Day 306 - 26 Nov 96 - Page 22


     
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     2        Answer:  You and others."  He has been given incorrect
     3        information which has prejudiced his ability to observe and
     4        record what was going on.
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     6        Page 14 of day 267, on line 47, he makes the distinction
     7        between the public meetings at Endsleigh Street and the
     8        non-public meetings that were at Caledonian Road.  Of
     9        course, we have heard that some of the Endsleigh Street
    10        meetings were, in effect, not public either because they
    11        had not been publicised or they were used as an internal
    12        discussion.  He cannot recall how leaflets ever arrived on
    13        the table at Endsleigh Street, top of page 15.  Helen asked
    14        him at the top of page 17 about him saying that she
    15        admitted to helping with all anti-McDonald's information
    16        leaflets and their distribution and other things, he says,
    17        line 30:  "It would have been what I gleaned from that
    18        meeting.  I cannot recall whether you said it or somebody
    19        else said it."  Then she puts to him -- well, it says she
    20        admitted:
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    22        "Are you saying that might have actually come from somebody
    23        else?
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    25        Answer:  No, I am saying that if that is what my notes say,
    26        it will probably mean that you had said something for me to
    27        have made those notes."  "Said something", probably; so he
    28        is not saying, "Oh, blimey, if I use that word, then it is
    29        definitely absolutely the very words that she said".  So,
    30        even that cannot be taken literally.  Then on top of
    31        page 18 I say:
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    33        "You do not have a recollection of me holding up particular
    34        leaflets at this time?
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    36        Answer:  Not at all.
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    38        Question:  Or identifying any particular leaflets that I
    39        was talking about or allegedly talking about?
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    41        Answer: I do not recall."
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    43        He did say on page 19 that he did not hear and he would
    44        have recorded it if anybody was actually trying to chivvy
    45        Paul along to get this fact sheet done which he had
    46        promised to update.  So, there did not seem to be really
    47        any interest in republishing, updating the fact sheet.
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    49        He misdescribed the drawer in the office that he had swiped
    50        the lock of to get in.  About McDonald's, he characterised 
    51        it as McNasty; and there was no drawer marked McNasty.  On 
    52        page 24 he remembered that people in the group were 
    53        involved with the Hackney and Islington Animal Rights
    54        group.  I am trying to whip through as fast as I can.
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    56        I have marked some things on page 39.  I cannot grasp
    57        exactly what way I have marked them, but it might be worth
    58        having a look.  It is about him sending out letters -- yes,
    59        and about him not recording that a meeting took place that
    60        he attended, based on Mr. Pocklington's notes.  So that

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