Day 208 - 24 Jan 96 - Page 34
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2 MS. STEEL: Yes, I am coming on to that.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: For all I know, he may have some experience
5 of that, direct or otherwise.
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7 MS. STEEL (To the witness): You would accept that something can
8 be competitive if they are all very low?
9 A. Yes, I would accept that, yes.
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11 Q. Would agree that Sainsbury's were paying a better rate of
12 pay or do you not know?
13 A. I would agree they are paying a better rate of pay, but
14 I would also agree they are not a good company to work for,
15 having spoken to friends that are on management trainee
16 schemes with them.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Does anyone have a copy which shows what is
19 written beneath is better?
20 A. I guess it would say "hours".
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22 Q. I am sorry?
23 A. I guess it would say "hours". It looks like it says
24 "especially hours".
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26 Q. I can see it may be "ESP" for "especially", but I am
27 puzzled by what comes after that.
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29 MS. STEEL: It look like "sure" but I do not know, but it would
30 not make sense.
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32 MR. MORRIS: It may be "especially crew", but I do not know.
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Cox has suggested that it is "hours", but
35 is there a copy with it on?
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37 MR. RAMPTON: This, My Lord, is not the original. It is an
38 original copy, if that makes any sense. It does look very
39 much like "ESP. sure". I will pass it up to your
40 Lordship. (Handed).
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42 MR. MORRIS: I do not think it is going to win or lose the case.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us leave it there. It is not a matter of
45 life or death. It is not "ours" anyway, I do not think.
46 Mr. Riley, can you hand Mr. Morris his page back and let
47 Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris see the better copy? It is not
48 really any better. (Handed)
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50 MS. STEEL: I might as well ask, you do not have any direct
51 experience of what it is like to work for Sainsbury's, do
52 you?
53 A. Only what I have been told.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can someone remind me, if anyone knows, when
56 it was that the Bath rates were increased above the Company
57 norm?
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59 MR. RAMPTON: No, I cannot remember. I am not even sure what
60 was said when it happened.
