Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 18


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, what is important there is not relative
     3        frequency but actual frequency.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I leave you to ask anything you want to of
     6        the witness in due course as to what his further
     7        recollections might be of it.  Was there more in a book of
     8        yours about what that publication contained?
     9        A.  Well, it is now my suspicion that, in fact, that
    10        publication was repeating material that had been published
    11        elsewhere and, in particular, in a document published by
    12        the British Nutrition Foundation.  I do not know if this
    13        has been ---
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    15   Q.   Is that one of your references?
    16        A.  -- served to the court.   It is not one of my
    17        references, no.
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    19   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, there is one.
    20        A.  But I think it has been served since.
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    22   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, there is that.
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    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it that?
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    26   THE WITNESS:  That is indeed it, or at least from it are tables
    27        which I think the British Market Research Bureau may have
    28        been using to make the statements they did.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So we may have the source in the book you
    31        are now holding?
    32        A.  Yes.
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    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know how much relevance that particular
    37        thing has in any case, but we did phone up the company.
    38        I think they said for £1000 we could have a copy of the
    39        report.  There were two companies; one was £1000 and one
    40        was £3,000.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not worry about it for the moment then.
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    44   MR. MORRIS:  The next report you mention in your statement has
    45        similar problems.  Can you just say what HOTAG is?
    46        A.  Yes.  It is the Hot Take Away Group, which was an
    47        industry association of various take away companies, I
    48        understood.  I am afraid that both it and a similar body,
    49        a federation of fastfood and take away companies, seem to
    50        have vanished from the records.  There is no trace of them 
    51        now. 
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    53   Q.   Do you know if McDonald's was part of that trade group?
    54        A.  I suspect not.  I do not think it is McDonald's habit
    55        to join in trade associations in Britain, but I cannot say
    56        whether it was or not.
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    58   Q.   Anyway, that is completely untraceable.  You do not have
    59        any references -----
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