Day 134 - 13 Jun 95 - Page 62
1 familiar with.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Does it really matter?
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5 MS. STEEL: It does actually. One of our witness was
6 effectively constructively dismissed for becoming pregnant.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That may be. I will listen carefully to
9 whatever the witnesses say, but in that eight months in
10 question, there were five in London and South; four in the
11 Midlands; 21 in the North -- a total of 30 women out of
12 23,376 people who left who left for maternity reasons. If
13 the particular woman you are calling was badly treated,
14 I will listen to that and see if it is indicative of some
15 general trend. But I am really not going to be able to
16 draw any conclusions as to trends from the presence of 30
17 cases.
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19 MS. STEEL: I was not asking questions about the trends. I was
20 asking questions about the Company's attitude to women
21 becoming pregnant ---
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: She says she cannot remember the memo.
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25 MS. STEEL: -- crew members becoming pregnant.
26 (To the witness): The other thing I wanted to ask was, the
27 second page of this, the chart, at the bottom of it it has
28 "page 32". What is that part of?
29 A. I am not certain, but I think it is part of the
30 document of which you see some pages, you know, the one
31 survey of retail wages and so on, that one which is the one
32 we have been discussing, 93, effectively, November 92.
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34 Q. Right.
35 A. I think that is probably the later pages of that.
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37 Q. That was the one all about ---
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: G2?
40 A. Yes.
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42 MS. STEEL: -- crew employment basically?
43 A. I think it would have been headed "Crew Pay Survey" or
44 something like that, but it will have demographic
45 information like this. I mean, again that is something
46 I can check but I think that is what this document is for.
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48 MR. MORRIS: A question related to that, just in the G2, at the
49 back of G2 -- am I the only one who is confused on this --
50 there is the Catering Review Group survey. Is that
51 different from the rest of G2? It is a completely
52 different survey, is it?
53 A. It is part of the same internal survey, but the source
54 of the information is a different source, we referred to
55 this morning, than the document that you have there in that
56 brown plastic thing. That is what earlier on -- I think it
57 was actually Mr. Rampton who said it, but that is the thing
58 from which we do not now have the papers we worked from.
59 We did happen to have those but we do not have them for
60 them.
