Day 166 - 28 Sep 95 - Page 21


     
     1        A.  Barring days off, yes.
     2
     3   Q.   Did you work all day?  It was just you started to say 9.00
     4        until ---
     5        A.  Yes.
     6
     7   Q.   -- something and then you said "in the mornings"?
     8        A.  Yes, I corrected myself by saying "9.00".  I did not
     9        mean to say "9.00", so that is why I said "mornings".
    10
    11   Q.   But were you only working in the mornings or were you just
    12        not working alongside him in the afternoons?
    13        A.  I mainly did a lot of opens which was start for me at 6
    14        o'clock.
    15
    16   Q.   Until when were you working alongside Mr. Magill, until
    17        what time of day?
    18        A.  Well, I always had the impression that he used to
    19        finish at 2 o'clock which was when the breakfast people, by
    20        and large, would finish shifts.  Breakfast finished to the
    21        customer at 11 o'clock, but the breakfast shift, so to
    22        speak, in terms of the staff would finish at 2.00.
    23
    24   Q.   Do you actually know what time he finished work?
    25        A.  Yes, Mick was, as far as I recall, used to work 7.00
    26        until 2.00, Monday to Friday.
    27
    28   Q.   Would you accept that Mr. Magill, who made his statement
    29        shortly after he had left work, I believe, or certainly
    30        within a year or so, said that he worked until 4 o'clock on
    31        most occasions; would you accept that?
    32        A.  I do not remember him doing that because he was a
    33        person, I remember, that started as a -- I was employing
    34        more breakfast time workers to start at 7.00.  We opened
    35        the doors to the public at 7.00 and 2 o'clock was the time
    36        that they finished.  I would, for instance, do a 6.00 until
    37        2.00.  Whether I stayed on or not, that was up to me.  We
    38        would have staff come in throughout the day at 8.00, 9.00,
    39        10.00, 11.00, 12.00 that would go on until 3.00, 4.00,
    40        5.00, 6.00, 7.00, 8.00.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, may I intervene to ask a question?
    43        I notice that Ms. Steel said that Mr. Magill made his
    44        statement shortly after leaving work, or something like
    45        that.  My copy of it is not dated.  The only date I can
    46        give to it is Mr. Magill's letter -- no, I am sorry it is
    47        the letter itself which gives us the clue.  Sorry, that was
    48        a question I need not have asked, because he says he made
    49        the statement during November 1987 in the letter which
    50        accompanies his statement. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes. 
    53
    54   MS. STEEL:   Mr. Magill says in paragraph (6) of his statement
    55        that he worked Monday to Friday from 7 a.m. until 4 p.m..
    56        He says he only ever worked in the back room and on the
    57        tills, not on any of the cooking jobs.  Would you accept
    58        that?
    59        A.  No.  I always remembered him as finishing at 2 o' clock
    60        along with other breakfast workers because they start at

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