Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 41
1 cycle of 100 years, each year you could only cut, actually
2 fell, one per cent of it, could you not, on average or it
3 just would not regenerate; is that correct?
4 A. Well, that is logic.
5
6 Q. That would be a reasonable assumption, would it?
7 A. That would be a basic mathematical starting point.
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9 Q. So, in order to continue felling, you would need a forest
10 area approximately -- it follows from what I have said --
11 100 times the size of what you are actually cutting in
12 order for it to regenerate if it has a life of 100 years?
13 A. Again, the mathematical approach to this one is that if
14 you take a single hectare out for any reason, and you have
15 100 hectares, then if you are doing one a year, in 100
16 years the regeneration should have given you that first
17 hectare now 100 years of age.
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19 Q. If you take it on the thinnings, if you make the
20 calculation on the basis of the thinnings -- I cannot work
21 out what the actual total volume of the wood because,
22 obviously, it is very difficult on thinnings -- whatever
23 volume of that wood would be that you got out from
24 thinnings, that would still take a wood of the full size in
25 order to be able to make those thinnings that we
26 calculated?
27 A. What I have tried do in the evidence I
28 have presented -----
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30 Q. I am not criticising your evidence.
31 A. No, no. What I am trying to do is trying to help us
32 through to this point where it might be relevant even in
33 Finland, was to take a forest which is not so very
34 different (and that is the one in the south of Scotland
35 which grows on a similar pattern to that in Finland and
36 Sweden) and try to show that the actual product that goes
37 to make packaging material comes from both clearing an area
38 and thinning an area and, as a consequence, it is
39 improbable that any mill is only taking cleared area for
40 its raw material, and it is improbable that it is only
41 taking thinned forest for its raw material.
42
43 Q. Right.
44 A. In the case of Enso-Gutzeit, I happen to actually have
45 been to the mill that Enso-Gutzeit are writing about here,
46 and I have been to the forests which are supplying that
47 mill, and that mill is a significant supplier to
48 McDonald's. So, I am very happy to answer any question
49 either related to Finland and Enso-Gutzeit and McDonald's,
50 or the one that I have shown in my evidence which I have
51 given on the basis of a south Scotland one which supplies
52 another operation which makes packaging for McDonald's.
53
54 Q. On the south Scotland one, just for interest, what would be
55 the forest cycle that is based upon?
56 A. The overall cycle?
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58 Q. Yes, well, in Finland the persons that estimated it as 100
59 years, what would be similar estimation for the Scottish
60 example you gave?
