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     1        of the old growth, little remaining old growth pinewood
     2        forest going on up there.  But not only is it a National
     3        Park but it actually has the accolade of being the United
     4        Nations Biological Heritage Reserve, and it is still being
     5        logged.
     6
     7        When you go to northern Finland, recently some extra land
     8        in northern Finland in the lap territories has been put
     9        into what they call "wilderness", but one further that
    10        logging is allowed, what they call "sensitive logging", and
    11        logging is happening in these so-called "wilderness" areas,
    12        in newly acquired wilderness areas, in the north of
    13        Finland.
    14
    15   Q.   So that is a general point, that the conferring of a status
    16        of National Park does not automatically give them
    17        protection?
    18        A.  Not at all, no.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  I have no further questions.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.  Do you wish to ask any questions,
    23        Ms. Steel?
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  No.
    26
    27                       Cross-examined by MR. RAMPTON
    28
    29   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, arising not out of Mr. Hopkins' statement
    30        but out of evidence given this morning or out of the
    31        questions asked by Mr. Morris, I do have two questions.
    32        (To the witness):  Have you got that beautifully coloured
    33        (although horrifying in some ways) picture book there?
    34        A.  Yes.
    35
    36   Q.   Can you turn to page 160?
    37        A.  Yes, indeed.
    38
    39   Q.   Is that a picture of somewhere in Ontario?
    40        A.  It is, yes, I guess it is.
    41
    42   Q.   What is it called?
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Gordon Cousins Forest, is it?
    45        A.  It is indeed.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  Gordon Cousins Forest.  Ontario is a huge
    48        province, is it not?  It is probably as big in one way or
    49        another as Alberta or Manitoba, is it not?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Can you tell me where in Ontario Gordon Cousins Forest is 
    53        to be found?
    54        A.  North of the Great Lakes, according to this document
    55        here.
    56
    57   Q.   True enough but -----
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The whole of Ontario is north of the Great
    60        Lakes.

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