Day 075 - 17 Jan 95 - Page 43
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2 MR. MORRIS: It is the statement of Clay Harris.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is section C tab 2.
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6 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
7 A. The letter to the Financial Times?
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9 Q. Yes. This is the Consumer Industry's editor, the Financial
10 Times. He has made a statement for us backing up the truth
11 of the article.
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13 MR. RAMPTON: He has not yet given evidence, Mr. Morris.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, he is just asking to look at his
16 statement.
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18 MR. MORRIS: No, as I said accurately, he has made a statement
19 for us verifying the article. If you just read the second
20 page which maybe the best one to have a quick look at, his
21 interview with Mr. Paul Preston. Just quickly glance
22 through that.
23 A. Yes.
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25 Q. As far as you know, in your discussions with McDonald's,
26 did they carry out a recycling scheme on this scale?
27 A. I do not know that. I have not had discussions with
28 them that would lead me to conclude one way or the other.
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30 Q. Did they mention anything to you about this recycling
31 scheme?
32 A. You will recall in answering the question about my
33 conversation in America, I said when I came back we
34 discussed what they were doing in America, and it was at
35 that time I was told what they were considering doing in
36 this country.
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38 Q. Were they considering this kind of scheme at that time?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. So this report would coincide with what you were told?
42 A. I would think it is consistent with what I understood
43 at the time, yes.
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45 Q. If they did not carry out that scheme, and you are not sure
46 whether they did or not, but if they did not carry out that
47 scheme, they just had that scheme say, for example, in
48 Nottingham for a number of years in the early 1990s, they
49 are not actually doing any recycling, are they, on any kind
50 of scale of post-consumer waste?
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You just put a hypothetical situation which
53 he does not actually know about and asked him what the
54 consequences are. That is really a matter for argument to
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57 MR. MORRIS: Would the Nottingham scheme, as stated in that
58 McFact Card, really be any significant pilot scheme for
59 testing the feasibility of recycling?
60 A. In so far as my knowledge of it, the way in which it
