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1 done with other witnesses.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Atkinson has advised himself and me about the
6 law and we do not actually believe that your Lordship's
7 warning is necessary, but that does not mean to say--
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: My practice is to give it when I am in any
10 doubt whatsoever. If you are asked any question, the
11 answer to which you think may put you in peril of any
12 criminal proceedings you are entitled not to answer. It is
13 entirely up to you whether you answer it or not but you are
14 entitled to say you do not wish to answer it.
15 A. Yes, my Lord.
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17 MR. RAMPTON: I will repeat the question which you had just
18 begun to answer, which was something to the effect --
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Lock was not very strong and it was
21 decided --
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23 MR. RAMPTON: That is right. Now, you can stop there if you
24 want?
25 A. Well, it was decided to gain entry to the premises for
26 the purpose of taking photographs which clearly depict what
27 they do.
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29 Q. Did you have to break anything to get in?
30 A. I used a 'phone card to swipe a lock.
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32 Q. That is to swipe the lock back. But you did not actually
33 break anything?
34 A. No, not at all.
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36 Q. Right. My Lord, what I will do -- I am going to
37 concentrate principally, Mr. Claire, on your handwritten
38 notes as being a contemporaneous record of what you
39 remember happening at the meetings. My Lord, what I will
40 do is to give the references in the statements at the same
41 time. Mr. Claire, I want to move from 4th January 1990 to
42 18th which, as far as we know, is your second meeting. My
43 Lord, that is page 630 of the notes bundle, page 7 in Mr.
44 Claire's notes, and it his first statement, paragraphs
45 1-7. Can you find page 60 in the notes?
46 A. Yes I have got this. What page of the notes? Page 7.
47 MR. RAMPTON: Top right-hand corner, page 7. One question which
48 may arise later on, we may as well get it out of the way
49 now. These typewritten statements which you signed for
50 this case, did you write them yourself or were they written
51 by the solicitors?
52 A. Well, they went through me and the solicitor and typed
53 by the solicitors.
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55 Q. I am not interested in any discussion of contents with your
56 solicitors. Did you discuss the matter before a statement
57 was sent to you for approval and signature?
58 A. Not with them. I would have looked through my notes.
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60 Q. I see. So in large part your statements, directly or
