Day 151 - 10 Jul 95 - Page 09


     
     1        evidence to all this effect on related matters.  Does that
     2        not that lead you to any conclusions?
     3        A.  Well, if the criticism is that I do not know the ins
     4        and outs and the daily lives of some 6,000, or however
     5        many, hourly paid employees I must have within the region,
     6        and I have not come across an example of somebody returning
     7        within three years, then perhaps I need to get more nearer
     8        to the grass roots of it.  I have always said the need to
     9         -----
    10
    11   Q.   You said that this came up, about the returners -- never
    12        coming across someone who had come back after three years,
    13        you just said, previously to that, that it was far better
    14        to have experienced people?
    15        A.  Right.
    16
    17   Q.   Right.  So, in fact, not only in your experience are people
    18        not returning after a period of time, three years' time or
    19        whatever, but that McDonald's would positively welcome
    20        people coming back?
    21        A.  Sorry, in my experience, no one has returned after
    22        a ----
    23
    24   Q.   You said that McDonald's would positively welcome
    25        experienced people coming to McDonald's?
    26        A.  Sure.  But just before that, you said something about
    27        I would not expect people within a year or something.
    28        Could you repeat that back to me?
    29
    30   Q.   No, I am talking about three years, but I am saying it came
    31        up in the context of the Company preferring to have
    32        experienced people?
    33        A.  No, it did not.  It came up in the context of people
    34        starting on the below rate.
    35
    36   Q.   But just before that, you said it was far better to have
    37        experienced people.  All right.  I will put it to you
    38        again.  McDonald's would like to have experienced people?
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you ought to think about where you
    41        are going on this.  You have your answer.  It is now an
    42        argument between you and the witness, rather than moving
    43        the matter forward.  We know we have had evidence that
    44        McDonald's would prefer experienced people; therefore, if
    45        someone came back who had worked with them before, although
    46        their experience might be a bit rusty after three years,
    47        presumably, Mr. Stanton, you would be pleased to see them
    48        come back, provided they had left with a clean copybook
    49        originally?
    50        A.  Certainly. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Mr. Stanton says, himself, he has 
    53        considerable experience, and he said he has not known of
    54        anyone coming back after they have been away for three
    55        years.  You want to argue to me that that shows that they
    56        must have found something better and that is not difficult
    57        to do.  I really do not think you need to pursue the
    58        argument with Mr. Stanton.  Address me on it in due
    59        course.
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