Day 193 - 28 Nov 95 - Page 35
1 given permission to see the union cards that are signed.
2 So, in actual fact, he does not know exactly who has signed
3 and who has not signed, by this. He can, you know, I guess
4 he can suspect that people sign, but I can tell you -----
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6 MR. MORRIS: Can I help the court at all?
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You can. It is up to you.
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10 MR. MORRIS: I might be, you know, on a different planet from
11 other people, but it is absolutely clear as day that
12 number 3 is referring to the whole bargaining unit, which
13 is all the workers in the store, 64 of which were under 18.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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17 MR. MORRIS: Number 6 says that none of those -- any of those
18 people who are under 18 that sign a union card, it is
19 invalid.
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am not on that point at all.
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23 MR. MORRIS: Oh, right.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am merely asking -- you see, there is
26 something I have been asked to read, that 64 of 102 persons
27 in the proposed bargaining unit are under the age of
28 majority, and 67 people signed. It does not say that 64 of
29 the 67 who signed; it says 64 of the 102. But I just
30 wanted to check whether there was any question that as many
31 as 64 of the 67 were under 18. I have the answer of
32 Miss Inglis.
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34 MR. MORRIS: Yes. (To the witness): I will just read it out,
35 I mean, in the statement Bonnie McLelland. Maybe the rest
36 the court wants to go to it. I do not think the witness
37 can find it.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Give us the reference.
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41 MR. MORRIS: It is Bonnie McLelland. I have got her as page 14
42 in the document, but I might have a different numbering
43 system because they have changed round.
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you mean in the -----
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47 MR. MORRIS: In the witnesses for the Plaintiffs, the Civil
48 Evidence Act witnesses.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is yellow XIII. Can you help, Mr. Riley?
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52 MS. STEEL: She is actually the third from last in my bundle.
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yellow XIII, please, and divider 44. If you
55 turn back past Mr. Wong and Angie Hall, you come to
56 Bonnie McLelland, if you start at the very back.
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58 MR. MORRIS: I do not know what number it is.
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have numbered mine.
