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     1        done with other witnesses.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
     4
     5   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Atkinson has advised himself and me about the
     6        law and we do not actually believe that your Lordship's
     7        warning is necessary, but that does not mean to say--
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   My practice is to give it when I am in any
    10        doubt whatsoever.  If you are asked any question, the
    11        answer to which you think may put you in peril of any
    12        criminal proceedings you are entitled not to answer.  It is
    13        entirely up to you whether you answer it or not but you are
    14        entitled to say you do not wish to answer it.
    15        A.   Yes, my Lord.
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  I will repeat the question which you had just
    18        begun to answer, which was something to the effect --
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Lock was not very strong and it was
    21        decided --
    22
    23   MR. RAMPTON:   That is right.  Now, you can stop there if you
    24        want?
    25        A.   Well, it was decided to gain entry to the premises for
    26        the purpose of taking photographs which clearly depict what
    27        they do.
    28
    29   Q.   Did you have to break anything to get in?
    30        A.   I used a 'phone card to swipe a lock.
    31
    32   Q.   That is to swipe the lock back.  But you did not actually
    33        break anything?
    34        A.  No, not at all.
    35
    36   Q.   Right.  My Lord, what I will do -- I am going to
    37        concentrate principally, Mr. Claire, on your handwritten
    38        notes as being a contemporaneous record of what you
    39        remember happening at the meetings.  My Lord, what I will
    40        do is to give the references in the statements at the same
    41        time.  Mr. Claire, I want to move from 4th January 1990 to
    42        18th which, as far as we know, is your second meeting.  My
    43        Lord, that is page 630 of the notes bundle, page 7 in Mr.
    44        Claire's notes, and it his first statement, paragraphs
    45        1-7.  Can you find page 60 in the notes?
    46        A.  Yes I have got this.  What page of the notes?  Page 7.
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  Top right-hand corner, page 7.  One question which
    48        may arise later on, we may as well get it out of the way
    49        now.  These typewritten statements which you signed for
    50        this case, did you write them yourself or were they written 
    51        by the solicitors? 
    52        A.  Well, they went through me and the solicitor and typed 
    53        by the solicitors.
    54
    55   Q.   I am not interested in any discussion of contents with your
    56        solicitors.  Did you discuss the matter before a statement
    57        was sent to you for approval and signature?
    58        A.  Not with them.  I would have looked through my notes.
    59
    60   Q.   I see.  So in large part your statements, directly or

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