Day 180 - 31 Oct 95 - Page 42
1 A. Indeed.
2
3 Q. It is £3 an hour at that time for provincial which, in
4 fact, the chart above it was relating to provincial?
5 A. Yes. I mean, even the premium rate out of London for
6 McDonald's, even the premium Outer London rate, is only
7 just on the general sales assistant lower quartile
8 nationally.
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10 Q. There is just one other document I would like to put to
11 you.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a minute. Does your experience of
14 the industry enable you to tell me, because we have in the
15 past had some debate as to how McDonald's crew are best
16 reflected by other descriptions, what is the difference
17 between a general sales assistant and a sales person?
18 A. None whatsoever. If you look at page 6 -----
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20 Q. There is a difference because they have different rates of
21 pay?
22 A. Yes, but I am referring to page 6, my Lord, because
23 this question is actually answered on page 6.
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25 Q. Yes.
26 A. General sales assistant. The categories of staff
27 heading? It says: "Duties include assisting customers to
28 select goods and may include stocking shelves, equivalent
29 to our crew level employee, equivalent to our crew level
30 employee". This is why it is a relevant job category and,
31 indeed, McDonald's accepts the comparator.
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33 Q. Why do you say that?
34 A. Well, because of what I have just read out in the
35 second line of that, it is equivalent to crew level
36 employee, that is, this is a McDonald's document.
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38 Q. I see.
39 A. They are saying it is equivalent to our ------
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41 Q. Let me make a note.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I have lost where the reference was to
44 -- it is probably, what the date was when the survey was
45 made.
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47 MR. MORRIS: I do not know if it said so.
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It does -- I do not think it says on the
50 sheets but we may have had some, but I cannot remember
51 whether ......
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53 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have a note that it is 1993.
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55 MR. MORRIS: I think, yes, it might be or 1992 because -----
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57 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have a note that it says 1993.
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59 MR. MORRIS: McDonald's wage in 1992 was £3 provincial starting
60 rate, so that coincides to this one.
