does that
    32        say?
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    34   MS. STEEL:  "May of", I think?
    35        A.  "May have" -- what does that say?
    36
    37   Q.   "May of with true facts and figures"?
    38        A.  "... true facts and figures make London Greenpeace look
    39        shitty."  I don't remember.  Everyone in London Greenpeace
    40        knew the leaflet to be true, no one would ever have said
    41        that.  I don't know why Alan Claire would have said that.
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    43   Q.   You do not remember anything of that kind being said at
    44        that meeting?
    45        A.  I think we were all confident that Paul would go and
    46        speak on his behalf and talk about the campaign.
    47
    48   Q.   Mr. Morris is going to come back to some--
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    50   MR. MORRIS:  I will do it as we go through.  The 1st March 1990
    51        notes of Roy Pocklington, I do not know what number that
    52        would be?
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    54   MS. STEEL:  Page 89.
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    56   MR. MORRIS:  Thank you.  According to what we have heard from
    57        the private investigators this seems to be the first time
    58        you and me were at the same meeting for a substantial
    59        amount of time.  Can I just ask you a bit of a background
    60        question?  Since you joined the group in October 1988, what

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