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1 can I just say there are a couple of things I wanted to
2 raise about what Mr. Rampton had said in his closing
3 submissions which I consider to be incorrect.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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7 MS. STEEL: I do not know whether you have it in front of you
8 or not, this is on the publication bit.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You want me to look at the -----
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12 MS. STEEL: Yes, it may be easier.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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16 MS. STEEL: Actually, while I have it on my mind before
17 I forget, in the animal section Mr. Rampton said something
18 about that Clare Druce and Alan Lomb said that they would
19 defer, or something, to Dr. Gregory. Now, I have not had
20 time to look it up, but that is not my recollection. As
21 far as I recall, they said that they would respect his
22 experience but that they disagreed with his
23 interpretation. So, just that if you were thinking about
24 attaching any significance to that part of Mr. Rampton's
25 submission, I would urge you to check what they actually
26 said on the subject of their view of Dr. Gregory.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I bear that in mind. I have a
29 recollection of Mrs. Druce being asked by Mr. Rampton
30 whether she respected Mr. Gregory and she said, yes, she
31 did and then adds something, although she was a little
32 disappointed with some of the things he had said.
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34 MS. STEEL: Right.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Or words to that effect. I have not looked
37 it up. That is just my recollection of the evidence as she
38 gave it.
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40 MS. STEEL: OK.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Anyway, I have to say, I formed a very
43 favourable impression of Dr. Gregory myself, but at the end
44 of the day I have to look at individual issues in relation
45 to that and see what I make of it all. But I have made a
46 note of that comment, anyway.
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48 MS. STEEL: Right. We are not trying to suggest that you
49 should not have a good opinion of him, whether -----
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I know, but that is not the end of the day.
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53 MS. STEEL: But people do have different opinions on what is
54 acceptable.
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Both you and Mr. Rampton have made points
57 about what you say the relevance or irrelevance of industry
58 standards are.
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60 MS. STEEL: Yes, right. OK. Moving back to publication. This
