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     1        A.  No, not at all.  I was not interested in the Guardian's
     2        article, as much as I was interested to tell the truth to
     3        somebody or a couple of people in an organisation which
     4        seemed to be doing a research about what is going on behind
     5        the scene at McDonald's, and I wanted to help them rather
     6        than the Guardian article really.
     7
     8   Q.   You did not like the way McDonald's worked because you did
     9        not like taking orders; that is right, is it not?
    10        A.  I did not like the way McDonald's worked because
    11        I regarded it as unfair.
    12
    13   Q.   You found being asked to do cleaning jobs, things like
    14        that, you found them degrading, did you not?
    15        A.  I find any job which is in your job description
    16        reasonable to do.  I would not say it was degrading.  Some
    17        part of my maintenance job that I voluntarily took on was
    18        not particularly clean, but I did not find it degrading
    19        because it was part of my job.
    20
    21   Q.   Did you have an interview with the solicitors for the
    22        Guardian I think on 21st October 1987?
    23        A.  I might have had, yes.  I did have the interview but as
    24        to a precise date I am not sure of it.
    25
    26   Q.   Do you remember telling the solicitor that the McDonald's
    27        staff system was hierarchial?
    28        A.  Yes.
    29
    30   Q.   You had to take orders from absolutely everyone?
    31        A.  That is correct.
    32
    33   Q.   Do you remember telling him that you had to do Ajax
    34        cleaning and other such duties which you described as
    35        "degrading"?
    36        A.  I would have said if it is done as a punishment it is
    37        degrading, yes.
    38
    39   Q.   Did you say that there was at McDonald's what you called a
    40        "savage pecking order"?
    41        A.  That is not my sentence.  I would not use that sort of
    42        thing.
    43
    44   Q.   Do you remember telephoning Simon Gibney shortly after you
    45        left McDonald's?
    46        A.  No.
    47
    48   Q.   You do not?
    49        A.  I have not been in touch with Simon since I have left
    50        McDonald's. 
    51 
    52   Q.   There are, as you probably know, a number of people from 
    53        that particular period at Colchester that have signed
    54        statements for the Defendants in this case.
    55        A.  Yes.
    56
    57   Q.   Was it you who got those together?
    58        A.  No.  I have not seen any of them since then.
    59
    60   Q.   Why did you not tell the truth in your written statement

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