Day 100 - 09 Mar 95 - Page 45
1 telling the public that your suppliers have 36 separate
2 quality control checks, and if one of them fails the meat
3 is rejected and, therefore, they could be sure they are
4 eating safe products. The fact is, is it not, Mr. Kenny,
5 that they are not automatically rejected should they fail
6 one of the quality control checks.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I am afraid that is two questions at
9 once. What Mr. Morris must put is, with respect, what
10 I suggested earlier. He must suggest to Mr. Kenny that at,
11 for example, No. 2 "meat temperature on arrival" a piece of
12 meat which is over four degrees, if that be the standard,
13 or the norm -----
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15 MR. MORRIS: It is not the norm, it is the maximum allowed.
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17 MR. RAMPTON: No, no, please. He must put, if he saying that a
18 piece of meat which is over four degrees, even by if it is
19 .01 or .1, he must put that that is a failure, and that
20 that is what McDonald's mean in their leaflet, if he is to
21 make the point good, and then see what the witness says.
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23 MR. MORRIS: I put to the witness what he meant by "failure" in
24 terms of their own quality control checks and the witness
25 replied to that.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Try again anyway. Put it to him.
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29 MR. MORRIS: I am happy with the answer as it was. I do not
30 want to give him an opportunity to change his answer
31 so ......
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Leave it alone and argue it to me later
34 then. Do not worry, it will all get put right in the end.
35 Yes. We will have our five minutes there there, shall we?
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37 (Short Adjournment)
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39 MS. STEEL: While we have the appendix 1 open, have you still
40 got that there?
41 A. Yes, I have.
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43 Q. The quality control checks: On page 14 it says: "Since
44 1989 the above checks have been supplemented with the
45 following"?
46 A. Right.
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48 Q. That is actually ambiguous, is it not, because they have
49 not been in place since 1989, have they? They have come in
50 in the years after that?
51 A. I think that is right, yes. There were 38 checks
52 before 1989 and between 1989 and today those other three
53 checks have come in.
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55 Q. When was traceability introduced, do you know? The E.coli,
56 the internal check, was 1991, was it not, internal
57 temperature checks?
58 A. Internal temperature checks was 1991. The E.coli,
59 I think, was 1990. The meat traceability check, there has
60 always been traceability from McKey's through their
