Day 135 - 15 Jun 95 - Page 24


     
     1        forecast of it in the disclosable statement -- Mr. Rampton
     2        has either got to shrug his shoulders and say: "Well, there
     3        we are" and not bother about it, or he has to say to
     4        Mrs. Brinley-Codd:  "Please have enquiries made about
     5        that".  If a witness who has already been called or someone
     6        who is not even on the witness list can give an answer
     7        which Mr. Rampton thinks relevant he has to ask me:
     8         "Please, I would like to call a witness about that".
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    10        It is all inconvenient and it all takes time.  It is for
    11        those practical reasons only at the moment that I am making
    12        the comment which I made a few minutes ago.  It is for
    13        those reasons that I made the comment a few weeks ago which
    14        Mrs. Brinley-Codd picked up and repeated in the letter to
    15        which you have referred.
    16
    17        Quite apart from any question of fairness between the
    18        parties (which, of course, runs both ways), it is just an
    19        attempt to be efficient about how we get through the
    20        evidence.  There is no more to it than that.
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    22        You have been helpful in a number of respects in this
    23        case.  I have particularly in mind agreeing to send out
    24        that form to your potential witnesses, and I am asking you
    25        to be helpful in this respect as well.
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I mean, we certainly will do the best we can.
    28        It is just that it is very difficult for us because we do
    29        not meet our witnesses, we do not have a chance to meet
    30        them before they turn up.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, here you have ---
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I understand that.
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    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- Mr. Sutcliffe, so please do it with him.
    37        It is in your own interests to do it because it focuses
    38        your mind as well on what extra evidence, if any, of
    39        relevance he can give.  So, you will want to do it for your
    40        own purposes, or should want to, and having done it you
    41        should give Barlow Lyde and Gilbert notice of it.
    42
    43        We will adjourn now, unless there is anything else which
    44        must be dealt with, and we will resume tomorrow with
    45        Mr. Newton-Brown.  I would like you to use the experience
    46        of how long Mr. Sexton has taken and how long
    47        Mr. Newton-Brown takes, however long it may be tomorrow, to
    48        help you when it comes to making estimates as to how long
    49        other witnesses will probably take once they get into the
    50        witness box in the future, for scheduling purposes. 
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    52             (The court adjourned until the following day) 
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