Day 009 - 08 Jul 94 - Page 44
1 A. Correct. It is not a flat surface. A pulp tray is a
tray with the recessed pockets for drinks.
2
Q. Right, OK. The food trays are plastic; is that right?
3 A. The plastic trays, if you were to go to our restaurant
and order a meal and bring it back to your seat in the
4 restaurant, would be a plastic tray roughly the size of,
what, two feet wide and a foot and a half deep covered
5 with the tray liner.
6 Q. Right. The tray liners have usually some promotion or
something like that on them, have they not?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. So that is one of the purposes of the tray liner?
A. Yes.
9
Q. I think in 1990 you said that was when the polystyrene
10 recycling scheme was underway in a large number of stores,
is that right, or was it 1989?
11 A. We had started our polystyrene recycling test in 1989,
and it went all the way through towards the end of 1990,
12 yes.
13 Q. Was that financed in any way by the national polystyrene
recycling coalition?
14 A. No.
15 Q. It was not?
A. No. The way that was financed is through, well, we
16 had to pay for McDonald's. The cost to McDonald's in
simplistic terms was the extra transportation to cart the
17 materials to the recycling centre, and we had to make
arrangements with hauliers to pick it up and then pay for
18 their services. We also had to pay for the educational
materials in separate bins. Again all that money was paid
19 for by McDonald's.
20 We received -- just to complete the cycle -- we would have
our polystyrene delivered to the recycling centre, and at
21 points in time it had some value by the national poly
recycling company. I recall at one point in time they
22 agreed to pay us three cents per pound, but that was not
financing, that was a matter of what material was worth to
23 them as a raw material for the recycling process.
24 Q. OK. We heard from Mr. Kouchoukos that McDonald's has used
incineration as a method of waste disposal of polystyrene?
25 A. That is not what you heard from Mr. Kouchoukos. What
you heard was the fact that in the United States today as
26 we speak, roughly 10 to 13 per cent of the municipal solid
waste stream is incinerated. Obviously, whatever portion
27 of McDonald's waste that is in the waste stream, that
would follow the path, the same path.
28
Q. Were there not some stores that set up, I think they were
29 called Archie McPuffs for incineration on store?
A. Yes, we conducted some tests in the late 1980s. We
30 had a two store test. We had an on site incinerator on
two of our restaurants. What we were testing at that time
