Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 45


     
     1        organisation to do with the fayre?
     2        A.  I cannot remember.  I just did not approve of what they
     3        were asking.
     4
     5   Q.   For example, organising the videos?
     6        A.  He may very well.  I cannot remember exactly, but he
     7        wanted to get more deeply involved.  I am not sure whether
     8        I told them on that day that they were not to do it or
     9        whether be listened to what they had to say and then
    10        Mrs. Brinley-Codd and I sat down and discussed it, but the
    11        end result was they were told 'no'.
    12
    13   Q.   But this was late in the day, shortly before they pulled
    14        out of the investigation?
    15        A.  Yes.
    16
    17   Q.   You did not have a similar meeting with any of the agents
    18        from Kings or--
    19        A.  No.
    20
    21   Q.   Did you have a similar discussion with any of the directors
    22        from Kings?
    23        A.  No, the matter was never raised with Kings.
    24
    25   Q.   Do you know of an agent -- or, not an agent, of somebody
    26        called Ian Bush -- who either was an agent or?
    27        A.  No.
    28
    29   Q.   From a company?
    30        A.  No.
    31
    32   Q.   Can I ask you something about the Economic League?  You
    33        were subscribing to the Economic League.  Your company, not
    34        you?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   It is correct, is it not, that basically the League had a
    38        political vetting service for prospective employees, it had
    39        a black list of people, and that was the purpose of
    40        subscribing in order to vet employees before taking them
    41        on?
    42        A.  No, I have never used them for that purpose.  I know
    43        very little about the Economic League.  I know that Terry
    44        Carroll was quite anxious to make use of their services.
    45        I discussed it with him, as I said.  At the time I was
    46        somewhat reluctant but agreed to it going ahead.  They give
    47        us very little.  They did help us with the Transnational
    48        case, I do agree there, and they did bring to attention the
    49        fact that Transnational Information Exchange distributed
    50        your leaflet, in the form complained of, at one of their 
    51        meetings; I have certainly never used them to vet any of 
    52        our employees. 
    53
    54   Q.   Can I just ask, I would like the witness to read the back
    55        cover, it is only fairly short, but it describes the
    56        Economic League.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You had better show it to Mr. Rampton first.
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, strictly speaking that is not necessary

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