Day 119 - 02 May 95 - Page 52
1 MR. MORRIS: I will make an objection to Mr. Rampton making
2 objection.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, you cannot do that. He is entitled
5 to -----
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7 MR. MORRIS: I think the witness should leave the room.
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just calm down.
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11 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Morris, is making false point. I did not ask
12 Mr. Nicholson about this section. I asked him about the
13 section to do with, I think it is, guidelines and
14 responsibilities which is an earlier section, and the bit
15 about communication, but I think it was guidelines and
16 responsibility, which is in section 3, page 130. I checked
17 to see whether I asked him about this and I certainly do
18 not think that I did.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I remember the point on page 130 because you
21 were asking about notice boards ---
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23 MR. RAMPTON: Notice boards, yes, exactly.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- in relation to that. I do not remember,
26 Mr. Morris ---
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28 MR. MORRIS: All right, fair enough. I apologise.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- Mr. Nicholson saying that it was -----
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32 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do ask that when I stand up to make an
33 objection Mr. Morris should observe the ordinary etiquette
34 of the court which is to sit down. He may think it is a
35 rotten point I am making and, if I am, your Lordship will
36 tell him so.
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, it is not a Punch and Judy show. The
39 point is if someone stands up, then it is best just to sit
40 down, let them get on with it. If you think it is totally
41 ridiculous, the point they have made, then tell me that
42 when they sit down and you can stand up. You have to show
43 a bit of control or it gets a bit like a cuckoo clock, but
44 try to follow that procedure.
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46 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): So, as far as it says: " ... not
47 making statements or disclose to any person, including
48 press, radio and media representatives, any information
49 relating to the Company, its business or affairs, its
50 customs or finances", does that apply equally to any
51 outside organisation or is that specifically geared just to
52 the media and trade unions?
53 A. No. It says -----
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is it geared to trade unions at all, so far
56 as you are aware?
57 A. No, it would include trade unions but it is not geared
58 to trade unions; they are an outside body, but no more than
59 to any other outside body.
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