Day 276 - 09 Jul 96 - Page 15


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Turn on from your letter and the penultimate
     2        sheet in that section, if it is the same as mine.  No,
     3        turn?
     4        A.  Backwards.
     5
     6   Q.   No, forwards, please.
     7        A.  Well, in this particular section mine is the last
     8        letter, there is my letter and there is one -- what are you
     9        looking for and let me see if I can find it.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a letter dated 7th December from David
    12        Walker to Roberto Gadente (handed).
    13
    14   MS. STEEL:  If you just have a read of that, please?
    15        A.  I have not seen this before but I have now read it.
    16
    17   Q.   Right, okay.  That does not refresh your memory, that
    18        Braslo did do business with Anglo or anything like that?
    19        A.  That was not my job.
    20
    21   Q.   Okay?
    22        A.  And I would not know who Anglo did business with.
    23
    24   Q.   Okay.  I have got no further questions.  Thank you.
    25
    26                       Cross-examined by Mr. Morris
    27
    28   Q.   The 80, 85 per cent, whatever it was, of cattle that you
    29        bought from in from around nearer to the plant, that would
    30        have been fattened in that area but come from you do not
    31        know where.  Would it be fair to say that you were just
    32        taking cattle in the normal way that any business would be
    33        taking cattle from that area; you did not have any
    34        specific...?   Do you know what I am saying?  What I am
    35        saying is that if the industry standard was--
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just let me interrupt for a moment.  You say
    38        200,000 cattle were killed at Barretos?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    41   Q.   Then I thought you said about 20,000 came from your own
    42        farms?
    43        A.  Yes.
    44
    45   Q.   Then later, did I hear you say 20 per cent?
    46        A.  No, I said 20 give or take.  I mean, it is ten per cent
    47        give or take.  But our total turn off from our farms is
    48        approximately 20,000, and that would go to Barretos.  So
    49        some years it might be good and some years it might be bad,
    50        and some years they might not kill 200,000, some years they
    51        might kill 150 and some years they might kill 110.
    52
    53   MR. MORRIS:  It is a rough guide?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   My question was very badly phrased.  What I am saying is,
    57        that there are similar plants to Barretos dotted around San
    58        Paulo; is that correct?
    59        A.  Yes.
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