Day 037 - 14 Oct 94 - Page 77


     
     1        terms of calories, is it not?
     2        A.  In terms of what matters to a person, can you define
     3        what you mean by "matters".
     4
     5   Q.   If he tries to regulate his diet so he has a proper
     6        balance within it, enough vegetables, enough so and so,
     7        not too much fat, what he needs to know is what percentage
     8        of his total energy requirement is provided by the
     9        particular item or the particular meal that he eats; that
    10        is right, is it not?
    11        A.  What matters is that people can make informed food
    12        choices.
    13
    14   Q.   Yes.
    15        A.  That they should be readily able to distinguish
    16        between foods that are high-in-fat, specifically and
    17        particularly foods that are high in saturated fat.  I do
    18        not know one ordinary person who sits down and plans their
    19        food intake for the week.  This is really a council of
    20        perfection.  I do know many, many people who are
    21        desperately interested and desperately keen to improve
    22        their diet by eating good food.
    23
    24        The only way they are going to be able to do that is by
    25        knowing the difference between one food stuff and another,
    26        when it comes down to which food shall I eat next, that is
    27        the important part.  You cannot take a grand overview of
    28        the month or the year, or something like that.  People do
    29        not plan their diets like that.  They plan it on an
    30        individual food by food basis.  That information,
    31        I believe, would be very useful.
    32
    33   Q.   It is very widely known, is it not, among those who are
    34        interested in the subject, and I stress those words (and
    35        will stress them again in the course of this case), it is
    36        very widely known by those who are interested in the
    37        subject that one gramme of fat, whether it be saturated or
    38        not, equals nine kilocalories of energy; that is right?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    41   Q.   Is it very difficult to multiply nine by whatever number
    42        of grammes you are given in a chart?
    43        A.  I do not find it particularly difficult, but it is not
    44        something people take into account in their every day
    45        lives.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, those are all the questions I have.
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:  Is it easy for someone to divide the total calories
    50        by whatever this figure for fat is that they have 
    51        multiplied by nine and work out the percentage of energy 
    52        they are getting from fat?  Is it easy for them to do that 
    53        in their head while they are trying to choose a meal?
    54        A.  You will have to restate that.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Start again.
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:  Mr. Rampton insinuated that it would be an easy
    59        matter for someone who was interested to work out the
    60        number of calories they were getting in a particular meal

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