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     2   Q.   Is that for the use of McDonald's alone in Europe?
     3        A.  That is for the use of McDonald's alone in Europe.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that a convenient moment?
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     7   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, that would be a convenient moment.
     8        Mr. Walker, before you leave the witness box, can I ask you
     9        to fold up the map and put it safely by somewhere?
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    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will resume at 2 o'clock.
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    13                       (Luncheon Adjournment)
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    15   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Walker, just before the adjournment we were
    16        considering this plan of Jarrets' abattoir.  Apart possibly
    17        from the question of scale or size, does it show any
    18        important differences from the sort of abattoir which would
    19        normally be used for pigs?
    20        A.  No, the line lay out would be different for a pig
    21        abattoir.  Instead of a high roller line, you would have a
    22        low Danish round line.  The actual technique is different,
    23        between scrolling and furnacing but, no, you would still
    24        have so many common features, sterilizers, washing
    25        facilities, etcetera.
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    27   Q.   Is one difference, perhaps, in relation to the skinning or
    28        dehiding of the animal?
    29        A.  Well, a pig is not skinned.
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    31   Q.   A pig is not skinned?
    32        A.  Therefore, I mean, that is why you have the dehairer
    33        and the furnace.
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    35   Q.   So, from the food hygiene point of view, does it remain
    36        with pigs as with cattle, that it is the eviseration which
    37        is, at any rate, one of the more important operations?
    38        A.  Yes, definitely.
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    40   Q.   One other possible difference, I do not know what you say
    41        about it, to what extent do faeces stick to the skin or the
    42        hide of pigs in the way that they do to the hide of cows?
    43        A.  They do not in the same way at all.
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    45   Q.   Can you, I think you can, in that pink file IX, which
    46        I hope you still have there -- I think it is probably the
    47        top one on your right -- please turn to tab 4.  I am going
    48        to ask you some further questions about this later on.
    49        This is a McKey's specification of October 1991, yes?
    50        A.  Yes. 
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    52   Q.   Can you turn to its last page, please, which is I think 
    53        page 52 of the file which is stamped on the bottom of the
    54        page?
    55        A.  Yes.
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    57   Q.   This is an addendum to your boneless beef specification;
    58        this document, unlike the audit form which we saw, does go
    59        to the supplier, does it not?
    60        A.  Yes.

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