Day 182 - 02 Nov 95 - Page 19
1 A. Yes. "8: A representative of the kitchen closers will
2 be participating in a representation meeting, a meeting of
3 representatives, which will be held every other month", and
4 then signed for McDonald's Norway, Martin Graham, and for
5 the kitchen closers, Richard Y Asante.
6
7 MR. MORRIS: The increase in wages -- it is an obvious question
8 -- that 40 per cent extra, was that in existence for
9 closers before this dispute?
10 A. No.
11
12 Q. What about paid breaks?
13 A. No.
14
15 Q. OK. That is that. If we move on from that situation: You
16 said that you did not know who was in the union at that
17 time, is that correct, or something like that?
18
19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No.
20
21 MR. MORRIS: You did not know that they were -----
22
23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He accepted that Mr. Holm may not have known
24 who was a union member and who was not, but -- my note --
25 "It was probably true he did not know who were union
26 members, but he probably knew many of them were members,
27 but that they were probably afraid of letting anyone
28 know". That was the effect of it.
29
30 MR. MORRIS: What was the situation for other union members at
31 the store around this time or were there other union
32 members at this store?
33 A. Well, after the picket line, when I got this leaflet,
34 when it said that there will be a strike on, I set about to
35 find out what the circumstances were, because I had not
36 heard anything about this. The reason for that was that
37 the HRAF had not registered me as working at McDonald's.
38 So, as it happened, I was not informed of any of this which
39 was happening, kind of, behind the scenes. There was no
40 talk about this in the restaurant.
41
42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: This is the closers?
43 A. Yes, the closers, and so I went to the HRAF and they
44 were delighted to have another member at McDonald's, and
45 there had been single, individual members in my store as
46 well but who had not come forward or who had not been open
47 about their engagement in the union.
48
49 MR. MORRIS: So, while you were working there, there were other
50 union members?
51 A. Yes.
52
53 Q. But you did not know who they were?
54 A. No, we never talked about that.
55
56 Q. Can you explain what your feeling -----
57
58 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord -- Mr. Morris, please -- we have had one
59 piece of hearsay which is what the HRAF told this gentleman
60 about the number of members; what we cannot have now, I did
