Day 105 - 16 Mar 95 - Page 42


     
     1        day.
     2
     3   Q.   There is no form during the day apart from this one?
     4        A.  No.  In one case -- I happen to know currently that the
     5        boning room supervisor keeps his forms in a plastic wrapper
     6        in his department and the slaughterhouse supervisor keeps
     7        his forms in his office.
     8
     9   Q.   So if the supervisor was filling in a form during the day,
    10        this would be the form he would be filling in while
    11        checking, if he is checking the meat temperatures?
    12        A.  This is his record of his day's work.
    13
    14   Q.   Which he would fill in as he was going along?
    15        A.  No, that would be usual.  I mean, the quality control
    16        checks are by quality controllers.  They are in the
    17        department all day, and again it must be said they may
    18        decide to fill the form in at the end of the day.  They are
    19        there to authorise they have done it.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  One knows that they have done it.
    22        A.  Yes.  If there is a note which needs to be taken they
    23        will take it.
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, one can see their names at the top of
    26        page 2.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I appreciate that.  I am a bit confused by
    29        why they should wait until end of the day rather than fill
    30        in at 6.30, 7.30 and 7.00 and so on?
    31        A.  It is something of a mystery.  A lot of these employees
    32        are not great form fillers.  It is no small educational job
    33        to get them to fill forms in on what is a fairly new
    34        system.  As a personal point, I am happy to accept their
    35        signature and their authorisation that they have, in fact,
    36        carried out the checks on that particular day.  They have
    37        their own ways of holding the information.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  People do not like carrying out these checks and
    40        then filling in forms?
    41        A.  Some do and some do not.  I cannot go further than
    42        that.  Personally, filling forms in is not my favourite
    43        occupation; some people quite enjoy filling forms in.
    44
    45   MS. STEEL:  You said that people doing the checks have their own
    46        way of holding information.  Where would they hold the
    47        information about temperature?
    48        A.  They would either hold it on in a notebook, or on an
    49        old ticket, or the back of a piece of cardboard.  There are
    50        weird and wonderful ways in which people jot down the 
    51        particular information which they can transfer to their 
    52        sheet. 
    53
    54   Q.   So they could have all these bits of scrap paper floating
    55        around in their pockets which at the end of the day ----
    56        A.  Only one on the day.  It is a way of life in the meat
    57        industry where a man is in control of a department with
    58        many things to see to, and who has got quite a complex
    59        operation.  It is just something that I have observed that
    60        their way of noting down information, whether it be

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