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     1        A.  What tab number, please?
     2
     3   Q.   114.  You have got that?
     4        A.  OK.
     5
     6   Q.   A letter dated January 24th 1989?
     7        A.  Yes, I see it.
     8
     9   Q.   Which is about a Shareholder Proposal of the American
    10        Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals to be
    11        brought up at McDonald's Corporation shareholders'
    12        meeting.  If you could turn to page 4 of that document?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   You see the sixth paragraph down which is indented?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   It says that:  "60 per cent of all hogs are now housed
    19        intensively in total confinement".  The reference for that
    20        is Farm Animals:  Husbandry, Behaviour and veterinary
    21        Practice.
    22        A.  Yes.
    23
    24   Q.   Would you accept those figures or do you think -----
    25        A.  Yes, I would.
    26
    27   Q.   Would you accept the figures given in the paragraph above
    28        as well:  "35.6 million cattle raised annually for food in
    29        the US, 88 million pigs, 220 laying hens and an estimated 5
    30        billion broilers chickens"?
    31        A.  OK, you have to go -----
    32
    33   Q.   Approximately, would you accept, that was 1987?
    34        A.  OK.  I am a little bit confused about that entire
    35        statement.  When it says "product testing" I do not know
    36        what they mean.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, you are not being asked about that.
    39        A.  OK.  The animals -- cattle, yes.
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:  In the final paragraph in the middle it says:  "The
    42        company itself says it uses more than one billion Grade A
    43        large eggs per year", you would accept that, would you?
    44        A.  If the company says that, yes.  I do not know how many.
    45
    46   Q.   There is a reference given?
    47        A.  Yes, OK.
    48
    49   Q.   On the following page it says:  "National humane
    50        organisations have identified factory farming as among the 
    51        most significant issues of animal protection".  Is that 
    52        something that you are aware of? 
    53        A.  It is a broad statement.  What national humane
    54        organisation?  I cannot tell you.  I am aware there is a
    55        concern, yes, there is.  I have concerns with animals that
    56        are in confinement as well as those that are not in
    57        confinement.
    58
    59   Q.   Were you aware that in April 1988 the Farm Animal Reform
    60        Movement picketed the opening of McDonald's 10,000th

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