Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 29
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2 Q. Is there no way of filling the seam so as to prevent that
3 from -----
4 A. Those are things that are being looked at, so how can
5 you overcome that problem?
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7 MR. RAMPTON: Thank you very much, Mr. Van Erp. Would you
8 remain there, please?
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10 MR. MORRIS: Is it possible to have a quarter of an hour?
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, it will probably be worthwhile.
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14 (Short Adjournment)
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16 Cross-examined by the Defendants
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18 MR. MORRIS: I want to start off with the Manchester polystyrene
19 recycling plant. Had Perseco looked into polystyrene
20 recycling, or when did Perseco first start looking into
21 polystyrene recycling anywhere, whether it was UK or
22 Germany or whatever?
23 A. It started actually when Perseco got involved with
24 packaging and purchasing with the UK either in 1990 when we
25 came over.
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27 Q. There is recycling of polystyrene industrial waste; is that
28 correct? The producers of polystyrene ---
29 A. Yes.
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31 Q. -- when they get waste, they recycle it, is that correct,
32 or they can recycle it?
33 A. Several can, yes. For instance, several of our
34 suppliers, you can literally see cut-offs, for instance,
35 from if you make a lid which is a round shape, you
36 obviously cut it out of a sheet and you get cut-offs. They
37 are generally reground and literally fed across to the
38 other side and mixed in with, let us say, virgin
39 polystyrene.
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41 Q. Did you go and visit those kind of plants when you were
42 considering this option that is happening in Manchester?
43 A. No, no. That has very little to do with each other.
44 That is a completely different type of recycling. On the
45 one hand, we are talking about a material where there has
46 been no contamination, no colouring, so it is a clear
47 material which can be used in the same process right away
48 again versus contaminated polystyrene, different colours,
49 different shapes, different forms, that need some form of
50 processing before they can actually be reused.
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52 Q. The polystyrene for, say, transport material such as you
53 said in, you know, hi-fi boxes and whatever, that material
54 does not have to be bright white, or it is not going to
55 come in contact with food, that does not matter, the
56 colouring does not matter, you cannot take the colours out
57 of polystyrene recyclate, is what you said, but it would
58 not matter in terms of transport materials?
59 A. I could not really give you any information on that
60 because I am not involved in that type of packaging. We do
