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1 Q. 5.57 stay between one and two months and 3.26 stay between
2 two and three months etc. up to 10 years and over. This
3 picture that is put down here, is that, so far as you are
4 aware, something that has remained constant for the
5 last -- how long have you been in the Personnel Department?
6 A. I have been in what is now the Human Resources
7 Department since 1985.
8
9 Q. 1985. Bearing in mind that you have claimed that the
10 turnover rate in 1990 was something like 190, 196, I think
11 it was, per cent, now you are saying it is 112, 120 or
12 something per cent, so this chart in front of us, has the
13 length of service over those years increased or stayed
14 constant or what?
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Might I suggest you put it another way? At a
17 quick reckoning, something like 56 per cent of the
18 employees have worked for less than a year, it may be a
19 year or less, because "12 months" appears in two
20 categories?
21 A. Yes.
22
23 Q. If turnover rate has decreased -- and that is the quarter
24 ending on 31st March 1995 -- if between 1990 and 1995 the
25 turnover rate has reduced significantly, would you expect
26 that in 1990 the numbers who had been in service for 12
27 months or less would have been significantly greater?
28 A. Would I expect that the numbers who have been in post
29 for more than 12 months?
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31 MR. MORRIS: No, less.
32 A. Less than 12 months would have been greater in 1990?
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34 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
35
36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. If you cannot say, say so, but do you
37 think that would follow, that if the turnover rate, that
38 is, the annualised turnover rate, the turnover rate for a
39 12 months period, has decreased significantly over that
40 five years, would you expect that if one had an equivalent
41 to the third sheet of E for a 1990 quarter there would be a
42 greater percentage who had served for less than 12 months?
43 A. Perhaps, but in thinking about it at this stage I think
44 it would mainly be to do with the number of current
45 employees and the number of people who had started and left
46 during the time. I think those would be the key things
47 rather than necessarily the period of service, although
48 I appreciate that the period of it being a year would be
49 relevant to that.
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51 MR. MORRIS: Yes, but if there is a greater turnover rate it
52 means that people are staying less time overall; is that
53 correct?
54 A. Certainly turnover means that when people leave so in
55 terms of which people they are, there could be several
56 people who stay for short periods or they .....
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58 Q. Right, but the bulk of the -----
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is being put to you is that more than
