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     1        said, five or seven years, or something, and again I have
     2        not got my notebook with me -- then they should be
     3        available for the summer of 1993 and the summer of 1994;
     4        and if they were thought to be useful to link up with the
     5        other documents, then it depends which particular year the
     6        Plaintiffs have the documents available, the schedules
     7        available for.
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  Can I just say, just going back to point 9 for one
    12        minute, that I think Mr. Richards said that the rap
    13        sessions were five pages, approximately five pages, the
    14        minutes of those rap session or notes of those rap
    15        sessions.
    16
    17        I think that is all I really need to say on the clock card
    18        computer sheets.  I do not need to say anything about 11.
    19        Really, we are in your hands about what you feel is the
    20        most significant period.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL: It seems to me at the moment I have to -- at
    23        the moment, the documents which Mr. Rampton has referred to
    24        me seem to be sufficient; that is, the kinds of documents.
    25        The queries in my mind are for what periods and whether
    26        there should be any blanking out of names at all.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  Shall I go on to points 12, 13 and 14?
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Rampton said that the service history file
    33        exists and that anything related to the RCDs, the toasters
    34        and grease troughs would be relevant -- the RCD, yes.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What dates are we concerned with there,
    37        according to your information from Mr. Logan?
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  Well, I am a bit unclear exactly when it was.
    40        I think it was a for a ten month period, and that the RCD
    41        was failing.  I cannot remember what Mr. Richards said.  He
    42        did not dispute the period.  I do not know if he
    43        mentioned -----
    44
    45   MR. RAMPTON:  I am not sure that he did not -- I think
    46        Mr. Logan, from recollection, said eight months, and
    47        I think Mr. Richards said two or three months.  So there is
    48        a dispute about that.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Mr. Richards on page 7, point 16, line 3, 
    51        says: "Logan is correct in saying there was a fault in the 
    52        system which lasted approximately 10 months from 
    53        installation of the system until it was overhauled."
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL: That may not be too much of a problem, because
    56        if I were to say documents in relation to the tripping of
    57        the RCD system, that will no doubt define itself.
    58
    59        What was the alleged three month period for the grease
    60        trough, and what period were we concerned with over the

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