Day 277 - 10 Jul 96 - Page 40
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2 Q. Sorry, that is what Veggies did with the original
3 fact sheet, they made their own copy did they not?
4 A. Well, that appears to be the case, yes.
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6 Q. Then if we go back to this document, after "stuffy texts"
7 it goes on: "Taking action is vital because in the end
8 deeds not words really matter. That is why we support
9 groups such as the Animal Liberation Front who break the
10 law." Am I right that two members of your own group were
11 charged in relation to an incendiary device at a Debenhams
12 store in Luton, not including you?
13 A. I don't see the relevance.
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15 Q. Well, the relevance Miss Steel--
16 A. If you want to ask me whether or not I personally
17 support non-violent direct action, the answer is yes.
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19 Q. Including burning down a store at the cost of £11M -- or
20 was it £8M?
21 A. I do not support any activity which would harm members
22 of the public, or anybody else.
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24 Q. And what about night watchmen?
25 A. What about what?
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27 Q. Night watchmen. Suppose there had been a night watchman in
28 that store?
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think you are saying, you do not support
31 that action?
32 A. I do not know what happened with that action so how is
33 it possible to me to say? All I am saying is I do not
34 support any action which would harm members of the public.
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36 MR. RAMPTON: Just while I find another document, which I may
37 have to come back to after lunch. Thank you. Can I ask
38 you about the last part of this: "If property is used to
39 abuse others it should be destroyed." Do you agree or
40 disagree with that?
41 A. I personally would not have written that if I had been
42 writing this leaflet. But I think that in order to prevent
43 suffering, for example, if people had destroyed the
44 concentration camps during the Second World War in order to
45 prevent the suffering of all the people that were in them,
46 then I think that was perfectly legitimate.
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48 Q. I just want to show you a document. I am not going to show
49 it to anybody else because it is not admissible, it does
50 not go to any issue in the case. Mr. Morris is not allowed
51 to see it either, I am afraid.
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53 MR. MORRIS: I have seen it now.
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55 MR. RAMPTON: Probably you are familiar with that. Do you
56 remember the question I asked you about two members of your
57 group; do you remember the question?
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. Would you now, please, look at that document?
