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     1        stocks?
 
     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We did go through this yesterday really.  It
              keeps the bird calmer.
     3        A.  Yes.
 
     4   Q.   I had assumed that it would be commercially sound to keep
              the lighting as low as is consistent with what other
     5        factors you are taking into account, because the stronger
              the lighting the greater your bills in that respect?
     6        A.  It is the higher the lighting, the more the activity
              of the birds and the more energy they dissipate in not
     7        growing.  They just produce heat instead through their
              activity, so they are spending more time moving about and
     8        not growing so fast.
 
     9   Q.   And that is a greater commercial factor than the cost of
              brighter lighting?
    10        A.  I think that is one of the main reasons why some
              flocks keep it at about one and a half lux which some
    11        flocks are, at that sort of level.
 
    12   Q.   So, if I was thinking of the actual cost of lighting, you
              I think I would be on the wrong track?
    13        A.  I think that is insignificant compared with as a real
              cost.
    14
         MR. MORRIS:  There is a whole subject we want to deal with
    15        fairly briefly which is the laying birds, egg laying
              birds, in the industry.  You have not seen any of
    16        McDonald's suppliers as regards egg laying, have you?  You
              have never studied that?
    17        A.  I have been to one company which, I believe, supplies
              them, yes.  I have not reported on it though.
    18
         Q.   Which company is that?
    19        A.  We are talking about eggs for consumption as eggs in
              McDonald's outlets, are we?
    20
         Q.   Yes.
    21        A.  I have been to Oasters, yes.
 
    22   Q.   With the court's permission, maybe we should leave that
              because we were not aware you had any experience in that,
    23        and we have not prepared questions.
 
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  The reason Dr. Gregory has not made a report
              about Oasters is perfectly apparent.  It is an allegation
    25        of the Defence which has been admitted in its entirety.
  
    26   MS. STEEL:  It has not, though; I do not think it has. 
  
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, it has.
 
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We can look at it if there is a dispute
              about it.  But whether you ask -- this applies not just to
    29        Dr. Gregory but anybody else -- you are not obliged to ask
              the other side's witness questions about a matter on which
    30        he has not embarked in-chief.  You may or may not be able
              to do so.  There might be an argument about whether it is

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