Day 142 - 26 Jun 95 - Page 65


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  That is all we can say.  If it does, it would be
     2        regretful if it did, I hope it will not, but there is
     3        nothing we could do to ensure that it does not.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is in 12?
     6
     7   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Lordship did at one stage a long time ago ask
     8        for an explanation of the relationship between British
     9        government legislation and EEC directives, what the
    10        legislative framework was.  Your Lordship had some idea --
    11        a bit more than I had -- but what we will try to do is get
    12        Barlow's European department to sort that one out and their
    13        employment department to sort out the wage councils, who
    14        they were and what they were empowered to do, and so on and
    15        so forth at different times.
    16
    17        My Lord, I suppose I would have to say that the substantive
    18        or the substantial, I should rather say, applications are
    19        our two discovery applications -- I am talking from our
    20        side now -- and the argument about Ms. Hovi and Mr. Bone.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How long are you likely to take on that?
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  I, my Lord, would not take very long at all on 9
    25        because we have served a statement which indicates by
    26        reference to a key which are the parts of Mr. Bone's
    27        statement which are either entirely new or more or less
    28        entirely new.  We have explained it in the key.  If the
    29        Defendants are disposed to accept that we are right about
    30        that, there need not be any argument at all.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  We certainly do not accept.
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  Therefore, the argument will take sometime, as
    35        I think I have just said.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I am contemplating is -- next witnesses,
    38        Mr. Rampton, are they what I would call individual
    39        witnesses in relation to employment rather than more
    40        general ones?
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, they are.  They are Mr. Stanton next week
    43        who was the Area Supervisor, I think, for Colchester.  He
    44        will be followed by Mr. Davies who was the Manager during
    45        the relevant period at Colchester.  So, they are individual
    46        ones.  Then we just run through various different
    47        individual ones probably until the end of July.
    48
    49        My Lord, what we could try to do, if your Lordship
    50        preferred it -- I have no preferences -- subject to 
    51        availability, we could find, I suppose, a short witness or 
    52        two for the end of next week instead of doing the 
    53        interlocutories, but Mrs. Brinley-Codd -----
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I have in mind at the moment is that if
    56        we started the interlocutory matters on Monday and had
    57        Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of next week for those, and
    58        you timetabled the first of your further employment
    59        witnesses for Thursday and Friday of that week.
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