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1 accessible, because it may help your Lordship to resolve
2 the conflict of evidence between the two witnesses. But
3 expressed as they are, it does seem to me that what once
4 again what Mr. Morris is doing is fishing for a case which
5 he may not have -- the way he has expressed himself.
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Or he may not have been as precise as he
8 could be.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: That is what I am saying.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Take A, B, C and D and tell me what you
13 are getting at, Mr. Morris. I have read the statements but
14 I obviously cannot remember them in detail, so I would like
15 you to tell me what you are trying to get at in each of
16 those classes.
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18 MR. MORRIS: Mr. Hill is trying to find me copies of the
19 statements, very kindly. While we are waiting for
20 that -----
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have Shaun Richards at 39C.
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24 MR. RAMPTON: I have a spare copy of Richards which I want back
25 because I use it for annotation purposes.
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27 MR. MORRIS: For example, I have not got Mr. Logan's statement
28 so that is making it difficult -----
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where does he appear?
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32 MR. MORRIS: He is our witness.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He is 25 in pale blue II.
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36 MR. MORRIS: Yes. He has a substantial supplementary statement
37 to which Mr. Richards has responded, so he should be behind
38 his other statements. It is something like a four-page
39 statement or something. I have just been given a copy
40 now. It is about eight or nine pages.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, but it is -----
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44 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, can I help? The first item in
45 Mr. Morris's letter is derived, I believe, from page 3 of
46 Mr. Logan's supplementary statement under the heading
47 "Clock cards" which is Mr. Richards' response from pages 4
48 and 5 of Mr. Richards' statement, paragraph 11 at the
49 bottom. One ought to read Mr. Logan's passage first.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will read that. Are you ready to go on
52 that?
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54 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I think that really speaks for itself in terms
55 of it being an issue in dispute.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, but what are you asking for?
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59 MR. MORRIS: I have not cast a wide net. What I have said is
60 that the daily clock card report plus the adjustments sheet
