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     1        supplier because of animal welfare concerns?
     2        A.  Since I have been with the company and from what I have
     3        heard or seen, I do not know of anybody who is disapproved
     4        because of welfare concerns.  I have been asked this
     5        particular case, I have asked at Tyson:  "Is there any
     6        reports of our facilities being investigated for
     7        mistreatment of animals or inhumane treatment of animals,
     8        in the history of the plant since 1982?"  And he said:
     9        "No".
    10
    11   Q.   You asked about that because of this case, did you?
    12        A.  That was before I came here, yes.
    13
    14   Q.   About the case, because it was relevant to the case you
    15        wanted to know that before you came to give evidence?
    16        A.  A specific question, yes, it was.
    17
    18   Q.   So has your department ever investigated any incidents at a
    19        supplier's where you were concerned about mistreatment of
    20        animals or welfare considerations?
    21        A.  Have we investigated?
    22
    23   Q.   Yes.
    24        A.  Yes.
    25
    26   Q.   Can you give us some examples then?
    27        A.  For instance, Doug Gullang, who is one of our -- is the
    28        President of OSI, one of our major suppliers in US and
    29        internationally, I have spoken with him regarding this very
    30        subject about welfare of animals and we had extensive
    31        discussions about that; our policies of what we do ------
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is not what you were asked about.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  Has your department investigated any incidents
    36        where you have heard of something happening or you have
    37        witnessed something happening -- your department, not you
    38        personally necessarily -- you have seen something
    39        happening, you are upset about something, you have
    40        investigated it and tried to see if it could be stopped or
    41        changed?
    42        A.  No, we have not.
    43
    44   MS. STEEL:  Are you relying entirely on your suppliers to check
    45        out those kinds of things?
    46        A.  Not entirely -- mostly, yes.
    47
    48   Q.   What is the part then that your department personally
    49        checks out?
    50        A.  What department? 
    51 
    52   Q.   Your department.  You said "mostly but not entirely", what 
    53        part does your department look into?
    54        A.  For instance, we look at what I just asked as an
    55        example.  I asked:  "Are there any times since the plant
    56        was built, are there any incidents relating to the welfare
    57        of animals, mistreatment of animals, that we have been
    58        accused or have been proved as one of the things that we
    59        do".  If there is no incidents of reports in the United
    60        States of such a large company -----

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