Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 46


     
     1        anything she wants.
     2
     3   Q.   Then Chris Broom, you and Sabina had a meeting in the lobby
     4        of the restaurant of McDonald's, yes?
     5        A.  Yes, we did.
     6
     7   Q.   On the 1st October, so you say?
     8        A.  Yes.
     9
    10   Q.   You said:  "Now I realised that Sarah's statement about the
    11        supposed benefits of union membership were not true.  Now
    12        I realise that, I could see no point in the restaurant
    13        becoming unionised".  What was not true?  Who told you that
    14        they were not true, sorry, who told you that enhanced
    15        benefits were not true?
    16        A.  Not that enhanced benefits were not true; it is just
    17        that she could not promise us anything and she said that we
    18        would definitely get this.
    19
    20   Q.   So it would all have been fine as long as they were things
    21        which the union was wanting and were trying to get?
    22        A.  Sorry?
    23
    24   Q.   It would all have been fine, would it, if your perception
    25        would have been that these were things that the union was
    26        trying to get for all the staff?
    27        A.  Not necessarily fine because I still did not know all
    28        the information I wanted to know about the union.
    29
    30   Q.   Yes, but the problem is, what you are saying is, you were
    31        impressed by the idea of enhanced benefits, and then you
    32        realised that Sarah's statements about the supposed
    33        benefits of union membership were not true and, therefore,
    34        there was no point in the restaurant becoming unionised?
    35        A.  Because she promised us -----
    36
    37   Q.   But there would have been a point, would there not, of the
    38        restaurant becoming unionised in order to campaign for
    39        those enhanced benefits?
    40        A.  No, I still did not want the union in the McDonald's.
    41
    42   Q.   You did not?
    43        A.  No, I did not.
    44
    45   Q.   So what did Chris Broom say to you to make you not want a
    46        union at McDonald's, despite being impressed by the
    47        enhanced benefits that they were talking about?
    48        A.  Sabina, Chris and I were sitting down.  First, it was
    49        Sabina and I and we told each other our stories.  Chris
    50        came in and we told him what she had told us, in that she 
    51        had promised us these things, we would definitely get 
    52        them.  He said:  "There is no way they can promise you 
    53        anything.  They cannot promise you.  Everything is
    54        negotiated.  They cannot promise you you will definitely
    55        get it".
    56
    57   Q.   What does he know about it?
    58        A.  Pardon me?
    59
    60   Q.   What does he know about it?

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