Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 31
1 right, on wheels, so it was very possible that you move
2 around, in the rush to get the meat prepared you move
3 around, hit the trolley, it moves around and the top plate
4 comes off. It was easy to happen.
5
6 Q. Over the page to page 7, it says that regarding lack of
7 taxies for you, you might have been one of the employees
8 who lived on the route home of one of the Managers who
9 could have given you a lift. Do you have any comment about
10 that?
11 A. One of the Managers, as it happened, did live on the
12 same route as myself, but we were not always on the same
13 shift, evening shift, and it is really beside the point
14 anyway. I mean, it was not -----
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are not complaining about not getting a
17 taxi yourself because you are a man and it was only a 10
18 minute walk?
19 A. I was not complaining but I was concerned about
20 specially girls.
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22 Q. I understand that, but you are not complaining about your
23 own situation?
24 A. No.
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26 Q. So it would not matter whether there was a Manager going
27 your way or not?
28 A. That is correct. I would obviously have taken the
29 advantage of the opportunity if I was offered.
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31 MR. MORRIS: The rap sessions, just one point there, he says in
32 his third line: "We thought a fairer cross-section would
33 be achieved by asking whoever was working at the particular
34 time scheduled of the session to attend if they wanted
35 to." Do you have any comment on that?
36 A. Yes. I do not know how it can be; I mean, people were
37 scheduled to work not because it was, you know, a fair
38 cross-section of people to work on that shift, but it was
39 because they had -- because of other reasons, other
40 factors. So, I cannot really work out how it could have
41 been that people on the shift could have represented a fair
42 cross-section of the workers anyway.
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44 In any case, it did not happen that way at all. You were
45 either dispensable and you could go on the rap session,
46 attend the rap sessions, or you were on your break and
47 there is no way that if you were needed in the kitchen you
48 could have gone to a rap session, absolutely no way.
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50 Q. On point 17 he says, third line: "It is policy to treat
51 the close as midnight." Then he says: "Managers would
52 allow a five-minute break if the close did not take place
53 until 1 a.m." Have you any experience with Mark Davis on
54 that shift?
55 A. I have had closes, I had closes when Mark was running
56 the shift, and we never had a break after close. It was in
57 the -- it was exactly the opposite. If any other Manager
58 or Floor Manager was or happened to be running the shift
59 and gave us a five-minute break, they would have asked us
60 not to mention it to Mark because he would have objected to
