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2 If she is to make any reference, or place of reference to
3 or place any reliance on that piece of work when she comes
4 to give evidence, I give notice that if she is going to
5 pray in aid what is written in that document, any of the
6 well over a hundred references which it contains, I require
7 to have copies of them before she gives evidence; and when
8 I say "before", I do not mean as she climbs into the
9 witness box.
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11 I say that for this reason, that if that does not happen,
12 then once again I shall have to ask your Lordship for leave
13 to postpone her cross-examination to some future date.
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15 I can show your Lordship the document.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What appeared to me, looking at Miss Dibb and
18 Miss Gallatley, Miss Gallatley appears to me to be partly
19 in a different category to Miss Dibb, because her support
20 for some, if not all, of the propositions she put forward
21 is her own experience going around and speaking in
22 schools. She is entitled to tell us about that, and you
23 can test it in cross-examination to see whether it is
24 reliable.
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26 Miss Dibb, it had occurred to me, was in a rather different
27 position, because she suggests that research and/or her own
28 inquiries demonstrate a number of propositions, which she
29 sets out.
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31 Therefore, it had occurred to me that, which is really the
32 point you are making, in so far as she is going to -- it is
33 not just a question of in so far as she is going to pray in
34 aid the research, but in so far as she may make a statement
35 and then, when asked for the support of it, may refer to
36 some paper or research, we should have a copy of it.
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38 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We should have a copy of it, because
41 Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris may want her to refer to it to
42 support her statement. Even if they do not have it in mind
43 to do that, we should have a copy, because you may wish to
44 look at it to see whether it, in fact, supports what she
45 says. That is your point, is it?
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47 MR. RAMPTON: Absolutely. I notice that, as one of the
48 footnotes to her statement for these proceedings, she does
49 mention that paper publication that I referred to.
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51 I have made a list of those of her references that I know
52 that I require, never mind whether she would wish them to
53 be referred to or not.
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55 But my suggestion is that we should be given copies of
56 anything else besides to which she may wish to make
57 reference in support of what she says in that paper or in
58 the witness box.
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60 MR. MORRIS: As far as I was aware, if there is a public
