Day 139 - 21 Jun 95 - Page 54


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That does not explain the relevance of the
     3        questions you are asking.  Quite frankly, in your own
     4        interest you ought to get to the nitty gritty of it.
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     6   MR. MORRIS:  You have said that Mr. Gibson's operational
     7        standards were very poor?
     8        A.  Yes.
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    10   Q.   But he was an experienced McDonald's operator who had been
    11        given the right to develop Central America in the
    12        Caribbean?
    13        A.  Yes.
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    15   Q.   So he was someone that had been connected with McDonald's
    16        for over a decade at least?
    17        A.  That is correct.
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    19   Q.   Do you happen to know if he was also involved in Washington
    20        DC in McDonald's or franchisees for also another decade on
    21        top of that?
    22        A.  Based upon hearsay, I know he was involved in
    23        Washington, yes.
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    25   Q.   For some considerable time before?
    26        A.  Yes.
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    28   Q.   What were the operational standards that were very poor
    29        that resulted in this?
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What does that have to do with the union
    32        issue?
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  For a start, it is relevant to operational
    35        standards at McDonald's which are part of the case in any
    36        event.
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There is no allegation in this case about
    39        operational standards in Puerto Rico reflecting in any way
    40        on McDonald's in relation to anything in this leaflet.
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    42   MR. MORRIS:  If operational standards are poor, it is relevant.
    43        John Gibson and Oscar Goldstein were two of the founders of
    44        the East Coast McDonald's empire, if you like.  They go
    45        back to the 50s, do they not?
    46        A.  They may, I do not know.  I really do not know.
    47        I joined McDonald's in 1974.  You are asking me about
    48        something when I was 8 years old.
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    50   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not accept that Mr. Morris is now 
    51        entitled to show pages from a book written by somebody who 
    52        is not a witness in order to found a suggestion made to a 
    53        witness who was 8 years old at the time simply in order to
    54        give himself the opportunity to read it out in court and
    55        waste time.
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    57   MR. MORRIS:  It is not wasting time.
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    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Unless you can point to some issue in the
    60        case to which it is directly relevant, you must restrict

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