Day 192 - 27 Nov 95 - Page 38


     
     1        paper.
     2        A.  One of those place mats.
     3
     4   Q.   Did you write it down word for word, or did you summarise
     5        it?
     6        A.  No.  I wrote it down word for word.
     7
     8   Q.   Word for word?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   So, this is what you saw from what the management put up?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Was this on the same piece of paper as the
    15        cartoon?
    16        A.  Yes.  It was at the bottom of it.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  So, there were about five different drawings, were
    19        there; each one had a fact with part of them; or one
    20        drawing with it all underneath?
    21        A.  I think there was, like, maybe two facts per drawing,
    22        because they were fairly large pieces of paper.
    23
    24   Q.   So, fact number 1: "The average hourly wage of two major
    25        unionised competitors in Ontario are significantly lower
    26        than hours." Do you know of any -----
    27        A.  That is false, that statement, because there are
    28        Wendy's and, I believe, Swiss Chalets that are organised by
    29        unions in Ontario, that they make at least twice our wage.
    30
    31   Q.   Lower down, if you look at number 3, it says: "The union
    32        does not know the first thing about quick service
    33        restaurants.  They have no existing agreements with any of
    34        our competitors."  Is that -----
    35        A.  This particular union may not, but other unions do.
    36
    37   Q.   Oh, I see.  The second one:  "The union seeks to replace
    38        our flexible policies with their inflexible rules."  Did
    39        the union seek to impose flexible rules or replace
    40        McDonald's rules with inflexible rules?
    41        A.  No.
    42
    43   Q.   So that is not true, then?
    44        A.  That is not true.
    45
    46   Q.   Then the last fact: "The union cannot guarantee job
    47        security, or anything, for that matter."  What is your
    48        comment about that?
    49        A.  You have more job security with a union because, in
    50        Ontario, the way the system works is, if you feel you have 
    51        been fired unjustly, you can go to the Labour Board and 
    52        have them work it out for you, but it takes about three 
    53        years, because it is so overpacked with people and
    54        complaints.  So, with a union, you can negotiate without
    55        the Labour Board right away, if it is just a violation of a
    56        contract or whatever.  But, I mean, that is why I wanted
    57        the union, was for job security, so that you cannot be
    58        fired for unjust causes.
    59
    60   Q.   That was the management's, one of the management's

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