Day 192 - 27 Nov 95 - Page 49
1 his lawyers try to say that if you are under 18 you cannot
2 sign a union card. So, in actual fact, he was telling the
3 employees, "OK, do what you want", but there was still a
4 feeling of hostility towards the union, and then on the 1st
5 November he tried to take that right away to join a union.
6
7 Q. In your statement somewhere you said about Nicole Owen
8 being promoted to crew trainer with a rise of 20 cents an
9 hour, or something, and Sabina Iurillo has said it is
10 untrue that occurred a week after the -- well, she does not
11 exactly say the date. She says that she, Nicole Owen may
12 have been the person, that she said she probably is the
13 person that told Cam your name first; then she says it is
14 also untrue that a week later she was promoted to crew
15 trainer, she along with three other people was promoted on
16 the 16th September?
17 A. On the, sorry?
18
19 Q. 16th September 1993, about three weeks before she and Chris
20 Broom and Bonnie McLelland informed Cam about the
21 unionisation attempt. Can you remember anything about that
22 situation of Nicole Owen being promoted?
23 A. I remember it being that she was promoted a week after
24 management had sort of found out about the union, and my
25 friends and I thought that she was the one that had leaked
26 the names, had leaked it to Cam that we were trying to
27 organise the union.
28
29 Q. How do you know she was promoted at that time?
30 A. How do I know?
31
32 Q. Yes.
33 A. It is -- there is McNews in each crew -- in our crew
34 room that tells you about, like new promotions that are
35 going on in the store, what is new, if somebody is quitting
36 or, you know, or someone gets promoted, so that is probably
37 how I found out, or, you know, people talk around the store
38 about who got what, right.
39
40 Q. The crew meeting of 5th October Sabina Iurillo says it had
41 been arranged some time before, and I think the implication
42 is that it was not organised specially. Do you remember
43 whether the 5th October meeting was organised specially,
44 whether it had been arranged before?
45 A. Before what?
46
47 Q. I mean, had it been planned for two weeks?
48 A. I do not know how long it was planned for, but we were
49 having a union meeting that night and it conflicted.
50 I remember it was my mistake because I did not know that
51 they were having a meeting that night until I was --
52 I think it was, like, late in the afternoon that I found
53 out that there was a meeting going on in McDonald's, so
54 ..... I do not know, I cannot tell you how long it had
55 been planned for because I do not know.
56
57 Q. If a crew meeting was arranged at McDonald's, would you
58 have known about it if it had been arranged two weeks in
59 advance?
60 A. I think so.
