Day 116 - 26 Apr 95 - Page 23


     
     1        A.  They are between 11 p.m. and 7.00 a.m.
     2
     3   MR. RAMPTON:  Looking at those figures, can you just glance
     4        through all those I think there are seven tabs?  As I said,
     5        we see none for the period 29th September?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   I think there are four for 13th October, there is one for
     9        27th October?
    10        A.  Yes.
    11
    12   Q.   Three for 10th November?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   One for 24th November?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Three for 8th September, then seven in the period just
    19        before Christmas, 22nd December ---
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.   -- 1993.  Looking at those figures overall, some, I think
    23        the greatest number, is something like 110 which is the
    24        highest number.  That is that first one for Miss Watts.
    25        First, is that an exceptional set of figures from your
    26        experience of running this particular analysis system or
    27        not?
    28        A.  No.  Three to four per pay period would be about what
    29        I would expect to get in an organisation where you have
    30        28,000 hourly paid workers, four people working
    31        over 96 ------
    32
    33   Q.   That is the second thing I was going to ask you about it.
    34        One notices that all these places, I think, fall within the
    35        Greater Metropolitan Police area?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   Would figures have existed for the country at large at this
    39        time or not?
    40        A.  Yes, they would.
    41
    42   Q.   Would they be likely to have been the same as London or
    43        would they have been less or greater, do you think?
    44        A.  Well, possibly less because most of the very large
    45        volume stores are in the London area, but there are one or
    46        two stores out there that are very large, Milton Keynes,
    47        Manchester.  They may very well have the odd crew person
    48        who works on the very odd occasion excessive hours, but we
    49        would regard this as excessive hours.
    50 
    51   Q.   You have answered my next question.  How much concern would 
    52        you have, if, you know, these figures had been put -- this 
    53        is after your time, as it were ---
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   -- but these figures had been put in front of you, let us
    57        say, 1990, what sort of concern would you have had about
    58        them?
    59        A.  I would have asked the field Personnel Officer
    60        responsible for that store why it was necessary.  It would

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