Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 70
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Certainly they did not this morning because
3 it is quite clear that what you are holding has lots of
4 figures in which should been produced some considerable
5 time ago if you were going to look into them. Why not put
6 put COMA 46 and see if Professor Crawford does not agree
7 with it?
8 A. Page 42?
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10 MR. RAMPTON: Yes?
11 A. I am quite happy to. The major rise was without doubt
12 in the, after the last world war.
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14 Q. Yes.
15 A. Page 42.
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17 Q. Page 42, figure 25A?
18 A. I am in the wrong book I apologise.
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20 Q. It is the cardiovascular one you need?
21 A. Yes.
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23 Q. And the first chart or table, or graph gives figures for
24 deaths per hundred thousand population for males under 65?
25 A. Yes.
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27 Q. In other words, what one might call premature deaths?
28 A. Yes.
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30 Q. There is a gap between 78 and 79 because there was a change
31 in classification but when they got it going again in 1979,
32 poor old Scotland and Ireland did not do very well because
33 they start from a high point, but they all, whether
34 Scottish,, Irish or Welsh or English were all males under
35 65, suffering less and less, and markedly less of a risk of
36 premature death from heart disease, are not they?
37 A. Yes.
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39 Q. I mean, it starts in 79 at around about, does it not 140
40 people, men per hundred thousand?
41 A. Yes. If you look at the -- my Lord it is my fault for
42 not having this British Heart Foundation document available
43 to the Court because I 'phoned the British Heart Foundation
44 up and asked them what the statistics were. They told me
45 verbally and all of a sudden this book appeared through my
46 letter box two days ago.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you suggesting that it is actually
49 different to these?
50 A. No. It is not different, but it gives a perspective
51 of the rise from the beginning of the, a much earlier
52 period.
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes?
55 A. When you look at that you see the rise going up towards
56 and-
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think Mr. Rampton is disputing
59 that; is that so?
60 A. Yes.
