Day 013 - 19 Jul 94 - Page 19
1 A. During the summer, I believe, within the last couple
of months.
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Q. In 1986?
3 A. Are we talking about in the United States? The law
just changed compelling almost all products to have an
4 ingredient and nutritional break out which includes
saturated fats and sodiums, and so forth, and the national
5 change just took place within the last couple of months.
6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: One of the Attorneys General talks about the
need to label packaged food or foods, I think is the
7 phrase he uses. Is that what you are talking about?
8 MR. MORRIS: I think we are getting crossed wires here. I am
talking about in the 70s or 60s, whenever the first laws
9 came in, compelling all -----
10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Forget supermarkets because I would be
surprised if anyone could define what a supermarket is.
11 Are you talking about packaged food?
12 MR. MORRIS: Packaged foods, yes. When did ingredients have to
be put on labelling of packaged foods?
13 A. I cannot remember. It has been some time.
14 Q. But it would have been five, ten, 15 years before 1986?
A. I cannot remember. I cannot remember when it began
15 but it certainly has been a while.
16 Q. A long time, OK. Just a couple of points. We want to
finish this subject off and get on to the next one.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have to go on to the advertising.
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MR. MORRIS: Yes. Just a last question. Could you just repeat
19 why McDonald's Corporation did not want to put the
ingredients on the packaging?
20 A. This was as a result -- you are asking this question
as a result of a comment in one of our letters. Can you
21 just refer me to what you are -- There was initially many
years ago some concern that with all the quick service
22 restaurants, with all the variety, variations of soft
drinks and the variety of pizzas, salads and hamburgers
23 that were being sold with different ingredients and with
customers saying: "Leave the pickles off this one,"
24 "Please put extra ketchup but leave the mustard off that
one", it would be impossible and very expensive to have
25 all of the different types of packaging that one would
need in order to possibly do that. That is why the
26 nutrition booklets were looked at as an alternative.
27 Q. For example, some of your items are completely consistent,
are they not, your apple -- I cannot remember what it is
28 called now -- apple pie packaging contains the same thing?
A. No, that is -- that is correct, but we could not just
29 say, "We will do it for this one and we will not do it for
all the others".
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can we just look at tab 9, 186C; if you just
