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1 A. Sorry, no, it is really the other way around. The 85
2 say that everybody should eat less total fat. Then there
3 is a further eight which do not go as far as that. They
4 say the recommendation only applies if you are at high
5 risk.
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7 Q. I see. You probably explained it this morning and I was
8 not following. Then when we get to use fibre again as a
9 "more" item, 61 say everybody should eat more fibre; one
10 report is not quite as strong as that, but 62 one way or
11 another come out in favour of eating more fibre?
12 A. Yes. Then, as I mentioned, the bottom half of the
13 page is referring not to dietary factors but to specific
14 foods. So that although fewer reports refer to foods as
15 such, there is a consensus among those reports that the
16 mentioned foods, for example, on lean meat to eat more,
17 and on fatty meat and meat products to eat less
18 correspondingly, as you might expect.
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20 MR. MORRIS: So the second column refers only to the section of
21 the population that is judged to be at high risk?
22 A. Yes, in a clinical situation, but I think I should
23 say, although I do not think this point has been
24 forgotten, that the great bulk of these reports are not
25 specifically to do with cancer; the great bulk of them are
26 either to do with heart disease, and the figures are all
27 here, or they are all there in the appendix, or they are
28 to do with food and western diseases, generally. The
29 number of reports specifically and solely about cancer are
30 not great.
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32 You could divide the cancer issue -- well, reports dealing
33 with cancer either deal with cancer as such and the
34 relatively few that do or they deal with cancer, I think
35 sensibly in the context of other major diseases, such as
36 the WHO Reports.
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38 Incidentally, something that has not been mentioned before
39 is that the WHO Report, the 1990 report, does actually
40 have a table in the back which itself lists reports
41 specifically on cancer. I think I should have mentioned
42 that before.
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44 MR. MORRIS: Let us come to that in a minute. Shall we move
45 on?
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Is there anything more you want to
48 refer to in the book because you have your other
49 references you want to go through.
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51 MR. MORRIS: No. We might as well do these in the order they
52 are in on the list.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Morris keeps referring to a list -- please
55 may I have one? I do not have one.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there a list?
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59 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, apparently there is a list. There is also a
60 blue and a red book which I notice Mr. Morris and the
