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1 is able to speak about all or almost all of the people who
2 are named in Mr. Morris' two sheets of paper. He deals
3 seriatim with the allegations made in relation to those
4 people.
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6 So, my Lord, if I do have to apply formally for leave, I do
7 it. I say this, if I need to, that if Mr. Logan's
8 statement contains the kind of particularity which, in our
9 submission, it ought to have been at the time when it was
10 served, then, of course, these statements would have been
11 obtained at that time. That is the reason why they come
12 now rather than back in July 1993.
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14 MS. STEEL: If I could just say something which I do not think
15 is going to particularly change the course of the argument,
16 but Mr. Rampton said that this has only come about because
17 they objected to there was no particularity in the
18 statement of 1993, and that you agreed with that, as
19 I recollect it, actually Mr. Morris got another statement
20 in September or August of last year. It was for that
21 reason that the Plaintiffs decided they wanted to call
22 witnesses rather than it being something that there was no
23 particularity in that statement.
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25 MR. RAMPTON: I must say that is not what I recollect.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think it matters, because I think I
28 will have a better prospect of getting to the truth of the
29 events in Bath if I give leave for the Defendants to adduce
30 the additional evidence intimated in Mr. Morris' additional
31 notes and what he said in court at the time. You will have
32 leave to call Hendon, Cox and Perrett as well.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: I am grateful to your Lordship.
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So I give leave in all those respects.
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38 MR. RAMPTON: Similar considerations apply to Heathrow.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Did I actually give leave in relation to
41 Mr. Beech or did I merely indicate that I was minded to do
42 so?
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44 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship has not heard that application on
45 either side.
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47 MR. MORRIS: That is not true. My recollection is that it kept
48 coming up on the schedule. It kept being said that no
49 official leave had been given yet. I think the last time
50 it came up before Christmas you actually said: "I do give
51 leave for Mr. Beech". Then you intimated to the Plaintiffs
52 that they should not need to call more than, say, one
53 person to deal with Mr. Beech which is something that you
54 said. But I think they are calling four. It might be
55 five, I am not sure. I have not actually had a chance to
56 read those yet either so.
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58 MR. RAMPTON: Mrs. Brinley-Codd is actually going to look and
59 find what your Lordship did say. Mr. Morris' account does
60 not accord with my recollection. I do know that your
