Day 180 - 31 Oct 95 - Page 58


     
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     2   MS. STEEL:  Yes.  He said that Bath were paying extra rates
     3        because of difficulties in hiring people and he went on to
     4        say -----
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     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just stop there because we will sort that all
     7        out in a moment.  You put a certain hypothesis for your
     8        question and I have got Mr. Pearson's answer.
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    10   MS. STEEL:  I am just saying he says he thinks the Company
    11        stands at £3.05.
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Very well.  I will have to look at it all.
    14        What was the page where it started?
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    16   MR. RAMPTON:  I am sorry, my Lord, it is ---
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    18   MS. STEEL:  I do not think we have the transcript yet.
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    20   MR. RAMPTON:  -- page 35.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will have a note probably anyway.
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    24   MS. STEEL:   It is further on where he says about the Company
    25        standards.
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    27   THE WITNESS:  I am reminded, my Lord, that in the Catering
    28        Review Group tables we had a £3 provincial rate at
    29        McDonald's, 1993.
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    33   MS. STEEL:   So, in your opinion, does this or does this not
    34        indicate a need for Wages Council protection?
    35        A.  The need for is established by -----
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    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I really do not want to embark on that,
    38        because I am not going to tell the Government what they
    39        ought to do about their minimum wages or things of that
    40        kind.  In so far as it helps me to see whether McDonald's
    41        pay is low by any test, then I think I should hear the
    42        evidence, but -----
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    44   MS. STEEL:   I just thought there was a bit in the leaflet about
    45        McDonald's taking advantage of the absence of a minimum
    46        wage.  That was all.  So, it is kind of relevant to that.
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have had your evidence on that.
    49        Mr. Pearson has given his view.
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    51   MR. MORRIS:  What defines a full-time worker?  What is the 
    52        normal position? 
    53        A.  Well, between 16 and 16 hours over in the Statute
    54        but  .....
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    56   Q.   Over 16 hours?
    57        A.  Yes.
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    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  For what purpose?
    60        A.  I am sorry?

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