Day 063 - 07 Dec 94 - Page 38


     
     1        I know.  Mr. Van Erp, there are three packages there; one
     2        contains post-consumer polystyrene foam chips, flakes --
     3        can I call them that for a better word?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   That is, broadly speaking, white with some speckles in it?
     7        A.  Yes.
     8
     9   Q.   There is another one which is called HIPS flakes or
    10        something like that?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   That is considerably heavier (if one picks the two up and
    14        compares them) than the polystyrene foam one?
    15        A.  Yes.
    16
    17   Q.   What is the difference between those two packages?
    18        A.  The foam is -- first of all, those two packages are
    19        from the middle, from in the middle of the process of
    20        recycling.
    21
    22   Q.   We have gone past the manual sorting.
    23        A.  We have gone past the manual sorting.  You have put
    24        them in that cleaner separator stage.  So they have been
    25        cleaned and they have been separated in the various
    26        fractions, in this case, polystyrene fraction which is --
    27        sorry, a foam polystyrene fraction which is very light and
    28        a high impact polystyrene fraction which is somewhat
    29        heavier.  That generally comes from -- just to give you an
    30        idea -- the foam polystyrene comes, in general, from foam
    31        packaging such as McDonald's; the high impact polystyrene
    32        generally comes from packaging such as yoghurt pots or
    33        dairy containers.
    34
    35   Q.   Those are all Lin Pac packages, are they?
    36        A.  This is all Lin Pac, coming from the Lin Pac recycling
    37        plant, so there are intermediate stages.
    38
    39   MS. STEEL:  Can I just ask, the high impact stuff, is that the
    40        one that is called "HIPS"?
    41        A.  Yes.  "HIPS" is for high impact polystyrene.
    42
    43   Q.   That is from yoghurt pots?
    44        A.  Yoghurt pots, dairy containers, that sort of thing,
    45        yes.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  Then the little great pellets are what?
    48        A.  And the little grey pellets are the end products after
    49        these flakes which are the end product of the
    50        separating/washing stage, when they are being reextruded, 
    51        and that is, then you end up with pellets like the little 
    52        grey pellets.  Basically, everything is mixed there so that 
    53        the colour disperses itself and then you get a light
    54        greyish or a little bit more dark.
    55
    56   Q.   I do not know whether you had plasticine as a boy in
    57        Holland, did you?
    58        A.  Sorry?
    59
    60   Q.   It was a kind of a modelling clay, plasticine?

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