Day 186 - 10 Nov 95 - Page 50


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  No, the point I am making is that you would have
     2        thought "murder" is stronger than "responsible for the
     3        death of", much stronger, because it implies something
     4        vindictive or whatever.  In fact, the law distinguishes
     5        between murder and, what is the word, manslaughter.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us keep off that.
     8
     9   MR. MORRIS:  No, I understand, but what I am saying is, I am
    10        saying that, as Mr. Rampton said, it is clearly within the
    11        area of fair comment, and then the same would apply
    12        to  ------
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have not gone anywhere near that.  I am on
    15        the defamatory meaning.  I have certainly got to consider
    16        justification if I find the meaning which is defamatory,
    17        and I may have to consider fair comment, but that is well
    18        down the line.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  Yes.  I think we are finished.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just take a moment and check that you have
    23        dealt with everything or everything which you think is
    24        important.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  I think we said all we have to say.  I just want to
    27        say that I remember when you said earlier on in the case
    28        something about -- no, I will leave it.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  I hope I will finish by quarter past.  Perhaps if
    33        your Lordship would like to finish the argument today you
    34        would allow ---
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would, I think
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  -- a little over run.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sorry if it inconveniences anyone on a
    41        Friday afternoon ---
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  It does not concern me at all.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- any of the court staff or anyone but, we
    46        will go on after quarter past.
    47
    48   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not have a country estate to visit so it does
    49        not matter!  My Lord, can I say I really do not think
    50        I need to answer very much of what was said today by the 
    51        Defendants, much of which (and I hope they do not take 
    52        offence), I have to say, I am afraid, I feel is in the 
    53        realms of fantasy if one is looking at what an ordinary
    54        person with his feet on the ground would have made of this
    55        leaflet.  Therefore, a very great deal of what they said,
    56        rightly or wrongly, I am afraid I shall simply ignore.
    57        That is particularly so when one comes to the cartoon and
    58        the headlines and other parts of the context.  I will say
    59        something about that.
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