Day 103 - 14 Mar 95 - Page 63
1 better. If the lungs are still in the carcass, quite
2 frankly, it makes absolutely no difference to the quality
3 of the carcass.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is out of 100 samples?
6 A. I think they are checking 25.
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8 Q. Are they?
9 A. Yes.
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11 Q. So the figure of 100 under the sample next to evisceration
12 near the top is -- if, for instance, we see there are two
13 lungs in at 15, it looks as if 6.15, the sample appears to
14 be 94 there?
15 A. OK, well, maybe that was the case. I am not really
16 sure.
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18 MR. MORRIS: I think that is percentage. 100 is a per cent, the
19 sample is 25 which explains the single figures for all the
20 percentage.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Why do you say that?
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24 MR. MORRIS: It says sample, 25.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, that is against another line. The
27 evisceration sample is 100. In fact, it looks as if they
28 never actually did do 100, but 94 at 6.15, 96 at 7.20, and
29 so on. They only did 90 at 10 past 1. Do you see?
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31 MR. MORRIS: Yes. Anyway, it may not be a crucial point,
32 frankly.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, it may well not be.
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36 MR. MORRIS: On the next page it has at the bottom
37 right-hand -- what are these, these temperatures on the
38 right-hand chart, the right-hand bottom chart, which seem
39 to be superimposed on a different chart?
40 A. Yes.
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42 Q. What temperatures are they exactly, do you know?
43 A. The temperatures coming out of the chillers.
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45 Q. What temperature should they be? They should be a maximum
46 of four, should they?
47 A. That is the target maximum, yes.
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49 Q. But some do go above four, yes?
50 A. Occasionally and that is why they have written
51 "monitor" against it.
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53 Q. No, that 355 is 3 degrees, 5 degrees and 5 degrees, is it
54 not?
55 A. That is correct. They have taken three different
56 readings.
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58 Q. If we go to the next page, so you have requirements that
59 certain temperatures should not reach above four degrees.
60 When it reaches above four degrees you put "monitor"?
