Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 66


     
     1        A.  He might have found out from somewhere else, I do not
     2        know.  We did not say anything to him until that night.
     3
     4   Q.   It may have well have been him that told you?
     5        A.  That night.
     6
     7   Q.   Right.  Was the position perhaps this, that you and Sabina
     8        were talking about having joined the union, Chris overheard
     9        you, came up and said that he was aware that a lot of crew
    10        members had joined a union?
    11        A.  No.
    12
    13   Q.   He told you about what his dad had told him about unions
    14        and you then sat about discussing how you would take action
    15        against that?
    16        A.  Sabina and I were sitting there for about half an hour
    17        before Chris even came in.  We started talking about our
    18        day at work, school, whatever.  The union thing came up.
    19        We dropped it.  We started talking about normal stuff
    20        again.  Chris came in.  We talked about just normal stuff
    21        with Chris for a while and then we be both looked at each
    22        other and said it to Chris, what had happened to us.
    23
    24   Q.   You agree with what Sabina said about Chris Broom's role in
    25        the petition and the letters and -----
    26        A.  You mean him giving us the idea to do it?
    27
    28   Q.   Yes.
    29        A.  Yes.  We asked him what we could do and that is what he
    30        told us.
    31
    32   Q.   What were you saying to people when you phoned them up to
    33        ask them about signing the petition?  Did you say to
    34        people, to other crew members, that it would be a good idea
    35        if they backed Cam and showed their support for the store
    36        management?
    37        A.  No.
    38
    39   Q.   When you say:  "Sabina is also right that many people
    40        approached us voluntarily", that was after the phone calls
    41        had been made, was it not?
    42        A.  What do you mean "approached us voluntarily"?
    43
    44   Q.   That is what you said in the statement.
    45        A.  Well, they were in the room, the crew room, doing
    46        this.  I mean, if we were talking to one person, they would
    47        come up to us and ask us what we were doing.
    48
    49   Q.   Is that all three of you in the crew room?
    50        A.  No, it was me at one point. 
    51 
    52   Q.   But all three of you at other points? 
    53        A.  Not all at once, no.
    54
    55   Q.   OK.  You said:  "I was working on a shift", this is on
    56        Monday 4th October after the petition had been presented,
    57         "that day and after Sabina and Bonnie had returned to the
    58        office and had spoken to Cam, I spoke to Cam about the
    59        attempt at unionisation.  I thought he should know what was
    60        going on in his store".  You were aware that Sabina that

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