Day 261 - 12 Jun 96 - Page 47


     
     1   Q.   This says at the top of it "re London Greenpeace", so it
     2        would appear that at the time you knew that this
     3        investigation was connected to London Greenpeace?
     4        A.  That is possible, yes.
     5
     6   Q.   These would be notes that you typed up; yes?
     7        A.  Yes, yes.
     8
     9   Q.   It was not somebody else typed them up?
    10        A.  No.
    11
    12   Q.   If you look at page 2, at the bottom of it, you talk about
    13        Mr. Gravett, and you say: "He described subject group as a
    14        radical political group."
    15        A.  OK, in which case I was mistaken.  Then the name
    16        London Greenpeace was known to me.
    17
    18   Q.   On the third page, you have talked about the film
    19        Jungle Burger being shown.  That is a film about the cattle
    20        ranching industry in general, and McDonald's and
    21        Burger King are referred to in that film.  But in your
    22        report of it, you concentrate on what was said about
    23        McDonald's.  Do you think, looking back, that actually you
    24        did know that it was about McDonald's that you were making
    25        these investigations -----
    26        A.  No, I do not think it was.  Certainly, the emphasis at
    27        the meeting, as I recall from Paul Gravett, was on
    28        McDonald's, his emphasis was on McDonald's there.
    29
    30   Q.   But by the time of the fair, you were aware that the
    31        investigation was about McDonald's?
    32        A.  I do not recall when I actually became aware that
    33        McDonald's was the key issue.  It is perfectly possible
    34        that it was the fair.
    35
    36   Q.   If you could now turn to -- you were shown photographs
    37        before you started this investigation, were you not?
    38        A.  I was shown photographs during the investigation, not
    39        before I began the investigation.
    40
    41   Q.   Do you remember when it was that you first shown these
    42        photographs then?
    43        A.  No, I do not remember precisely.  It was fairly early
    44        on within the investigation.
    45
    46   Q.   You were here when Mr. Bishop was giving evidence yesterday
    47        and I put to him the general format of the meeting;
    48        basically, that what would happen was that somebody would
    49        get a scrap of paper from somewhere, write the word
    50        "agenda" on the top of it, and put down a few regular 
    51        items, which were correspondence received -- well, office 
    52        and letters -- past events and coming events; and then, in 
    53        terms of the other items on the agenda, the paper would be
    54        passed round to everybody and anybody could add anything
    55        that they wanted.  Would you agree with that?
    56        A.  The Caledonian Road meetings, that is my recollection
    57        of how they were organised.
    58
    59   Q.   Yes.  Sorry, I should have said that was the
    60        Caledonian Road meetings I was referring to.  Then what

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