Day 034 - 11 Oct 94 - Page 71


     
     1        A.  It is my conviction that if people have the
     2        information in front of them they will decide for
     3        themselves what choices they may wish to make.
     4        I certainly would hope that people would follow a
     5        healthful diet.
     6
     7   Q.   One way of persuading people or getting people to follow
     8        what you call a "healthy diet" is to scare the life out of
     9        them, is it not?
    10        A.  I do not believe I have done that.  I have tried in
    11        every chapter to be reasonably objective.  However, I can
    12        tell you that the time that I have spent treating cancer
    13        patients, treating stroke patients, scared the life out of
    14        me.  The times in nursing my father who has prostate
    15        cancer has scared me very much, and I do not consider
    16        these simply statistics; these are important issues.
    17
    18   Q.   Nobody, least of all the Plaintiffs in this case,
    19        considers that they are statistics or not important; on
    20        the contrary, Dr. Barnard.
    21
    22        My Lord, there are some other sections of the book which
    23        become a little bit closer to the issue and a little bit
    24        more technical.  I could deal with one of them now and
    25        come back to the rest tomorrow.  I am entirely in your
    26        Lordship's hands really.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You pick a time which is convenient to you.
    29        I am happy to adjourn now or we can go on a little longer.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  The trouble it will mean fishing out other files.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will break off now.
    34
    35   MS. STEEL:   We are not trying to rush or anything, but we
    36        wondered if there would be any indication from Mr. Rampton
    37        about roughly how long he is likely to take.  Mr. Barnard
    38        has booked a flight, but he can change it if necessary.
    39
    40   MR. RAMPTON:  I am not fussed, my Lord.  I shall take as long
    41        as it takes which is likely to be all of tomorrow.  If
    42        Dr. Barnard wishes to go back to the United States either
    43        before then or immediately after then, then he will simply
    44        have to come back again.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would like to avoid that.  When is your
    47        flight booked for at the moment?
    48
    49   THE WITNESS:  Thursday morning.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that, as it were, a positive fixture or 
    52        something which could be put off if necessary? 
    53
    54   THE WITNESS:  If necessary I could change that.
    55
    56   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do believe it would be prudent to move
    57        it to Friday.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  It is important that you finish your
    60        evidence.

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