Day 174 - 17 Oct 95 - Page 21


     
     1        A.  We were not.  If you look at our communication of
     2        21st November, we said: "However, if you have any proposal
     3        to put to us in writing, we look forward to hearing from
     4        you."
     5
     6   Q.   But the union wanted to meet you; they wanted to represent
     7        their members.  They did not want to have a Mickey Mouse
     8        correspondence through the post, did they?
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where did it go?  Here we have got unions
    11        unhappy.  What did they do, Mr. Morris?  They have got the
    12        Labour Court recommendations.  They say that Mr. Mehigan's
    13        company is not doing what it ought to do.  Where did it go
    14        next?  It may be an important matter, because if McDonald's
    15        is anti-union, I may have to decide whether that makes one
    16        jot of difference to their workers' pay and conditions.
    17        Here we have got a Labour Court which has said union
    18        representation, so it may be interesting to see how it all
    19        ended.
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  We do not have the correspondence after that,
    22        so -----
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Why not ask the witness?  If you have a
    25        positive case to put to him about it, put it.  If you want
    26        to enquire of someone who is in the witness box and want
    27        him to give his account, do so.
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  What happened to this correspondence; after that
    30        last correspondence that we have got there, 10th December,
    31        what happened to that correspondence?
    32        A.  Sorry, what happened to which correspondence?
    33
    34   Q.   What happened following that correspondence?
    35        A.  Is your question: was there more correspondence?
    36
    37   Q.   Yes.
    38        A.  Not to my knowledge.
    39
    40   Q.   Were there more phone calls?
    41        A.  I cannot recall any more phone calls.
    42
    43   Q.   Did the Labour Court set up a conciliation hearing?
    44        A.  No, they did not.  I remember I have written to the
    45        Labour Court on 7th December, outlining again, OK, the
    46        details of what we did; and, in actual fact, I would like
    47        to quote from the letter: ".....that we have implemented
    48        the National Understanding in terms which actually exceed
    49        the National Understanding and which was accepted by our
    50        entire staff." 
    51 
    52   Q.   But it does not give any details, does it? 
    53        A.  That is correct, Mr. Morris, it does not.
    54
    55   Q.   All this correspondence was sent to Steve Copeland; yes?
    56        A.  Where he is shown to be copied, yes, it was.
    57
    58   Q.   He was still taking a continuing interest in the union
    59        dispute?
    60        A.  Well, he was -- as I indicated already, he was taking

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