Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 36
1 confusing at that stage in that case, but what is -----
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3 MR. MORRIS: I will get to the bit where he -----
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Was it ever actually put to a witness that
6 all you have to do to get the sustainable area is find out
7 the area of actual trees or brush cut down and then
8 multiply it by the year cycle in order to get it, because I
9 don't remember it being put and I would have been very
10 surprised if it had been so simple.
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12 MR. MORRIS: I mean... Yes. Actually I have nearly finished,
13 so we can relax as regards finishing today.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, you can either look at it now or you
16 can come back at some other time. I am not going to call
17 on anyone to do anything more this afternoon when you and
18 Ms. Steel have finished with recycling and waste.
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20 MR. MORRIS: I am trying to get the right reference.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: By all means look for it now if you want to.
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24 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I am sure we can get it out the way.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, very well. (Pause).
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28 MR. MORRIS: I think there is enough evidence on this issue to
29 be able to draw basic conclusions from it. (Pause)
30 Basically, pages 43 to 46.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: This is day 58 still, is it?
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34 MR. MORRIS: Yes. Sorry, day 56. At the end of page 46,
35 basically. It was confusing, he did not set a figure
36 exactly, but he said that if you had an 80 year cycle and
37 you had 80 times the area because of that-----
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let me just-----
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41 MR. MORRIS: Line 48, he said that 112 square miles on his 1.42
42 square miles, which is eighty times the figure, would give
43 him a healthy leeway in terms of areas of forest
44 sustainable.
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46 MR JUSTICE BELL: Hold on a minute. Let me just look. (Pause)
47 Look at the bottom of page 45.
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49 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I know. You see, I asked him in the middle
50 of page 46, "What are you saying, do you need a somewhat
51 smaller area than 112 miles? It could be somewhat
52 smaller?" Answer, "Yes". I suggested 80 square miles, he
53 said it would be nice to have 112 square miles to ensure
54 you had a multi-purpose forest and to ensure
55 sustainability.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is all you need. The greater area of
58 forest you have to satisfy a certain demand, the -----
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60 MR. MORRIS: He did not say, 'Oh no, blimey, you don't need a
