Day 277 - 10 Jul 96 - Page 32


     
     1        A.  Not very often.
     2
     3   Q.   How often roughly, once a month?
     4        A.  Less than that.
     5
     6   Q.   Often enough, however, to recognise him as what I might
     7        call one of the old hands, yes?
     8        A.  Well, I am not quite sure what you mean by that.  I
     9        mean, I have known Mr. Morris for, as I say, about 12
    10        years, so obviously at that time I knew him quite well and
    11        I was aware that he had been in London Greenpeace for, you
    12        know, going back several years.
    13
    14   Q.   Perhaps you would not disagree with Mr. Gravett, 'elder
    15        statesman' is quite an appropriate description is it not?
    16        A.  I obviously--
    17
    18   Q.   Leave the 'statesman' out if you want?
    19        A.  When Mr. Gravett said that, I actually don't know what
    20        an elder statesman is.
    21
    22   Q.   It means a senior figure whose views are listened to with
    23        respect by more junior members of the pack, if I can put it
    24        like that; do you agree with that?
    25        A.  Everybody's views would be listened to with respect.
    26        Nobody, as you put it to Mr. Gravett, deferred to anybody
    27        else.
    28
    29   Q.   Now then, I would like to have a more detailed look, if we
    30        may, at the Clare photographs, please, Miss Steel.  They
    31        are, I think, behind his statement in yellow 2 tab 5.  Can
    32        you turn to -- sorry, I am a bit slow, can you turn to
    33        photograph No. 5 please?  And I remind you that the date
    34        printed on the photograph is 6th March 1990.  Is there
    35        anything in these photographs which makes you doubt that
    36        date is accurate?
    37        A.  I don't know.
    38
    39   Q.   Notice, please, in this photograph at the bottom of the
    40        door there is one of those world anti-McDonald's day
    41        posters is there not?
    42        A.  We--
    43
    44   Q.   And then there is something else about McDonald's partly
    45        obscured by the chair about the same level?
    46        A.  It looks like an old fayre poster.
    47
    48   Q.   Yes.  Just notice in passing, it is a small point but I
    49        shall be coming back to it later, above the chair on the
    50        board which is blue?
    51        A.  I think it is something behind the window.
    52
    53   Q.   What?
    54        A.  I think the blue is something behind the window.
    55
    56   Q.   May be it is a blind or whatever.  There is a picture of
    57        somebody wearing what looks like a paramilitary fayre
    58        uniform is there not?
    59        A.  I do not know about uniform, it is someone who looks
    60        like he has got a camouflage jacket on carrying a pig.

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