Day 171 - 11 Oct 95 - Page 23


     
     1        (because it is done by questions) has changed a bit over
     2        the years.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL: But the Putney one was the One Every Mile?
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  I think it was, yes.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  A big question mark over how realistic that
     9        is.
    10
    11   MR. RAMPTON:  It may not have had actually to do with One Every
    12        Mile, but it was in the One Every Mile file, and that is
    13        how it came into court.  One Every Mile was, I think,
    14        Croydon and the Strand.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is what puzzled me about Putney.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  It is just by way of example, that is all.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  Point 10, the clock card computer sheets for sample
    21        periods.  Now, the reason we added in by hand "for named
    22        people" was only because the impression we had been given
    23        was that it was one person per day, and, obviously, we did
    24        not want to apply for 1,000 documents unnecessarily.  But
    25        it now appears that the clock card computer sheets do have
    26        whatever it is, 20 or so people, each day, so it is not the
    27        amount of documents that we thought it would be.  So we are
    28        applying for the full sheets; and of course blanking out
    29        names would be completely unnecessary in terms of reducing
    30        the number of documents, as well as for all the other
    31        reasons we said, and would in fact lead to extra work for
    32        the Plaintiffs, in any event.  We have specified the second
    33        two weeks in August -----
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me just make sure I have this straight,
    36        because I found it confusing when Mr. Richards was giving
    37        evidence.  What you are being offered -- query for what
    38        period or periods -- are the schedules, call them work
    39        schedules ---
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:  That is the weekly ones, yes.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- clock card sheets, but not weekly time
    44        sheets -- Mr. Rampton raised no objection to adjustment
    45        audit reports; he queried how much it would help -- and the
    46        excessive hour reports.  Have I missed anything?
    47
    48   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, not so far as I am concerned.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  This is referring to 7 to 11, is it not? 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, 7 and 8 ----- 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  10 and 11.  Again, it is the busy period that we
    55        are seeking.  If the clock cards computer sheets have been
    56        in place since 1991, or certainly for some substantial time
    57        -- and I cannot remember where I heard this, but I think
    58        Mr. Richards said that they would be kept for certain for
    59        years, the clock card computer records; I think they have
    60        to be kept, by law, for -- I cannot remember how long he

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