Day 175 - 18 Oct 95 - Page 44


     
     1        A.  I knew better not to.  I already had a -- I already
     2        knew that McDonald's did not have trade unions.
     3
     4   Q.   How did you know that?
     5        A.  Because -- I do not know, I just did know.
     6
     7   Q.   Somebody told you, I expect; is that right?
     8        A.  Probably.  Well, it was the case.
     9
    10   Q.   Who was the Manager?
    11        A.  I cannot remember his name.
    12
    13   Q.   It was a him, was it?
    14        A.  It was.
    15
    16   Q.   You cannot remember his name?
    17        A.  That is what I just said.
    18
    19   Q.   I know it is what you said.  Was it the Store Manager?
    20        A.  It was not, no.  The Store Manager was Sue.
    21
    22   Q.   Sue?
    23        A.  I do not remember her surname.
    24
    25   Q.   How long was she Store Manager for?
    26        A.  She was the Store Manager when I arrived, I do not know
    27        how long she had been the Manager at that time, and she was
    28        a Manager for at least a year while I was there.
    29
    30   Q.   Are there any people, crew members, Managers, Assistant
    31        Managers, floor managers, whose surnames you are going to
    32        be able to give us or not?
    33        A.  I think one of the floor managers was called Patrick
    34        Green.
    35
    36   Q.   What about ----
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How do you spell that?
    39        A.  G-R-E-E-N.  We never used their surnames, so their
    40        first names is the name that I remember.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  You were there for what, three years?
    43        A.  That is right.
    44
    45   Q.   You really did not get to know people's surnames?
    46        A.  I said we did not use their surnames.
    47
    48   Q.   No, I asked you whether you got to know them or not?
    49        A.  I would have known them, but I never used them.
    50 
    51   Q.   Do you remember the surnames of the people that were in 
    52        your trade union activist group, the five of you -- I think 
    53        it was four full-timers and one part-timer?
    54        A.   I can remember the name of two of them:  Mark James
    55        and James Ray.
    56
    57   Q.   James Ray -- do we spell that R-A-Y?
    58        A.  That is right; R-A-Y.
    59
    60   Q.   Were they full-timers or part-timers?

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