Day 275 - 08 Jul 96 - Page 30
1 in control.
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3 Where it says that -- well, "she seemed to know a lot
4 about the group and most campaigns, she has a lot of
5 knowledge on all anti-Mc activities past and present." It
6 sounds like what I was probably doing was giving some kind
7 of a history of the group and, probably, if somebody had
8 brought up about the anti-McDonald's campaign, said
9 something about the history of the campaign. But anything
10 that I would have said would basically be because of my
11 knowledge as a result of the fact that it had been repeated
12 at so many previous meetings. Anybody who attended the
13 meetings for any length of time would rapidly get to know
14 the history of the group and, therefore, if ever the
15 history, if anyone wanted to know the history of the group,
16 just about anybody could have recited it even if they had
17 only been in the group for, you know, six months, or
18 something like that.
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20 I certainly did not admit to helping with all
21 anti-McDonald's information leaflets and their
22 distribution. I am not entirely sure what that is supposed
23 to mean that I said, but I know I would not have said
24 that.
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26 The next one I think I want to refer to is page 71,
27 Mr. Claire's notes of 8th February 1990. I do recall a
28 discussion about the BBC World Service and Paul saying that
29 he was keen to go and take part in a debate with
30 McDonald's. I do not remember the description about a
31 great moral victory and not letting it go or die down. I
32 do remember Minnesota saying something about a press
33 release could be written to let people know that McDonald's
34 were not willing to go on air and defend their practices.
35 I do not remember it being hyped up or anything like that.
36 I have certainly never heard anybody in the group or at
37 meetings say that there were not any sources to back up
38 what was said in the leaflet, that is complete garbage.
39 Anyone who ever talked about any of the anti-McDonald's
40 leaflets always gave every indication of believing that
41 they were true and, yes, well, just as I say, I have never
42 heard anyone say anything to the effect that they did not
43 have any sources to back them up.
44
45 I certainly do not remember this quote about saying
46 "McDonald's refusal was lucky because if McDonald's had
47 said yes they may have with true facts and figures made
48 London Greenpeace look shitty." I do not remember anything
49 like that ever being said.
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51 MR. MORRIS: I do not know if the witness is aware that it is a
52 couple of minutes to one?
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you have got anything more to say about
55 that meeting--
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57 MS. STEEL: No.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- we will deal with it, otherwise we will
60 break off now?
