Day 195 - 04 Dec 95 - Page 31


     
     1        right, on wheels, so it was very possible that you move
     2        around, in the rush to get the meat prepared you move
     3        around, hit the trolley, it moves around and the top plate
     4        comes off.  It was easy to happen.
     5
     6   Q.   Over the page to page 7, it says that regarding lack of
     7        taxies for you, you might have been one of the employees
     8        who lived on the route home of one of the Managers who
     9        could have given you a lift.  Do you have any comment about
    10        that?
    11        A.  One of the Managers, as it happened, did live on the
    12        same route as myself, but we were not always on the same
    13        shift, evening shift, and it is really beside the point
    14        anyway.  I mean, it was not -----
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are not complaining about not getting a
    17        taxi yourself because you are a man and it was only a 10
    18        minute walk?
    19        A.  I was not complaining but I was concerned about
    20        specially girls.
    21
    22   Q.   I understand that, but you are not complaining about your
    23        own situation?
    24        A.  No.
    25
    26   Q.   So it would not matter whether there was a Manager going
    27        your way or not?
    28        A.  That is correct.  I would obviously have taken the
    29        advantage of the opportunity if I was offered.
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  The rap sessions, just one point there, he says in
    32        his third line:  "We thought a fairer cross-section would
    33        be achieved by asking whoever was working at the particular
    34        time scheduled of the session to attend if they wanted
    35        to."  Do you have any comment on that?
    36        A.  Yes.  I do not know how it can be; I mean, people were
    37        scheduled to work not because it was, you know, a fair
    38        cross-section of people to work on that shift, but it was
    39        because they had -- because of other reasons, other
    40        factors.   So, I cannot really work out how it could have
    41        been that people on the shift could have represented a fair
    42        cross-section of the workers anyway.
    43
    44        In any case, it did not happen that way at all.  You were
    45        either dispensable and you could go on the rap session,
    46        attend the rap sessions, or you were on your break and
    47        there is no way that if you were needed in the kitchen you
    48        could have gone to a rap session, absolutely no way.
    49
    50   Q.   On point 17 he says, third line:  "It is policy to treat 
    51        the close as midnight."  Then he says:  "Managers would 
    52        allow a five-minute break if the close did not take place 
    53        until 1 a.m."  Have you any experience with Mark Davis on
    54        that shift?
    55        A.  I have had closes, I had closes when Mark was running
    56        the shift, and we never had a break after close.  It was in
    57        the -- it was exactly the opposite.  If any other Manager
    58        or Floor Manager was or happened to be running the shift
    59        and gave us a five-minute break, they would have asked us
    60        not to mention it to Mark because he would have objected to

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