Day 103 - 14 Mar 95 - Page 63


     
     1        better.  If the lungs are still in the carcass, quite
     2        frankly, it makes absolutely no difference to the quality
     3        of the carcass.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is out of 100 samples?
     6        A.  I think they are checking 25.
     7
     8   Q.   Are they?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   So the figure of 100 under the sample next to evisceration
    12        near the top is -- if, for instance, we see there are two
    13        lungs in at 15, it looks as if 6.15, the sample appears to
    14        be 94 there?
    15        A.  OK, well, maybe that was the case.  I am not really
    16        sure.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  I think that is percentage.  100 is a per cent, the
    19        sample is 25 which explains the single figures for all the
    20        percentage.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why do you say that?
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  It says sample, 25.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is against another line.  The
    27        evisceration sample is 100.  In fact, it looks as if they
    28        never actually did do 100, but 94 at 6.15, 96 at 7.20, and
    29        so on.  They only did 90 at 10 past 1.  Do you see?
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Anyway, it may not be a crucial point,
    32        frankly.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, it may well not be.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  On the next page it has at the bottom
    37        right-hand -- what are these, these temperatures on the
    38        right-hand chart, the right-hand bottom chart, which seem
    39        to be superimposed on a different chart?
    40        A.  Yes.
    41
    42   Q.   What temperatures are they exactly, do you know?
    43        A.  The temperatures coming out of the chillers.
    44
    45   Q.   What temperature should they be?  They should be a maximum
    46        of four, should they?
    47        A.  That is the target maximum, yes.
    48
    49   Q.   But some do go above four, yes?
    50        A.  Occasionally and that is why they have written 
    51        "monitor" against it. 
    52 
    53   Q.   No, that 355 is 3 degrees, 5 degrees and 5 degrees, is it
    54        not?
    55        A.  That is correct.  They have taken three different
    56        readings.
    57
    58   Q.   If we go to the next page, so you have requirements that
    59        certain temperatures should not reach above four degrees.
    60        When it reaches above four degrees you put "monitor"?

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