Day 269 - 25 Jun 96 - Page 75


     
     1   Q.   I mean, the most striking one, you will agree, and these
     2        are mortality rates?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   Is between France and the UK which is in the penultimate--
     6        A.  Or Greece and the UK?
     7
     8   Q.   But I am interested in France and the UK for reasons which
     9        will be apparent in a moment?
    10        A.   Or Denmark and the UK.
    11
    12   Q.   But also the West Germans?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   Were doing rather better than us too were they not?
    16        A.  Yes, they were indeed.
    17
    18   Q.   Right.  Now then, if you would not mind looking at the
    19        middle table, C1 and this is "percentage of food energy
    20        from fat", and that is all fat?
    21        A.  Yes.
    22
    23   Q.   In various, and I can tell you the rest of that word is
    24        'countries'?
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   And we see the Greeks have a higher energy intake from fat
    28        than the Germans do, and the Germans higher than the
    29        French?
    30        A.   Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   And all of those, I would say, over 40 per cent?
    33        A.   Yes.
    34
    35   Q.   Whereas we score just about on 40 per cent?
    36        A.   That is right.
    37
    38   Q.   Do you see that?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    41   Q.   Now, would you agree if you compare that central column
    42        with the blocks on the left you would be disposed to say,
    43        Oh, well, it must be that the French and the Germans, like
    44        the Greeks, get most of their fat from relatively benign
    45        vegetable oils.  You would be inclined to say that, would
    46        you not?
    47        A.   I might be, yes.  I would be careful about this
    48        because I have a suspicion to where you are going.
    49
    50   Q.  I will tell you exactly.
    51
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not be suspicious, but if you have a
    53        reservation about what might be the obvious conclusion then
    54        please express it.
    55        A.   I mean, I do have reservations, not reservations but I
    56        do have an explanation for this figure which would appear
    57        to be at odds with some of the things we have been talking
    58        about.
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  Would you--

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