Day 310 - 04 Dec 96 - Page 21


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:   No, it does not.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am still entitled, surely, to look at what
     5        the person takes home at the end of the week?
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     7   MR. RAMPTON:   Absolutely.
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I came to a view that it is low by
    10        anyone's standard, that is it, is it not?
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    12   MR. RAMPTON:   Absolutely.
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    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Even if everyone else in the High Street was
    15        paying no more.
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    17   MR. RAMPTON:   That is right.  There is a comparative element in
    18        that, of course.
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    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
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    22   MR. RAMPTON:   You cannot arrive at that position -- one talks
    23        in absolutes but, in the end, an estimate of what is low
    24        must depend to some extent -----
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    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   It is something to measure it against,
    27        certainly.
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    29   MR. RAMPTON:   Yes, there must be something to measure it
    30        against.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, very well.  Then page 39.  It seems to
    33        me there is absolutely no doubt that the turnover at
    34        McDonald's is high; it was higher, it is still high.
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    36   MR. RAMPTON:   Yes.
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that not so?
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    40   MR. RAMPTON:   Nobody is disputing that.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   No.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:   McDonald's make every effort to bring it down, as
    45        your Lordship has seen from the evidence.
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    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What can really explain that other than -- I
    48        will put it rather more mildly -- indifferent pay and/or
    49        indifferent conditions?  I have in mind what has been said
    50        about the mother who has to go home and the student who has 
    51        to go back to school or college, and so on, but what sort 
    52        of percentage on the figures I have got can that deal 
    53        with?
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    55   MR. RAMPTON:   One does not know.  There are not any precise
    56        figures on it.  With respect, that is only one of the
    57        factors.  If one looks at Lynne Meade's turnover figures --
    58        I have given the percentages somewhere -- one finds that it
    59        is a very small percentage that have stayed for less than
    60        three months.  I forget what it is, it is something about

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