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     1        cross-examined, to say that the beef was not from
     2        rainforest land.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All I am saying is they did not use it to
     5        try and persuade Prince Phillip.  We can forget Prince
     6        Phillip, can we not?  No disrespect to him.   He is only
     7        of historic significance in the case because what he was
     8        alleged to have said led to a great fuss.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:   All right.  I think the Vestey reference, and I
    11        am sure that you made a note at the time, in terms of the
    12        evidence that he gave, was pages 45 to 47, which --
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Which day?
    15
    16   MR. MORRIS:   I am not sure what day he gave evidence.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Of whichever day it was.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:   Yes, that he gave evidence.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will be able to find that easily.
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    24   MS. STEEL:   Day 276.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:   We have got a list of who appeared on what days,
    29        if you need it.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I have my own in my room.  I made one the
    32        days when they gave evidence and what their topics were.
    33        So there is no problem with Lord Vestey, because he gave
    34        evidence for about an hour on one morning only.  It is
    35        where you have got people like Mr. Cesca or Dr. Gonzalez,
    36        who gave evidence for several days, that I need help.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:   Right.  I did sort of lose the point I was
    39        originally making, which was there was an example of a
    40        supplier giving McDonald's the reassurance that they had
    41        sought to smooth over any public, you know, embarrassment
    42        and basically it just not being true.  I mean, even if it
    43        was not used in the end, McDonald's was seeking a
    44        guarantee and they got the guarantee but it turns out the
    45        reality was different.
    46
    47        Might that be a convenient time to break?
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, we will come back at two o'clock.
    50
    51                         (Luncheon Adjournment)
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:   We are still in the area of policy.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   You had been making some points on Lord
    56        Vestey's letter and his evidence.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:   Right.  Yes, I mean, that was a sort of a bit of
    59        a digression, but it related to the unreliability of
    60        information from suppliers and we branched out into, of

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