Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 34
1 A. I do not know specifically, certainly, I mean, their
2 contracts were terminated. Whether it is right to say they
3 were sacked because I think some of them went to work for
4 the contractors, so -- but certainly they were taken out of
5 Sun Valley employment.
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7 Q. Have you still got the yellow bundle IX there, please?
8 Could you turn to your appendix four on page 59?
9 A. Yes.
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11 Q. Under No. 12, "Chicken Loading", can you just explain the
12 figures? It has "27 per drawer 5 x 4/hand x 3"; can you
13 just explain what that means?
14 A. Well, "4 per hand" means that they have four in each
15 hand.
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17 Q. So four in each hand is quite standard because most of
18 those, well, two-thirds of those are four in a hand?
19 A. Yes.
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21 Q. Then what does the "5 x 4/hand", four to a hand mean?
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you sure that is right? How do you make
24 up to 27. If you do the arithmetic backwards, what does it
25 mean?
26 A. I cannot work it out either, my Lord.
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28 Q. If, for instance, it was five in one hand and four in
29 another three times over it would be 27?
30 A. Yes. I think probably the only way it could work out
31 is if you have five in one hand and four in the other hand
32 and you put three, that would make 27. That is the only
33 way it can be.
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35 MS. STEEL: So some of them would carry six in a hand?
36 A. That is what it would appear from the instruction,
37 although I have never seen that personally.
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39 Q. Have you never seen anyone carrying six or seven birds in a
40 hand at all?
41 A. When I am watching catching it is not something
42 I specifically would have noticed, and the actual number of
43 birds in a hand, I am not specifically counting them all
44 the time so ..... Certainly, I have never observed seven
45 and I cannot honestly say I have observed six.
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47 Q. You cannot say you are aware of having observed it?
48 A. I was not aware of it, no.
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50 Q. Can you just describe what would be the ideal method that
51 the catchers would pick up the birds and get them into the
52 drawers?
53 A. Well, I think with this procedure the important thing
54 is that it is done with care. It can be done with care if
55 it is not done in a tearing hurry. I cannot describe any
56 more than you can imagine, that you pick up birds by hand
57 and you put them in the drawer. You do not throw them; you
58 place them in the drawer.
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60 Q. They are upside-down, are they not?
