Day 197 - 07 Dec 95 - Page 47
1 Stanton was a Supervisor, did you?
2 A. I did not have to.
3
4 Q. No. You did not, do you?
5 A. I did not, no.
6
7 Q. You have no idea what Frank Stanton or anybody else might
8 have said at one of those meetings, have you?
9 A. I have, because they were then cascaded down to me at
10 branch level. The whole part of the meeting is so that
11 information is then passed down the line; we were aware of
12 what is wanted and what has to be done.
13
14 Q. So, is that the basis on which you told the court
15 yesterday that this pressure to save on food and labour
16 costs originated with Frank Stanton?
17 A. That is where I first became aware of the pressure to
18 beat the costs and save money wherever possible.
19
20 Q. How do you know that it had anything to do with Frank
21 Stanton?
22 A. Because, not only was I told at Managers' meetings
23 relating to information that had passed through from those
24 meetings, when Frank Stanton was in the stores the
25 pressure would ne there. He would be saying things like:
26 "Only put half a slice of cheese on that; do not put as
27 much ketchup on there".
28
29 Q. Frank Stanton actually said that to you?
30 A. I have seen him and saw him say it within the
31 Colchester store.
32
33 Q. You have, have you? Just as you say he was at the meeting
34 which decided that the McDonald's Freedom Fighters should
35 be sacked?
36 A. Sorry -- I could not hear what you said then.
37
38 Q. I said just as you say that he was at the meeting where it
39 was decided that McDonald's Freedom Fighters should be
40 sacked?
41 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes.
42
43 Q. In 1984 or 1985?
44 A. I have already said, I might have the dates wrong but
45 the meetings took place and things took place. I have
46 already said I might be wrong with the dates because
47 I have no way of checking those things and they are done
48 from memory.
49
50 Q. You are not telling the truth about Mr. Frank Stanton, are
51 you?
52 A. I have not told one lie. I have no reason to lie.
53 I have no reason to tell anything that did not happen.
54 I have nothing to gain by doing that. In fact, I am
55 losing money by being here today, so I have nothing to
56 gain by being here at all.
57
58 Q. I promise you, Mr. Coton, we will come back to your
59 motives at a later stage in cross-examination.
60 A. Please do.
