Day 108 - 27 Mar 95 - Page 43


     
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     2        You do not have to ask anything at all if you do not want
     3        to.   As far as I am concerned, the fact is she has not had
     4        an opportunity to investigate Sun Valley and I have to say,
     5        at the moment, I am not much concerned about who was right
     6        and who was wrong over the details of the telephone
     7        conversation.  But since Dr. Pattison's account of his
     8        motives has come out, I am certainly not going to stop you
     9        asking Mrs. Druce.
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    11   MS. STEEL:  Right.  I do not know whether I asked this or not,
    12        the 'phone call was made as a result of the photographs and
    13        videos that you saw?
    14        A.  Yes.
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    16   Q.   Because of your concern about what he saw in those?
    17        A.  Yes, and that was my first knowledge of the
    18        demonstration incidentally.
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    20   Q.   Dr. Pattison said you became aggressive.  What is your
    21        opinion of that?
    22        A.  I do not recall being aggressive.  I think I was
    23        expressing concern for turkey welfare.  I cannot remember
    24        word for word what went on.  It became an argument,
    25        I expect, I really do not recall.  I can recall the facts
    26        that I noted down while speaking to him and, beyond that, I
    27        do not have a very vivid memory of what happened.
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    29   Q.   You would not accept that you became aggressive?
    30        A.  I would certainly hope not because I consider
    31        aggression has an inference of threat and I know that was
    32        not present.
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    34   Q.   What was your view of the 'phone call?
    35        A.  I made the 'phone call.
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    37   Q.   I meant did you think it was a useful 'phone call?
    38        A.  I was glad I had made it because I feel that, as with
    39        the broiler, as with the battery system, the turkey
    40        industry needs exposing, and we do it by all means which we
    41        consider acceptable, which does not include aggression.
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    43   Q.   Do you feel that the 'phone call was productive?
    44        A.  Yes, I think so.
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    46   Q.   Can you explain in what way?
    47        A.  Because Dr. Pattison did seem concerned.
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    49   Q.   Concerned by what?
    50        A.  By the newsreel and the photographs and I presume it 
    51        did not reflect well on Sun Valley's practices and he was 
    52        concerned about this.  That was the impression I had. 
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    54   Q.   He said that the conditions the turkeys were in was not
    55        exceptional?
    56        A.  Yes, because the sinusitis, which I assumed it was, he
    57        confirmed that assumption and said it was a very common
    58        condition.
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    60   Q.   Had you played any part in organising the demonstration at

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