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1 safety committees or safety reps, or anything like that?
2 A. Oh, yes. We have safety representatives; they actually
3 have the power to close down a restaurant if they deem it
4 necessary, which would be in a case where it would be
5 obviously dangerous to the employees to go on working. But
6 that is something the law provides for and which could very
7 well have been in operation without a union; but it never
8 has; there has never been any safety representatives that
9 have been doing anything while there has not been a union
10 at McDonald's.
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12 Q. Just one final question: in Theo Holm's second
13 supplementary statement in paragraph 10 and over the page
14 on page 4, he said that he, Theo Holm: "....informed the
15 crew it was my view that McDonald's ought to be able to
16 take care of them so tht they were happy and content in
17 their working environment."
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19 Are there things that made you unhappy and discontent in
20 your working environment?
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not bother to ask that. I can draw my own
23 conclusions about things like that.
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25 MR. MORRIS: OK. I have no further questions.
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27 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have no cross-examination at this
28 moment. By saying that, I do not mean to suggest that
29 I invite your Lordship to say to Mr. Jenssen that he has to
30 come back. There are two reasons why I do not have any
31 cross-examination. The first is that it later emerged,
32 after some very considerable time, that everything
33 Mr. Jenssen had to say about the night closer issue was
34 hearsay; so that was a complete waste of time -- because he
35 said he did not hear about it until after he got one of the
36 leaflets on the picket line, which I think was some time in
37 December. The second reason is that the vast bulk of the
38 rest of his evidence was stuff of which I had no notice at
39 all. I am going to have to send a transcript to Norway.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not accept that, necessarily.
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43 MR. RAMPTON: No. All the things about rates of pay, about the
44 lack of ventilation, all of that about the working
45 conditions -----
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is Mr. Holm available on the phone at this
48 moment?
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50 MR. RAMPTON: I have no idea, my Lord.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, I will come back at two, and I expect
53 you to tell me.
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55 (Luncheon Adjournment)
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: (To the witness): Do sit down for a moment
58 will you, please?
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60 What is the position with regards to cross-examination or
