Day 209 - 25 Jan 96 - Page 53
1 A. Yes.
2
3 Q. -- your recollection when I was talking to you on the
4 phone?
5 A. I remember he and Kevin Perret, I was upstairs in the
6 crew room once, and they were, you know, quite annoyed
7 about the fact that they were saying: "I had better get my
8 back pay, I had better get my back pay, because my PR is a
9 year overdue". I remember Kevin saying, I do not remember
10 Jagon saying his was a year overdue, but I remember Kevin
11 saying his was a year overdue. Jagon just said he never
12 got his on time.
13
14 Q. Right. I will try to push on really. On pages 78 and 79
15 in that tab, tab 5, you have two PRs dated the same date,
16 apparently?
17 A. Right.
18
19 Q. Can you throw any light on that?
20 A. I cannot explain it, you know.
21
22 Q. Do not worry.
23 A. Perhaps, I do not know, there is one just a month after
24 that so I do not know. He has had two on the same date
25 according to the dates and one a month later.
26
27 Q. Right. OK. We will try to move on from this subject
28 generally.
29
30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If that is a valid point about Jagon Flint
31 for a year and the previous Manager, it would be during
32 Mr. Charlesworth's reign as Store Manager that they have
33 not been done?
34 A. Right. The Manager afterwards was Dave Wynne, would
35 that be right?
36
37 Q. The second of Mr. Flint's ones, the one which has the note
38 on it, is about 10 days after Mr. Wynne took over from
39 Mr. Charlesworth. Mr. Rampton helpfully gave us the other
40 day a list of the Managers and their dates.
41 A. That would be the time when Kevin and Jagon were in the
42 crew room saying that they had better get their backdated
43 pay, because I remember going to see him as well, because
44 I had a PR done by him, and I wanted to -- mine was well
45 overdue as well and I wanted to make sure I got, you know,
46 more than 10p. I do not know when my review is from Dave
47 Wynne.
48
49 Q. Were things particularly slack when Mr. Charlesworth was
50 Manager?
51 A. Yes, but not particularly more so than they were with
52 any other Manager. They were fairly bad when Jane Jarvis
53 was there; the same fairly bad when Alan was there; slight
54 improvement when Dave Wynne was there and then back to
55 fairly bad again, this PR, PRs wise.
56
57 MR. MORRIS: If you go to tab 7 page 136 ---
58 A. 137, yes.
59
60 Q. -- at 136 in tab 7 you said -- this is John Gore's
