Day 158 - 19 Jul 95 - Page 26


     
     1        new frontier, some is cleared when ranchers complete the
     2        deforestation begun by timber cutters or colonists", etc.
     3
     4        Then under (d) "Markets", at the bottom of the page:  "Beef
     5        cattle in Brazil are generally produced for the domestic
     6        markets.  They may be transported long distances by road."
     7        Emphasise that.  "While some are slaughtered and consumed
     8        by small, local outlets, some of the Amazon's cattle are
     9        trucked down to the large urban centres, such as Sao Paulo
    10        and Rio de Janeiro.  The meat is consumed both fresh and in
    11        processed forms, and sold by outlets ranging from local
    12        butchers to fast-food chains".
    13
    14        We would say that the evidence there will be that it is a
    15        practice to truck down from the Amazon area within the
    16        frontier to urban centres such as Sao Paulo where
    17        McDonald's say they are based, their process plants are
    18        based, and one of their supply centres; that that meat is
    19        of the type that fast-food chains would use, is the effect
    20        of that.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  May I enquire where that evidence is to be found
    23        in the Defendants' witness statements?
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  I have just read it out.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  About trucking cattle down?
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  It is already admitted that in the Barretos case
    30        cattle are trucked.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  No, from the Amizonian Basin.  I think I heard it
    33        correctly.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  It is a question of reasonable belief, where this
    36        is a common practice, McDonald's have been over 20 years in
    37        purchasing beef or using beef raised in Brazil for the last
    38        25 years, or something like that.  It is our belief that
    39        some of this would come from, as they have already said,
    40        Mato Grosso and Goias, which both areas have been
    41        deforested and have included rain forest.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is the evidence, if at all, as to when
    44        there was first a McDonald's restaurant in Brazil?
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  I cannot recall where it was.  I am sure that is a
    47        very simple fact.  I think it is 1970, but maybe the
    48        Plaintiffs would know.  It is in one of the documents.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  See if you can dig that out during the 
    51        mid-day adjournment. 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  I think the evidence of Costa Rica was 1970.
    54        I thought somebody said that Brazil was the first.  I might
    55        have my recollection wrong but, on the other hand  -----
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Leave it there for the moment but see if you
    58        can dig it out in the mid-day adjournment or find what the
    59        best information you say is.
    60

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