Day 197 - 07 Dec 95 - Page 34


     
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       2 Q.   You agree with him?
       3      A.  I agree with it, yes.
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       5 Q.   The last point about under 18s working illegal hours at
       6      night, he says:  "As a result of successful prosecutions
       7      against the Company in the early 80s in Luton, Guildford
       8      and Slough for such offences, it was instilled as a result
       9      of that into all of us from Head of Operations down that
      10      this practice was not to reoccur".
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      12      Do you have any comment about that?
      13      A.  Yes, I mean, as I stated yesterday, because of the
      14      pressure of work-load, time involved, it did occur because
      15      the pressure was on to get people out of the restaurant,
      16      people wanted to get home.
      17
      18 Q.   But what were you actually told about under 18s?
      19      A.  Not to schedule them after 12.00.
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      21 Q.   Not to schedule?
      22      A.  Not to be scheduled after 12 o'clock which was the
      23      case.  They would be scheduled till 12.00.  As I said
      24      yesterday, if you needed the people they would be asked to
      25      stay on where a bonus would be paid, or something like
      26      that would be paid over, but they would not actually be
      27      clocked on while they were working.  So, for record
      28      purposes, they had actually finished at 12 o'clock.
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      30 Q.   I think we have nearly finished.  The new documents, maybe
      31      if we leave those to Mr. Rampton.  If there is anything
      32      that comes up, we can re-examine.
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      34 MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can re-examine on them.
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      36 MS. STEEL:  Can I just say that the witness has not seen them
      37      because we only got them this morning as we came into
      38      court.
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      40 MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Leave it there now.   I want you to finish
      41      your cross-examination (sic) before we break.
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      43 MR. MORRIS:  Yes, we have nearly finished.
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      45 MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I said "cross-examination", I meant your
      46      examination-in-chief.
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      48 MR. MORRIS:  Is there anything you would like to say just
      49      looking back over your time at McDonald's about the kind
      50      of Company it seems to you?
      51      A.  Looking back, I mean, in retrospect, it was an
      52      enjoyable time from one point of view.  Looking back after 
      53      a few years, I find it quite hard to believe some of the
      54      things we did do and the things we asked over people to do
      55      to achieve an aim.  It is hard to say, had I carried on
      56      with the Company, the reason leaving obviously was a
      57      personal thing as opposed to what I was actually doing, it
      58      was more of a personal conflict with Neil Skehel than what
      59      the Company was doing, so I do not know if that had not
      60      had happened whether I would still be with the Company now

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