Day 203 - 12 Jan 96 - Page 47


     
     1        complete fabrication, what you said.
     2
     3   Q.   You spoke to Sally Spurgeon about this incident of hours
     4        docking, and you say that she denied she was responsible,
     5        and she said that she had given all Managers, including
     6        Floor Manager, access to her personal Husky Hunter
     7        password.  Did you ask her why she had done that?
     8        A.  Yes, I believe I did ask her why she had done it.
     9
    10   Q.   What reason did she give?
    11        A.  I cannot recall.
    12
    13   Q.   All managers have their own personal passwords, have they
    14        not?
    15        A.  Yes.  All salaried Managers have their own password.
    16        The procedure was for Floor Managers, I think, that they
    17        had to have it verified by the Senior Supervisor or
    18        Supervisor, I think, that they could use the Hunter.
    19
    20        I cannot recall what reason Sally gave.  I think it is
    21        possible, though, that it was expedient in terms of
    22        allowing people that were not authorised to use the Hunter;
    23        and that would have included quite a number of people who
    24        were not authorised to use the Hunter.
    25
    26   Q.   Why should she have given them to other people who did have
    27        their own passwords?
    28        A.  In fact, what I am saying is that she gave them to
    29        people who did not have their own passwords as well.  Other
    30        people seemed to know what Sally Spurgeon's password was
    31        who perhaps were authorised also.
    32
    33   Q.   Why did you believe her when she said that it was not her
    34        and that it was other Floor Managers ---
    35        A.  I did not believe anyone.
    36
    37   Q.   -- other Managers?
    38        A.  I did not believe anyone at the time.
    39
    40   Q.   You did not believe anyone?
    41        A.  No.  I was looking for a reason to believe everyone,
    42        because I was suspicious of everybody and anybody in the
    43        restaurant at that stage who had access to that password.
    44        Sally was desperate; she was desperate in her responses to
    45        me; she completely denied ever having taken anybody's hours
    46        off their clock card, and said that other people were using
    47        her clock card.  That is the position she maintained.  Now,
    48        I do not think she could substantiate that.  I think she
    49        had probably done it, but I think that is possible, now
    50        with the benefit of hindsight. 
    51 
    52        I could not, in truth, identify who had done it. 
    53        I suspected Ray.  I suspected Sally.  I suspected that
    54        other Managers had done it as well.
    55
    56        Why do I think that she had availed other people of her
    57        clock card number?  I think, in all honesty, she could have
    58        done it out of expedience, carelessness.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Tell me about that.  Why?  What was the

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