Day 132 - 07 Jun 95 - Page 44
1 management training package that I have helped McDonald's
2 with.
3
4 Q. But how would they know who you were?
5 A. Because normally I introduce myself when I am in the
6 store. People know why we are there and they would come
7 and talk to me or whatever.
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9 Q. They would know you have been hired by McDonald's to do
10 some investigation or whatever?
11 A. They would not think of me as being hired by McDonald's
12 particularly. They would say: "This is Chris Purslow who
13 helps us with health and safety" and the manager would
14 normally introduce me like that.
15
16 Q. Just on your report on accident rates at McDonald's, the
17 one after page 24, I cannot actually read what it says at
18 the bottom on my document.
19 A. No, mine is pretty poor too.
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21 Q. I do not know if we can get an accurate copy?
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you read yours? Do you have your
24 original or an original there? Although I cannot read it,
25 I have not asked about it because it has not been put in
26 evidence so far, so I am not concerned to read it.
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28 MR. MORRIS: I do not necessarily want to put it in to
29 evidence. I just want to be able to read it, so maybe if
30 someone could give me a copy or it could be read out -- not
31 as evidence.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you have a copy, Mr. Atkinson? It is the
34 first page of tab 41. Towards the bottom you can see it
35 reads: "The figures stated, therefore, represent the
36 following equivalent staffing levels" and then it is very
37 difficult, if not impossible, to read.
38
39 MR. ATKINSON: Should I read it out?
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, because before he decides whether to draw
42 attention to it, Mr. Morris wants to read it. Could you
43 give that to Mr. Morris, Mr. Riley, please?
44
45 MR. MORRIS: As far as I can see, it is OK to read it out.
46
47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think all it says is, if you divide the
48 number of staff by stores on the basis of a 37.5 hour week,
49 rather than most of them working, say, something like 20,
50 that is what the staffing level would be, the equivalent of
51 so many full-time workers. Do you want Mr. Purslow to
52 speak of it or not? It is entirely up to you. You have
53 made your point already about numbers of RIDDOR accidents
54 per 1,000 might be half as much or thereabouts
55 because -----
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57 MR. MORRIS: I believe these figures here -- can I ask
58 Mr. Purslow?
59
60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
