Day 066 - 14 Dec 94 - Page 46
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2 Q. Yes.
3 A. We now have a local supplier in El Salvador.
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5 Q. What I was going to ask was, not having a map here, would
6 that beef have been transported on its feet or would it
7 have been ---
8 A. No.
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10 Q. -- killed in Guatemala?
11 A. No -- yes, it is processed in Guatemala. There is no
12 -- we do not transport any live animals.
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14 Q. If we take the next lot at a run, if we may, if you do not
15 mind, that is Puerto Rico (which is S), Ciraco (which is
16 T), Venezuela (which is U) and Cuba (which is V), they seem
17 to be in all same handwriting, do you see that?
18 A. Yes.
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20 Q. What is that reason for that?
21 A. Because I wrote those.
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23 Q. On the basis of what information?
24 A. I based it -- I know the plants, the facilities and
25 they are imported products which are located in the US.
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27 Q. All their raw material come from the United States?
28 A. That is correct.
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30 Q. So then we can turn over to W which is Finland? One
31 notices here (and it is the only point to which I draw your
32 attention), apart from the fact that the raw material seem
33 to be all Finnish, that the pigs are stunned with C02. Do
34 you see that?
35 A. Yes, I do.
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37 Q. Can I ask you, from most of these in this batch of
38 documents, most of the pigs are stunned electrically. Can
39 I ask you, from the animal welfare point of view, whether
40 you see any advantage in using carbon dioxide as a stunning
41 method?
42 A. In the end it will result in the same effect of
43 rendering the animal senseless ---
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45 Q. Yes?
46 A. -- unconscious. I am a little concerned with the use
47 of C02 in a facility ----
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49 Q. Sorry, can you speak up a bit?
50 A. I have some reservations about the use of C02 because
51 it can cause some leaks, you can have some leaks, and it is
52 difficult to smell it. So, there is an added risk for
53 humans when you are dealing with C02 in a facility.
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55 Q. But what about from the animal's point of view?
56 A. From the animal's point of view, either one is fine.
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58 Q. What happens with a C02 stunning? How does it work on the
59 animal?
60 A. The animal goes through a chamber where the oxygen is
