Day 121 - 04 May 95 - Page 69


     
     1        A.  Yes.
     2
     3   Q.   You would?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   If they were not, would that be a matter of great concern?
     7        A.  Great concern.  As shown in the video, it is one on one
     8        training.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Are you still on schedule to finish
    11        cross-examining Mr. Nicholson comfortably tomorrow?
    12
    13   MS. STEEL:  Yes.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Because if you are confident of that,
    16        allowing Mr. Rampton to re-examine, in case he wanted to,
    17        we will break off there.  There is one short matter I want
    18        to mention.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  Right, yes.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Unless there is something you must ask
    23        tonight in order to set yourself up for tomorrow?
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:  No, I do not think so.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.  The thing I wanted to mention was the
    28        question of the computer print-outs we got, because I would
    29        like you -- it is another reason for breaking off a few
    30        minutes early -- to turn your mind to the print-outs which
    31        Mr. Nicholson has referred to and, indeed, you
    32        cross-examined him on, some if not all of them from time to
    33        time, and say whether you are prepared to accept that they
    34        are what they purport to be, and you are prepared to accept
    35        the figures on the printout.  If you are, well and good; if
    36        you are not, then it may just be that Mr. Rampton might
    37        have to call evidence (which might be very short) to make
    38        them admissible in evidence.
    39
    40        If either he or Mr. Atkinson makes a list of the ones which
    41        they might want to rely on at the end of the day, then we
    42        can check some time tomorrow as to whether you accept them
    43        or not.
    44
    45        The only reason I mention it is because I do not want to be
    46        spending time thinking about what conclusion I might draw
    47        from some of those figures if, for instance, you are saying
    48        you do not accept the admissibility of the document and Mr.
    49        Rampton is not going to bother to go through the
    50        formalities of proving it.  I can just put it on one side 
    51        and forget it, however much evidence has been adduced on 
    52        the basis that it might be correct. 
    53
    54   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, may I say, a helpful thing would be if
    55        the Defendants did that exercise first because then I need
    56        only bother with those that they do not accept.  If they
    57        accept everything else, then I need not trouble about it.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  It is entirely a matter for you, but if
    60        someone has a complete list, it will not be very long.

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