Day 103 - 14 Mar 95 - Page 45


     
     1        split into three, two or three, and that would go through
     2        the watering system fairly quickly.  So, the water is
     3        constantly being refilled by the mains supply, so there is
     4        no need to clean out the whole system.
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not know if we have finished this
     7        now.  I merely observe that this is very much second-time
     8        round visiting the same houses.  I am looking at the
     9        transcript of Day 91.  For example, on page 39, we had all
    10        this stuff about a 24-hour period withdrawal period for
    11        Amoxicillin and so on and so forth last time.  I am anxious
    12        about the time.
    13
    14   MS. STEEL:   Going on to slaughtering, if you could get down the
    15        Defendants' supplementary list of documents.  It is one of
    16        the blue bundles at the top.  It should be Supplementary
    17        List I, I think.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is the number at the bottom?
    20
    21   MS. STEEL:   The one I want to refer to is No. 29.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Bundle 2.  What is the document?
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:  The Simmons Engineering document.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is in volume 2, tab 29.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  Have you got that?
    30        A.  Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   Is that the equipment that you use at Sun Valley?
    33        A.  Yes, we use the Simmons stunner, yes.
    34
    35   Q.   How long have you been using this equipment?
    36        A.  We got a new stunner about two years ago, but the one
    37        prior to that, I think, also was Simmons as well.
    38
    39   Q.   How long had you had that one?
    40        A.  Oh, a long time.  I am not sure how long.
    41
    42   Q.   It says on the first page of this:  "A typical amperage
    43        used in stunning by our pulsating direct current prestunner
    44        is approximately 12 to 15 milliamps"?
    45        A.  Yes.
    46
    47   Q.   Did you ever use that current amperage?
    48        A.  We have -- the voltage and the amperage has already
    49        been shown to you in documents that we have disclosed which
    50        show that we run at 40 volts, and the average current 
    51        varies between 400 and 700 milliamps across 16 birds in a 
    52        trough. 
    53
    54   Q.   But I believe that when Dr. Gregory was giving evidence he
    55        said he had spoken to someone at Sun Valley who said that
    56        at one stage it was 25 milliamps that the birds would get;
    57        is that correct?
    58        A.  Well, that may be so.  I mean, as I have said to you,
    59        I cannot really say any more clearly than I have what the
    60        current and the voltage are.

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