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     1        (To the witness):  But it is made up in England, not
     2        France.
     3        A.  This was from Hereford.  This was before the factory
     4        burnt down.
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  But it is not been conceivable that somebody
     7        educated abroad might be working there?
     8        A.  They do have a number of French employees.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Rampton has asked a question.  Presumably,
    11        these results are not just one out of five tests from a
    12        sample; they must have been a result of a whole -----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Leave Mr. Rampton to continue with it.  If
    15        you have something which puzzles you, then ask Mr. Kenny
    16        when you come to it.  Since you have raised it, Mr. Rampton
    17        may choose to follow it and you must not hesitate to
    18        interrupt if you are not sure where we are or which
    19        document.  Resist the temptation ---
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  It is just some answers ....
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- to ask for elaboration.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  It is more clarification, really.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  Do you know, Mr. Kenny, whether that is just one
    28        sample or whether it represents a whole range of samples at
    29        the precise figure of 770,000?
    30        A.  That was the highest recorded individual result.
    31
    32   Q.   Suppose that you had had a dozen results showing 770,000 in
    33        the dark meat or in all the meat, would it give you any
    34        cause for concern?
    35        A.  It is certainly not a concern for food safety.
    36
    37   Q.   That is what I meant.
    38        A.  Yes.  It would make you, perhaps, go back and have a
    39        look at what the reason for those results were.  That is
    40        the whole idea of having that in there.
    41
    42   Q.   I was going say your specification, your top limit, is
    43        5,000,000 for chicken.  Sun Valley's own specification or
    44        own guidelines, top limit, is one million and we saw that a
    45        moment ago?
    46        A.  Yes.
    47
    48   Q.   This appears to reduce it to 500,000, does it not?
    49        A.  That is the second part of the McDonald's
    50        specification, but it is on the raw meat, yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   In the raw meat. 
    53        A.  The whole point of having a -----
    54
    55   Q.   Yes, I had better go back.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have an average at the end which, in any
    58        event -- what you want is the summary.  You have not only
    59        the highest reading, you have the lowest reading, and then
    60        you can look at the third column, the average, and that

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