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     1        copy of the World Organisation Report and other reports
     2        such as that.
     3
     4   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  That was volunteered; they wanted to
     5        rely on it.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:  The Plaintiffs are relying on this report as well;
     8        it has been mentioned a number of times.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I had been asked to order you to do that,
    11        I would be surprised if I would have done, in fact.
    12
    13   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, might I ask Mrs. Barnes a question?
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  Mrs. Barnes, do you keep copies of that Government
    18        document in the office?
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, she said she has several.  The easiest
    21        route is to bring one.
    22
    23   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  Mrs. Barnes, are you going to
    24        back to the office tonight?
    25        A.  Yes, would you like me to bring one in tomorrow?
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  Could you bring one and bring one, if you
    28        can, that is not marked.  Can you do that?
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How long is it, in fact?
    32        A.  60 or 70 pages.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you bring a couple in?
    35        A.  I will see what I can find.
    36
    37   MS. STEEL:  Thank you.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What about the Task Force minutes,
    40        Mr. Rampton?
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not know.  I would require the
    43        Defendants to make an application for specific discovery of
    44        particular meetings, relating to particular events at
    45        particular times.
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They cannot possibly do that, because they do
    48        not know at which Task Force meetings they were discussed.
    49        The best evidence they can possibly -- do you even know at
    50        which meetings, for instance, the statistics and the 
    51        particular number of electric shocks were discussed? 
    52 
    53   THE WITNESS:  No, I would have to go back and check.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am not at all agreeable just to making
    56        a broad disclosure on that basis.  True it is, it might be
    57        said that, for example, discussions about electric shocks
    58        prior to the Mark Hopkins' incident might be relevant.
    59        That I do see.  True it is that any Task Group meetings
    60        which discussed implications for the Company, which are not

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