Day 142 - 26 Jun 95 - Page 40


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, if it is the Rosy Fisher (indecipherable)
     2        allegation, it is 114 on page 40, if that is what
     3        Mr. Morris is looking for.  I do not know.
     4
     5   MR. MORRIS:  I think that kind of summarises the main thrust.
     6        A.  Which one?
     7
     8   Q.   114.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Page 40.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  I will just read it out.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not read it out necessarily.  Ask
    15        Mr. Stein if he would like to read it through so that he is
    16        up to speed on it, and then you put what you want to put.
    17        What do you want to ask, Mr. Morris?
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  You visited Germany, you said, throughout the 80s,
    20        was it, at different times?
    21        A.  At different times during the 80s, yes.
    22
    23   Q.   If you want to go to Eva Marie Sachse's statement which is
    24        No. 17 in the yellow XIII?
    25        A.  Her statement is where?
    26
    27   Q.   In fact, she is the first one, No. 17, in that bundle?
    28        A.  OK.
    29
    30   Q.   If you look at the second page of her statement, paragraph
    31        5, it says:  "Before I took over responsibility for
    32        Personnel on a nationwide basis throughout Germany in 1986,
    33        the relationship between McDonald's Deutschland Inc. and
    34        the NGG union was not good.  There were a number of
    35        conflicts in various regions, specifically in North-Rhine
    36        Westphalia, which are often fought out in the media.
    37
    38        These conflicts usually concerned the founding of employee
    39        representation bodies in individual restaurants (the
    40        so-called works councils.)"  Were you aware of these
    41        conflicts?
    42        A.  I had some some general information, yes.  The German
    43        company would, essentially, manage its own affairs.  It has
    44        a Human Resource function.  I do not speak the language, so
    45        it puts me at a disadvantage.  But they do have (and they
    46        have had for some time) their own organisation that deals
    47        primarily with all of this, but I would have some knowledge
    48        having visited there.
    49
    50   Q.   Works councils are legally compulsory organisations in 
    51        Germany, yes, that the right to elect works councils in 
    52        workplaces? 
    53        A.  My understanding is if the proper procedures are
    54        followed, they are part of the makeup of the German labour
    55        laws and how they work in Germany.
    56
    57   Q.   Employers have to follow the proper procedures by law?
    58        A.  Oh, I think everybody has to follow the proper
    59        procedures.
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