Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 19
1 Q. I was going to ask what you what the implications were, for
2 example, for a paper bag that is supposed to carry food in
3 it?
4 A. Yes.
5
6 Q. I think you have answered me; if the fibres are too short
7 the food will fall through it -- is that basically what
8 happens?
9 A. Yes.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The good quality, does that depend, if you
12 get paper which is created from recycled material of which
13 this is the first recycling, then it will be higher quality
14 than if it is of something which, part of which at least,
15 may have been recycled several times before?
16 A. Yes. For instance, if you were to use newspaper,
17 newsprint, which already contains quite a high percentage
18 of recycled material, you would tend to find shorter fibres
19 in that. If you can use office waste which is printed
20 computer paper, for instance, that generally tends to be
21 non-recycled. Then you can -----
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I understand. I had not appreciated the
24 point. Yes?
25
26 MR. RAMPTON: Perhaps I should ask you this: One sees here a
27 whole list of different kinds of packaging, yes?
28 A. Yes.
29
30 Q. Are they all sourced -- this is for the United Kingdom --
31 within the UK or do they come from other countries?
32 A. The carry-out bags are sourced in the UK.
33
34 Q. That is Smith Anderson?
35 A. That is Smith Anderson in Scotland. The folding
36 cartons are sourced partially -- so that is everywhere
37 where you see 72 per cent behind it -- they are sourced
38 partially in Spain, partially in Germany, but made all of
39 the same raw material.
40
41 Q. Which is what, is it that top colour?
42 A. That is the top colour, yes, and the napkins are at
43 that time sourced partially -- at two suppliers, both
44 located in the UK.
45
46 Q. Both in the UK?
47 A. Yes.
48
49 Q. Could you go back to the statement you originally made for
50 these proceedings and turn, please, to your Exhibit CVE 2
51 which is a report headed: Perseco Europe Packaging
52 Material Use McDonald's in Europe 1992 which, you tell us,
53 in your statement you did which is a much more detailed
54 version of what you had done in the previous year; is that
55 right?
56 A. Yes.
57
58 Q. Have you now taken to doing these each year, these reports?
59 A. Yes, we have.
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