Day 143 - 27 Jun 95 - Page 43
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2 MR. MORRIS: I am sorry.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is in bundle 5, yes.
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6 MR. MORRIS: Another IUF document -----
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8 MR. RAMPTON: No.
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10 MR. MORRIS: There is no harm in saying it is an IUF document.
11 I am not quoting from it.
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13 MR. RAMPTON: It is harm. My Lord, the source of the document
14 lends no weight to its authority. It has nothing to do
15 with this case whatsoever.
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17 MR. MORRIS: I did not say it lent it any authority. I was just
18 identifying it. (To the witness): If you read the section
19 on the Federal Republic of Germany?
20 A. Can you help me find where that is?
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22 Q. Sorry, it is -----
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The fourth sheet has something to do with
25 that. Is that the page you want, Mr. Morris?
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27 MR. MORRIS: Yes, please. (To the witness): Have you found
28 that?
29 A. Yes.
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31 Q. Under "Federal Republic of Germany"?
32 A. Yes.
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34 Q. This is in 1985.
35 A. Yes, OK.
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37 Q. Do you know anything about the percentage of employees in
38 Germany that were on the minimum rate?
39 A. No, I do not.
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41 Q. Or that are on the minimum rate now?
42 A. No, I do not.
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44 Q. It is not something that when you have discussions with
45 people around the world you enquire into what the actual
46 numbers of staff are that are getting the bare minimum at
47 McDonald's?
48 A. If your question is, am I aware of what it was in
49 Germany at that time, I really do not know if I did or
50 I did not. I have no recollection of knowing this.
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52 Q. Yes, but I am asking you a general question now. When you
53 travel around the world do you make enquiries on that kind
54 of detail on what percentage, for example, things like the
55 amount of employees that would be getting the bare minimum?
56 A. No, only if there was an issue, something had come up
57 that would be unusual. It would not be something that
58 would be in the ordinary course of my discussions. You
59 need to remember, Mr. Morris, I do not fully understand
60 their systems or how they do things in this kind of detail,
