Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 42
1 (if it has not already happened) of drowning in detail.
2 So, there is that practical aspect as well the strictly
3 legal one.
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5 MR. MORRIS: When Perseco came on the scene, so to speak, in
6 about 1991, was it, in terms of McDonald's Euro?
7 A. They came on scene in 1990. I came on the scene in
8 1991.
9
10 Q. So when you came on the scene in 1991 they had already
11 started this process of investigating all the -----
12 A. No.
13
14 Q. They had not?
15 A. No.
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17 Q. You started that?
18 A. I started that off.
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20 Q. I would prefer it if the witness answered the question and
21 not Mr. Rampton. To get to the point, we are mainly
22 concerned in this case with -----
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24 MS. STEEL: In this letter it says: "You have asked us to
25 evaluate changes to the specification of McDonald's
26 napkins, in particular, the alteration of width, use of
27 recycled paper and the embossing of a recycling logo and
28 words". It then goes on to say: "We are also looking at
29 the greater use of recycled materials in the wrapper (bag)
30 and outer carton and a packaging change to 200 PCS per
31 bag". Would you agree that it seems to imply that the
32 napkins did not have a recycled content before this date?
33 A. I could not tell you what they implied at that time.
34 I do not know what was used before that.
35
36 Q. What is the wrapper?
37 A. The napkins are -- you have got X amount of napkins,
38 500 generally or 250, they are wrapped in a paper bag.
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40 Q. In a paper bag?
41 A. In a paper bag and that is put in the -----
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43 Q. Then they have a box around that as well?
44 A. They have a box around that. It is very difficult to
45 pack 6,000 napkins without inner packaging in a carton.
46
47 Q. So how many bags would go in one box then?
48 A. 12.
49
50 Q. Right.
51 A. That is the current situation. To be honest, whether
52 that was exactly the case there, I do not know. At this
53 point in time it has 12 inner packs of 500, so 6,000 in a
54 case.
55
56 Q. The outer carton would be one of the corrugated cardboard
57 boxes or what?
58 A. The transport packaging that we are talking about, yes,
59 the corrugated boxes we are talking about.
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