Day 130 - 26 May 95 - Page 28


     
     1        A.  No, I -----
     2
     3   Q.   You were not told that Mr. Chapman vehemently insisted that
     4        he wired the plug properly when he was questioned by
     5        Mr. Shirkie?
     6        A.  I am sure that Robert Chapman wired it, what he saw was
     7        properly, whatever standard it was at the time.  As you
     8        very rightly say, we do not know how he wired it as it was
     9        at the accident, but I am sure whatever he did he was doing
    10        it for the best reasons, to help out and to the best of his
    11        ability.
    12
    13   Q.   We are going to leave that subject -----
    14        A.  Could I finally say this, obviously Mr. Shirkie did
    15        speak to Robert Chapman.  Mr. Shirkie concluded, as he did,
    16        that the wiring of the plug -----
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Leave it, please.
    19        A.  But I have sympathy with the guy, because I just
    20        feel  -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, you have made it quite clear you have
    23        sympathy with Mr. Chapman, and so do I, especially if
    24        someone publicly, after the Inquest, blamed him for what
    25        happened.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  If we can move on, I think it is in the same volume
    28        we had out before, it is in fact the Colchester injury
    29        book, accident book.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  57M, my Lord.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  57M, thank you.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If someone could be kind enough just to write
    36        on the second page of my pink -- just in longhand will do
    37        to save me the trouble -- the new documents which have been
    38        put in.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  For some reason I have 961Z, is that the right
    41        reference?
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It has 961Z on the bottom but, in any event,
    44        it is the first sheet, and then we go on 961A, B, C, and so
    45        on.
    46
    47   MR. MORRIS:  You said that about 100 injuries a year you would
    48        expect to be recorded in the accident books in any
    49        particular store; that would be about your average, yes?
    50        A.  If the crew managers were being diligent, and if they 
    51        are recording every little single burn or nick they got. 
    52 
    53   Q.   No, what I am saying is, if you see an average accident
    54        book around the country, you would expect about 100
    55        entries?
    56        A.  The average would be about 100; some would have more
    57        and some would have fewer.
    58
    59   Q.   You would not know which if they recorded every single
    60        incident?

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