Day 069 - 19 Dec 94 - Page 42
1 to ourselves, to McDonald's.
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3 Q. So are you saying that if he had said, "We export to
4 McDonald's", then you would have taken action, but he did
5 not say that; is that what you are saying?
6 A. Yes. We would have taken action. What we would have
7 done, I do not know, but we would have taken action, of
8 course, yes.
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10 Q. What, against him or against the company?
11 A. Both. He represents the company.
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13 Q. If he was the Sales Director, he would be expected to know
14 who he is selling to and for what purpose?
15 A. That is correct.
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17 Q. You said there was an ecologist quoted on the film, was it?
18 A. That is correct.
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20 Q. And that he told Mr. Madrigal that he was lying or -----
21 A. That is correct.
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23 Q. That is the one that was quoted on the film, was it,
24 someone who was interviewed?
25 A. That is correct.
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27 Q. There is an ecologist that is quoted in the film called
28 Alexander Bonilla; would that be the one?
29 A. I believe so. I think if he is the one who talks about
30 the rainforest and deforestation, and makes all these
31 claims, that 80 per cent of cattle and deforestation; at
32 present rate figures, he estimates that there would not be
33 a rainforest in 15 years; that is that person.
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35 Q. Right. What did Mr. Madrigal say that that person said to
36 him?
37 A. That he was the wrong, that he had the wrong figures,
38 and that he was very sorry about the damage that he had
39 caused to Costa Rica, and that he would be willing to make
40 a statement saying that he made a mistake.
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42 Q. I cannot remember whether it is shown in the film now, but
43 Alberto Zamora, I believe, was quoted in the film as
44 Chairman of the Cattle Breeder Federation. Have you heard
45 of the name Alberto Zamora?
46 A. I hear a lot of names. I am not sure.
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48 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know where the name Zamora comes from.
49 I have a name Alberto Amador who says in one interview that
50 he is President of the Cattle Farmers Association.
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52 MR. MORRIS: Yes. I think his name is Alberto Amador Zamora.
53 (To the witness) Have you met him or heard of him?
54 A. I do not recall. I probably have. I have met with a
55 lot of cattle associations throughout the world. There are
56 too many people to remember. I do not know. It does not
57 sound familiar at this point, though.
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59 Q. Mr. Madrigal did not say anything to you about him?
60 A. No, he did not.
