Day 199 - 11 Dec 95 - Page 11
1 Q. Certainly, but management would not know, if there was a
2 criticism, from which individual member of the crew the
3 criticism had come?
4 A. No, not specifically, no.
5
6 Q. So you are not saying, are you, that any actual
7 recriminations ever took place as a result -----
8 A. No, I am saying that there was a fear of
9 recriminations.
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11 Q. You told us -- this is my last question -- Mr. Cranna, that
12 you had a feeling that McDonald's and unions were not
13 natural bed fellows; is that right?
14 A. That is correct, yes.
15
16 Q. You tell us, you write in your statement this -- it is on
17 page 5, if you would like to look at it, at the top, it is
18 only fair you should see it. Do you have the fifth page?
19 A. Yes.
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21 Q. There is a sentence which begins "For example" in the first
22 line?
23 A. Yes, I have.
24
25 Q. "For example, if that member started to try to recruit
26 other crew members into the union or started trying to
27 organise employees in some way that it was not in the
28 interest of management he/she would most likely find
29 his/her employment at McDonald's short-lived". You are not
30 there suggesting that you have any direct experience of any
31 such case, are you?
32 A. No.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: Thank you, Mr. Cranna.
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36 Re-examined by the Defendants
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38 MS. STEEL: Do you want to explain why you have said that, why
39 that was your feeling, that if a member started to try to
40 recruit other crew members they would not last very long at
41 McDonald's?
42 A. Well, it was the way when -- we were initially told,
43 you know, you can tell somebody something but you actually
44 mean something else, if you get my drift? The way it was
45 implied to us about unions, that McDonald's did not need
46 them and, basically, anybody who was going to be joining a
47 union was going to be trouble for McDonald's and,
48 therefore, you were not really part of the McDonald's
49 ethos, or whatever, and basically there would be trouble;
50 they would not get on in the McDonald's environment.
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52 MR. MORRIS: Mr. Rampton said something about unions and
53 McDonald's not being natural bed fellows -----
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55 MR. MORRIS: I did not say it, my Lord. I summarised the
56 evidence of the witness in-chief.
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58 MR. MORRIS: "You have said the system will simply not support
59 crew members who adopt a position contrary to management".
60 Would you agree with the Head of Personnel, Sid Nicholson,
