Day 161 - 24 Jul 95 - Page 44
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2 Q. You were saying about this system of OCLs being done by one
3 Manager; so the two OCLs being done would they be done by
4 the same Manager?
5 A. Possibly. OCLs is not only done by a Manager; training
6 squad and Floor Managers can do the OCLs as well. So if a
7 shift Manager is in the restaurant who is in charge of
8 certain people he can give those OCLs to the Floor Managers
9 to be completed, hand back to him at the end of the day.
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11 Q. But he is overall responsible?
12 A. That is correct.
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14 Q. OK. Generally how long did you -- you put someone on a
15 station, they take an OCL -----
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where are we going at the moment, because you
18 are just asking what Miss Anteneh's practice is and I do
19 not know whether it is with a view to make a criticism or
20 just finding out more information; the former would be
21 valid, the second would not after all the evidence we have
22 heard so far.
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24 MISS STEEL: It is not to find out more information.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is -----
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28 MISS STEEL: But it is not directly to make a criticism either.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would like you to make a direct criticism
31 or move on to something else. So far as OCLs are
32 concerned, we are a long way past the stage of exploration.
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34 MS. STEEL: I am not exploring. Different witnesses have said
35 different things
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37 MR. RAMPTON: Of course they have.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Then put to her the contradiction.
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41 MISS STEEL: It is not necessarily a contradiction at her
42 store.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Put the challenge to her; put the
45 contradiction anyway to her, or do not put it to her. Just
46 say to me in due course one witness said this happened
47 about OCLs and another said something else.
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49 MISS STEEL: Yes, but it was a complaint during the video. As
50 far as I can see, there is no reason why we should not
51 ask-----
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Take it up with me later, if you like.
54 I mean, I thought that you had found out what you wanted to
55 find about that; now the water is getting muddier and I am
56 not so sure. I thought at one time you had achieved a
57 situation where it appeared that OCLs were not being done
58 as they ought to be done so that Miss Anteneh had to take
59 action.
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