Day 289 - 29 Oct 96 - Page 14
1 companies like Sun Valley Poultry and McDonald's making
2 their profits.
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4 I am not saying, by the way, that all of the birds do not
5 have any of those five basic needs. I am just saying that
6 it is extremely widespread that the chickens in particular,
7 seeing as that is what we are dealing with now, do not have
8 all of those five basic needs met at all times or even -
9 well, certainly, I mean, in terms of freedom to display
10 most normal patterns of behaviour, none of those chickens
11 have that at any stage in their lives, and in terms of the
12 other freedoms at various points throughout their lives
13 various of the birds in quite high percentages do not have
14 the other freedoms met.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Right. What are you going to go on to next
17 after the five freedoms? So far as-----
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19 MS. STEEL: Transport, I think.
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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23 MS. STEEL: I do not think I have a sheet to hand you for
24 that.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, well, tell me about transport. (Pause)
27 You include cattle in transport, do you?
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29 MS. STEEL: Yes. Just before we go on to this part. I mean,
30 it is relevant to this part. Dr. Pattison said in his
31 evidence-in-chief on day 89, page 5, line 25, that
32 approximately 780,000 birds per week were processed at
33 Sun Valley's plant in the UK. That is 780,000 broiler
34 chickens slaughtered and processed every week at
35 Sun Valley. It is actually possible that that figure has
36 gone down because of the transfer of the facilities to
37 France. There might have been more than that before. But
38 that was the current figure when Dr. Pattison gave
39 evidence. I am sorry, I have got several bits of paper. I
40 will try and sort them out.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Sit down and find where you are and then let
43 us get on with the transport and catching. You can
44 probably do that if you just stood up, looked at the wall
45 and told me about it in fact. I can remember most of it
46 myself.
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48 MS. STEEL: Yes. Right. I have got pages about other subjects
49 as well. I am just trying to get them out of the way.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have got Mr. Bruton about the way they
52 are picked up. You say that if you look at the numbers,
53 and so on, that is hardly surprising. And you have got
54 something, no doubt, to tell me about the shelves they are
55 put in. You may have one or two other points, but those
56 seem to be the main things, and then in no time at all we
57 are into the shackles and the slaughtering processes are we
58 not?
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60 MS. STEEL: Yes. Dr. Pattison said that the birds were loaded
