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1 say: "Well, what about this?" and the Defendants might do
2 the same. I agree it is an anomaly.
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4 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Coton -- need I say any more, my Lord?
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I do not think so. I would much rather
7 you just said: "Do you remember saying yesterday words to
8 this effect?" Hopefully, the witness will remember
9 because I am sure you would not read something which is
10 not there and we can go on from there. It may be that
11 I am being pedantic in the extreme, but I just feel uneasy
12 about a page here and a page there of a transcript being
13 produced.
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15 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I will not produce the pages.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I suggest is you ask the witness, if
18 you would be so kind as to do it this way: "Do you
19 remember that you said yesterday something to this
20 effect?" Hopefully, the witness will agree and we will
21 carry on from there.
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23 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Coton do you remember saying yesterday that
24 there was pressure to keep your costs under control, and
25 that the costs came all the way down from the top. Do you
26 remember saying words to that effect -----
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: "Cascade" was the word used.
29 A. Yes, I did.
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31 MR. RAMPTON: "Cascade" was the word, do you remember that?
32 A. Yes.
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34 Q. You remember saying that there were meetings, Anglia
35 region Managers meetings, do you remember saying that?
36 A. Yes.
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38 Q. Do you remember saying that the Supervisors put their
39 store Managers under pressure and that then you, the store
40 Managers, put your Assistant Managers under pressure?
41 A. Yes.
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43 Q. Did you go to any of these Regional Managers' meetings?
44 A. As a store Manager, I would have done but not as an
45 Assistant Manager.
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47 Q. Did Mr. Frank Stanton attend any of the meetings to which
48 you went as a Store Manager?
49 A. No.
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51 Q. No, he did not. Then when Mr. Morris asked you this, the
52 Anglia region Managers' meetings, who ran those meetings,
53 why did you answer: "At the time in the statement we are
54 talking about here, that would have been run by Frank
55 Stanton who was the Supervisor at that time".
56 A. Because he was asking questions about a period of time
57 when I was an Assistant Manager and that would have been
58 true.
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60 Q. You never went to a Regional Managers' meeting when Frank
