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     1        altering the diets of children.
     2
     3   Q.   There have been a number of surveys and reports, is that
     4        correct, over the years on the diet and the changing diet
     5        of sections of the population; is that correct?
     6        A.  Yes, certainly on diets, and from them one can
     7        conclude changes if one compares back through report after
     8        report.
     9
    10   Q.   If we go now to The Diets of British Schoolchildren, which
    11        is No. 1 on the list of your references, which is
    12        published by the Department of Health 1989, from the
    13        Sub-committee on Nutritional Surveillance of the Committee
    14        on Medical Aspects of Food Policy.  Is there any
    15        particular part of that you would like to refer us to,
    16        indicating page numbers?
    17        A.  Yes, the areas in which I am particularly concerned
    18        were, if you like, pockets of particularly bad eating
    19        habits.  If I can refer you to pages 31 through to 4, 5,
    20        perhaps, the chapter called Dietary Patterns, chapter 9.
    21
    22   Q.   Just hold on a minute.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are probably going to do it,
    25        Dr. Lobstein, but what would particularly help me is the
    26        references as you come to these surveys which support what
    27        you say in the text of your statement.  For instance, now
    28        we are on school children, the tendency for younger eaters
    29        to be eating large quantities of fastfood, such as burgers
    30        and french fries -- just to take that as an example.
    31        Anyway, page 31 to start with?
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  I suggest we go through this and then I give
    34        Mr. Rampton the book and he can photocopy any of the
    35        tables he wishes to overnight because, as far as we can
    36        see, this book is similar in some aspects to the Grey Book
    37        we had before, Dietary Reference Values, which did not
    38        include any of the background papers, but had references.
    39        Presumably, we have to largely trust the accuracy of the
    40        summaries here, but obviously Mr. Rampton will be able to
    41        look through and check.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He wants to check and that would be normal
    44        practice.  I do not mean to throw you off your line,
    45        Dr. Lobstein, but what I am saying is if there are
    46        specific references, rather than taking the report as a
    47        whole, I need the specific references you particularly
    48        rely on?
    49        A.  Yes, it would be paragraph 2, the second and third
    50        sentence. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Where are we? 
    53        A.  Paragraph 9.2, "Age and sex difference", the comment
    54        on dietary intake there.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  Can you read out the sections so we know which
    57        ones you are referring to?
    58        A.  Paragraph 9.2, second sentence.  "All the children
    59        consumed large quantities of bread, cakes, biscuits,
    60        puddings, milk, meat products, crisps, potatoes and

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