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     1        which describes the nature of the study, which basically
     2        also includes a comparison of the intakes and exposures of
     3        these subjects in China versus the UK or the US; and so
     4        there is some -- there is simply not a lot of -- I know the
     5        point of your question.  Your question really is, I think,
     6        you know, whether this book includes all the
     7        interpretations and discussions there from, and that sort
     8        of thing.  It does not include that.
     9
    10   Q.   Does it include any interpretations and discussions?
    11        A.  Just a small amount, yes.
    12
    13   MR. RAMPTON:  One question, you see, I was going to ask:  it is
    14        very difficult for us, whether one reads the chapter in the
    15        book that was a follow-up to your paper in American Journal
    16        of Clinical Nutrition, or whether one reads the original
    17        paper, it is very difficult for us to see what the data
    18        actually are, because they are not in -- they are
    19        summarised, but they are not either in the chapter or in
    20        the paper, are they, to a large extent?
    21        A.  They never are.  Almost no scientific publications have
    22        the original data; all you ever get is, basically, the
    23        summaries of those data.
    24
    25   Q.   I do not mean the raw data, no.  But what you have not got
    26        in either of those places to any great extent are the sorts
    27        of tables and graphs that we see when we look at other
    28        pieces of research?  I accept that this is a summary and it
    29        is not, as it were, a single study.
    30        A.  Right.
    31
    32   Q.   That is right.  But if I want to know, for example, what
    33        proportion of the female population in the 65 counties
    34        smoked cigarettes to any extent, I cannot find it, can I?
    35        A.  No.  There are two ways you can get those data.  You
    36        cannot get it out of the summary paper, because the
    37        summaries papers do not do that kind of thing, or very few
    38        summaries papers do that any place.  You have to go back to
    39        the original papers.  In our case, I would suggest that our
    40        data from the China project is more accessible than almost
    41        any studies ever been published.  So, I really would take
    42        exception to, I think, the direction of your question.
    43
    44   Q.   No, no, I have no sinister purpose at all, none at all, be
    45        assured.  It is mere ignorance.  Can you answer this
    46        question from memory:  do you happen to remember what
    47        proportion of females studied in your study smoked
    48        cigarettes heavily?
    49        A.  Yes -- about 11 per cent.
    50 
    51   Q.   Is that higher or lower than it is in the United States, 
    52        for example? 
    53        A.  Lower.
    54
    55   Q.   Well, what about consumption of alcohol amongst women in
    56        China?
    57        A.  Amongst women?
    58
    59   Q.   Yes.
    60        A.  Very low.

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