Day 118 - 01 May 95 - Page 24
1 fantasy world.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You do not have to put matters like that,
4 this is all argument. You do not have to argue, in other
5 words, with the witness about it.
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7 MR. MORRIS: OK. But you are concerned in your company, are you
8 not, about areas of the law which may infringe upon the
9 law, areas of your business where there may be
10 infringements of law?
11 A. Yes, of course we are.
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13 Q. You issue memos about them to guide your managers?
14 A. Sometimes yes.
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16 Q. You train your managers to be aware of these kind of
17 issues, do you not?
18 A. Yes.
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20 Q. But in this case you cannot think of a single memo or a
21 single instruction, or a single paragraph in any training
22 programme about this -----
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: This is comment as well.
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26 MR. MORRIS: That is correct, there is not a single memo
27 instruction?
28 A. No, I did not say that.
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30 Q. Or paragraph that you know?
31 A. That I know of, but I do not get involved in
32 training. And I personally have not issued any memo on
33 this particular subject other than a letter that I wrote to
34 licensees regarding the employment of young children in
35 their stores.
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37 Q. That is a different matter.
38 A. But I have not issued a memo on this subject.
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40 Q. You have not seen one?
41 A. And I have not seen one.
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43 Q. You said or somebody said, I cannot remember who ---
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you going on a different topic?
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47 MR. MORRIS: It is related.
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Because we have to our five-minute break some
50 time. Do you want to ask this question first?
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52 MR. MORRIS: I will ask this one question. When it comes to
53 industrial tribunals that if something is a matter of
54 principle you fight it all the way basically, but if
55 something is a fairly small matter then it is easier to
56 settle out of court.
57 A. Yes when I was in charge of the department I made it a
58 point to have a look at tribunals to see what the subject
59 matter was and if I thought that an important principle was
60 being challenged I would issue an instruction that that
