Day 121 - 04 May 95 - Page 69
1 A. Yes.
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3 Q. You would?
4 A. Yes.
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6 Q. If they were not, would that be a matter of great concern?
7 A. Great concern. As shown in the video, it is one on one
8 training.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you still on schedule to finish
11 cross-examining Mr. Nicholson comfortably tomorrow?
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13 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Because if you are confident of that,
16 allowing Mr. Rampton to re-examine, in case he wanted to,
17 we will break off there. There is one short matter I want
18 to mention.
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20 MS. STEEL: Right, yes.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Unless there is something you must ask
23 tonight in order to set yourself up for tomorrow?
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25 MS. STEEL: No, I do not think so.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Right. The thing I wanted to mention was the
28 question of the computer print-outs we got, because I would
29 like you -- it is another reason for breaking off a few
30 minutes early -- to turn your mind to the print-outs which
31 Mr. Nicholson has referred to and, indeed, you
32 cross-examined him on, some if not all of them from time to
33 time, and say whether you are prepared to accept that they
34 are what they purport to be, and you are prepared to accept
35 the figures on the printout. If you are, well and good; if
36 you are not, then it may just be that Mr. Rampton might
37 have to call evidence (which might be very short) to make
38 them admissible in evidence.
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40 If either he or Mr. Atkinson makes a list of the ones which
41 they might want to rely on at the end of the day, then we
42 can check some time tomorrow as to whether you accept them
43 or not.
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45 The only reason I mention it is because I do not want to be
46 spending time thinking about what conclusion I might draw
47 from some of those figures if, for instance, you are saying
48 you do not accept the admissibility of the document and Mr.
49 Rampton is not going to bother to go through the
50 formalities of proving it. I can just put it on one side
51 and forget it, however much evidence has been adduced on
52 the basis that it might be correct.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, may I say, a helpful thing would be if
55 the Defendants did that exercise first because then I need
56 only bother with those that they do not accept. If they
57 accept everything else, then I need not trouble about it.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. It is entirely a matter for you, but if
60 someone has a complete list, it will not be very long.
