Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 65
1 them, but he may have them, he may not.
2
3 MR. MORRIS: In your statement to the Labour Board -- you do not
4 have to go to it -- but it says: "Sarah also said that if
5 Cam decided to randomly fire people they could not fight
6 for my job back if you had given your card back"?
7 A. If I got my card back, right.
8
9 Q. If you got your card back, sorry. Quite a lot of the other
10 statements say similar things. Your understanding of the
11 part of this intervenors' group was that the reason why
12 people did not press for their cards back in your opinion
13 because ---
14 A. I do not know.
15
16 Q. -- it had been said by Sarah that you might get sacked?
17 A. I do not know. I am not everybody else. I am just
18 me. I can only tell you what I know.
19
20 MS. STEEL: You said on Friday 1st October you talked to Sabina
21 about the problem as you saw it in the lobby of the
22 restaurant. Was there a particular reason why you spoke to
23 Sabina?
24 A. Well, Sabina and I were going to go out that night
25 together and we just started talking about the union. That
26 just came up.
27
28 Q. You say that by that time you had both found out
29 independently that Sarah had succeeded in gaining the
30 signatures of a significant number of staff. How had you
31 found that out?
32 A. I did not know for a fact that she had signed a lot.
33 I just -- Chris -- I do not know if it was Chris, I do not
34 know who was saying something, but there was something
35 going round that a lot of people signed. I do not though
36 who told me or .....
37
38 Q. You had both found out independently that she had succeeded
39 in gaining the signatures of a significant number of staff?
40 A. I do not know who I found out from.
41
42 Q. It might have been Chris though?
43 A. I do not know think it was Chris but I do not know. If
44 it was from Chris, it was from that night, not before,
45 because Chris did not know anything about it until we told
46 him.
47
48 Q. Then why should you say that you might have found it out
49 from him?
50 A. If it was from him, it was from that night when we
51 spoke to him.
52
53 Q. That night when you sat down together, you found out from
54 Chris that Sarah had succeeded in gaining the signatures of
55 a significant number of staff; you found that out from him
56 because you and Sabina had already told him?
57 A. No, we did not say anything to Chris until that night.
58 It is the first time we said anything to him.
59
60 Q. So, he knew beforehand?
