Day 059 - 01 Dec 94 - Page 71
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2 Q. Get charged?
3 A. McDonald's, yes.
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5 Q. So, if there was a penalty on McDonald's in this country if
6 they did not do recycling, then they would do it, would
7 they?
8 A. I think if it was levied at the same rate as it in
9 Germany there would be no option but to do it.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may just be that the governments of this
12 country and Germany might have some insight into the
13 characteristics of their own population, and the German
14 government thinks there is a greater of prospect success
15 there.
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17 MR. MORRIS: But it is the corporation that has to be penalised,
18 not customers, would they not, if they did not do
19 recycling, so maybe they have an insight into the way to
20 get companies to do ----
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We just do not know, do we?
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24 MR. MORRIS: Well, we know it was the corporation that would get
25 penalised, do we not?
26 A. In this context, yes. In a pure retail context, no,
27 the customer gets penalised.
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29 Q. Yes, but you are the customer?
30 A. In this context, yes.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How is it going in Manchester? Are the
33 Mancunians showing themselves more adept at sorting out
34 polystyrene, or have the stores there just accepted the
35 responsibility of emptying the bins and sorting out the
36 polystyrene which should be there from the paper and
37 cardboard which should not?
38 A. I think it is fair to say, my Lord, that recycling in
39 Manchester has improved over Nottingham. If we had a
40 national -----
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42 Q. Because the customers have become used to separating it?
43 A. Yes.
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45 Q. Or how?
46 A. They have become used to it. Once it becomes a habit
47 it gets better and better frankly.
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49 Q. So once you get over what may be the first resistance to
50 it, it turns out to be fairly successful, does it?
51 A. Yes. I think if it was viable and meaningful, or even
52 a legal requirement and we had to do this, it would work.
53 We are not saying by the Nottingham example that it could
54 not work. We are just saying what we found basically, but
55 it could work, yes, if it had to.
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57 MR. MORRIS: Can we just, while we finish off this particular
58 subject, go to a document that was served today? It was
59 the German ----
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