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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Whatever the position was there, it is
3 perfectly understandable in a case with the wealth of
4 detail that this has got, but it sounds to me as if you may
5 have been confusing thinking of McKey when, in fact, that
6 paragraph relates to Sun Valley, Mr. Morris, because the
7 10,000,000 was a figure we were contemplating in relation
8 to McKey, was it not?
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10 MR. MORRIS: So the finished product specification from Sun
11 Valley is now 1,000,000?
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The Sun Valley ---
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15 MR. MORRIS: Maximum.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- one is.
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19 MR. MORRIS: And it used to be 5,000,000?
20 A. Yes, McDonald's have always said 5,000,000 is fine on
21 the finished product, but in 1989 Sun Valley felt they
22 could offer us an even better product, so in their internal
23 specification they said: "Well, we can reach 1,000,000 so
24 that is what we are going to aim at".
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26 Q. So before 1989 you would have been getting products up to
27 5,000,000 microbiological, anywhere up to 5,000,000, and
28 that would have been acceptable, acceptable to Sun Valley
29 and to you?
30 A. Yes, but they obviously felt that they were able to
31 meet a better specification than that, so they do.
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33 MS. STEEL: No further questions.
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35 Re-examined by MR. RAMPTON
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37 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Kenny, could you please find volume yellow IX
38 -- you had it a moment ago -- and please turn to Dr. Mark
39 Pattison's presentation to McDonald's staff of 1st April
40 which is in tab V behind his statement, I hope.
41 A. Yes.
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43 Q. This relates to broiler chickens. It was suggested ----
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45 MS. STEEL: Sorry, was that evidence?
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47 MR. RAMPTON: No. The questions I am about to ask relate --
48 sorry, not broiler chickens, relate to battery chickens.
49 It was suggested to you that the conditions in which
50 battery chickens are kept are, what shall I say, a
51 constraint on Freedom D on the first page of that paper,
52 because they cannot have dust baths; do you remember that?
53 A. Yes.
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55 Q. I think your evidence was to the effect, Well, that is all
56 very well; it may or may not be so; you were not aware that
57 it was so, but it was a question of balance?
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. Can we have a look at the other four freedoms, please?
