Day 276 - 09 Jul 96 - Page 20


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All I am on is the point at the moment that I
     2        have heard the evidence that you have said but it is only
     3        fair to say I am looking at it as well, and certainly not
     4        concluding that I think it is the fact sheet.  But equally
     5        well, I do not think I can safely conclude that it is the
     6        A5.  It entirely depends on which part of it he is holding
     7        up, and so on.
     8        A.  Well, I am personally 100 per cent sure that it is not
     9        the fact sheet and, I think -- I mean, for the reason that
    10        you can see that there is no writing at the top of the
    11        leaflet.  There is no -- above the graphic there is no big
    12        black print; whether or not it was one way up or the other
    13        way up, there is no big black print which there is either
    14        side of the graphic on the fact sheet and the A5 leaflets,
    15        the graphic was right at the top, which is exactly the way
    16        it looks in this photograph.
    17
    18   Q.   Do you want to refer to any other?
    19        A.  I think with my photographs, because they are generally
    20        not very sharp -- well, some of them are but some of them
    21        are not.  I think that is it on them.  Then there is
    22        Mr. Gravett's photographs which are in -- I don't know
    23        whether anyone else has transferred them to the back of tab
    24        6, but that is where mine are otherwise they are tab 38 in
    25        the second supplementary list.  I am not sure.  The first
    26        one I should point out is that in photograph No. 5 I appear
    27        just above the 'R' of rainforest.
    28
    29   Q.   What, the second 'R' of rainforest?
    30        A.  Yes, and it looks as though I am holding the black
    31        banner thing.  The far end that may actually be where the
    32        photograph was taken.
    33
    34   Q.   Do you mean this photograph?
    35        A.  Yes.  Might be able to see it, there is actually a
    36        second set of originals here.  It should be 5A on the back
    37        of it.  I do not know whether those ones are in order.
    38        (Handed).
    39
    40   Q.   You say that is you, and so it may be, but I cannot see you
    41        holding anything because you are cut off?
    42        A.  No, but there is something black in front of me and all
    43        I was saying was it looks as though that is actually where
    44        I was standing when the photograph was taken which appears
    45        in the set of photographs that was provided to the inquiry
    46        agents when they first started making inquiries, and the
    47        reason I say that is because in those photographs I am
    48        actually at the opposite end of the banner to all the other
    49        ones that have been disclosed previously and it was for
    50        that reason that I was actually asking for the negatives
    51        because it occurs to me there may actually be other
    52        photographs of me on the negatives which have been printed
    53        up showing more of what I was doing throughout the
    54        demonstration.  I think in all the photographs that had
    55        previously been disclosed I was holding the left hand side
    56        of the banner, if you were looking at it, whereas in that
    57        one I was holding the right hand side of it as you would
    58        look at it.  In this photograph it does appear as though --
    59        I mean you can't see what I was holding but there is
    60        something black sort of stretching out from me which cuts

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