Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 19
1 book, to which I shall be referring in due course.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is DJK5.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: Then, my Lord, the tables originally used ----
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is behind tab 4.
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9 MR. RAMPTON: I have got them in front of. I have got them as
10 DJK4. In front of the huge forestry book there are a whole
11 set of tables running from page 50 to page 57.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: All I need to know is what is the longhand
14 number at the bottom, Mr. Morris?
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16 MR. MORRIS: It is 9 onwards, and it is number 13. There are
17 two charts, number 13 and 14, and in fact there is just a
18 whole series of charts. The first one is McDonald's paper
19 packaging, sideways.
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21 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, in that case, Mr. Morris is talking
22 about Mr. Kouchoucos' second statement, which is tab 4, not
23 tab 3.
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25 MR. MORRIS: Sorry about that.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us get it straight.
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29 MR. RAMPTON: Yellow 3, tab 4, which is Mr. Kouchoucos' second
30 statement. The file page number with the stamp on it is
31 349 behind main tab 4, where a figure of 7 percent is given
32 for 1989. There is a 13 which has been written in
33 manuscript. Does your Lordship have it?
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: Good. Thank you very much.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. I have got -----
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41 MR. RAMPTON: What happened, if your Lordship remembers, was
42 that when Mr. Langert gave evidence after Mr. Kouchoucos,
43 he said he thought Mr. Kouchoucos was wrong; it was
44 something around 19 percent, Mr. Langert thought. So Mr.
45 Kouchoucos went away and re-did the calculations. The
46 re-done results are at appendix 5 of tab 1A of yellow 12
47 and the figure given there is 17 percent, although it does
48 not include a number of items.
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50 MR. MORRIS: Well, I do not think it helps us at all. I think
51 it makes even more confusion. I think we have to rely on
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Does it make any difference to your point
55 whether it is 6 or 16?
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57 MR. MORRIS: Not particularly. I think that the point also
58 would be -- well, as they say, much material is not
59 considered by Persico in their calculations, in any event,
60 and also, of course, if it is not post-consumer, we would
