Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 23
1 in me phoning Dave for Marion to have a conversation with
2 him; and if you look at Mr. Pocklington's notes of
3 24th June -- sorry, 14th May?
4 A. Yes.
5
6 Q. Have you got them?
7 A. Probably, but I -----
8
9 Q. If I tell you what it says. On page 2 of his notes, the
10 very first paragraph says: "Dave Morris telephoned. He
11 said that he would attempt to attend the meeting next
12 week", and then he goes on. Would you accept that it was
13 actually -- well, it was actually -- whoever it was who the
14 phone conversation was with was actually phoning in as
15 opposed to me phoning out?
16 A. I cannot recall whether you initiated the call or
17 whether you answered the phone.
18
19 MR. MORRIS: So, when you say in your statement, in your
20 supplementary statement, paragraph 2 -----
21 A. Is this the one dated 14th May?
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is the supplementary statement with 8B.
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25 MR. MORRIS: It should have a "B" on it.
26 A. Yes.
27
28 Q. When it says, "Helen Steel arrived with a specific request
29 from Dave Morris", you do not know that, do you; that is
30 just what you just assumed?
31 A. She arrived with a request from Dave.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He has already been asked that by Ms. Steel,
34 and he has accepted that she may or did say, "Dave wants to
35 know what is going on next week."
36
37 MR. MORRIS: So that is not even necessarily true that Dave did
38 want to know what was going on.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He is not saying that; he is just saying what
41 Ms. Steel said.
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43 MR. MORRIS: Right. So you do not know if it was a request from
44 Dave Morris; it was an alleged request from Dave Morris?
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We have just been through this, with
47 Ms. Steel asking it.
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49 MR. MORRIS: OK. That is hearsay, anyway.
50
51 (To the witness) "She telephoned Dave Morris" -- you do
52 not know it was Dave Morris on the end of the phone, do
53 you?
54 A. No, I did not speak to you. I do not know that it was
55 you.
56
57 Q. Right.
58 A. That was the impression that I received.
59
60 Q. I think that is -----
