Day 292 - 01 Nov 96 - Page 45


     
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     2        Then page 70, lines 12 and 56, Germany, about McDonald's
     3        was recycling in Germany, they would be taxed otherwise.
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     5        And then on page 71, he said, quite revealingly:  We had
     6        have no alternative if it was the same here.
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     8        Page 74, lines 21 to 30, customers could be doing it okay.
     9        I cannot remember what I meant by that, except for that
    10        customers are ----
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I can look at the actual transcript.
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    14   MR. MORRIS:   Yes.  The general drift is....  I mean, sometimes
    15        it is because I am reading between the lines of what they
    16        are saying.  They may be saying one thing, but if you
    17        actually read between the lines, they are saying the
    18        opposite.
    19
    20        Page 76, lines 2 to 28, legislation would make McDonald's
    21        get it working, i.e., staff would work on it.  Yes, he said
    22        that it seemed the main problem was they did not want to
    23        devote any of their valuable labour percentage costs to
    24        doing recycling, and since their labour costs are - we have
    25        not actually heard any evidence....  Well, I will leave
    26        that out.  I was going to say their labour costs are
    27        probably so small compared to other companies - but we know
    28        that - that they should be able to find labour to do
    29        recycling.
    30
    31        Page 77, lines 37 to 45, he was saying that Lynne Pack were
    32        also finding it hard to expand because it was labour
    33        intensive, which again implies the cost consideration,
    34        which of course would not be the same if it was law or if
    35        they were genuinely committed to environmental concern.
    36
    37        The point on page 79, which is the last on that day,
    38        factories can recycle, and the point I make there, if not
    39        practicable, styrene should not be used at all.  That was
    40        an inference I was drawing, a conclusion, which is that if
    41        it is in fact impossible to recycle polystyrene waste, then
    42        the environmentally concerned society would not allow that
    43        waste to be created because it would be there forever.  So
    44        the point is, if it is recyclable, it should be done; if it
    45        is not, then the material should not be used or certainly
    46        it is open to being criticised for being wasteful, which is
    47        what this case is about.  The case is about the right to
    48        criticise.
    49
    50        So we are moving on to day 60 next, which is over the page.
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
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    54   MR. MORRIS:   Page 6, no recycling anywhere in the world except
    55        for Germany, it seemed.  Page 7, again that is about tax,
    56        they get taxed if they do not use re-usables.  Page 8, UK
    57        all dumped in landfill.  I think that is about it all ends
    58        up as environment/index.html">litter or landfill, their customer packaging.
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    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Was it, or was it the stuff which had

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