Day 007 - 06 Jul 94 - Page 27


     
     1        periods?
              A.  The change in the Pacific reflected by the small
     2        notation reads that the only foam clam shells remaining
              were for Big Mac McNuggets, the filet-o-fish, quarter
     3        pounder, and any other sandwich foam was phased out
              completely.
     4
         Q.   That indicates a reduction in the amount being used?
     5        A.  Yes.
 
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The agents are still the same because of the
              reduction in the amount.
     7        A.  Yes.
 
     8   MR. RAMPTON:   Then we go over to February 3rd of this year
              which is the last document in this section, 489G, and we
     9        find, unless I have misread it, I think two countries
              still using HCFCs to some extent; those are Philippines in
    10        the left hand column?
              A.  Yes.
    11
         Q.   But it is HCFCs 22/HC?
    12        A.  Correct.
 
    13   Q.   That is, is it, that some suppliers use hydrocarbons or
              HCFCs or the same supplier is using the differente blowing
    14        agents for different purposes?
              A.  Different products.
    15
         Q.   Can you combine those two substances as one blowing agent,
    16        or not?
              A.  I would imagine you could, but I do not know it is
    17        common practice.
 
    18   Q.   If you go over to the top right hand column under "Europe"
              you see Turkey, do you see that?
    19        A.  Yes, I do.
 
    20   Q.   They use wraps, but they do use HCFCs 22 for Big Mac?
              A.  Correct.
    21
         Q.   So they appear to be planning to phase out the use of CFCs
    22        by July 1992, but not for the Big Mac?
              A.  Right.
    23
         Q.   That seems to be a somewhat contradictory state of
    24        affairs?
              A.  That says in July 1992 they switched all the other
    25        foam packaging to wraps.
  
    26   Q.   So, the middle column reflects what is stated in the right 
              hand column? 
    27        A.  Correct.
 
    28   Q.   We see by this time Venezuela, at the bottom of the Latin
              American column, has abandoned its hydrocarbons in favour
    29        of paper?
              A.  That was actually an inventory issue.  They had almost
    30        a year of inventory, and so that is why it took so long.
 

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