Day 190 - 23 Nov 95 - Page 37
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are we talking about the same thing?
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4 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know -- or Lynval said.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Because on page 11 -----
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8 MR. RAMPTON: I am sorry, I am on page 9 still.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well -----
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12 MR. RAMPTON: This is Mr. Alimi, who says it on page 11. He is
13 going to be a witness. If he is going to say it in the
14 witness box, and it may be admissible for the limited
15 purpose -----
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No -----
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19 MS. STEEL: It is speaking of -----
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: As I understand it, Harriet Lamb is saying to
22 the solicitor that they had heard the same story about the
23 closing of a McDonald's store from several McDonald's
24 workers.
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26 MR. MORRIS: Yes, it is the second sentence.
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28 MR. RAMPTON: I had not actually got to that. As it happens, I
29 am still on page 9.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, that is my fault, Mr. Rampton, because
32 that is what I thought you were referring to.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: I do not mind. Of course, it does not matter but,
35 again, one has one's doubts about its admissibility anyway
36 for reasons of relevance. Again, the question arises
37 whether she did, in fact, hear it from several McDonald's
38 workers or whether, in fact, all she is doing is reciting
39 what she was told by Lynval.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We will have to see when she gives her
42 evidence. Sorry, could you go back to 9?
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44 MR. RAMPTON: Back to 9, yes. Your Lordship has already got the
45 point about the first paragraph on 9. It looks as though
46 it comes from Steve Percy -- no, I have got the wrong one.
47 It looks as if they come from the employees themselves and
48 not a matter of direct observation but, again, we will have
49 to wait and see.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is query from Maria.
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53 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, and query from Julie, whose real name is
54 Anna. Then there is mention of the boy, Ian, as well. The
55 next paragraph, the third paragraph, is all taken from
56 Lynval and is, therefore, objectionable on that ground.
57 The last paragraph (incomplete) going over to the top of
58 page 10, I do not see any particular problem with that.
59 That is probably mostly a direct experience, though not the
60 employment of 80 people, but it does not matter.
