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     1        they did.  Each department head knew who he could allocate
     2        responsibilities to, as long as he accepted that the final
     3        responsibility would be his, accountablility to Paul
     4        Preston or Bob Rae, depending upon what it was, would be
     5        his or hers.
     6
     7   Q.   If somebody did go ahead without your authority and issued
     8        a memo that was damaging to the Company, you would have to
     9        take the responsibility for it, even if you had not seen
    10        it?
    11        A.  Yes, I would accept responsibility.  I cannot ever
    12        remember in an occasion on which it happened in the
    13        Personnel Department, but I would certainly accept
    14        responsibility.  I mean, it would be my lack of management
    15        that allowed that memo to go out, so I would expect to take
    16        back whatever brickbats followed.
    17
    18   Q.   Do you know anything about the letter to all store managers
    19        in Germany in 1979 from the Personnel Office about not
    20        hiring any union sympathisers?
    21        A.  All I know about that is what I have now read as a
    22        result of seeking information you required me to do.
    23
    24   MS. STEEL:  What year was it that you became heavily involved in
    25        the franchising?
    26        A.  1984.
    27
    28   Q.   1984?
    29        A.  Yes.  I have got -- no, you ask your questions.
    30        I started franchising, I started developing the Franchising
    31        Department in 1984.  I began looking for franchisees in
    32        early 1985.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You said Hayes opened in 1986?
    35        A.  Hayes opened in 1986.  I think I opened two restaurants
    36        that year only, but then it developed from there.  So the
    37        workload increased as each year passed.
    38
    39   MS. STEEL:  Between 1984 and 1986, when the stores opened, you
    40        were becoming more and more involved with the Franchise
    41        Department?
    42        A.  I was developing paperwork -- the usual things when you
    43        set up a department -- reports, procedures.
    44
    45   Q.   And less and less involved with the -----
    46        A.  Well, I tried to keep in touch in the early years, 84,
    47        85, 86, with the Personnel because I had just taken it over
    48        and I was extremely interested in it.  But the the time it
    49        got to 87, 88 and 89, I was looking for, may be, 12
    50        franchisees a year.  To find 12 franchisees a year I have 
    51        got to interview at least 120.  I have got to paper sift 10 
    52        times that many.  It is a lot of work. 
    53
    54   Q.   That was the same for the Security Department?
    55        A.  That was the same for the Security Department.  Terry
    56        Carron would bring me serious cases which I would get
    57        involved with, serious cases of crime, fraud, that kind of
    58        thing, and I made sure I kept on top of those
    59        investigations, but someone else did the leg work.
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