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1 then, of course, I would have listened to it, but if she is
2 adopting a the stand, as I think she is, that she is really
3 not prepared to express a view when she does not know
4 enough about it, then the sorts of things you are putting
5 to her now really should be directed at me in due course.
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7 MS. STEEL: Does your Department get advice from the University
8 of Strathclyde?
9 A. I know a report was done for us but not necessarily my
10 Department. My Department's role is liaising with
11 Environmental Health Officers on local hygiene issues
12 related to the restaurant. If we need technical input, we
13 go to Quality Assurance. My people are not qualified on
14 food safety or the technical side of food safety.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Remember what we said yesterday about
17 speaking out; if you have a bit of a cold, then it is even
18 more important. Do your best to speak up.
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20 MS. STEEL: That was a report on advice on cooking temperatures
21 and times; is that right?
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23 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord, I am sorry to intervene. It is
24 referred to, as your Lordship will recall, in Mr. Clark's
25 statement. The Defendants asked to see it some
26 considerable time ago. I informed your Lordship -- and
27 this time I am sure of my ground because I have both read
28 the report and enquired about the reasons why it was
29 created -- that it was, undoubtedly the subject of legal,
30 professional privilege, and your Lordship ruled that the
31 reference to it in Mr. Clark's statement did not waive that
32 privilege. Mrs. Steel is not entitled to ask Mrs. Barnes
33 about its contents.
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35 MS. STEEL: I am hardly asking for details. I believe I should
36 be entitled (although it is entirely pointless to ask now
37 since Mr. Rampton has given away to the witness what she
38 should answer) and I am entitled to ask her what the report
39 was.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No.
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43 MS. STEEL: If it turns turn out -- it may be another report.
44 For all we know, it could be an entirely different report,
45 the one she has seen.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You suggest precisely what report you have in
48 mind, if it is not the one which is referred to in -----
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50 MS. STEEL: She has mentioned a report. I am asking what the
51 report was.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What report do you have in mind now?
54 A. There was a report prepared for us by Strathclyde. It
55 was certainly after Preston, and it was not to do with
56 cooking times.
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58 Q. Sorry?
59 A. Sorry, it was not to do with cooking times.
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