Day 188 - 15 Nov 95 - Page 31
1 A. Yes. We were sitting there filming it; so that the
2 crew was there, and Jane and myself, and the camera, was on
3 the course; and we were sitting at a side table, so that we
4 could watch what was happening. So I was present during
5 that, yes; and the cameras were present; otherwise, he
6 would not have said it could not be used on film.
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8 Q. "Paul Preston rang Strand first thing Tuesday morning to
9 check what was happening and rang the university and
10 Edgware store, similarly."
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12 How do you know that?
13 A. I think probably one of the managers -- I mean, from
14 this distance, one of the managers would have told us; and
15 I think it was probably Michael, from memory,
16 Michael Metcalfe, but I would not -----
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18 Q. Was he on this course?
19 A. No. He told us -- this was not at the course that we
20 were told that; we were told by the Strand store that he
21 had rung the Strand store; and I think it was probably
22 Michael who told us that Paul Preston had been on to find
23 out what was happening.
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25 Q. That is all a bit of a -----
26 A. Yes.
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28 Q. OK. "On Tuesday, when I was sitting at the back of class
29 snooping, students walked out and were chatting to me on
30 the way down to lunch. Tindale called them back into
31 classroom and they were warned not to be critical of
32 McDonald's or course during lunchtime filming."
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34 How do you know he did that?
35 A. I knew that he had called them back, because they came
36 out and they were called back. They then told me what he
37 said to them.
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39 Q. That is what they told you?
40 A. Yes
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42 Q. "When students came out of the classroom again, Alistair was
43 given a further reinforcement by Anne Henderson, 'That
44 means you especially, Alistair'."
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46 Did you overhear that conversation?
47 A. Yes.
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Was Anne Henderson a woman public relations
50 representative, or someone else?
51 A. No. She was one of the tutors.
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53 MR. RAMPTON: She was the lady on the film. There were two of
54 them: there was Mr. Tindale and Miss Anne Henderson. The
55 public relations lady is called Corinne Reed, who is a
56 Scottish lady.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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60 MR. MORRIS: When she said, "That means you especially,
