Day 062 - 06 Dec 94 - Page 46


     
     1        A.  To the best of my knowledge, yes.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Take your own sectors.  Morocco obviously is
     4        not Europe, but it is Europe for your purposes?
     5        A.  It is, yes.  I am not aware of any material going from
     6        our suppliers via ourselves outside of Europe.  We would
     7        not be responsible for that.
     8
     9   MS. STEEL:  Does any packaging material that is used inside
    10        Europe come from outside of Europe?
    11        A.  Until recently we got some items, a very small
    12        percentage of items came actually from the States, from our
    13        mother company, via our mother company, in the States, but
    14        we are talking about a very small percentage.  You are
    15        talking about those type of items which would be more used
    16        in the US, and the volumes that are actually used here
    17        would not make it worthwhile in actually trying to produce
    18        them locally.
    19
    20   Q.   What type of items are you talking about?
    21        A.  I know some of the pizza cartons, for instance, have
    22        been produced in the States when they started doing a pizza
    23        programme here.  Currently, they are mostly supplied from
    24        within Europe, from within the UK actually.
    25
    26   Q.   So when did they stop shipping them in from the States?
    27        A.  I could not tell you exactly.  It was taken over slowly
    28        when somebody from inside here, from the UK, when the
    29        volumes were large enough to sustain actual production
    30        here.
    31
    32   Q.   What were the cartons made of, the pizza cartons?
    33        A.  I think they were made of a 60 per cent recycled
    34        material.
    35
    36   Q.   So they were paperboard?
    37        A.  They were board, yes.
    38
    39   Q.   What other items do you know about?
    40        A.  Some salad packaging used to come from the States.
    41        That is polystyrene, clear polystyrene, with the black
    42        bases.  They used to come -- well, they used to come from
    43        Canada, but they are now, that company actually set up and
    44        owned a production site here in the UK, so they have
    45        started to produce them in the UK.
    46
    47   Q.   When was that set up then?
    48        A.  That plant has only just been set up, and I think since
    49        a few months we are now using salad packaging produced here
    50        in the UK.  But, since that is plastic packaging, it is not 
    51        recycled or anything. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Are there any other items that you know about, any other
    54        packaging item?
    55        A.  Only vaguely.  I know that we did -- some of the large
    56        cups came at a point from the States because we happened to
    57        have them there standard and we did not happen to have them
    58        here.
    59
    60   Q.   Are they large cups for hot drinks or soft drinks?

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