Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 56


     
     1        consignments of Brazilian beef apart from the five that are
     2        in tab 3 or were in tab 3?
     3        A.  Well, I am telling you there were 83 tonnes of
     4        Brazilian beef delivered to McKey.
     5
     6   Q.   So is it possible there were more consignments but the
     7        total was 83 tonnes?
     8        A.  I am saying based on the questions I asked before
     9        I came to this courtroom that we received 83 tonnes of
    10        Brazilian beef.
    11
    12   Q.   Questions you asked of whom?
    13        A.  My management team.
    14
    15   Q.   Your management team?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   It was them that told you it was 83 tonnes?
    19        A.  Yes.
    20
    21   Q.   But looking at the documents in front of you now, do you
    22        not think it appears as though there were other
    23        consignments?
    24        A.  No.  As a matter of fact, the orders we have got here
    25        do not total 83 tonnes.  The actual orders going out I just
    26        added them all up.  The only way to do this, and it is for
    27        a skilled person to do it to your satisfaction, is to take
    28        the tonnage order, take the tonnage delivered, take the
    29        tonnage received and taken the tonnage invoice and it will
    30        balance at 83 tonnes or a few odd pounds, 83 tonnes and
    31        some few odd pounds, but it is a skilled job.  It is a
    32        classic case of too much paper being confusing.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do suggest we leave it there Ms. Steel and
    35        see what, if anything, comes of it.  You have put your
    36        point in relation to it.
    37
    38   MS. STEEL:   Just going back to something we were talking about
    39        the other day.  Are you aware of fattened cows being
    40        shipped from Ireland to Egypt?
    41        A.  Say that again, please?
    42
    43   Q.   Are you aware of fattened cows virtually ready for
    44        slaughter being shipped from Ireland to Egypt?
    45        A.  What has that got to do with McKey and McDonald's?
    46
    47   Q.   I am just asking whether you whether you are aware.
    48        A.  Yes, I am aware.
    49
    50   Q.   You are aware of that? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   So fattened cows are, in fact, shipped quite long
    54        distances?
    55        A.  Not cows.  The cattle that are going to Egypt at the
    56        moment are steers and heifers.  Now ask me if I agree with
    57        it.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you?
    60        A.  No, I do not.

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