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     1        was not with Mr. Morris when he prepared the affidavit or
     2        swore it, but I do remember that a few weeks -- or a few
     3        days, I am not really sure exactly how long after, but
     4        within a couple of weeks of the time when he had done the
     5        affidavit Mr. Morris showed me the affidavit when I was on
     6        the tube.  We were travelling somewhere, I cannot remember
     7        where.  He gave it to me to read, because, I mean, I have
     8        actually been involved with the Unwaged Centre and the
     9        Claimants Union from time to time because, obviously, I
    10        lived in Haringey, so, you know, I had an interest in what
    11        was going on in Haringey.
    12
    13   Q.   Well, there is an account of it in your affidavit.  You put
    14        the affidavit in for the purposes of the application to
    15        amend?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   If you want that to be part of your evidence now all you
    19        need say is that it is true, if that is what you to say,
    20        subject to any additions or alterations you want to make to
    21        it.
    22        A.  Yes, it is true and, yes, I do want to have it in as
    23        part of my evidence.  I do clearly recollect Mr. Morris
    24        showing me the affidavit on the tube and me saying to him,
    25        "What on earth does it say that for", and Mr. Morris's
    26        reaction being that he had not even noticed that it said
    27        that and then he was, sort of, saying does it really
    28        matter, you know, we have got enough on our plate as it is,
    29        we were charging around trying to sort out the schedule for
    30        the next lot of witnesses and doing other things for the
    31        case.
    32
    33             So, he was not keen on going to get it sorted out just
    34        because of the amount of hassle it would involve, and the
    35        fact that it was so peripheral to the other case and had
    36        nothing to do with this case.  But when we discussed it he
    37        agreed that, yes, it was important to go and set the record
    38        straight because obviously, you know, when it was pointed
    39        out he obviously knew that it was not true, so it was
    40        important to set the record straight.  And then a few weeks
    41        later, or a few days later, I cannot really remember
    42        exactly when, but fairly shortly afterwards he told me that
    43        he had contacted the solicitors and that they had said that
    44        they would amend it.
    45
    46             Obviously, basically, what it says is completely
    47        untrue.  I did not have any hand in producing the
    48        fact sheet, and to the best of my knowledge neither did
    49        Mr. Morris.  If I just say, actually, that in October 1986
    50        Mr. Morris was actually living at the same address as me.
    51        It was a housing cooperative and there were about six or
    52        seven people living there, and I do not remember ever
    53        seeing the fact sheet or a draft of it, or anything like
    54        that, being brought back to the house.  I do not remember
    55        Mr. Morris saying anything about it, and I am sure that I
    56        would have done if he had mentioned it to me, or if he had
    57        shown it to me I am sure I would have remembered it.  I
    58        mean, obviously, I was not involved in the group at the
    59        time, so that is about as much as I know about it.
    60

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