Day 143 - 27 Jun 95 - Page 41


     
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     2   Q.   OK.  Then we will move on from that then.  If we go to
     3        No. 144, please, or 44 in your -----
     4        A.  The same book?
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     6   Q.   I think it should be.
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The very last document in that volume, 44.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  This is headed:  "Euro Bulletin of the
    11        International Union of Food Brokers", yes?
    12        A.  Yes, I see that at the top.
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    14   Q.   This is March 1990 issue, it says on the front.  Then if
    15        you go on to the second page, it talks about under Germany
    16        collective agreements covering food catering chains.  It
    17        says about annual reduction of working hours has been won
    18        in the form of four additional days of paid leave and then
    19        various other matters, including holiday bonuses, paid
    20        training and educational leave, positive action programmes
    21        for women and things like that.
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    23   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am sorry to stand up yet again, but we
    24        are going through exactly the same exercise.
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    26   MR. MORRIS:  I am just trying to summarise it without quoting
    27        it.
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    29   MR. RAMPTON:  I know, but it is the wrong way of doing it.  My
    30        Lord -- please, Mr. Morris -- I have read that passage from
    31        Phipson it must be at least three or four times during the
    32        course of this case.
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    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I know you do not find it too difficult
    35        because on several occasions you have observed the proper
    36        procedure.
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    38   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  We do have a witness from the International
    39        Union of Food -----
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    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It does not matter; we have not got to this
    42        witness yet.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  What is more, my Lord, I have read Mr. Dan
    45        Gallin's statement; it has nothing about this in it.
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    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But it would not matter one way or the other
    48        because I cannot tell what evidence -- I can have an idea
    49        what evidence might or might not be called, but I cannot be
    50        certain what it is going to be until I hear it.  All you 
    51        have to do, as has been explained, is give Mr. Stein the 
    52        opportunity to get up to speed by reading it is -- it is 
    53        only three short paragraphs -- and then ask him, "Is it
    54        right that?" or "Was there an annual reduction etc. as a
    55        result of the agreement?" whatever it is you are hoping
    56        that Mr. Stein may be able to verify.
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    58   MR. MORRIS:  Can you read that section?
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    60   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I add this:  It is not right (and

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