Day 094 - 01 Mar 95 - Page 33


     
     1        A.  Yes, I have.
     2
     3   Q.   Have you walked round the plant and checked it with your
     4        expert eye?
     5        A.  Checked it?
     6
     7   Q.   The procedures, you are satisfied they are -----
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What you are being asked, you have obviously
    10        visited it?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   But have you visited it with an eye to seeing how it is run
    14        and checking its procedures?
    15        A.  Not in detail, no.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  Have you read the procedural -----
    18        A.  Manual?  What we call "the black book"?
    19
    20   Q.   What I am saying is you said, for example -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why not get straight to what you want in
    23        relation to McKey's because otherwise ----
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:  I just do not know how much -- when you check a
    26        plant -----
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But what has this actually got to do with Dr.
    29        Gomez Gonzalez?
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  I am trying to compare the McKeys plant with the
    32        US -----
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is fair enough, but you could say:
    35         "This happens at McKey, does it happen at Tysons?"  I know
    36        they are not beef, give another one.  "Does it happen at
    37        OSI or wherever?".   He has given a broad statement, that
    38        when it comes to McDonald's part in supervising procedures
    39        it is pretty well the same on both sides of the Atlantic.
    40        If you challenge any part of that, I suggest you challenge
    41        it.  If you are saying:  "Whatever McDonald's procedures
    42        may be, do OSI do this the same as McKey?" or something
    43        like that, put that.
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  I am not sure if you know what McKey do.
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, the answer may be:  "I do not know, I do
    48        not know how OSI do it" or "I know OSI do it this way, I do
    49        not know how McKey's do it".  But he would be able to focus
    50        in on it 
    51 
    52   MR. MORRIS:  I thought to save time, I did not really want to go 
    53        through all the procedures that we went through before.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  (To the witness):  Did you see anything
    56        different between the way that McKey is run with a view to
    57        limiting risk of food poisoning at the end of the day which
    58        struck you as significantly different to the procedures in
    59        any of these six plants of five suppliers whom you
    60        mentioned about half an hour ago?

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