Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 59


     
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     2                        (The witness withdrew)
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will take tomorrow as a preparation day
     5        and then come to Mrs. Norris on Friday.
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     7   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  She prefers to be called Mrs. Norris now.
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    11   MR. RAMPTON:  She got married.
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   You may have her as Annette Hall.  I would
    14        have thought we could get through her comfortably on
    15        Friday.  In fact, we may have an early day.
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    17        There are two things I would like to say to you about your
    18        employment witnesses.  First of all, Mr. Morris has already
    19        indicated that he will do his best to get witnesses for
    20        Wednesday the 18th and Thursday the 19th.  I probably do
    21        not have to say to you that it is very much in your
    22        interests to do so because if you have a number of
    23        employment witnesses you are going to call you will
    24        probably find it much easier to manage if they are put in
    25        here and there rather than a steady stream of days with one
    26        or two every day.
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    28        The second thing is the question of Monsieur Lamti as a
    29        result of what Mr. Rampton said this morning.  You do not
    30        have to answer this question unless you want to do so, but
    31        do you have direct contact with him yourself or is it
    32        through someone else who is helping you with the French
    33        side of things?
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    35   MR. MORRIS:  Well, my French is not good enough but somebody is
    36        acting as an intermediary.   I do not want to give too many
    37        details because I do not trust McDonald's one inch.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not say any more than that.  I think what
    40        you have to think about is whether you make some enquiries
    41        as to how Mr. Lamti sees his own position, particularly if
    42        the French proceedings have started since his statement was
    43        taken.
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    45   MR. MORRIS:  Can we ask Mr. Rampton, through you, when the
    46        proceedings were started?
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know?
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    50   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not know, no, my Lord. 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  All that occurs to me that it is 
    53        possible the statement was made and given to you before
    54        there were such proceedings, whether or not Mr. Lamti is
    55        legally represented and whether or not he knows about any
    56        possible restraint on his giving evidence at all or not
    57        I do not know.  Nothing which Mr. Rampton has said,
    58        supposing it is well-founded, has led me to believe that,
    59        even if Mr. Lamti feels diffident about coming, you cannot
    60        use his statement because you have got that.

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