Day 058 - 30 Nov 94 - Page 10
1 MR. MORRIS: But we do not know if they have deducted the waste
2 before they gave him the figures or whether they have
3 included that?
4 A. I think, Mr. Morris, and I must read the figures as you
5 must read the figures, that the total input figure is
6 appropriate.
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8 Q. It does not say "input" there, does it, it says -----
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It says "pulpwood", you see, and that is not
11 pulp. That is, I think, what Mr. Mallinson is trying to
12 say. "Pulpwood", that is what you start off with and
13 carton board is what you end up with. So, if 1590 tonnes
14 of pulpwood and 180 tonnes of sawmill chips are required to
15 produce 1,000 tonnes of carton board, the former amounts of
16 pulpwood and chips are what go in at the beginning of the
17 process and the 1,000 tonnes of carton board is what comes
18 out at the end. So, it must have taken account of the
19 wastage, if any, during the process because that is what
20 those terms on the face of it mean. Whether Mr. Thompson
21 is right or not is another matter, but that is the
22 information which Mr. Mallinson has been given.
23 A. That is right.
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25 Q. I would thought that is what it clearly means.
26 A. My Lord, if it is of any help, on page 4 of my original
27 statement I quote Mr. Thompson directly in his statement
28 that for every saleable 1,000 tonnes of carton board, the
29 production process will use 1590 tonnes of pulpwood plus
30 180 tonnes of sawmill residue.
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, that is why I say those figures came
33 from your original statement?
34 A. The two are consistent. We have to rely, obviously, on
35 the experience of those in that business as to the yield.
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37 MR. MORRIS: It then says: "If we are to sustain the 1,000
38 tonnes of pulpwood production we would need 10.19 times
39 production now 40 hectares".
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is because 156 goes into 1590, 10.19
42 times?
43 A. Correct.
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45 MR. MORRIS: It is just that I do not understand the "if we are
46 to sustain 1,000 tonnes of pulp wood production" because
47 that has not been mentioned before; there is no figure of
48 1,000 tonnes that has been mentioned. Does that mean 1590
49 tonnes, is that the position?
50 A. No, Mr. Morris. I refer you back to the reply I gave
51 just a while ago that in my original statement I quoted
52 Mr. Thompson as using the words, "1,000 tonnes of carton
53 board for the production process will use that amount of
54 wood". I suspect that -----
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think he has put "pulpwood" in instead of
57 "carton board", has he not?
58 A. My own feeling is that he should have used the word
59 "carton board" in this one here, because that is what his
60 whole figure, original calculation was based upon.
