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     1        spent what is now about 20 minutes on this is so that we do
     2        not have a situation where you come back, Mr. Rampton
     3        raises the objection and you say, "Well, we did not
     4        understand the way it was going to be put; we have not had
     5        sufficient warning; we are not legally represented; we need
     6        to go away and get legal advice", because with the
     7        witnesses, one in the witness box, a question of that
     8        witness having raised the legal argument which I have got
     9        to decide and others, hopefully, queuing up outside court
    10        to give their evidence, I am not going to say, "Right,
    11        I will give you time to go and get legal advice".
    12
    13        I have canvassed these matters so that you can try and get
    14        your mind round the potential problem.  If you choose,
    15        before the beginning of the week in question where we have
    16        Miss Pearce followed by publication witnesses, to get some
    17        legal advice about it, then you can try to do so.
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  Can I clarify one thing then?  The waiver on any
    20        relevant material -- any material that is relevant to the
    21        evidence of the four that have been disclosed, you
    22        are-----
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Relevance has nothing to do with it.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  Any material that is relevant to any issue in the
    27        case that is related to those four witnesses is now --
    28        there is no privilege on -----
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is not so.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  The waiver of the privilege for those four -----
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am sorry to interrupt because I do not
    35        like to do it, but I do beg Mr. Morris to take away the
    36        references which we have given and to read them.  The bits
    37        in Style and Hollander really are very instructive.  They
    38        are written very clearly.  All these questions are answered
    39        in the course of that week and it really is not very
    40        helpful to have this argument now.
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  Can we just summarise what the situation is so far
    43        as the waiver of the privilege of those four is?
    44
    45   MR. RAMPTON:  No, because that is to ask your Lordship to make a
    46        ruling and then I shall have to set forth -- perhaps it
    47        will take me quarter of an hour -- of what I conceive to be
    48        the principles of waiver.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  The point is, I think you said something the other 
    51        day about you were waiving privilege. 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  If one deploys a piece of evidence, then one
    54        waives the privilege in documents associated with or
    55        connected with the transaction which that evidence
    56        describes.  Now, that is put very succinctly.  I have tried
    57        to borrow the words verbatim from the judgment of
    58        Mr. Justice Hobhouse in a case in 1984 -- I think it is the
    59        General Accident Fire and Life Assurance; it is on the
    60        list.  That is not, as it appears, nearly so extensive a

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