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     1        at the time when this was compiled.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:  Was compiled?
     4        A.  Yes, the way it would have worked is that that would be
     5        in advance of what we then have historically which is what
     6        happened to the rates in June 89.
     7
     8   Q.   What would be the purpose of comparing McDonald's wages
     9        with those of the rest of industry from two years
    10        previously, or these might even be 1986 rates for the rest
    11        of industry?
    12        A.  Yes.  As we said earlier, the way we would do it is
    13        that we, as you have seen, is to look at other employers as
    14        well as looking at what would, perhaps, be called official
    15        government employment department information to make those
    16        comparisons.  That is the most recent information that was
    17        available.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You are only being asked about G1 at the
    20        moment, you see?
    21        A.  Right.
    22
    23   Q.   G1 is from the New Earnings Survey April 1987.  What
    24        Ms. Steel is asking you is why have on the figures at
    25        McDonald's which would have prevailed in April 89 if on the
    26        same sheet as you have figures outside McDonald's by
    27        occupation and by industry for April 87 New Earnings
    28        Survey, which is two years before, and which may, in fact,
    29        reflect what people were earning in April 86 which is three
    30        years before?  That is what is being put to you.
    31        A.  Well, the best of my understanding is that because that
    32        was the most up-to-date information that was available in
    33        the New Earnings Survey at the time when that was compiled.
    34
    35   MS. STEEL:   After you compared these figures, did you consider:
    36          "Hey, look, McDonald's is paying much less than the rest
    37        of industry was paying two years ago; we had better give
    38        our crew quite a whopping ray rise to put them in line with
    39        the rest of industry"?
    40        A.  I cannot specifically recollect what I thought in 1989
    41        or what any of us thought, but what is also relevant with
    42        our pay rates, as I am sure you are aware, is the fact that
    43        pay increases are given in relation to performance reviews
    44        as well, and the rates which are here are basic rates.
    45        There are other factors which are also relevant.
    46
    47   Q.   The basic rate for 1987, you would agree, looking at page
    48        672 for April 1987 would be £1.99 an hour?
    49        A.  Could you just direct me to where you are looking?
    50 
    51   Q.   If you look opposite June 1986, £1.99 under provincial? 
    52        A.  Right.  For June 86, 1.99, yes, I can see that. 
    53
    54   Q.   That would be the rate in April 1987?
    55        A.  Yes.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I see, yes.
    58
    59   MS. STEEL:  That is on the best reading of the document because
    60        the figures in the New Earnings Survey may actually be from

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