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     1        that he was not telling the truth and that we believed the
     2        evidence was pointing in the opposite direction?
     3        A.  I think it was purely vindictive because you did not
     4        get your way.  The facts he had put forward had gone so far
     5        opposite of the points you were trying to get him to make
     6        that you could not handle it.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  That is a matter of argument.  We believe we proved
     9        our case the following week when you -----
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, but ---
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  But that is another matter.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- you are asking the witness what he
    16        observed.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  I understand that.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Try to resist the temptation to let the
    21        argument develop.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Can we summarise this whole issue as being fairly
    24        simple?  Everything your critic says is lies, but
    25        everything that McDonald's says must be true.  That is
    26        basically what you believe, is it not?
    27        A.  No.  I admit I make mistakes occasionally and I have
    28        said so from this box.  I have the sensibility to do that.
    29        I am not perfect.  The Company is not perfect.  But I know
    30        what I read in that leaflet is not true.  I have been
    31        around McDonald's for too many years, touched too many
    32        departments, too many people to accept it as -- because you
    33        say it, it is right.  I am sorry, it is not right.  Blatant
    34        falsehoods.
    35
    36   Q.   Can I just refer to the leaflet that was being circulated
    37        before the trial started?  It has a number of references,
    38        but a number 177 in the publication bundles, I have got it
    39        down as.  I am not sure what volume that is.  I have it
    40        dated 25th June, 1994.  It is 1B.  It should be 177.  It
    41        might just say 77.
    42        A.  I am looking for 1B?
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a pink volume 1B.
    45
    46   THE WITNESS:  The tab, please?
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  177.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is quite near the back. 
    51        A.  I have a 77.  I do not have any 177. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  Try 77; it is probably 77.
    54        A.  77 -- the first page is numbered 455 at the bottom?
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, it is -----
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, it is, yes.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mine it is 396 A1.

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