Day 105 - 16 Mar 95 - Page 42
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3 Q. There is no form during the day apart from this one?
4 A. No. In one case -- I happen to know currently that the
5 boning room supervisor keeps his forms in a plastic wrapper
6 in his department and the slaughterhouse supervisor keeps
7 his forms in his office.
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9 Q. So if the supervisor was filling in a form during the day,
10 this would be the form he would be filling in while
11 checking, if he is checking the meat temperatures?
12 A. This is his record of his day's work.
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14 Q. Which he would fill in as he was going along?
15 A. No, that would be usual. I mean, the quality control
16 checks are by quality controllers. They are in the
17 department all day, and again it must be said they may
18 decide to fill the form in at the end of the day. They are
19 there to authorise they have done it.
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: One knows that they have done it.
22 A. Yes. If there is a note which needs to be taken they
23 will take it.
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25 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, one can see their names at the top of
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I appreciate that. I am a bit confused by
29 why they should wait until end of the day rather than fill
30 in at 6.30, 7.30 and 7.00 and so on?
31 A. It is something of a mystery. A lot of these employees
32 are not great form fillers. It is no small educational job
33 to get them to fill forms in on what is a fairly new
34 system. As a personal point, I am happy to accept their
35 signature and their authorisation that they have, in fact,
36 carried out the checks on that particular day. They have
37 their own ways of holding the information.
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39 MR. MORRIS: People do not like carrying out these checks and
40 then filling in forms?
41 A. Some do and some do not. I cannot go further than
42 that. Personally, filling forms in is not my favourite
43 occupation; some people quite enjoy filling forms in.
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45 MS. STEEL: You said that people doing the checks have their own
46 way of holding information. Where would they hold the
47 information about temperature?
48 A. They would either hold it on in a notebook, or on an
49 old ticket, or the back of a piece of cardboard. There are
50 weird and wonderful ways in which people jot down the
51 particular information which they can transfer to their
52 sheet.
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54 Q. So they could have all these bits of scrap paper floating
55 around in their pockets which at the end of the day ----
56 A. Only one on the day. It is a way of life in the meat
57 industry where a man is in control of a department with
58 many things to see to, and who has got quite a complex
59 operation. It is just something that I have observed that
60 their way of noting down information, whether it be
