Day 122 - 05 May 95 - Page 55


     
     1        approximately 15 to 20 franchised restaurants, my Lord.
     2
     3   Q.   I think you told me how many of the 600 were, did you not?
     4        A.  Yes, I made that enquiry on that Monday; there were 124
     5        restaurants franchised to 93 franchisees.
     6
     7   Q.   By 93 or something like that?
     8        A.  Yes.
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:  On page 9 of your affidavit ---
    11        A.  The same affidavit?
    12
    13   Q.   -- yes, the same affidavit -- in the middle paragraph you
    14        said:  "Unless a specific problem arose regarding clock
    15        cards, e.g. they became evidence in an Industrial Tribunal
    16        application, they would be destroyed by the restaurants
    17        shortly after the fortnight period expired."  That is not
    18        true, is it?
    19        A.  I think it is; that is what I was told.
    20
    21   Q.   Who told you that?
    22        A.  My Personnel staff.
    23
    24   Q.   Which Personnel staff?  Which particular -----
    25        A.  All of them.
    26
    27   Q.   All of them told you that?
    28        A.  I asked them all what the procedures were in the
    29        restaurants.  This is generating a tremendous amount of
    30        paper, these clock cards.  There was a clock card for every
    31        fortnight for every employee who worked in the restaurant.
    32        It very, very quickly became a massive amount of paper.
    33        They are very limited in space, so they would be destroyed
    34        once we felt or once the local management felt their
    35        usefulness had been obtained, because what was on the clock
    36        card was extracted and put on to that sheet of paper,
    37        I take it, that you produced the other day, the record of
    38        hours worked.
    39
    40        There was a store record collated.  That store record went
    41        up to the Payroll Department from which they generated the
    42        payroll.  So there is no point in keeping the clock cards.
    43
    44   Q.   Who told you that they would be destroyed?
    45        A.  I have just answered that.
    46
    47   Q.   Did Lyn Mead tell you that?
    48        A.  She would be one of the people who did.
    49
    50   Q.   And Jill Barnes? 
    51        A.  No, she is not a Human Resource Officer. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Did you make enquiries with any of the stores which are
    54        pleaded in our pleadings in relation to matters ------
    55        A.  No, I did not.  It would be wrong for me say I did not
    56        go to any of the stores.  I asked one or two managers that
    57        I met at Head Office what they did with their records.
    58        I wanted to know what they did with all of their records.
    59        You had raised the point and, in fairness to you, I was
    60        trying to find out from as many people as I could how long

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