Day 135 - 15 Jun 95 - Page 12


     
     1        the time to recall it.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I just explain that I asked the questions
     4        which I did because it is often very useful to find out,
     5        and in all the times I have listened to cross-examination
     6        of witnesses or cross-examined them myself, when they are
     7        looking back over a period of years and their statement is
     8        comparatively recent, it is often a very useful question to
     9        ask.  I am making no comment on Mr. Sexton's evidence, but
    10        if one starts from the premise in relation to any
    11        particular witness that there is no ground to believe that
    12        they are lying on purpose, then you have to see what feats
    13        of memory they would have to perform in order to have a
    14        recollection, good or bad, of any particular matter.
    15
    16   MS. STEEL:  Yes.  I was not at that time suggesting that
    17        Mr. Sexton was lying.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  All I am doing, because you are
    20        representing yourself, is making that point which, after
    21        all, is pretty obvious.
    22
    23   MS. STEEL:  Right.   (Pause)
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You do not have to struggle to think what
    26        there is you must ask a witness who is looking back over a
    27        very long period of time.  If there is some positive
    28        instruction which you have got from Mr. Sutcliffe, or some
    29        positive point of information which you think you ought in
    30        fairness put to Mr. Sexton, or which you think may elicit
    31        useful evidence for you, then by all means do it.  But I am
    32        not expecting anyone when I heaver over the ensuing weeks
    33        witnesses who have worked for McDonald's called to say what
    34        they can or cannot remember about matters which may be many
    35        years ago to be tested on every detail.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  Just going through what you said in-chief -- asked
    38        by Mr. Rampton -- you said when you started in 1976 you
    39        worked Saturdays only for about a year, is that correct, or
    40        mostly Saturdays?
    41        A.  Something like that.  I mean, obviously, during school
    42        holidays I think I done more hours.
    43
    44   Q.   So for people who were actually at school or college, is
    45        that quite a normal thing, to work Saturdays only?
    46        A.  Saturdays were the busiest days so that you would have
    47        the most part-timers on, yes.
    48
    49   Q.   You said that grievences would be attended to and acted on
    50        as thought appropriate? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Could you give some examples of staff grievances which you
    54        know were acted upon?
    55        A.  What, from that period?
    56
    57   Q.   No, from, say, the East Ham store that you dealt with as a
    58        Manager?
    59        A.  Well, I can think of an example for myself where I had
    60        a particular grievance with my own Supervisor.  We just did

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