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1 Q. It went on for some considerable time and you said this:
2 "We have in the US, for example, product specification
3 that will override (whatever it was that was being
4 suggested) that will, say our suppliers, who will use, must
5 use 100 per cent domestic beef. It has been in our
6 specification as far as I can remember since 1955 or 56.
7 It is for that reason we say as much as possible." I do not
8 know what it is a reference to. Question: "While we are on
9 that subject, have you seen a regulation specification
10 dating back to 1954/56 only 100 per cent domestic beef in
11 the USA." Your answer:"I am not sure. Let me see if I can
12 understand your question. You said regulation or
13 specification. You got me confused." Mr. Morris then says
14 that he means specification, and so it goes on. What
15 I wanted to do is to ask you to look at some documents, as
16 I did not a moment ago, in pink IX first of all, please.
17 Please turn to tab 2A first of all.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: McDonald's Meat Specifications.
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21 MR. RAMPTON: It is McDonald's Meat Specifications. Do you have
22 that?
23 A. Yes, I do.
24
25 Q. It should be a three-page document, is it?
26 A. Yes.
27
28 Q. Does it have a rather bad drawing of a rather old fashioned
29 looking McDonald's restaurant in the top left-hand corner?
30 A. That is correct.
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32 MR. MORRIS: I have not got a copy of this.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: I can tell you this, Dr. Gomez Gonzalez, well,
35 perhaps I will not tell you this. Just glance at the
36 document, particularly perhaps the first page and the
37 second page. Do you think that you have seen anything like
38 that before?
39 A. Yes, I have seen this document before.
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41 Q. You have?
42 A. Yes.
43
44 Q. Right. Then look over the page to page 2. Do you see
45 paragraph D at the top of the page: "Ingredients absolutely
46 not to be used" right-hand column, No. 8 "imported beef"?
47 A. Yes, I do.
48
49 Q. Then please turn to tab 2B in that same bundle. It should
50 be a very short two-page document, a sideways document,
51 McDonald's Fresh Regular Quarter Pounder, yes? McDonald's
52 Fresh Regular Patty Quarter Pounder Patty Specifications,
53 do you have that?
54 A. Yes, I do.
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not have that one.
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58 MR. RAMPTON: I will read it out first and then I will ask you
59 whether you think you have seen it before. Under "D" in
60 the left-hand column it says: "Ingredients absolutely not
