Day 020 - 28 Jul 94 - Page 58
1 A. I do not know how they were kept.
2 Q. I am not sure I understand. If 40 per cent are kept
indoors, they cannot be kept outdoors?
3 A. Yes, but that is pre-weaning; post-weaning, I do not
know how they were kept.
4
MR. RAMPTON: The word in the report is "breeding".
5
MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I remember that now.
6 A. Sorry.
7 MS. STEEL: So breeding units only encompass up to the first
three weeks of the piglet's life?
8 A. That is correct. The sow is then separated from the
piglets and she says in the breeding unit. The piglets go
9 on to the weaner accommodation.
10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So it may be that all the weaners lived
outdoors?
11 A. It may be; I do not know.
12 MS. STEEL: Then the 40 per cent of sows that were in the
indoor units would remain in the indoor units, would they
13 not?
A. The sows would remain in the indoor units.
14
Q. Right.
15
MR. JUSTICE BELL: There is no rotation of sows, as it were?
16 A. An interesting question.
17 Q. That you were aware of?
A. No, I would have thought it was unlikely. I do not
18 know, but I would have thought it was unlikely.
19 MS. STEEL: All the figures about percentages, they were just
figures given to you, so we have to confirm them with
20 Mr. Bowes?
A. That is to be recommended, yes.
21
Q. You were asked about whether -- you were asked about some
22 of the undesirable effects of tail clipping and teeth --
sorry.
23
MR. JUSTICE BELL: Docking.
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MS. STEEL: Tail docking and teeth clipping?
25 A. Yes.
26 Q. You were also asked whether you saw any evidence of that
in the pigs at Bowes. I think you said it would be
27 difficult to identify?
A. Yes.
28
Q. Right. Do you actually look for those problems?
29 A. You have to have a close examination of individual
animals to identify abscesses in the jaw or to look for
30 hot and inflamed, swollen joints. So you have to grab
hold, first of all, catch your pig. It is that situation,
