Day 150 - 07 Jul 95 - Page 74
1 payroll how many could only work, who were only available
2 to work Saturdays only.
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4 MR. MORRIS: Yes, that might be helpful, yes.
5 A. Maybe a dozen, because if I go back to the thing about
6 balancing the schedule of requirements was that if
7 I suddenly found that business was growing rapidly on a
8 Saturday, and a Saturday only, then maybe one of the
9 actions I would look at was to recruit more Saturday only
10 people.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I understand that because you do not want to
13 take them on as part-timers who want to work Wednesday and
14 Saturday, if you all you are trying to do is have a
15 sufficient number of employers to your burgeoning Saturday,
16 for instance?
17 A. That is absolutely right.
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19 Q. While Wednesday is staying just the same?
20 A. Sure, that does fit in with their requirements and they
21 are not going to be prepared to work those sort of
22 Saturdays only if they want to work Wednesdays as well.
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I really think you have to put what you are
25 trying to achieve from this, bearing in mind what the
26 issues are actually in the case.
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28 MR. MORRIS: The reality is that people working Saturday only
29 who are on the books for some considerable period are
30 distorting the turnover figures in terms of evaluating
31 whether the turnover rate is high or low, because they can
32 be on the books for a long period of time but, effectively,
33 they are only working once a week or once every fortnight?
34 A. We have people who have been working for us for maybe
35 two years, joined at 16, only started off as a Saturday and
36 then when they became 18 left school, joined us in
37 full-time education. They are on our books only because
38 they are available to work. If that availability only
39 means Saturdays, whether it is day or night, then they work
40 those. We do not have anybody on the schedule, on the
41 payroll, who does not work hours full stop. We do not not
42 terminate somebody off the payroll, as I think are you
43 suggesting, in order to make the figures of turnover look
44 better than they already are, because if that was the case
45 they would not receive their P45s for their next and
46 subsequent jobs. So it is quite -- that cannot happen.
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48 Q. I will leave that there for the moment.
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50 MS. STEEL: I just wanted to ask, the Leicester store had a 100
51 people on the payroll?
52 A. Right.
53
54 Q. How many days a week was it open?
55 A. Leicester, seven days a week.
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57 Q. Seven days a week, and what were the hours?
58 A. Nine till about midnight, perhaps, I think it was; nine
59 until 11 o'clock during the week days and then Fridays and
60 Saturdays I think it was open until midnight.
