Day 104 - 15 Mar 95 - Page 36
1 A. Yes.
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3 Q. From deboning do they get chilled again?
4 A. They then go into holding chillers, the dispatch
5 holding chillers, which, as we have seen, tend to be at a
6 lower temperature. They tend to be round about one, minus
7 one, and that continues the process even, and certainly
8 holds the prepared meat at the correct temperature.
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10 Q. Just so as to finish off, I would like now, if I may, to
11 deal with Ms. Hovi's allegations which she does not assert
12 constitute breaches of the regulations, but which she
13 asserts, as I have understood it, I think, constitute bad
14 practice and a danger to human health. My Lord, that is
15 paragraph 6 of Ms. Hovi's statement.
16 (To the witness): Starting, Mr. Bennett, at the top of
17 page 16 of your statement she says this: "Alec Jarrett has
18 no laboratory at the premises, neither does it use the
19 services of any outside laboratory". I do not any longer
20 need your comment on that. She says: "There is no
21 sampling programme for the detection of E.coli 0157: H2" --
22 is it H2 or is it H7?
23 A. It is H7.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have H7 when you quote it in your
26 statement.
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28 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, but that is a correction from the original.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there an H2 with which it might be
31 confused or does that just look like a typing error?
32 A. Not at this stage. Microbiologists move so quickly in
33 discovering new strains that I could not put my hand on my
34 heart, but in the present context, no.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. So it looks like a typing error rather
37 than the confusion of another organism.
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39 MR. RAMPTON: I agree, my Lord. I think it is a typographical
40 error. She says: "There is no sampling programme".
41 Having said that there is no laboratory on the premises, no
42 outside laboratory in use, she says: "There is no sampling
43 programme for the detection of that E.coli 0157" which she
44 further alleges is a breach of the McKey's specification.
45 Could you turn, please, Mr. Bennett to page 2 in the
46 Jarrett bundle? Bristol Food Laboratories for 21st
47 February 1994?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. What is that?
51 A. That is a microbiological report from Bristol Food
52 Laboratories testing for E.coli 01 -----
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54 Q. Does it appear you to be specific for E.coli?
55 A. Yes.
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57 Q. E.Coli 0157: H7?
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. The media was a Sorbital MacConkey agar plus MUG -
