Day 181 - 01 Nov 95 - Page 38


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  But what was said, what I remember, is that
     2        McDonald's were concerned, they were getting so many EHOs
     3        around the country making -----
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL: I know there was all that.  So that you need
     6        not stand there mystified, there was no question of a dawn
     7        raid.  That is my phrase.
     8
     9   THE WITNESS:  Safety audit.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But there we are.  I had not taken anything
    12        sinister from what Mr. Pearson had said, Mr. Rampton.
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  Nor had I.  I had simply thought it was an
    15        assumption on his part, that is all.  Apparently it was
    16        not, so it does not matter.
    17
    18        Mr. Pearson, you saw, I think, two McDonald's restaurants
    19        in operation, but not, you say, in busy times; is that
    20        right?
    21        A.  That is correct.
    22
    23   Q.   I think in June of last year.  In your statement, you tell
    24        us you saw the effect of "hustle" in the front of house, in
    25        the sense that people were, according to your observations,
    26        skip running; yes?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   Q.   I was confused yesterday -- as you will have noticed --
    30        whether you also meant now to say that that was something
    31        you also saw in the kitchen?
    32        A.  Can I just turn to my statement?
    33
    34   Q.   Yes.  I am so sorry.  It is paragraph 9.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  8.
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  Tab 9.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The site visits start at paragraph 5.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  I am grateful to your Lordship.  (To the witness):
    43        It is paragraph 8 on the third page.
    44        A.  Yes.  What I say there is what I -----
    45
    46   Q.   What you saw?
    47        A.  I wrote this new at the time of the visit, so this is
    48        what I saw.
    49
    50   Q.   Yes.  This was written much nearer the time than we are 
    51        now, if not immediately afterwards.  Did you take some 
    52        notes, do you think, at the time? 
    53        A.  Yes, I did.
    54
    55   Q.   So this is likely to be more reliable than your present
    56        recollection?
    57        A.  Yes.  I am happy to rely on this.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL: If I heard you correctly, you said, "I wrote
    60        down what I saw"?

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