Day 275 - 08 Jul 96 - Page 42


     
     1        leaflets in her hand.
     2
     3                         (Video switched off)
     4
     5   MS. STEEL:  There is one other video that I wanted to show.  I
     6        do not know whether you wanted to get them out of the way
     7        at the same time?
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Thank you Mrs Brinley-Codd.  What is
    10        the other one?
    11        A.  It is the October 1991 one.
    12
    13   MR. RAMPTON:  I am afraid our version of that is in chambers.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have the October 1991 one?
    16        A.  Not with me, no.
    17
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  I am afraid that is not here.  I deliberately left
    19        it there because I wanted to look at it tonight?
    20        A.  Well, I can deal with that first thing.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Bring your own copy for the morning.
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  We have got it.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Hold on.
    27
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  No, it looks as though I have got another one.  It
    29        looks like it has got "original evidence 16/10/91" on it.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, good.  Let us show that one now.
    32        A.  If you could have the volume on this one please?
    33
    34                         (Video switched on)
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:  Can you turn the volume up a little bit please?
    37        (Pause) If I can just say that at that point, where there
    38        is a man standing up and two women sitting on the wall,
    39        there is some conversation about a Chinese lady sitting
    40        over there.  And then I recognise the voice of Mr. Terry
    41        Carol saying something about, "It's probably the fucking
    42        undercover lady."  I have spoken to Mr. Carol on a number
    43        of occasions and I am familiar with his voice and, although
    44        the volume is not very loud, I have listened to it at home
    45        and I have listened to here, and I do recognise his voice
    46        and that he was saying, "It is probably the fucking
    47        undercover lady."
    48
    49             That is all I wanted to show, thanks.
    50
    51                        (Video switched off)
    52                  (Witness returned to witness box)
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What have you got to go through now?
    55        A.  I wanted to go through some of the photographs of the
    56        October 1989 picket.  If I just say that I cannot remember
    57        whether it is Mr. Nicholson of Mr. Carol, or whether it is
    58        both of them that say I was with Mr. Gravit.  I think it is
    59        in that report that Mr. Carol did on the day.  Yes,
    60        Mr. Carol said.

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