Day 193 - 28 Nov 95 - Page 35


     
     1        given permission to see the union cards that are signed.
     2        So, in actual fact, he does not know exactly who has signed
     3        and who has not signed, by this.  He can, you know, I guess
     4        he can suspect that people sign, but I can tell you -----
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Can I help the court at all?
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can.  It is up to you.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  I might be, you know, on a different planet from
    11        other people, but it is absolutely clear as day that
    12        number 3 is referring to the whole bargaining unit, which
    13        is all the workers in the store, 64 of which were under 18.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  Number 6 says that none of those -- any of those
    18        people who are under 18 that sign a union card, it is
    19        invalid.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not on that point at all.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Oh, right.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am merely asking -- you see, there is
    26        something I have been asked to read, that 64 of 102 persons
    27        in the proposed bargaining unit are under the age of
    28        majority, and 67 people signed.  It does not say that 64 of
    29        the 67 who signed; it says 64 of the 102.  But I just
    30        wanted to check whether there was any question that as many
    31        as 64 of the 67 were under 18.  I have the answer of
    32        Miss Inglis.
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  (To the witness):  I will just read it out,
    35        I mean, in the statement Bonnie McLelland.  Maybe the rest
    36        the court wants to go to it.  I do not think the witness
    37        can find it.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Give us the reference.
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:  It is Bonnie McLelland.  I have got her as page 14
    42        in the document, but I might have a different numbering
    43        system because they have changed round.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you mean in the -----
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  In the witnesses for the Plaintiffs, the Civil
    48        Evidence Act witnesses.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is yellow XIII.  Can you help, Mr. Riley? 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:   She is actually the third from last in my bundle. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yellow XIII, please, and divider 44.  If you
    55        turn back past Mr. Wong and Angie Hall, you come to
    56        Bonnie McLelland, if you start at the very back.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know what number it is.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have numbered mine.

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