Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 63
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is tab 11 in the same bundle as your
4 statement. Do you have that? It is yellow volume IV,
5 probably on the shelf up there. Turn to tab 11. That is
6 Mr. Bateman's statement and Mr. Morris was putting
7 something on page 2 to you.
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9 MR. MORRIS: It was the second page of the statement. Under the
10 paragraph "Wood Sources" it talks about the USA and then it
11 says third line down: "Nearly all the pulpwood used in
12 Northern Europe could be classed as secondary cuttings, for
13 example, thinnings extracted from the forest so the
14 remaining trees can grow to healthy maturity". Would you
15 call that accurate from Mr. Bateman?
16 A. Well, the only thing I think he may have omitted from
17 that, that secondary cuttings also are the top lengths of
18 trees which may go to sawmills. The forest operation, we
19 either sell the forest in terms of an area standing for
20 organisations to come in and fell the trees and then grade
21 them, according to their market, or in the case of forest
22 enterprise, where we do that, we cut them ourselves and
23 grade them for sale.
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25 In any forest clearance area, in other words, clear
26 felling, the top ends of trees and those trees which never
27 made it to full sawmill size, or which for any other reason
28 are of poor quality, are graded apart and would go to a
29 pulp mill. So, I would count that as secondary cutting.
30 The only question I would raise with Mr. Bateman were he
31 here is why that is not included amongst his main source of
32 supply in Europe, because it would be absolutely normal and
33 very surprising if it did not go to a pulp mill.
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35 You see, may I come back, Mr. Morris, to the point that as
36 a forest matures, by that I have already mentioned that our
37 own forests in this country will have doubled in size of
38 mature trees and volume of mature trees in the next 20
39 years, you will realise that, as that happens, a higher
40 proportion of material going for pulp will come from the
41 clearfelling and the top ends of those trees and the waste
42 material from the sawmills than applied at an earlier
43 time. Hence, the point that you cannot stop time, at any
44 given moment you have got a given situation, but 10 years
45 later it will be different.
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47 Q. If I can just ask you couple of further questions: In the
48 middle of your page 5, there is a separate sawmill from the
49 pulp mill; is that correct? This is the Scotland example?
50 A. Yes.
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52 Q. When it says "sawmill residues - fibre for panels and
53 pulp"?
54 A. Yes.
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56 Q. And something like, I do not know, 50 per cent or something
57 goes to pulp, that is transferred to the pulp mill from the
58 sawmill; is that correct?
59 A. The sawmill residue will also be sold to panel makers
60 and the panel makers' factory will be in a separate
