Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 44


     
     1        A.  Right.
     2
     3   Q.   Only a proportion of the timber taken in that clearfelling
     4        will ends up as packaging?
     5        A.  Absolutely.
     6
     7   Q.   But you have not divided the area down because, say, only
     8        20 per cent of it goes to packaging?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   And that the same applies with thinning as well, does it,
    12        or not?
    13        A.  Well, if you take the clearfell, the trees have gone,
    14        and a high proportion of that goes into sawmill product.
    15
    16   Q.   Yes.  I understand that.
    17        A.  A certain proportion goes into boards because in
    18        England we make chipboard and we make medium density
    19        fibre.  So that is a proportion.  The thinnings -- if I may
    20        continue just for a moment, sir -- we have taken out what
    21        we take out on a thinning operation and we have left trees
    22        that will continue to grow to maturity.  So, we have taken,
    23        if we put the two of them together, clearfelled and thinned
    24        area, we have taken the gross area of which only a
    25        proportion in both cases goes to provide the needed
    26        requirement for McDonald's packaging.
    27
    28   Q.   It is in both cases that I was asking about.
    29        A.  So, the 1.42 square miles leaves trees growing and
    30        provides a lot of other product; it is not entirely going
    31        to McDonald's packaging.
    32
    33   Q.   No, that is what I thought but I wanted to make sure.
    34        I mean, you may be tested on that; you may be tested on
    35        your arithmetic, I do not know, but I wanted to make sure
    36        I understood what you were saying.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  Just on that subject:  The thinned area is mostly
    39        for pulp production, is it not?
    40        A.  The thinned area ---
    41
    42   Q.   The thinnings goes mostly to pulp?
    43        A.  -- largely because it is the natural outlet for it; it
    44        is the cheapest end of the forest product sold in the
    45        market.
    46
    47   Q.   So, if we want to calculate the area of forest which is
    48        needed to continue to take wood for pulp out, summing to
    49        1.42, the total square miles for south Scotland, whatever
    50        it was, the south of Scotland, do we have to base the total 
    51        area needed on the clearfelling alone, the .90 square miles 
    52        multiplied by 80, or do we have to take it on the whole 
    53        1.42 square miles multiplied by 80 ---
    54        A.  Well ----
    55
    56   Q.   -- to allow for regeneration?  Do you see what I am saying?
    57        A.  If one is being totally fair, one is taking a very
    58        large area of forest, and you are defining the amount that
    59        is needed, both in clearfelling and in thinning, to provide
    60        the need for one year for all the requirements of

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