Day 128 - 24 May 95 - Page 34
1 Q. You said that you felt there were implications, in the
2 analysis of the RIDDOR figures, for reductions or
3 preventative measures in relation to other accidents that
4 were not RIDDOR accidents?
5 A. Yes.
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7 Q. Do you remember that?
8 A. Yes.
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10 Q. But the less severe accident statistics, you would accept,
11 would have burns as a large category, so the reduction of
12 RIDDOR accidents is not going to have any impact on that,
13 is it?
14 A. So you are saying that there are not many burns under
15 the RIDDOR categories, therefore, we cannot learn enough to
16 impact on the other burns that are minor ones? Is that
17 correct?
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19 Q. If you are trying to reduce RIDDOR accidents, but burns are
20 not included in those, apart from maybe occasional ones,
21 you are not likely to have much of an impact in reducing
22 burns, are you?
23 A. Not if we were just depending on those RIDDOR
24 statistics for developing our action plan, which we are
25 not. As I explained yesterday, the other way we have of
26 gathering information is to use safety audits, and it is a
27 lot more exact to gather information from those, where we
28 know we have gone out and we have gathered the information
29 in terms of how people are working, as opposed to depending
30 on finding out, or whether the accident has had the bad
31 luck to develop into something that has been serious enough
32 to be included in the RIDDOR statistics.
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34 Accident statistics are just one of the forms that we use
35 to gather information.
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37 Q. The safety audits that are carried out, is there a specific
38 form for those?
39 A. Yes, they were first introduced in August 1993, and
40 they are in a specific format.
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42 Q. Are they part of another document or are they, like,
43 free-standing?
44 A. Both. The safety audit can be used on its own, which
45 it is done, and it is used in that way by my people.
46 I believe it is also part of what we call a "rolling grade
47 package", which is the overall quarterly audit carried out
48 on everything that the store does.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you asking whether there was a specific
51 audit form ---
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53 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- for the safety audit?
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57 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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59 THE WITNESS: Yes, there is.
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