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1 MR JUSTICE BELL: He did not say that-----
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3 MR. MORRIS: McDonald's had a separate supply -- sorry, what
4 did he not say?
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You had better give me chapter and verse
7 for that. You may be right, I may be wrong. I do not
8 think he said it came to Alajuela for processing by Co-op
9 Montecillos for McDonald's from all over the country.
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11 MR. MORRIS: No, no, no
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13 MR JUSTICE BELL: Which is the bottom line as far as I am
14 concerned?
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16 MR. MORRIS: No, I did not say he said that. I said that that
17 plant at Alajuela received supplies -- this the local
18 market -- so they get the general beef supplies. But
19 I was going to say, but he did not accept that McDonald's
20 would get that beef because they would have separate
21 supplies from Baranca division. But the point is it does
22 open the question to anybody that, really, is that always
23 the case?
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What evidence is there to the contrary;
26 that is the point?
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28 MR. MORRIS: I am making ----- (pm2)
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When I said what I did to you a few moments
31 ago, I was not getting on at you. I am genuinely
32 interested in what the evidence is, what the reliable
33 evidence is, if any, that beef for McDonald's actually
34 comes from land which was rainforest at this time or that
35 time.
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37 MR. MORRIS: Right.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Then when I have got that straight in my
40 mind, I can go on and ask myself what the evidence was
41 that it was rainforest at some time and, if so, which, and
42 what the ramifications are of that, if it is so. All that
43 is quite apart from the hamburger connection argument.
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45 MR. MORRIS: Right.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But I must be right about it.
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49 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I cannot just say because Co-op Montecillos
52 gets some meat from a local market which may come from
53 some other part of the country, even though the evidence
54 is that they got their McDonald's meat from Baranca and it
55 came from this specified part of the country, that I
56 cannot say from that "oh, well, on balance of
57 probabilities meat from McDonald's came from a market
58 which grew from rainforest areas". That would be pure
59 speculation. That is why I am asking you, you know, where
60 it takes you.
