Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 63


     
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is tab 11 in the same bundle as your
     4        statement.  Do you have that?  It is yellow volume IV,
     5        probably on the shelf up there.  Turn to tab 11.  That is
     6        Mr. Bateman's statement and Mr. Morris was putting
     7        something on page 2 to you.
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     9   MR. MORRIS:  It was the second page of the statement.  Under the
    10        paragraph "Wood Sources" it talks about the USA and then it
    11        says third line down:  "Nearly all the pulpwood used in
    12        Northern Europe could be classed as secondary cuttings, for
    13        example, thinnings extracted from the forest so the
    14        remaining trees can grow to healthy maturity".  Would you
    15        call that accurate from Mr. Bateman?
    16        A.  Well, the only thing I think he may have omitted from
    17        that, that secondary cuttings also are the top lengths of
    18        trees which may go to sawmills.  The forest operation, we
    19        either sell the forest in terms of an area standing for
    20        organisations to come in and fell the trees and then grade
    21        them, according to their market, or in the case of forest
    22        enterprise, where we do that, we cut them ourselves and
    23        grade them for sale.
    24
    25        In any forest clearance area, in other words, clear
    26        felling, the top ends of trees and those trees which never
    27        made it to full sawmill size, or which for any other reason
    28        are of poor quality, are graded apart and would go to a
    29        pulp mill.  So, I would count that as secondary cutting.
    30        The only question I would raise with Mr. Bateman were he
    31        here is why that is not included amongst his main source of
    32        supply in Europe, because it would be absolutely normal and
    33        very surprising if it did not go to a pulp mill.
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    35        You see, may I come back, Mr. Morris, to the point that as
    36        a forest matures, by that I have already mentioned that our
    37        own forests in this country will have doubled in size of
    38        mature trees and volume of mature trees in the next 20
    39        years, you will realise that, as that happens, a higher
    40        proportion of material going for pulp will come from the
    41        clearfelling and the top ends of those trees and the waste
    42        material from the sawmills than applied at an earlier
    43        time.  Hence, the point that you cannot stop time, at any
    44        given moment you have got a given situation, but 10 years
    45        later it will be different.
    46
    47   Q.   If I can just ask you couple of further questions:  In the
    48        middle of your page 5, there is a separate sawmill from the
    49        pulp mill; is that correct?  This is the Scotland example?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   When it says "sawmill residues - fibre for panels and 
    53        pulp"?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   And something like, I do not know, 50 per cent or something
    57        goes to pulp, that is transferred to the pulp mill from the
    58        sawmill; is that correct?
    59        A.  The sawmill residue will also be sold to panel makers
    60        and the panel makers' factory will be in a separate

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