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     2        I do not know if you want to break there for lunch?
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  We will break off until two o'clock.
     5        Make sure you leave yourself ample time to deal with the
     6        16th October 1989, which you told me on Friday you were
     7        going to deal with today.
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     9   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  There is actually quite a lot to deal with
    10        today.  I presumed that we would be going over because we
    11        started late on Friday.
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am prepared to consider that.  Indeed, I do
    14        not see why you should not have the time we lost on Friday
    15        at the moment.  But bear in mind what I have just said.
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    17   MS. STEEL:   Right, OK.
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    19                         (Luncheon Adjournment)
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    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So you are in no doubt, I think we started
    22        just before 12 noon on Friday in the end.  So, carry on --
    23        if you need the time on this topic until that time
    24        tomorrow.
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    26   MS. STEEL:   All right.  I am trying to work out where to
    27        start.  Mr. Pocklington referred -----
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    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You just gave me the Mr. Bishop quote about
    30        it not being immediately apparent who was in charge of
    31        meetings.  That was your last reference.
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    33   MS. STEEL:   Right, yes.  Actually, just another thing on that
    34        point -- not quite on that point -- but there have been
    35        various assertions made by the spies which generally
    36        appeared in their statements, but not in their notes, that
    37        myself and Mr. Morris were particularly vociferous or
    38        opinionated.  We would say that even if that were true, it
    39        is completely irrelevant; but, also, if it is true, then it
    40        would actually work against the Plaintiffs, because if we
    41        are so opinionated and we were also involved in the
    42        anti-McDonald's campaign, then after a year and a half of
    43        infiltration of the London Greenpeace meetings McDonald's
    44        should have dozens of examples of both of us calling for
    45        pickets of McDonald's and encouraging distribution of the
    46        fact sheet.  Instead, what have they got?  Not a single
    47        occasion when either of us spoke in favour of pickets or in
    48        favour of the fact sheet.  I mean, obviously, that does not
    49        mean we were against it, but the point is that if we were
    50        sort of motivating forces, or what have you, and we were so 
    51        opinionated as the Plaintiffs make out, then how come they 
    52        have not got any examples of us encouraging pickets and 
    53        distribution of the fact sheet?
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    55        Just going through a bit of the evidence from
    56        Mr. Pocklington, in the first statement, paragraph 7, he
    57        said that he noted copies of the leaflets complained of
    58        were stocked in boxes available to take away; but in his
    59        notes he does not in fact record that, in the notes of that
    60        meeting.  I cannot remember which meeting that was at.

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