Day 142 - 26 Jun 95 - Page 65
1 MR. RAMPTON: That is all we can say. If it does, it would be
2 regretful if it did, I hope it will not, but there is
3 nothing we could do to ensure that it does not.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is in 12?
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7 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship did at one stage a long time ago ask
8 for an explanation of the relationship between British
9 government legislation and EEC directives, what the
10 legislative framework was. Your Lordship had some idea --
11 a bit more than I had -- but what we will try to do is get
12 Barlow's European department to sort that one out and their
13 employment department to sort out the wage councils, who
14 they were and what they were empowered to do, and so on and
15 so forth at different times.
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17 My Lord, I suppose I would have to say that the substantive
18 or the substantial, I should rather say, applications are
19 our two discovery applications -- I am talking from our
20 side now -- and the argument about Ms. Hovi and Mr. Bone.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How long are you likely to take on that?
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24 MR. RAMPTON: I, my Lord, would not take very long at all on 9
25 because we have served a statement which indicates by
26 reference to a key which are the parts of Mr. Bone's
27 statement which are either entirely new or more or less
28 entirely new. We have explained it in the key. If the
29 Defendants are disposed to accept that we are right about
30 that, there need not be any argument at all.
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32 MR. MORRIS: We certainly do not accept.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: Therefore, the argument will take sometime, as
35 I think I have just said.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I am contemplating is -- next witnesses,
38 Mr. Rampton, are they what I would call individual
39 witnesses in relation to employment rather than more
40 general ones?
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42 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, they are. They are Mr. Stanton next week
43 who was the Area Supervisor, I think, for Colchester. He
44 will be followed by Mr. Davies who was the Manager during
45 the relevant period at Colchester. So, they are individual
46 ones. Then we just run through various different
47 individual ones probably until the end of July.
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49 My Lord, what we could try to do, if your Lordship
50 preferred it -- I have no preferences -- subject to
51 availability, we could find, I suppose, a short witness or
52 two for the end of next week instead of doing the
53 interlocutories, but Mrs. Brinley-Codd -----
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What I have in mind at the moment is that if
56 we started the interlocutory matters on Monday and had
57 Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of next week for those, and
58 you timetabled the first of your further employment
59 witnesses for Thursday and Friday of that week.
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