Day 134 - 13 Jun 95 - Page 64


     
     1        to how the law was, and so there is the 39 hour cut off.
     2        We often used 35 hours ourselves internally as another sort
     3        of benchmark, but the 39 hour break off point of the report
     4        that you saw would be used.
     5
     6   MS. STEEL:   But if it is just on hours, what is the situation
     7        when somebody who generally works 20 hours is asked for a
     8        couple of weeks to work 39 hours or something like that, do
     9        they suddenly get reclassified as full-time?
    10        A.  Well, it depends; the reason I asked about this is
    11        because I do not know for what purpose you were thinking
    12        that we needed to know, because, do you see what I mean,
    13        you would need to know it maybe for some reasons but very
    14        often it would not be relevant.  So I think I would need to
    15        know more about the context.
    16
    17   Q.   When you give statistics to the media, for example, about
    18        how many of your crew are full-time and how many are
    19        part-time, is that just done from whatever hours people
    20        were working for the past couple of weeks, or do you
    21        actually categorise people into full-time and part-time at
    22        the time they are taken on and, unless they change their
    23        job, that stays the same ---
    24        A.  No.
    25
    26   Q.   -- no matter how many hours they do?
    27        A.  Well, I think I am really all at sea with this point,
    28        because I think I would need to know what it is we provided
    29        that you wanted me to comment on so I would then have to
    30        find out how the information is derived, when you are
    31        talking about information we give to the media, as to how
    32        we had done that.  I do not think I can answer something as
    33        general as that.
    34
    35        The point about part-time and full-time, I have tried to
    36        explain.  We take it from the hours, to the best of my
    37        knowledge.  If there is another way that it is being done
    38        before, I do not know about that, unless I could be helped
    39        with the specifics?
    40
    41   Q.   I am not particularly interested in what you say to the
    42        media.  The purpose of asking is that full-time workers
    43        have more employment rights, or had more employments
    44        rights, and they had those employment rights sooner than
    45        part-time workers, so do you -- I think you have answered
    46        anyway.  It is basically entirely done on the hours that
    47        are worked and -----
    48        A.  Which is also -- the point about employment rights --
    49        do you mean things like unfair dismissal?
    50 
    51   Q.   Yes. 
    52        A.  Well, those are based on hours that are worked anyway 
    53        so you have to look at each case.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They are special requirements anyway, are
    56        they not?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   I assume that the statute gives a definition for purposes
    60        of various rights?

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