Day 079 - 27 Jan 95 - Page 35


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not understand what that means.  I am sorry,
     2        my Lord.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  I am just saying that I do not have to ask all the
     7        questions I would ask if there was a possibility that the
     8        person from Jarrets would be called.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think the way you should approach it is
    11        from this, that it appears as if you have a witness ---
    12
    13   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- and if you have a witness (and
    16        I understand you propose to call her), that is a much more
    17        positive position than wondering what you might get out of
    18        a witness called by the other side.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  We certainly are calling a witness.  That is just a
    21        fact.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why not concentrate on that.  If he says:  "I
    24        do not know", he cannot give evidence to gainsay whatever
    25        your witness may say.  Do you want to break off now and
    26        resume at five to two?
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will resume at five to two.
    31
    32                       (Luncheon Adjournment)
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:  You said that if a gut is accidentally punctured
    35        that the carcass would be washed.  Can you just describe
    36        how the carcass is washed?
    37        A.  In most abattoirs it passes past a shower, very modern
    38        showers with non-splash back panels, just to wash the
    39        carcass down with water.
    40
    41   Q.   So that would be about the same as standing in your shower
    42        at home or what; is that a similar type of thing?
    43        A.  Yes, but you have more than one direction of water.  If
    44        you stand in your shower at home it falls on top if you.
    45        If you wash a side of beef, it is coming at you from all
    46        angles.
    47
    48   Q.   Right.  Would the pressure be the same or what?
    49        A.  About the same, yes.
    50 
    51   Q.   About the same. 
    52        A.  Actually, compared with a shower at home it would be 
    53        higher because the shower at home cannot be run directly
    54        off the main hot water but industrially it can.  No, it
    55        would be a bit harder than a shower at home.
    56
    57   Q.   Higher pressure; is that cold or hot water?
    58        A.  Tepid.
    59
    60   Q.   Is that standard in all the abattoirs that supply

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