Day 104 - 15 Mar 95 - Page 27
1 A. Not knowing anything else than the statement at face
2 value, I am extremely surprised to see that comment there.
3
4 Q. Could you turn, please, to page 67 in the Jarrett bundle?
5 A. Yes.
6
7 Q. It purports to be a document from Bristol Food
8 Laboratories, this one is dated 1st March 1994. It has a
9 number on it. It is addressed to Alec Jarrett for the
10 attention of Mr. Stephen Jarrett. The sampling was done on
11 23rd February, it is said, at quarter to 6 in the morning.
12 The analysis: Bacteriology: TVCs and water sample. I
13 will ask you about water sample in a moment. It describes
14 the methodology. I will not ask you about that. Then we
15 see: Results: Packing room, Boning hall first of
16 all. "Wall, trimtable, wall, trimtable, cutting block,
17 cutting block, band saw table". How would it be possible
18 to give bacteriological counts for those areas of the
19 premises unless some kind of swab or contact plate were
20 used?
21 A. It would be quite impossible to give the information.
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23 Q. Then chiller, "No. 3 wall" and then some tests on some
24 meat. These are for TVCs, are they not?
25 A. Yes.
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27 Q. Beef forequarter and flank coming out ---
28 A. Yes.
29
30 Q. -- at respectively 1500 and -- sorry, do I mean 1500 or do
31 I mean 150? I always get them muddled. Which is it?
32 A. 1500.
33
34 Q. And 3,200 ---
35 A. Yes.
36
37 Q. -- for the beef? Then in the storage chiller also 900 for
38 the beef flank, right?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. "Beef chuck - boned see report No. 10342"; we will see that
42 in a moment. Over the page, page 68: "Cooling hall; wall,
43 weighing table, fat trimmer. Slaughter hall; wall, brisket
44 saw blade, hock cutter blades, Flaymaster" -- that swab
45 result or that swab sample was not available on this
46 occasion -- "Lairage; pen bars and the 4/5" -- what is
47 four-fifths corner post, do you know, or four out of five
48 corner posts, I do not know.
49 A. I do not. I am sorry, I cannot help.
50
51 Q. Nor do I. "Water; external standpipe", now this measures
52 the temperature -----
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is probably a four by five, is it not, but
55 it could be anything anyway.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: It is a four by five, is it, I see. Then we see:
58 "10344 colony count". These seem to have been done by a
59 different method; is that right?
60 A. Yes. There is a different standard applied to water.
