Day 116 - 26 Apr 95 - Page 20
1 Q. What I want to know, assuming, Mr. Nicholson, that that one
2 female who worked more than 96 hours in that period is the
3 same C.A. Watts that we see who is aged 17 on page 708 of
4 the bundle, how is it that they can go about identifying
5 her and identifying the number of hours which she worked
6 during that period?
7 A. The computer would throw that up.
8
9 Q. The computer would tell you that?
10 A. Yes, it would.
11
12 Q. Are these numbers kept on a computer?
13 A. Yes, they are.
14
15 Q. You see those fat ones by your left hand?
16 A. Yes.
17
18 Q. How long are those kept?
19 A. In the Operations branch and in the Personnel branch --
20 I call them Personnel -- Human Resources branch as they
21 call themselves now, they would be kept until the officer
22 responsible had felt he had dealt with the matter, if it
23 highlighted the matter. In the payroll department there
24 are kept for between three and four months and then
25 destroyed. Once we have satisfied ourselves that the
26 reason they were produced, to highlight this kind of
27 overtime being worked, once that had been dealt with, the
28 document is no longer required.
29
30 Q. Do you know how it was that we came to have the summaries
31 for this particular period which you have there for the
32 purposes of this case?
33 A. Yes, because I made my statement and put some detail of
34 this particular exercise into my statement. I was then
35 asked to produce the supporting documentation, and this was
36 the time at which I went to Payroll and I got the three
37 months/four months that they had in their possession.
38
39 Q. If one looks through to page 715 one sees that one ends up
40 at 22nd December ---
41 A. Yes.
42
43 Q. -- 1993. Were there no ones for any earlier period
44 available at the time when we asked you ---
45 A. No.
46
47 Q. -- for these documents?
48 A. No.
49
50 Q. Do you think this system has been going certainly for some
51 years before that?
52 A. Oh, yes.
53
54 Q. Can you then close the big one? We do not need that any
55 more because I only needed that just for the purpose of
56 illustration. Stick with the ones which are in tab 44 to
57 51. You turn over, please, to tab 45 which is page 709.
58 It does not appear that there was any young person during
59 that period who worked for more than 96 hours, would that
60 be right?
