Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 49
1 Q. 29.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Your Supplementary bundle.
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5 MS. STEEL: The Second Supplementary. I think it is in
6 supplementary bundle No. 2, I am not sure.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Anyway, you carry on.
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10 MS. STEEL: That is the right bundle. I think I have a spare
11 copy.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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15 MS. STEEL (To the witness): Are you familiar with the Simmons
16 Engineering Company, Stunning and Killing Technology?
17 A. Familiar, no. I know who they are. I know they
18 manufacturer equipment. I know Sun Valley has this
19 particular brand.
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21 Q. It says it is the most widely used in America -- is it?
22 A. I do not know which one is. The last time, when you
23 asked me before, I answered I do not know which one Tyson
24 is using.
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26 Q. I mean, there are pictures there of some of the parts of
27 the equipment. Does that look anything like ---
28 A. I do not know.
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30 Q. -- the equipment?
31 A. The equipment that is at Tyson is cover or it is not
32 quite visible.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Where can you go from there?
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36 MS. STEEL: I was just checking there was not anything else
37 I wanted to raise.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can we put that one away then?
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41 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We will just have a two or three minute break
44 anyway, but I will stay here. Sit down, if you want to,
45 Dr. Gomez. (Pause) Are you looking to see if there is any
46 more to do in relation to methods of slaughter of the
47 chickens, so far as Dr. Gomez is concerned?
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49 MS. STEEL: I think I have finished on chickens because he does
50 not seem to actually know that much about the procedure
51 anyway.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, as the Court of Appeal, in effect, said,
54 if you had been able to plead a case properly then you can
55 use cross-examination to try to support your case, but if
56 you get answers from a witness that he just does not know,
57 that is the end of it so far as he is concerned. Do you
58 want a five-minute break, in fact?
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60 MS. STEEL: It might be a good idea actually.
