Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 57


     
     1   MS. STEEL:   OK.  9th August.  Have you got the notes?
     2        A.  Yes, I have.
     3
     4   Q.   Do you remember who was at this meeting?
     5        A.  I can only go from the notes, the report that was
     6        written the following day.
     7
     8   Q.   That first paragraph would have been about who the people
     9        were who were attending the meetings?
    10        A.  Yes.  That is how I normally started.
    11
    12   Q.   It would not have been about anything else?
    13        A.  I cannot say.  It does not mention anything else.
    14
    15   Q.   Were you likely to go on to a different subject in the
    16        first paragraph?
    17        A.  It is possible, yes.
    18
    19   Q.   What about between the names of Alan from Catford and
    20        Charlie, would it be likely to talk about a completely
    21        different subject?
    22        A.  I see what you mean.  Probably not.
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  There would have been some other names of people
    25        that attended the meetings?
    26        A.  It would appear to be that way, yes.
    27
    28   MS. STEEL:   In your notes, you have said: "The meeting was
    29        chaired by Jane and the meeting lacked the direction of
    30        last week, probably due to the absence of the leading
    31        members of the group."
    32
    33        Now, you have not put any names in there, but in your
    34        statement you have put my name, Mr. Gravett's name and
    35        Mr. Morris' name?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   Again, is that because, basically, you knew that the action
    39        was about myself and Mr. Morris?
    40        A.  No.  That was because when yourself, Mr. Morris and or
    41        Mr. Gravett were at meetings, decisions seemed to be
    42        taken.  When you were not present, not much seemed to
    43        happen.
    44
    45   Q.   Charlie and Mark that are referred to there, had you seen
    46        them at many meetings?
    47        A.  Charlie, yes; Mark, no -- not at many meetings.
    48
    49   Q.   Alan, as we know, is a private investigator.  You go on to
    50        say that you had the impression that no one present wished 
    51        to be definitive about such matters -- which is about the 
    52        workshops, I think. 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.  "...because whatever they said would be overruled by the
    56        non-existent hierarchy.  The latter disagreed."  So this
    57        was your impression?
    58        A.  Yes.
    59
    60   Q.   Nobody actually said, "We are not going to make a decision,

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