Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 23
1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Van Erp, Mr. Langert and -----
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3 MR. MORRIS: -- and Mr. Kouchoucos all said that. I have not
4 got the references for those. I think the Casper Von Erp
5 reference was probably in my list, but I did not bother to
6 read it out.
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8 Mr. Kouchoucos also stated -- but I have not got the
9 reference -- that McDonald's generated 6 percent of all US
10 food service packaging. There are bits and pieces -- in
11 fact, yes, Mr. Langert said the bit about not having a
12 policy on 8th July 1994, day 9. He also said -- this is
13 another issue -- that he had received 7,000 to 10,000
14 letters of concern over the use of foam packaging in the
15 USA.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: This is Mr. Kouchoucos, is it?
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19 MR. MORRIS: This is Mr. Langert -- in 1989; this is before
20 they withdrew their foam packaging. So, that is another
21 point. It was during cross-examination.
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23 I have got the references for Mr. Beavers that I have
24 referred to before, when he said that he recognised the
25 benefits of in-store customer recycling packaging -- and
26 that was day 124, pages 52 and 53 -- and that the working
27 of it "does not cause difficulty". Robert Langert had said
28 that less than 10 stores out of 10,000 were actually doing
29 this. That was day 9, page 18, line 30.
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31 If you wanted to see where the challenge was made about the
32 Hong Kong "We Care About The Ozone Layer" Corporation
33 leaflet, that was to Mr. Beavers; I think it was on
34 day 124, either page 36 or page 39, during that time about
35 questioning about CFCs.
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37 Mr. Langert said something that was interesting as well, on
38 day 8, 7th July. I have not got the exact reference. He
39 basically recognised the strength of the environmental
40 movement in the '80s in forcing these kind of recycling and
41 waste issues on to McDonald's agenda or on to their
42 suppliers' agenda -- particularly toxic waste groups and
43 public demand for recycled paper.
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45 I have nearly finished this subject now. I think that is
46 basically it.
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48 What I would like is maybe if we could finish earlier and
49 I can look at the documents. I could not find them last
50 night. It is a very complex subject.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How long do you want, then, for the midday
53 adjournment?
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55 MR. MORRIS: As we are not going to take, I should not think,
56 more than an hour, hour and a quarter, it would be good if
57 we could just start at 2, as normal.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Will you want to add anything, Ms. Steel?
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