Day 188 - 15 Nov 95 - Page 40


     
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     2   Q.   What I am asking you is, first, do you agree that we do not
     3        find anything about the lettuce in the notes which we do
     4        have?
     5        A.  That is correct.
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     7   Q.   Are you telling me that there are other notes in which the
     8        lettuce does appear -- or did appear, sorry?
     9        A.  I am saying that I might have made notes at the time,
    10        but I do not have all the notes that I made at the time.
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    12   Q.   No.  You are not telling me that on 23rd July 1993, when
    13        you made this statement, you based what you say, for
    14        example, about the lettuce on some note that you made at
    15        the time?
    16        A.  No.  That was on my memory.
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    18   Q.   Your memory.  Does the same apply to what you say about
    19        mouldy toasted buns?
    20        A.  Yes.  That is my memory.
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    22   Q.   And to a tray of buns being dropped -- paragraph 5?
    23        A.  I think that is probably my memory as well, yes.
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    25   Q.   That is Croydon?
    26        A.  Yes.
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    28   Q.   Then, meat patties crumbled or broken and being squashed
    29        into buns, nonetheless?
    30        A.  That is my memory, too.
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    32   Q.   Also from memory.  Do you know, in weight, how much lettuce
    33        a bag contained in those days?
    34        A.  No, I do not know how much in weight.  I can remember
    35        the bag was about that big, but how much it weighed I do
    36        not know.
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    38   Q.   So you would not agree that it weighed two kilogrammes?
    39        A.  I have no -- two kilogrammes?
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    41   Q.   Two kilogrammes of lettuce?
    42        A.  I still think in pounds and ounces.  No, it would not
    43        weigh two kilogrammes, I think.
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    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is about four and half pounds.
    46        A.  Yes.  So it would not weigh four and a half pounds,
    47        certainly not.
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    49   MR. RAMPTON:   You do not know how many Big Macs you could get
    50        out of a bag of lettuce of the size that you describe? 
    51        A.  I would say that you probably could go through about 
    52        18 to 24, I would guess, from my memory of the process of 
    53        working on the Big Mac trays and when you had to replenish
    54        the lettuce supply.
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    56   Q.   The lettuce in a Big Mac is visible to the customer, is it
    57        not?
    58        A.  Not always.  It depends how much -- I mean, at that
    59        kind of pressure, sometimes you would try to put the same
    60        amount on each Big Mac, but sometimes the pressure was so

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