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     1        had a percentage of recycled content but you cannot --
     2        well, do you know when they began to have a recycled
     3        content and how much it was?
     4        A.  Not specifically on both questions.
     5
     6   Q.   Specifically on either?
     7        A.  No.
     8
     9   Q.   So what makes you think that prior to January 1991 they had
    10        a percentage of recycled content?  Is that just something
    11        you have been told by somebody?
    12        A.  The supplier told us.   You can also tell in the case
    13        of napkins by the colour; it is not a pure white colour
    14        which would have come from a virgin paper.
    15
    16   Q.   You have mentioned again that legislation requires that no
    17        recycled paper can be in contact with food.  Is that
    18        something from your own knowledge or is that something you
    19        have been told by your suppliers?
    20        A.  We were told this by the supplier, and certainly since
    21        1991 this would have been an issue that was picked up by
    22        Perseco and not the McDonald's Purchasing Department.
    23
    24   Q.   Why?
    25        A.  Because they took over responsibility for providing a
    26        packaging purchasing service to McDonald's in 1990.
    27
    28   Q.   I have asked about the two and four-hole trays.
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   Q.   You are relying on information from suppliers.  In the
    32        publicity that you put out about McDonald's use of recycled
    33        paper, would I be right in saying that none of that
    34        publicity has mentioned the trays being made from 100 per
    35        cent recycled paper?
    36        A.  I am not sure what publicity you are referring to.  Do
    37        you have a document you are referring to?
    38
    39   Q.   The leaflets that you have put out; the one I am looking
    40        at, in fact, it only mentions take-away bags, I think, but
    41        there was another one as well in pink Volume V.
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   Q.   The recycling of facts leaflet.
    45        A.  Without going through the all the leaflets, I could not
    46        be sure about that.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not think you need to put them to
    49        Mr. Oakley.  If you have made a check yourself and you have
    50        not found it, in due course you can take me to some of them 
    51        and say:  "Look, there is no mention of trays there" and 
    52        ask me to draw whatever conclusion you think is sensible 
    53        from that.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  Right.  I think it may have appeared in more recent
    56        documents within the last year or so.  In the 1980s that
    57        would have been the only item, would it not, that was made
    58        substantially of recycled paper?
    59        A.  I think in the early 1980s that is true.
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