Day 258 - 07 Jun 96 - Page 40
1 Q. But that included advising them of who you considered to be
2 people involved?
3 A. No.
4
5 Q. Well, you said that on the last occasion as well. You said
6 that you did not instruct them -- I asked you about whether
7 you instructed them that you were already aware of my
8 identity and Mr. Gravett's identity, and you said no.
9 Could I ask you to get yellow 2, the publication bundle?
10 A. Yes.
11
12 Q. If you turn to Mr. Pocklington's statement, I am not sure
13 what number he is any more.
14 A. 7 according to that. Yes, 7.
15
16 Q. Then, behind that, there should be some notes and the notes
17 we want are the notes of 2nd November 1989.
18 A. Sorry, the?
19
20 Q. The notes of 2nd November 1989.
21 A. Yes.
22
23 Q. Mr. Pocklington, I think, said that the first meeting that
24 he infiltrated was one of Hackney and Islington animal
25 rights on 2nd October 199, this is a month after that. But
26 this is the first actual London Greenpeace meeting which
27 Mr. Pocklington infiltrated, according at least to his
28 notes?
29 A. Yes.
30
31 Q. If you look in the first paragraph?
32 A. Yes, I see it.
33
34 Q. Towards the bottom it says 'Helen fits the description of
35 Helen Steel described by client company in the letter
36 accompanying photographs'. So, in fact you did give
37 instructions to the private investigators to look out for
38 certain people who you considered to be the core members of
39 the group?
40 A. No, I did not.
41
42 Q. You did not?
43 A. No.
44
45 Q. Did then?
46 A. I did not write the letter, I did not even know a
47 letter had been written.
48
49 Q. It says 'the client company'?
50 A. Yes, well, I did not write the letter, I interviewed
51 the two managing directors and I did not identify any of
52 the people concerned to them.
53
54 Q. So you were not told that somebody had written telling them
55 to look out for certain people?
56 A. No, that is the first I knew that any letter had been
57 written. I deliberately did not commit anything to paper.
58
59 Q. You were aware, though, that photographs were being taken?
60 A. Yes, I arranged for those to be taken.
