Day 266 - 20 Jun 96 - Page 28
1 Q. After Roman 5?
2 A. Yes.
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4 Q. There is an unnumbered paragraph?
5 A. Yes.
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7 Q. And after that there is one which begins: "New total
8 diet," which is in italics?
9 A. Yes, I see that.
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11 Q. "The new total diet which is well within today's broad
12 scientific consensus would consist in energy terms of
13 protein 11 per cent, and no change is recommended." Do
14 you see?
15 A. Yes.
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17 Q. "Fat 34 per cent, a reduction". And you remember that when
18 the COMA panel came out with its recommendations in 1990, I
19 think it was, or 1991, they said 35 per cent?
20 A. Yes.
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22 Q. So it is substantially the recommendation are the same are
23 they not?
24 A. Well, that 34 per cent.
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26 Q. Yes, it does, does it not?
27 A. It depends whether you include the alcohol as part of
28 the recommendations or not. If you look further on the
29 report, the NACNE Report, you will find it says 30 per cent
30 of fat, and the reason for that difference is because it
31 depends on whether you include the alcohol in the
32 recommendation.
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34 Q. I absolutely accept that, that is what the COMA panel said
35 too, was it not?
36 A. Yes.
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38 Q. "Carbohydrate 50 per cent, an increase. Alcohol 5 per
39 cent, a reduction, total 100 per cent" -- surprisingly.
40 What is your present state of knowledge Miss Brophy, or
41 Mrs. Brophy?
42 A. I do not mind, I am happy to accept either.
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44 Q. Mrs. Brophy because I am old fashioned if you do not mind.
45 What is your present state of information about the role of
46 alcohol in the diet and health of people who drink?
47 A. Alcohol at above a particular level is harmful.
48 Alcohol at very low levels in some populations, some parts
49 of the populations, is thought to be beneficial but I can
50 give you more information about that if you wish.
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52 Q. Well, I have lots already, thank you. You know the queer
53 paradox of the French heart mortality statistics, do you
54 not, as compared with this country?
55 A. It depends what you mean by that.
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57 Q. They have far more of the wicked fats, cheeses, butters,
58 meats than we do, but their mortality rate from heart
59 disease is about quarter of ours, and do you know one
60 hypothesis which has been attributed to explain that is
