Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 61
1 MR. RAMPTON: Potatoes and chips were treated seperately.
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3 MR. MORRIS: What page are we on?
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5 MR. RAMPTON: Page 46 table 8 and it is the bottom section.
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7 MR. MORRIS: We do at not have that page?
8 A. There is no doubt that potatoes, even fried potatoes,
9 are a good source of vitamin C, I will accept that. I
10 think that is fair evidence.
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12 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I can come back to that later on in that
13 case, we do not need any figures now. One small final
14 point on this page Professor Crawford, at the bottom you
15 have written:
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17 "Many factors are involved in the geographical and
18 socio-economic contrast in heart disease and cancer, diet
19 being one."
20 A. Yes.
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22 Q. "Author Willett and Powell Rosemund(?) (reads to the words)
23 contribute to 30 thousand deaths a year in the USA."
24 A. Yes.
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26 Q. "Trans-isomers are a biological equivalent to saturated fat
27 and are derived from fats of ruminants, such as sheep, and
28 hydrogenated vegetable oils."
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30 The trans-isomers or trans fatty acids which are found in
31 ruminants are not thought to constitute a hazard to human
32 health, are they?
33 A. On what grounds?
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35 Q. On what grounds? I have the answer to your question as it
36 happens?
37 A. Biologically the trans-isomer, whether it is in a
38 ruminant animal or whether it is produced by catalytic
39 hydrogenation is the same, chemically.
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41 Q. Let me try putting something to you?
42 A. You get a much wider rage of trans-isomers when you
43 hydrogenate vegetable oils than you do from the simple
44 ruminant process.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But the trans-isomer in the ruminant is
47 passed, is it, into the human system?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. If you eat animal meat?
51 A. Yes, if you eat animal fat.
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53 Q. Yes?
54 A. It is not in the meat itself as it so happens, it is
55 predominantly in fat.
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57 Q. I am sorry, but if you eat an animal meat dish which has
58 some animal fat in it?
59 A. Yes.
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