Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 65
1 A. No, not at all. I was not interested in the Guardian's
2 article, as much as I was interested to tell the truth to
3 somebody or a couple of people in an organisation which
4 seemed to be doing a research about what is going on behind
5 the scene at McDonald's, and I wanted to help them rather
6 than the Guardian article really.
7
8 Q. You did not like the way McDonald's worked because you did
9 not like taking orders; that is right, is it not?
10 A. I did not like the way McDonald's worked because
11 I regarded it as unfair.
12
13 Q. You found being asked to do cleaning jobs, things like
14 that, you found them degrading, did you not?
15 A. I find any job which is in your job description
16 reasonable to do. I would not say it was degrading. Some
17 part of my maintenance job that I voluntarily took on was
18 not particularly clean, but I did not find it degrading
19 because it was part of my job.
20
21 Q. Did you have an interview with the solicitors for the
22 Guardian I think on 21st October 1987?
23 A. I might have had, yes. I did have the interview but as
24 to a precise date I am not sure of it.
25
26 Q. Do you remember telling the solicitor that the McDonald's
27 staff system was hierarchial?
28 A. Yes.
29
30 Q. You had to take orders from absolutely everyone?
31 A. That is correct.
32
33 Q. Do you remember telling him that you had to do Ajax
34 cleaning and other such duties which you described as
35 "degrading"?
36 A. I would have said if it is done as a punishment it is
37 degrading, yes.
38
39 Q. Did you say that there was at McDonald's what you called a
40 "savage pecking order"?
41 A. That is not my sentence. I would not use that sort of
42 thing.
43
44 Q. Do you remember telephoning Simon Gibney shortly after you
45 left McDonald's?
46 A. No.
47
48 Q. You do not?
49 A. I have not been in touch with Simon since I have left
50 McDonald's.
51
52 Q. There are, as you probably know, a number of people from
53 that particular period at Colchester that have signed
54 statements for the Defendants in this case.
55 A. Yes.
56
57 Q. Was it you who got those together?
58 A. No. I have not seen any of them since then.
59
60 Q. Why did you not tell the truth in your written statement
