Day 060 - 02 Dec 94 - Page 21
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2 Q. Right. If you turn over to Mr. Langert's statement, which
3 is in tab 2 just behind, if you keep that page open because
4 we are probably going to go back to it, the bottom page,
5 the page number at the bottom, turn to page 19?
6 A. Yes.
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8 Q. Mr. Langert says at paragraph 7: "In 1985 and 1986 a
9 number of scientific studies were published identifying the
10 potential environmental problems which resulted from the
11 use of CFCs"?
12 A. Yes.
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14 Q. So somebody else in your company appears to think there was
15 concern at that time?
16 A. That is not what it says. It says, "a number of
17 scientific studies were published". If I remember rightly,
18 at that time in the USA and Canada, I think, the concern
19 was over the use of CFCs in aerosol sprays.
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21 Q. The concern was about damage to the ozone layer by CFCs,
22 was it not?
23 A. Yes.
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25 Q. So where you said in your statement that there was no
26 concern in 1986, that is wrong, is it not?
27 A. I do not think so. As far as we were concerned, there
28 was no concern. I think, generally, the use of CFCs in
29 aerosol sprays had been an issue in the United States
30 pre-1986, much earlier, in fact, but not in foam packaging,
31 as far as I am aware.
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33 MR. MORRIS: You read the material that was disclosed yesterday
34 on the ozone -- The 15-year Evolution of a Sudden Global
35 Emergency, Ozone Crisis; this was given to us by Greenpeace
36 UK?
37 A. Right.
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39 Q. The first item on that page disclosed -- I do not have the
40 full report; I only have this chronological extract. When
41 you say there was no concern about the environmental impact
42 of CFCs in your statement at that time, when you said you
43 were concerned about the issue yourself, you became
44 concerned later about the issue?
45 A. Yes.
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47 Q. So you looked into the whole CFC issue?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. You personally supervised the decision to phase it out?
51 A. Yes.
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53 Q. So you have obviously looked into the history, did you not,
54 of the CFC controversy?
55 A. No.
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57 Q. You did not?
58 A. No. I read ----
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60 Q. So, when you say -- sorry, please finish.
