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     1        voluntary basis?
              A.  It is hard for me to give you an answer.  I also was
     2        looking for a date on this.  There is not even a copyright
              notice that I can find on the back of this, so it is hard
     3        for me to give an answer to that question.  I do not even
              have a point of reference on this and I do not recall
     4        having seen this one before.
 
     5   Q.   Yes.  It has been pointed out to me, if you look at page
              28, it says that.
     6
         MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am trying to help with the date.  If
     7        one looks at 59AE, one sees that the telephone No. 312887
              food.
     8
         MS. STEEL:  Yes, it is prior to August 1986.
     9
         MR. RAMPTON:  It is before 2nd August 1986.
    10
         MS. STEEL:  In that case we can probably pin it down fairly
    11        well because on page 28 it says:  "McDonald's has been in
              the food business for over 30 years".  I think we have
    12        already that heard McDonald's was started in 1955, so that
              means this document must have been produced at some stage
    13        in either 1985 or early 1986?
              A.  All right.
    14
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If an original can be found, no doubt as
    15        with others, it will have a date on, it may have on the
              very back cover.  Some of the other originals we have seen
    16        have publication dates on them.
 
    17   MS. STEEL:  That would be helpful, yes.  But would you agree,
              based on, you know, the parts that have been read out,
    18        that it must have been produced either in 1985 or before
              August 1986, bearing in mind the over 30 years?
    19        A.  Yes.  I just do not know.  I just do not know.
 
    20   Q.   McDonald's was formed in 1955, was it not?
              A.  That is correct.
    21
         Q.   Right.  If you add 30 years to that you get 1985?
    22        A.  That is correct, over 30 years could be more than
              1985.
    23
         Q.   That is right, it could be, but we know it is before
    24        August 1986 because of the telephone number?
              A.  OK.  Assuming that is the case, what may I answer?
    25
         Q.   Right.  The point is that you are saying, or McDonald's is 
    26        saying, on page 59AE that you are not labelling the 
              products because it is not practical or economical to do 
    27        so.  When asked about what ingredients, where customers
              can get information on ingredients, it does not say:  "We
    28        have booklets in our stores".  That is right, is it not?
              A.  What I am looking at here does not say:  "We have
    29        booklets in our stores" -- let me just finish looking at
              this one page.
    30
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  On the first page it says it is a reference

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