Day 286 - 24 Oct 96 - Page 28
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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4 MR. MORRIS: And the Tozey map, we would say obviously we are
5 concerned about all tropical forests including what may be
6 a misnomer, dry forest, which is in fact, and evidence was
7 heard on that, as being more of the character of forest
8 that we know and understand here. But in terms of moist
9 forests, and remember that John Carriere said in fact that
10 the sub-categories in the life zones of rainforest
11 definition are not as species rich as the wet forests, and
12 it seems, without playing silly games all round, that while
13 we are concerned with all forest types, all the moist
14 forest types have an unusual character which is special to
15 tropical regions. In fact, even the dry forests are
16 defined on the Tozey map as tropical dry forests, so they
17 have a particular tropical character.
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19 And the whole of the San Isidro region, however far you
20 want to draw the line, left/right, north or south, is all
21 moist forest type, in terms of life zone characteristics.
22 It is moist forest. The majority of it is wet forest or
23 pre-montain or lower montain rain, or lower montain wet or
24 whatever. The point being that it is all defined, as it
25 was defined for Mr. Cesca, as rain or wet forest.
26 And that area, McDonald's have admitted that twenty percent
27 of their supplies came from that area.
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29 And the next map I was going to refer to, of course, are
30 the deforestation, progressive deforestation maps of which
31 the most detailed -- well, there was two; there was the one
32 supplied by John Carriere and the one in the book, Tropical
33 Rainforests Yesterday Today and Tomorrow, page 167, which
34 should be behind his statement, although it was served at a
35 different time.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Behind John Carriere's statement?
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39 MR. MORRIS: There was one behind John Carriere's statement
40 that he had written on with arrows which looked like this.
41 But there was another one, which was an extract from a book
42 which I think we worked from because it was more detailed,
43 there was a series of five rather than three progressive
44 deforestation maps.
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46 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, there were, I think, indeed three maps,
47 all produced by the defendants. One was by Sader and
48 Joyce. I cannot give the reference because they are the
49 defendants' documents.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What was the first name again?
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53 MR. RAMPTON: Sader, it is S-a-d-e-r. And Joyce was the second
54 name. Showing all the relevant areas which have been
55 deforested at different dates, including up to 1961. That
56 does not give any specificity of type of forest.
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58 Then there are the maps from the Tropical Science Centre
59 book to which Mr. Morris has been referring, the Tozey
60 maps, which show more or less the same thing. Then there
