Day 248 - 13 May 96 - Page 27


     
     1        A.  No, but it was all about the same time.  It was the
     2        animal liberations link that I had seen and the support of
     3        them by the London Greenpeace group that was just alarming
     4        to me, having had these incidents.
     5
     6   Q.   You so your position is that you had seen the
     7        London Greenpeace leaflet, which is attached as an appendix
     8        to your statement, in 1989 before you started to take any
     9        action against ----
    10        A.  Round that time, round there somewhere.
    11
    12   Q.   I am asking to you to be specific, because you are saying
    13        that is the reason why you took this action.  So, your
    14        evidence is that you had seen this leaflet before you
    15        decided to take any action?
    16        A.  Summertime.
    17
    18   Q.   It was in the summertime?
    19        A.  It was after the incidents in Milton Keynes.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you tell me when they were, those
    22        incidents?
    23        A.  I think it was June, July 1989.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:   It is right, is it not, that at the time of the
    26        fire bombing incident you blamed it on Chrissie Hynde and
    27        threatened legal action against her; is that not correct?
    28        A.  I did not blame it on anybody.  There was an incident
    29        involving her in the West End of London where she -- and
    30        I do not remember the exact words -- had said something
    31        publicly about fire bombing McDonald's.  The records of the
    32        media will certainly show that somewhere, it was well
    33        covered in the nation's and world's press.  The very next
    34        day we have our incident I learned of this link of
    35        yourselves with the animal liberation people and
    36        I shivered.
    37
    38   Q.   In your 'words complained of' bundle we have a whole load
    39        of press cuttings from the Chrissie Hynde incident?
    40        A.  Yes.
    41
    42   Q.   It does say that the company asked the police to take some
    43        kind of action against Chrissie Hynde, and also that you
    44        threatened her that if she made any comments about
    45        McDonald's again that you would take action; do you
    46        remember that?
    47        A.  No, I do not remember telling her if she made any
    48        comments about McDonald's I would take action.  I think we
    49        were speaking about comments of the sort that she did make,
    50        which may very well have been the reason something happened 
    51        24 hours later in the Anglia region of Britain. 
    52 
    53   Q.   You are aware that when she made these comments, which she
    54        says were a joke -- you are aware of that, yes?
    55        A.  Well, they may have been a joke in her mind, they
    56        certainly were not a joke in mine 24 hours later when what
    57        happened happened.
    58
    59   Q.   This was at a Greenpeace international event that she made
    60        these comments?

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